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shinigamicpt
post Jun 4 2006, 07:18 PM

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but we cant hav HDTV tilll long long time .. digital tv is oni jus comin an dere wun be HD program ..soon.. will astro hav HD programs soon? cause prob alot of ppl in m'sia stil dun HD sets..
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post Jun 5 2006, 09:06 AM

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can somebody list down the HD CRT TV currently in market....not many i think?

1. sony xxxxm61 series(using by xxboxx) price 1799++
2....wat else...

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post Jun 5 2006, 10:36 AM

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JVC and Panasonic also have...can't remember what model...



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post Jun 5 2006, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(koopa @ Jun 1 2006, 03:45 PM)
Yeah i saw the lifespan on wiki. it seems 10 hrs = 15 years.. so plasma is better for longer use? Is there any significant diff between Hitachi/ Panasonic/ Samsung/ Pioneer?

Last question.  smile.gif
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15 years is a bloody long time already. Any TV that last 10 years is good enuff already...heck, you'll want to change to bigger better tv 10 years down the road anyway. by that time, who knows, HDTV could mean 16,000 x 9,000 pixels!!!! (and cost RM 2K hopefully). And maybe OLED would have replace LCD/Plasma as mainstream by then... who knows!


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post Jun 5 2006, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(wcliang @ Jun 5 2006, 09:06 AM)
can somebody list down the HD CRT TV currently in market....not many i think?

1. sony xxxxm61 series(using by xxboxx) price 1799++
2....wat else...
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Don't forget Philips. Like my Pixel Plus 2 CRT.

Only problem I have is a little overscanning when on 1080i mode with the 360.
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post Jun 5 2006, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(Lord_Ashe @ Jun 5 2006, 11:47 AM)
Don't forget Philips. Like my Pixel Plus 2 CRT.

Only problem I have is a little overscanning when on 1080i mode with the 360.
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oh ya... biggrin.gif

HD CRT TV:
1. sony xxxxm61 series(using by xxboxx) price 1799++
2. philips xxPT8845 series price ??

hmm...limited choice we have...

philips problem with 360? no 720p ?...oh....only 1 to choose rclxub.gif

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post Jun 5 2006, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(wcliang @ Jun 5 2006, 01:29 PM)
oh ya... biggrin.gif

HD CRT TV:
1. sony xxxxm61 series(using by xxboxx) price 1799++
2. philips xxPT8845 series price ??

hmm...limited choice we have...

philips problem with 360? no 720p ?...oh....only 1 to choose  rclxub.gif
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Maybe i can help with a few models. All HD ready TV.
- Panasonic 29 100hz CRT TV TX-29P800MK RRP: RM1899
- Samsung Slimfit 32 inch Widescreen TV RRP: RM3k-4k
- Samsung Slimfit 29 inch TV (not widescreen) RRP: RM 1k+

Are using this specially for your 360? Why not go for LCD monitor? You can get widescreen with it and far lighter in weight.

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post Jun 5 2006, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(Matrix @ Jun 5 2006, 10:37 AM)
15 years is a bloody long time already. Any TV that last 10 years is good enuff already...heck, you'll want to change to bigger better tv 10 years down the road anyway. by that time, who knows, HDTV could mean 16,000 x 9,000 pixels!!!! (and cost RM 2K hopefully). And maybe OLED would have replace LCD/Plasma as mainstream by then... who knows!
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Final 2 choices. Samsung HL-R5087W (DLP) and Pioneer PDP-5060HD (plasma).
Thanks guys for the help. Im gonna leave it up to them to decide.
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post Jun 5 2006, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(wcliang @ Jun 5 2006, 01:29 PM)
oh ya... biggrin.gif

HD CRT TV:
1. sony xxxxm61 series(using by xxboxx) price 1799++
2. philips xxPT8845 series price ??

hmm...limited choice we have...

philips problem with 360? no 720p ?...oh....only 1 to choose  rclxub.gif
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Just bought the philips 29pt8845 last friday for about 1.5k from hsl, manual stated that it does support 720p and 1080p as well. Took abit of time to tune the color to my liking. The first 5 hours or so the color and PQ of the progressive scan image through my denon 1920 dvd player connected to the TV was awful ( pixelization / noise / jaggies/ vertical lines all over the screen) . Still running in the tv and can see the PQ improve day by day. sweat.gif wink.gif

I notice that in dark scenes in a movie, the black level through progressive is way darker than interlaced. Dunno whether its the player or the tv causing this. Noticed the color from the philips is not as vibrant as my old JVC 50hz tv, but the color seems to look "thicker" and more natural.

Hope this helps!

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post Jun 5 2006, 03:17 PM

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Cool. So you DID buy that one.

Mine is the 69PT29 or something, with Pixel Plus 2 - at RM 2300 way more expensive than the 8845 one. In a way I paid a premium for the Pixel Plus 2 processing at the expense of 720p capability, but still, am happy.

Overall you'll notice that Philips' tube gives a darker black than most sets - but I think for RM 1.5 k it's a good buy.
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post Jun 5 2006, 03:26 PM

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I've never been a fan of sony tv so my choice was clear wink.gif Can really see the difference through the pixel plus, although its the older technology.
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post Jun 5 2006, 09:35 PM

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yeah...thanks guys for the input

1. sony xxxxm61 series(using by xxboxx) price 1799++
2. philips xxPT8845 series price 1.5k++

3. Panasonic 29 100hz CRT TV TX-29P800MK RRP: RM1899
4.- Samsung Slimfit 32 inch Widescreen TV RRP: RM3k-4k
- Samsung Slimfit 29 inch TV (not widescreen) RRP: RM 1k+

nice, HD TV at only 1.5k....seems philips 29pt8845 a really good buy...hmm smile.gif
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QUOTE(wcliang @ Jun 5 2006, 09:06 AM)
can somebody list down the HD CRT TV currently in market....not many i think?

1. sony xxxxm61 series(using by xxboxx) price 1799++
2....wat else...
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I'm using the Toshiba 29JZ9UES as mentioned in my earlier post. It's capable of 480p, 576p, 720p and 1080i. I use it mainly for gaming on my Xbox and PS2. Will plunk down some cash on a 360 when the time is right. For the record, I paid RM1899 for it.
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post Jun 6 2006, 09:25 AM

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Just an update, the philips 29pt8845 wont do 576p. The tv will detect it but the picture will be jumping all over the place and there will be some vertical lines on the image. Just double checked at philips website, the 576p mode is not listed... only 480P / 720P and surprise surprise - 1080P.

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post Jun 6 2006, 07:27 PM

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actually while all these inputs are very capable for a CRT, will they actually display every pixel of a 1920x1080... (say for a 1080i input)

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post Jun 6 2006, 11:38 PM

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alright biggrin.gif

1. sony xxxxm61 series(using by xxboxx) price 1799++
2. philips xxPT8845 series price 1.5k++

3. Panasonic 29 100hz CRT TV TX-29P800MK RRP: RM1899
4.- Samsung Slimfit 32 inch Widescreen TV RRP: RM3k-4k
- Samsung Slimfit 29 inch TV (not widescreen) RRP: RM 1k+

5. Toshiba 29JZ9UES price 1899

philips power...can up to 1080p thumbup.gif
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post Jun 8 2006, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(wcliang @ Jun 6 2006, 11:38 PM)
alright  biggrin.gif

1. sony xxxxm61 series(using by xxboxx) price 1799++
2. philips xxPT8845 series price 1.5k++

3. Panasonic 29 100hz CRT TV TX-29P800MK RRP: RM1899
4.- Samsung Slimfit 32 inch Widescreen TV RRP: RM3k-4k
- Samsung Slimfit 29 inch TV (not widescreen) RRP: RM 1k+

5. Toshiba 29JZ9UES price 1899

philips power...can up to 1080p  thumbup.gif
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does senheng/harvey norman or any other electrical shop carry them?

especially the philips one
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post Jun 8 2006, 06:50 PM

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QUOTE(mikelee @ Jun 5 2006, 02:04 PM)
- Samsung Slimfit 32 inch Widescreen TV        RRP: RM3k-4k
- Samsung Slimfit 29 inch TV (not widescreen) RRP: RM 1k+
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does this 2 model support 60Hz? or only 50Hz?
if you live in Australia or Europe with PAL console that would be fine. but if in malaysia, most of the thing is NTSC, which need tv capable of 60Hz.


QUOTE(ar188 @ Jun 6 2006, 07:27 PM)
actually while all these inputs are very capable for a CRT, will they actually display every pixel of a 1920x1080... (say for a 1080i input)
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downscale to 1080i maybe?
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post Jun 8 2006, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Jun 8 2006, 06:50 PM)
does this 2 model support 60Hz? or only 50Hz?
if you live in Australia or Europe with PAL console that would be fine. but if in malaysia, most of the thing is NTSC, which need tv capable of 60Hz.
i've read thru the tech spec listed in the manual book for the SlimFit TV and it listed 1080i support only for 50Hz. For 60Hz, it's only 480p. Weird huh? Such a waste... sweat.gif
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post Jun 9 2006, 12:22 AM

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tongue.gif heard some doubt on samsung slimfit too...

HD CRT TV
1. sony xxxxm61 series(using by xxboxx) price 1799++

2. philips 29PT8845 price 1.5k++ 34" 2.5K++

3. Panasonic 29 100hz CRT TV TX-29P800MK RRP: RM1899

4. Toshiba 29JZ9UES price 1899

so anymore..... wub.gif

This post has been edited by wcliang: Jun 9 2006, 12:23 AM

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