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post Oct 4 2011, 06:03 PM

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hmm, seems to be a lot of applicants for med 2012. There's only 1 msian in the 2011 batch. kinda sad though.
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post Oct 4 2011, 06:04 PM

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relative's college mate.....there could be more that he is not aware of....

apparently 2nd round offers for newcastle also out....a few rejections from first round....


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QUOTE(onelove89 @ Oct 4 2011, 06:03 PM)
hmm, seems to be a lot of applicants for med 2012. There's only 1 msian in the 2011 batch. kinda sad though.
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so where do the other international students come from?....

i wonder, with so many conditional offers, how many will actually get a firm offer at the end...they are just trying to lock in people, because they know they are never the top choice of most students..... smile.gif

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post Oct 4 2011, 06:10 PM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Oct 4 2011, 06:04 PM)
relative's college mate.....there could be more that he is not aware of....

apparently 2nd round offers for newcastle also out....a few rejections from first round....


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so where do the other international students come from?....

i wonder, with so many conditional offers, how many will actually get a firm offer at the end...they are just trying to lock in people, because they know they are never the top choice of most students..... smile.gif
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Son was advised by college against applying to Newcastle, and he didn't bother asking for reasons! doh.gif
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post Oct 4 2011, 06:13 PM

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QUOTE(podrunner @ Oct 4 2011, 06:10 PM)
Son was advised by college against applying to Newcastle, and he didn't bother asking for reasons!  doh.gif
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because they do not accept direct applications from international students... smile.gif
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post Oct 4 2011, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Oct 4 2011, 06:13 PM)
because they do not accept direct applications from international students... smile.gif
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So those that you were referring to were offered based on alternate applications? How does this work?

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taylor's placement centre of taylor's college sj has a special arrangement with newcastle to place up to 10 international students.....but application MUST be done through them.....

some of these 10 places are reserved for msia gov scholars (jpa/mara), not sure how many.....based on previous years' figures i think 5 or 6, the rest is open for private students.....this year 30 students are shortlisted for the pqa test and interview.....
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QUOTE(limeuu @ Oct 4 2011, 06:33 PM)
taylor's placement centre of taylor's college sj has a special arrangement with newcastle to place up to 10 international students.....but application MUST be done through them.....

some of these 10 places are reserved for msia gov scholars (jpa/mara), not sure how many.....based on previous years' figures i think 5 or 6, the rest is open for private students.....this year 30 students are shortlisted for the pqa test and interview.....
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Thanks, good to know.
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QUOTE(podrunner @ Oct 4 2011, 03:10 PM)
"Best" as defined by? Too general a question.
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post Oct 4 2011, 07:40 PM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Oct 4 2011, 06:04 PM)
relative's college mate.....there could be more that he is not aware of....

apparently 2nd round offers for newcastle also out....a few rejections from first round....


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so where do the other international students come from?....

i wonder, with so many conditional offers, how many will actually get a firm offer at the end...they are just trying to lock in people, because they know they are never the top choice of most students..... smile.gif
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a lot from SG, but for the rest, I'm not too sure. wonder what will happen if monash and UNSW decide to change to postgrad med. hmm.... Is Adelaide U still offering undergrad med?
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QUOTE(onelove89 @ Oct 4 2011, 07:40 PM)
a lot from SG, but for the rest, I'm not too sure. wonder what will happen if monash and UNSW decide to change to postgrad med. hmm.... Is Adelaide U still offering undergrad med?
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Yes Adelaide still offers undergrad med. Which uni did you do your first yr med in?
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post Oct 4 2011, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(onelove89 @ Oct 4 2011, 07:40 PM)
a lot from SG, but for the rest, I'm not too sure. wonder what will happen if monash and UNSW decide to change to postgrad med. hmm.... Is Adelaide U still offering undergrad med?
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there are not many undergrad medicine left.....adelaide and unsw with 6 year courses, and utas, monash, uws, jcu and newcastle with 5 years......

sporeans wouldn't want to go to jcu and uws, as they are not recognised in spore....utas will be a preferred option to them i would think, although most will eventually NOT return to spore....
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QUOTE(limeuu @ Oct 4 2011, 07:59 PM)
there are not many undergrad medicine left.....adelaide and unsw with 6 year courses, and utas, monash, uws, jcu and newcastle with 5 years......

sporeans wouldn't want to go to jcu and uws, as they are not recognised in spore....utas will be a preferred option to them i would think, although most will eventually NOT return to spore....
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you'll be surprised by their patriotism. A lot of my SG friends here want to go back to work. Well, UWS JCU and newcastle are all relatively new. But I think Sg will recognize them sooner or later.

Honestly speaking, I don't get why med tuition fee is inflating at such a rapid rate. Another marketing scheme?
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QUOTE(goskype @ Oct 4 2011, 07:31 PM)
Best like country ,people and standard
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You can't go wrong with UK. People all over are generally the same, you will have bad apples. More importantly, it is how you as a person will adapt to a new culture and environment. I get this feeling you are still in secondary school, but correct me if I am wrong. Bear in mind however, if you wish to pursue medicine in countries like UK and Australia, your grades will determine your "placement"...it's a "they choose you, not you choose them" situation.

@Limmeu, this is right your alley! rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(onelove89 @ Oct 4 2011, 08:14 PM)
you'll be surprised by their patriotism. A lot of my SG friends here want to go back to work. Well, UWS JCU and newcastle are all relatively new. But I think Sg will recognize them sooner or later.

Honestly speaking, I don't get why med tuition fee is inflating at such a rapid rate. Another marketing scheme?
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Newcastle is not really new, and is recognised by smc....however, you are unlikely to find sporeans there, as they do not take direct applications from international students.....

a singaporean who will be graduating from uwa shortly has indicated he wants to go back, and undertake postgraduate there.....it is easier to get into a training post in spore than in oz, especially the popular ones....since he has been offered housemanship, he will be staying on for that first....

it is actually exciting times for medical practice and training in spore, as they are on expansion mode to cater to the rapidly increasing population, with several new hospitals just opened, or going to open....and before the new ntu/imperial med school start graduating......there will be a lot of jobs and training opportunities in spore for the next 7-8 years.....

oz fees increased above inflation rate in recent years, not just for medicine, but for all courses.....they are not bounded to follow inflation index.....and is used to cross subsidise local students, as the fed gov fail to increase funding to their unis correspondingly....the strong aud makes it worse...

they can continue to increase fees for medicine without impacting on enrolment, as this is a quota restricted course, and no matter what the asking fees are, there is no shortage of students queuing up to get in....

eg, for 2011 intake, unsw has 70 international places.....and 700 applicants.... smile.gif
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post Oct 10 2011, 12:18 AM

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http://www.ucsi.edu.my/v2/foms/staff/antiaging.aspx

theres this postgrad fr anti aging medicine , isnt it considerably eclipsed by dermatology masters? it's a 2 year course while dermatology is a 4 year course

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post Oct 10 2011, 08:56 AM

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you are confused between dermatology, which is a recognised medical sub-speciality (need to have mrcp/masters first), and aesthetic medicine, which is fringe medicine and has no official standing....

recognition of specialist is increasingly based on registration with the nsr.....when the new medical act is passed, this will become law, and become compulsory, like being registered with mmc as a medical doctor.....

only specified qualifications will be recognised, and this will stop doctors from calling themselves specialists without the necessary qualifications.....

https://www.nsr.org.my/fwbPage.jsp?fwbPageI..._PublicMainPage

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post Oct 10 2011, 10:30 AM

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Singapore has started recruiting some medical graduates from China, from some Beijing medical colleges, and have noted that these medical grads are very good and knowledgeable. The only thing lacking is that some of these grads need some orientation to improve their communication with patients and give them exposure to the treatment to some tropical diseases like dengue fever which they have not heard of or seen before.

These grads had gone thru EIGHT years of studies!

Source: Either Star or NST yesterday.
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post Oct 10 2011, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(cckkpr @ Oct 10 2011, 10:30 AM)
Singapore has started recruiting some medical graduates from China, from some Beijing medical colleges, and have noted that these medical grads are very good and knowledgeable. The only thing lacking is that some of these grads need some orientation to improve their communication with patients and  give them exposure to the treatment to some tropical diseases like dengue fever which they have not heard of or seen before.

These grads had gone thru EIGHT years of studies!

Source: Either Star or NST yesterday.
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http://www.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...647347&sec=asia

It is a reproduction of a 30 Sep 2011 Straits Times article talking about PRC trained and qualified nationals practicing in Singapore.

Nothing new here.
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post Oct 10 2011, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Oct 10 2011, 08:56 AM)
you are confused between dermatology, which is a recognised medical sub-speciality (need to have mrcp/masters first), and aesthetic medicine, which is fringe medicine and has no official standing....

recognition of specialist is increasingly based on registration with the nsr.....when the new medical act is passed, this will become law, and become compulsory, like being registered with mmc as a medical doctor.....

only specified qualifications will be recognised, and this will stop doctors from calling themselves specialists without the necessary qualifications.....

https://www.nsr.org.my/fwbPage.jsp?fwbPageI..._PublicMainPage
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thanks for clearing things up. i actually thought of that yesterday and tried to go on NSR but couldnt due to my lousy internet connection.


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post Oct 11 2011, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(onelove89 @ Oct 4 2011, 06:03 PM)
hmm, seems to be a lot of applicants for med 2012. There's only 1 msian in the 2011 batch. kinda sad though.
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I was made to understand there's 20 places for international students. I assume all 20 places were taken up in 2011? quite a lot of singsporeans are heading to UTAS, judging from the sg student forums.

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