Hi guys, will need help here in better understanding the currently available rom for hero. I read through pages but still very confused with all the complicated terms. Things like AOSP 2.0 but VERSION 3.0 ??? harr ? is very confusing with all the version....

Please comment/correct me if i get interpret wrongly. sorry for such noobness.. im trying my best to catch up




1. Out of box Rom for Hero is AOSP 1.5 or GOOGLE Android 1.5 or can also be called CUPCAKE.

2. AOSP 1.6 is DONUT? and AOSP 2.0 is ECLAIR?

3. MCR 3.0C is CUSTOM MADE ROM by some fellow (with totally different appearance etc) ??? Same with MODACO 3.0 ??? are they actually the same?

4. What is TEKNOLOGIST 1.9 KERNEL that i see many ppl will install together with MODACO 3.0?

5. What is the AMON RA recovery image??? is it just an application to root the Above rom???

6. AOSP 2.0/ 2.01 is still in beta... so is kinda unstable/ incomplete... is better for noob like me (play safe) to avoid at the meantime?

7. Which is the current most stable/Complete rom available? is it the MCR3.0C + 1.9 Kernel? or the AOSP 1.6 ?

8. NANDROID / SPRITEBACKUP/ MyBACKUP are all backup (contacts, sms, settings, apk etc) application that can be used when i test with the Rooting process?

9. If I have root to AOSP 1.5 now with market (i believe is the overseas rom with market), DO i have to change back my Rom to the FACTORY Original one before Rooting to OTHER rom like MCR 3/ Modaco 3.0?

10. All APN settings. MMS, 3Gs, etc will all need to be reset everytime we root a new rom?


I thought i have rooted my hero with the version with Market... but i think it is still stick to 1.5 cupcake, since i cant install Google Goggle. So hopefully to make it clear the next one i wan to root is going to be better n faster.


finally! THANK YOU TO BEAR WITH MY NOOB QUESTIONS

1 .. no its 1.5 cupcake + SenseUI
2.. yes .. its tru .. AOSP is just a completely original androidOS .. no special UI
3 .. dunno
4 .. dunno
5 .. amon ra recovery image is the thing that create recovery mode(root) , in recovery mode u can nandroid backup , flash ROM , flash theme , wipe ect2
6 .. u can flash the ROM to test it .. tru recovery mode .. its easy .. but the beta rom always unstable
7 .. its hero weakness .. not much ROM .. or stable AOSP ROM .. , ur ultimate choice is just MCR 3.0 .. ur AOSP 1.6 wont complete coz htc wont release 1.6 update on hero . so no certain hardware driver for that update .. such as camera , no CyanMod ect2 its the main prob y i din choose hero at the 1st place .. then i bought magic ..
8. .. Nandroid is not same with spritebackup and my backup .. nandroid only avail in recovery mode .. it backup all of ur current ROM setting , apps , contact , sms ,mms ect2 , sprite backup just sms , mms , pic ect2 ..
9 .. thats y got nandroid backup .. u root ur hero just to put the recovery mode .. so that u can perform nandroid backup .. before flashing MCR or anything ..


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hero era just too short .. it will not popular in the future .. and wont be much ROM release for hero after this .. coz now everybody move their attention to newest device in the future .. such as .. nexus one , htc bravo , milestone/droid .. and luckily magic and G1 already have alot of attention in the past .. u could see how many ROMs we have .. its variety .. our recovery already at 1.5.2

its a bad idea to buy hero(2.1~2.3k) now .. coz .. it wont reach 1k price diff with Milestone(<3k) .. so ppl would think rather buy a hero ..y wont u save a lil bit and just buy Milestone .. tattoo , magic and G1 price are too far ..

anyway its just my 2 cent .. no offense

This post has been edited by ~tera~: Dec 17 2009, 07:15 AM

3. MCR= MoDaCo Custom ROM, so yes they are the same. ROM is the firmware of the phone, so it depends on the dev to wether change the appearance or not. Well AFAIK MCR have Sense UI similar with stock Hero phones, but with added functionality.

Just to test my own understanding,

1. Hero original ROM is based on 1.5 firmware, codenamed Cupcake. Observe the alphabet. Cupcake, 1.5. Donut, 1.6. Eclair, 2.0. Flan, 2.X

2. AOSP is basically a ROM. This ROM is intended to be without Google's app. Which means no Market, no Gmail etc.

3. MCR is a short name for MoDaCo Custom ROM. This ROM is baked by Paul, an admin from www.modaco.com

4. Teknologist's Custom Kernel, or TCK. Read his extended explanation at http://android.teknologism.org/

5. Amon RA is one of many custom recovery images. You can't flash custom ROM with original recovery image. To flash custom ROM (e.g. AOSP or MCR) you need to use custom recovery image.

6. AOSP will always be in development. Stick with original ROM (or maybe MCR) if you wanted a stable phone. The rule of the game is simple. Don't fack your phone if you don't want your phone to fack you.

7. The most 'stable' will be your original ROM. The ROM should be good enough for you uncles and aunties.

8. Nandroid backup is the exact image of your phone's current state. Just like a photo. In fact, more than a photo.

A photo is a visual representation of a state of time. A photo of you kissing Adriana Lima is a visual explanation what was happening with you in Brazil. That photo doesn't tell you what happened before and after the kissing. That exact time.

The point is, a Nandroid backup is an exact representation of state of your phone. Good thing about Nandroid is, you can always use it to get back to the previous state of your phone.

Unfortunately, you can never get Adriana Lima kissing you again and again from a photo. You need to fap for that.

9. No need. I mean fack that original stuff. You can flash any suitable ROM you want without going back to original.

10. You can backup your APN settings with an app, APN Backup & Restore. Search for it from Market.

11. Google Goggles is for 1.6+. You can't never have Goggles if you use original ROM or MCR as they are running 1.5 firmware.

This post has been edited by LEVIATHAN: Dec 17 2009, 10:35 PM

any good A2DP bluetooth earphone for Hero?

[quote=LEVIATHAN,Dec 17 2009, 11:26 AM]
Just to test my own understanding,


8. Nandroid backup is the exact image of your phone's current state. Just like a photo. In fact, more than a photo.

So Nandroid can backup the ROM version that we hv when we do the backup? which mean we can easily go back to previous ROM ver. by just restore the image? and i presume it will backup the APN setting also?

Yes exactly.

Thanks everyone! This Clear up a lot of my doubts. Important infos i get:
*Android 1.6 donut is not official yet... therefore no Sense UI etc... bad bad...no good for me
*MCR rom running 1.5 firmware... so no Google Goggles for me at the meantime even if i flash tat rom. bear with it
*APN backup n restore. Good one
*Look like MCR Rom currently is the best n most complete Custom rom... with SenseUi, enhanced apks, etc etc with Gmail, market, etc etc. Look like i'll give this rom a try.

"5. Amon RA is one of many custom recovery images. You can't flash custom ROM with original recovery image. To flash custom ROM (e.g. AOSP or MCR) you need to use custom ROM."

This statement is a bit confusing.. I'll need to re read the tutorialssss again..

Sorry, I have made a little correction there.

5. Amon RA is one of many custom recovery images. You can't flash custom ROM with original recovery image. To flash custom ROM (e.g. AOSP or MCR) you need to use custom recovery image.

I'm running HERO21 1.7 naw. Very responsive indeed. Even smoother the latest HERO21 compared to AOSP I feel.

However the ROM has too many preinstalled crapps. Might do another batch script to mass delete them.

Nexus bootscreen :-) too gawd damn long. Hoho!

HTC on Twiiter

Damn! none of the widgets works on Hero. Wait for update.

oh my god.. i think this time screw up..

Just flash with the mcr3.0 rom... coudlnt get my 3g working....

Can connect to n browse internet JUST CANNOT LOG INTO GOOGLE ACCOUNT....

therefore no contact/calender/sync... and cant access MARKET.. and I cant Retrieve BACKUP for my files/setting/contacts etc from the Mybackup!!! cause I cant download the apk from market without internet accesss....

damn screw up this time:(.... later 8am have to wake up.. n I still worry bout having no phone to use tomoro .... any1 know wat could cause this problem?

all apps provided should work ...
http://www.androlib.com/android.developer....ration-FtE.aspx

y ?? bug ?? i installed it on my magic .. it just disappear .. then i read back .. owh .. its just for droid eris and hero ..

This post has been edited by ~tera~: Dec 18 2009, 05:59 AM

Finally able to find the AP backup & restore + Mybackup from pc & restore my previous AP settings & applications in my Hero.

With 3G connection finally able to sync my contacts n gmails...

There is just last final problem...... I cant access my MARKET!!!!
When enter market... it load "markets terms of services"

1 second later and ATTENTION appears:

AN ERROR HAS OCCURRED. PLEASE TRY AGAIN LATER.

Try to restart the device.. etc... google for solution.. but couldnt find any...hai why am i oways hving trouble with market .... guys any idea how to fix this?

Good.

You will get out from those problems as a more experienced user :-)

Actually, good for me, coz Papago haven't supported 1.6 yet! If I understand correctly, there are not much improvement from 1.5->1.6, the only significant thing I know is the support of non HVGA resolution.

works with my HERO.... eventhough using MCR 3.0

Works on my magic. Its a widget, not an application, so go to the main page, click + then select HTC Widget, it should show up there.

http://www.androidguys.com/2009/12/17/spri...ero-and-moment/

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=1312...52115115&ref=nf

HTC Hero's Photos - HTC Widgets for HTC Hero and Droid Eris



This post has been edited by bonanno: Dec 18 2009, 12:16 PM

Im not the only 1 having "incompatible updates" error during the widgets installation.

http://android.modaco.com/content/htc-hero...gets-available/