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mikelee
post Mar 24 2006, 02:55 PM

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I have found a website where it give some opinions on all HDTVs available. Quite informative with screenshots of the tv.
Click here

*Look for this person named "Bag of Chips" on page 2 of the thread. Probably he is richer than stringfellow. tongue.gif (No offend ar, stringfellow)

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post Mar 25 2006, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Mar 24 2006, 04:29 PM)
^ nice info of the website smile.gif
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Thanks! That guy got a DLP 61" tv and a whopping 101" projector tv. Somemore outside the house got Porsche. Dunno work what. Wish i could be like him. sad.gif
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post Mar 27 2006, 08:30 AM

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This is probably another good guide on all TV available on the market.
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post Apr 13 2006, 12:54 PM

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Another buying guide for HDTV.
Click here!
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post Apr 29 2006, 12:52 AM

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QUOTE(Quasi-Suave @ Apr 28 2006, 09:59 AM)
Dudes, this is my first time posting in this forum.

Lord_Ashe, what kind of Phillips are u using? Can it display HD? I'm looking for a CRT TV with HD capability for RM2K. Looking to invest in X360/PS3 in the near future and need a 29" that is sort of future proof (until LCDs become more affordable that is...) Any suggestions guys?
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Sony KV-DB29M61 which is HD-ready and capable to produce video quality in 1080i/720p/625p/576p/525p/480p/480i.
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post Apr 30 2006, 09:15 AM

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All TV related manuals can be found on this here. Search under online documentation. There they have every single manuals for all models of the tv.
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post May 2 2006, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(Quasi-Suave @ May 2 2006, 09:11 AM)
Thanks Mikelee.
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Sure! I think thats the best and cheapest HD ready TV available out there (others all RM4k++ sad.gif ). However its quite bulky and needs a lot of space to put it. However if u can, fork out another RM529 to get the matching tv rack.
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post May 23 2006, 09:06 AM

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A question to all, I am planning to get a lcd tv soon. However i wanna ask is HDMI input really all that important? For future use? I know ps3 will have HDMI but however will component connection gives me the same display quality or not?
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post May 23 2006, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(Lord_Ashe @ May 23 2006, 09:15 AM)
AFAIK, technically component video CAN handle up to 1080p (from Wikipedia). However, the impact of HDMI will only be seen once 2 things happen:

1) HDDVD or Bluray wins the format war;

2) Hollywood finally implements their HDCP-ICT anti-piracy initiative

HDMI is just digital video with audio built into a single cable. For now, that's the only thing it is. However, when (2) happens, any HD media that has ICT implemented will automatically be downgraded to 540p when it detects an analog (ie component) connection. Sure, it's better than 480i, but do you really want to be stuck with 540p when you KNOW you're missing out on 1080p (Sony we're looking at you)?

That aside, in terms of quality, and while Hollywood makes up its mind whether to use ICT and when, on a sub 50" TV component/HDMI/DVI won't look much different. So it depends on whether you want to be future proof, or just decide to not worry about it until the time comes.

Having said that, I guess it's better to invest wisely...
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So are you saying that we need to have a HDCP capable tv to avoid the downsized to 540p? So with HDMI input also useless cause it will not be capable to produce 1080p quality (for example) for HD-DVD movies?

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post May 23 2006, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(Lord_Ashe @ May 23 2006, 09:50 AM)
Actually yes, we DO need to have a HDCP-compliant Player/TV to enjoy true HD quality from next gen HD media. If you have HDMI/DVI input, then you're safe - but any TVs without it in probably 4-5 years time will not be able to produce 1080p (well at least if we discount the fact that some Chinese uberhacker will come up with a cable to fool the HDCP).
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However if we do get a tv with HDMI input, but its max resolution is 1366 x 768, isn't the tv will not be able to produce up to 1080p of display quality? or am i wrong?
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post May 23 2006, 10:17 AM

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QUOTE(Lord_Ashe @ May 23 2006, 10:00 AM)
Heheh. NOW you're catching on. AFAIK, there are very few TVs out there that natively support 1080p - the ones that claim to be (or so I heard) mostly achieve that thru upscaling. So yeah, at the moment if you REALLY want to be future proof, invest in one of those 70" LCD/plasma panels from Westinghouse or similar and by then MAYBE you'll be able to boast "true" 1080p support.

Otherwise, if you're a regular person who just wants a little bit extra quality I suggest you get the best you can afford. A 40" Bravia will take care of your needs for at least several years.
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Yeah no wonder..not many 1080p tv available now in the market. Esspecially Malaysia market where HD broadcasting will only arrive here about 2010 (i estimate tongue.gif)
Ouch...40" Bravia, my eyes will hurt in my small bedroom. biggrin.gif So i was deciding something smaller maybe about 23"-26". However for a 26" with HDMI input, i will need to add about RM700 to RM800 from a 23" model. From your explaination so far, i don't see any good reason to have a HDMI input. I think it is good enough to produce 720p from a component connection when using the infamous PS3. All these 1080p from Sony are all marketing gimmicks (i think).

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post May 23 2006, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(Lord_Ashe @ May 23 2006, 10:28 AM)
LoL.

Well I applaud your sensible thinking, bear in mind also that this only applies if you're buying the Vanilla PS3. But if you're planning on getting the Premium version you'll be stuck without HDMI!

It's a tricky issue but at the end of the day only spend what you're willing to for quality you will definitely accept. Whatever TV you buy will be staring at you for at least 3 years...
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Yeah i agree. I could save alot by buying the 23" lcd and get the all new xbox360 or save up for PS3. I just wanna make sure got enough inputs for all consoles including my trusty old ps2. So basically getting an lcd monitor which is a cheaper alternative = no use.
I see that you have a pixel plus tv. Does it have HDMI? Are you getting ready for PS3? or getting the Wiiiiiiiiii?
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post May 23 2006, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(Lord_Ashe @ May 23 2006, 02:02 PM)
Yup. All the consoles you have should be supported if not, it's gonna suck big time.

I do have a Pixel Plus 2 CRT - no HDMI, but I've got 2 component Hi-Def inputs that SHOULD cover my potential 360 purchase and even the Wii eventually.
Wow potential 360 buyer. Let me know when you getting it okie? I can join you on Live when i get mine too. tongue.gif

QUOTE(Lord_Ashe @ May 23 2006, 02:02 PM)
If the Wii doesn't go beyond 480p I may have to share my other "regular" component connection with my DVD player - worst case scenario is I have to downgrade my DVD player connection to S-video, but that seems crummy.
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Isn't there available a switcher for component inputs? That saves much hassel rather then going for s-video. Eh...how bout ps3?? Is Wii > PS3? laugh.gif
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post May 23 2006, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(Lord_Ashe @ May 23 2006, 02:52 PM)
Sure thing bro. Looking forward to getting my 360. smile.gif

I actually DO have a switcher for component inputs. Bought it from Lik-Sang for RM 60. Best decision I ever made smile.gif That's a potential solution, yeah.

/puts on fanboy hat

Personally, I am anticipating the Wii more than the PS3 right now. Sony's continued arrogance will relegate it to a much later purchase, for me.

So yes, I love Wii.

/takes off fanboy hat
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laugh.gif Like the fanboy hat part. Yeah..Wii rocks!

So back to the topic tvs then, given a choice will you choose this? (question is open to everyone too).I could get it @ RM3300 if HSL accepts the RM500 trade-in.

user posted image

3000:1 Dynamic Contrast
Brightness 500cd/m2
10bit Processing 3.2 Billion Colours
1366x768 Resolution (True 16:9)
PVA Panel
8ms Response Time
DNIe3(tm) Technology (MCC 6xDensity)
Colour Weakness Compensator
Brightness Sensor
Wider Viewing Angles - 170 / 170
PIP Function (Single Tuner)
2x Component Inputs
PC Input (XGA~W-XGA)
Teletext (1000 Pages)
VESA Compliant Wall Mounting

OR

26" model with HDMI input @ RM 4000.

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post May 25 2006, 10:15 AM

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No recommendation for me?? sad.gif
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post May 25 2006, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(Lord_Ashe @ May 25 2006, 10:21 AM)
LoL The Samsungs are a good buy, IMHO. You just have to decide between the HDMI or non-HDMI model. I'd go with the HDMI, I guess, although you may have to fork out for a HDMI-compatible home theater unit...
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Alright i will go look around at electrical shops and test the 23" model. Somemore xbox 360 HD-DVD expansion will not have HDMI connection is just disappointing and PS3 can be connected using component and achieve the same display quality, I will just take the one without it. Thanks!
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post May 30 2006, 08:28 AM

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QUOTE(arj @ May 30 2006, 04:24 AM)
I was at Desa Home Theater just now and had a little chat with the salesperson. According to him if you watch mainly ASTRO and DVDs, plasma is a better choice and he recomended the Toshiba 42" plasma which is retailing for RM7500. It looks something like the model in the following link but I'm not too sure the exact model for the one at Desa.

http://www.tacp.toshiba.com/televisions/pr...sp?model=42HP95
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Where is exactly Desa Home Theater? Near 1U right? Hows the price of the tvs there? Do they accept trade-ins? Thanks!
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post Jun 5 2006, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(wcliang @ Jun 5 2006, 01:29 PM)
oh ya... biggrin.gif

HD CRT TV:
1. sony xxxxm61 series(using by xxboxx) price 1799++
2. philips xxPT8845 series price ??

hmm...limited choice we have...

philips problem with 360? no 720p ?...oh....only 1 to choose  rclxub.gif
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Maybe i can help with a few models. All HD ready TV.
- Panasonic 29 100hz CRT TV TX-29P800MK RRP: RM1899
- Samsung Slimfit 32 inch Widescreen TV RRP: RM3k-4k
- Samsung Slimfit 29 inch TV (not widescreen) RRP: RM 1k+

Are using this specially for your 360? Why not go for LCD monitor? You can get widescreen with it and far lighter in weight.

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post Dec 2 2006, 09:09 AM

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QUOTE(neoardi @ Dec 2 2006, 02:24 AM)
OMG, Dell LCD monitor 2407WFP selling cheap  rclxms.gif @ RM2349.
Click here for more info.  thumbup.gif
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Yeah getting monitor is another cheaper alternative for those who wants to play games in your own room.

Xbox360 on the VGA input.
PS3 on the DVI input.
I might not come out of the room anymore. laugh.gif
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post Dec 2 2006, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(rx330 @ Dec 2 2006, 10:18 AM)
i play in my hall wor... so lcd monitor not an option for me
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Yeah..I agree. The hall will look like a computer room. However for everyone's information Dell 30" LCD now cost at RM4000+. A price drop of RM2500. drool.gif

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