will grades matter? like whether you are a viva student, a C student or whatever....

yeah, how to knw? coz the cert doesnt say second class upper or anything right? unless distinction IIANM??

orange thingy is juz a minor side effect of rifampin/rifampicin....
sweat and tears may also turn orange....

wats the history? kinda curious, and btw u might also be exposed to the TB right? so any prophylaxis taken?

how do local grads perform in comparison to UK/Oz?
ive heard stories bout russian grads but there have been no significant complaints bout local grads, so local grads cant be that bad right?

This post has been edited by arsenwagon: Aug 30 2011, 12:58 PM

Relentless, u working in sg alrdy? so far, do the aforementioned UM/UKM students struggle compared to their NUS/Oz/UK counterparts. lol let's change the direction of this thread , kinda bored with the trivial squabbles already

well i think limeuu is of the opinion that as future doctors our englidh must be at least comprehensible. lets look at his advice as constructive criticism, and try to improve our english from now on.

msians ,if poor historian coupled with lack of investigative facilities how to diagnose then.

in developed countries, if u have poor history it's ok coz you can always order a multitude of scans and tests lol

http://www.mma.org.my/Portals/0/MED%20J%20...SEPT%201985.pdf

interesting journal article

This post has been edited by arsenwagon: Sep 2 2011, 12:58 PM

yeah all the problems actually sound familiar because theyre probs which you and several others have mentioned many times before. and if i read between the lines correctly, the article implied a certain economic policy as one of the causes. am i hallucinating? lol

i wonder did anyone (ministers, MOHE, MMC) pay any attention to that matter 30 yrs ago....did it become a big issue? limeuu and any old timers here , time for a walk down memory lane
however a deputy minister claimed the derecognition is due to EU policies

and if im not mistaken, deducting from the article i posted earlier, there was a period of time when students had to study medicine in BM ? i'm not saying BM is an inferior language , in fact theres nothing wrong with it. but the problem is : how do they get the resources (books , reference materials) in BM?

must have been hard on them , having to consult bilingual dictionaries all the time. oh well, after all japanese students also study med in their native language.

This post has been edited by arsenwagon: Sep 2 2011, 01:42 AM

that's whyive been asking around how do IPTA grads fare. if the uni standards deteriorating but grads are still highly competent then it's fine.

so UK approx how much ? all in 1mil?

http://www.ucsi.edu.my/v2/foms/staff/antiaging.aspx

theres this postgrad fr anti aging medicine , isnt it considerably eclipsed by dermatology masters? it's a 2 year course while dermatology is a 4 year course

This post has been edited by arsenwagon: Oct 10 2011, 12:20 AM

thanks for clearing things up. i actually thought of that yesterday and tried to go on NSR but couldnt due to my lousy internet connection.

wow, i just saw a lincoln college ad for doctor of medicine, 5 years in msia. it was actually last sunday's paper, lol.
entry requirement included diploma in biomed or smtg similar

way to go, i thought there was going to be a freeze on new med schools...

This post has been edited by arsenwagon: Oct 22 2011, 11:27 AM

med skools in msia
1) University Malaya (UM)
2) UNiversiti Kebangsaa n Malaysia (UKM)
3) Universiti Sains Malaysia (USM)
4) Universiti Putra Malaysia (UPM)
... 5) UiTM
6) University Sains Islam Malaysia (USIM)
7) Universiti Darul Iman
8) UNiversiti Sarawak Malaysia (UNIMAS)
9) Universiti Sabah
10) Universiti Malaysia Kelantan
11) Melaka-Manipal Medical College: 2 programmes
12) Monash University Malaysia
13) International Medical University (IMU)
14) SEGI University College
15) Allianze College of Medical Sciences (ACMS): 2 programmes
16) Penang Medical College (PMC)
17) Mahsa University College
18) Masterskills University College of Health Sciences
19) Royal College of Medicine Perak (UNIKL) : 2 programmes
20) Universiti Islam Antarabangsa (UIA)
21) Newcastle University Malaysia
22) Perdana University : Graduate Medical School
23) Perdana University : RCSI
24) Inssaniah University College
25) Quest International University Perak ( starting soon)
26) RCSI Trengganu ( starting soon)
27) KPJ University College (starting soon)
28) Cyberjaya School of Medical Sciences
29) AIMST
30) Taylor’s University College
31) Management and Science University (MSU)
32) University Tunku Abdul Rahman (UTAR)
33) University College Sedaya International (UCSI)
34) Lincoln University College( started 2011)
35) University Pertahanan Nasional Malaysia ( started 2009)

hi, how do med students in developed countries find clerking and physical examination ?

i presume it'd be harder for you to get the patient's consent because
1) it's a developed country, people don't view doctor like God compared to a developing country

2) you're a foreigner there, and an Asian. i dunno, but perhaps there's some form of discrimination? at least if you're studying in Indonesia etc you're still in an Asian country.

hi , anyone got any opinion bout electives in SEA? e.g. thailand, SG, bali and i dont speak thai... anyone has personal or a friend's experience to share? i tried searching other forums but a lot of them did not have replies.

going further than SEA incurs too much money

oh wgy im from a local IPTA. and thx ya for the replies to my question.

and btw clinical vs research elective ... how will it affect us? research probably has more value on a CV, but how useful is a good CV? will it matter in the future. sounds stupid but ive heard ppl saying locally good or bad CV everyone is equal

This post has been edited by arsenwagon: May 4 2012, 01:00 AM

yes i heard in aus and US theyre important for the more competitive ones

how bout SG and MY?

how come only half of cambridge pre-clinicals go on to do clinicals? is it because the assessment is super tough?

IMHO while it is bad to have lax exam standards, there is no point in having super tough exams to the point where it goes beyond being a test of competency. except maybe to uphold the elitism

This post has been edited by arsenwagon: May 12 2012, 12:03 AM