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post Sep 3 2009, 05:26 PM

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1st year UCSI student =)
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QUOTE(Cristiano-Ronaldo-7 @ Sep 3 2009, 06:06 PM)
oh thought one love was going to IMU

second that! imu students have too much free time! its true!!
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Nah didn't make it cos they didn't recognize my foundation program. =( its ok.
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post Sep 5 2009, 12:02 AM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Sep 4 2009, 11:32 AM)
my bad, yes you are right, i think i confused him with you!

i believe onelove did an fy in Perth.......was it canning?....

the point about using fy to get into critical courses like medicine stands......
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sorry i din see the posts till now =/ I was taking FY in Taylors College in Perth. This FY is specifically for UWA so it's not the more general and widely accepted FY offered by Canning College. Some differences by the FY offered by my college, and the FY in Canning. Made a wrong move back then, but oh well, can't do anything bout it, so mind as well just move on. =)
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post Sep 12 2009, 10:45 PM

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I'm sorry MBBS >< I still don't get your question. =/ All that came to my mind are gluconeogenesis and glycogenolysis processes in the case of diabetes. Not sure whether it's related to your question or not. >< sorry


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post Sep 13 2009, 12:28 PM

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Valens don't worry. Not ALL medical students will end up with a licence to save*or kill* lives. My lecturers did mention about the % of medical students failing to get their licence to practice, but sadly I've forgotten the actual figure.
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post Sep 13 2009, 08:06 PM

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QUOTE(cygoh9 @ Sep 13 2009, 06:58 PM)


Added on September 13, 2009, 7:03 pm

to be honest, and to be frank, i know someone's gonna bang me for this but yea, if i'm good, i think i deserve $$ for that.
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if one's a good and competent doctor, i don't mind paying him more being a patient myself. =) I reckon what he was saying is that don't let the $$$ issue be the main driving force behind the pursuing of medicine. I've heard cases of doctors doing 'rallies' just so that they can earn more money, ie they rushed in diagnosing and prescribing drugs for the patient (some just asking them "what drugs you want.") and literally shoo-ing the patient away so that they can see more patients. more patients = more $$. Not sure how true is that, but I've heard such sad news.
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QUOTE(haya @ Sep 13 2009, 08:14 PM)
It is immaterial that "[n]ot ALL medical students will end up with a licence to[...] kill lives". 1 is too many.

We need ALL doctors to be competent, not just a few who can "just" do "normal GP work/normal Antibiotics/recognising potential life threatening diseases"
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agree that 1 is too many. Well in the end it all comes down to ourselves as a medical student/doctor, whether we opt to be a competent one, or an incompetent one who only knows the basic GP work/antibiotics. I can't ensure you what category i will fall into but I'm definitely striving hard to be in the competent group =)
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sounds like a football stadium xD And yes, there'll be more super-qualified taxi drivers in future. I reckon they should stop building more institutes, and bring in more quality lecturers. For what I know, there's a lack of experienced lecturers in Msia.
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post Dec 16 2009, 11:46 PM

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QUOTE(iJoel @ Dec 16 2009, 11:40 PM)
Hi guys, I have just finished SPM and currently in dilemma on which way should I opt for.
I am pretty sure that I want to do medicine in the future but I am still pondering whether I should go for A-level/SAM or straight to pre-med. Have you guys heard of President College in KL? They are offering pre-med studies and my family actually advised me to enroll.
Is it better to take pre-med directly than A-level/SAM as in having better chance to secure a place in my further medical studies?
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from my experience, A levels. Widely recognised cert which is just what you need. Pre-med/Pre-U pretty much binds you down and if you don't get in, you suffer the consequences.
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post Jan 3 2010, 09:32 PM

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QUOTE(choon hon @ Jan 3 2010, 08:25 PM)
hey guys , i just wanna ask a question here ...
Is it possible for me to study medicine for degree programme if i didnt take Biology for Alevels ? ...
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yeah, depending on the requirement of the university. Some don't require biology as a prerequisite subject to enter medicine, some do. But then again, you'll need to know the fundamentals of biology(I'll say....till form 5/pre-U standard) , if not you'll suffer when you enter the course. Pardon my curiosity, but why medicine when you didn't intend to take biology initially?
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QUOTE(MBBS siang @ Jan 16 2010, 11:36 AM)
Format of the exam is not the main concerned. My friend from new castle(UK) also never answer the essay questions but they know what they learned.

The main problem in Indo is the course contents in basic medical sciences rather than the exam format. In my college, we also don't have the essay but our final exam contain short answer questions.

In my opinion, sometime essay questions may bring some negative effect to the medical students. Medical students tend to study for exam or try to memorize what they learned for exam just because worry about the essay questions. Of course, not all students will be like that but I believe most of the medical students will do that if there are essay questions. smile.gif
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he did mention about SAQ and LAQ. By rights there should be some of SAQ/LAQ rather than 200 questions of MCQ. the bold part I don't really understand. I reckon you're saying that they are blindly memorizing w/o understanding for the exams?
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according to the list in page 1, I can't find any Us in china recognized =/
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post Jan 19 2010, 06:28 PM

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QUOTE(csrulez @ Jan 19 2010, 06:21 PM)
You sure do not understand what limeuu was trying to convey. HKU is far more competitive compared to unis in Oz/UK or even IPTA, the entry requirement is far greater than unis in oz/uk. Which means that, getting into HKU is much tougher compared to entering into medical schools in oz/uk with the same result.
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very true. I have a few HK friends and they are saying the same thing. fishnetwenyi any particular reason you're opting for HKU? =/
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post Jan 26 2010, 07:18 PM

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Most of the group of 8 in Aus are changing to graduate entry. Think UWA will be doing that soon (well, we heard news of that happening next year but not sure yet).

In Aus, you'll needa go through GAMSAT, an interview, and you'll need to ace your first degree. =) I'm not sure but people tell me that it's harder to get in the MBBS program using graduate entry compared to direct entry, unless of course the uni doesn't provide a direct entry (from year 12/Alvl etc).

I remembered them telling me that a lot of students who opted to go into medicine after their year 12, gave up or just can't follow up with the course. So, the uni is changing towards graduate entry medicine because they feel that graduates are more mature and they know what they want in life.

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QUOTE(manking91 @ Jan 26 2010, 08:45 PM)
latest news i got from a yr5 med student...the MMC fellow said that there was 600 registered for doc in 07,2000 in 08, 3500 in 09 and they predict there will be 4500 in 10. so, with monash,newcastle,taylors,utar,aimst med students yet to come out... any comments for those who want to be doc??
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Nope, I stand by my decision of being a doctor. I got my own reasons and stories. And for the alarming rise of number of doctors, I'll just have to work harder and do my part. =) btw, you missed UCSI, 1st batch coming out this July.
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QUOTE(manking91 @ Jan 29 2010, 09:44 AM)
obviously majority of those who join the bandwagon don't do much researches... only 2 out of ten of my friends who are goin to take med haf real great detail how the situation is now....in addition to that...when i talked about how bad the situation is to one of my less informative friend who wants to be a doc....he just said...o~ it's alright...i'll be a great doc... so what do u think??
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Your 'situation' is referring to the increase of number of doctors in the mere future, and that doctors will flood the streets and sell pisang goreng? =P ok i was joking bout the pisang goreng. xD Calm down my friend. Statistics might show that way, and yes it's true that it will happen, no doubt. But hey, for me, I'll say the same stuff as what your friend said. I'll thrive to be a good doctor to ensure my job is secured. Cos my passion is medicine, and I've a clear goal and motive of going down this pathway. =) So other than do my very very best, in each and every situation, I guess there ain't other solutions.

Besides, there're risks in every job. When the economy collapses, you'll see so many people jobless. But when there's a boom, you'll see people working like there's no tomorrow. So, I'll just do what I'm passionate at, regardless of what's gonna happen tmr. Cos we have no idea bout tomorrow rite? =)

QUOTE(fishnetwenyi @ Jan 29 2010, 12:37 PM)
i think if you're really hardcore on becoming a doctor and if it's the only thing you set your mind to do, then such statistics won't matter, because if you're passionate and determined enough in your field, you wouldn't mind working harder to achieve what you want whether or not there's competition involved.

so, 'it's alright. i'll be a great doc'. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(CyberSetan @ Jan 30 2010, 09:26 PM)
See the bolded Red part~

From "The Star", 30th Jan 2010:
Interesting.. yes?
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So um, there'll be another uni offering med in Malaysia soon? This time an IPTA. *I've never heard of UPNM though ><*
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QUOTE(yana89 @ Feb 1 2010, 04:57 PM)
bt i juz herd dat they r extending it to 10 yers? is there any conformation?

hurmm..i think it depends on the person itself....

in my opinion, if u studied on public fund eg gov scholership or something i'd call u selfish...
for those who studied overseas on JPA nad MARA expense and didn't comeback to serve i think them as highly ungrateful...
to make them worse...they don't even bother to pay back...a waste of public money  vmad.gif

if its on ur own expense than go ahead...
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thought that there's a bond of 10 years after you finish studying? That is if you're taking JPA scholarship. Can you run off after that? I've only heard people being released from their bonds (for those taking scholarships) because they are um, say, not so competent.
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QUOTE(Gorila_ @ Feb 1 2010, 06:59 PM)
They can choose to buy off the bond, now its RM1mil-1.3mil. After that you are free as a bird.

The reason why those who study abroad choose to stay put its because wether its M'sia or foreign land thay are treated the same, so why not stay in a country which pays more.
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1m-1.3m??????? you sure that's the right amount? O.o cos that's outrages. I mean, the fees itself may just be half of that sum =/ Um, how can they afford to pay off such a large sum when they are just fresh grads? >.<

Well, personally I'll stay there to work (if granted) for a period of time and see how it goes after that. But I do wish to come back here to work as this is my home country =) Just the question of when. That is, if I finish my 5 years in one piece =)
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QUOTE(limeuu @ Feb 1 2010, 08:54 PM)
the bond penalty used to be a disproportionately small amount.........about rm130k for those who got the scholarships in the early 2000's.........

since the last 5 years, when they realised many people are breaking their bonds, the penalty is now based on the FULL amount jpa spends on you.........

that includes 2 years pre-u studies, all tuition fees paid, all allowances given, all airfares, insurance premiums, visa fees etc spent..........

and that WILL come up to 1mil or more, depending on which uni you studied (eg melbourne fees aud54k X 6 years =rm1mil, edinburgh gbp30k X 5=rm850k in fees alone)..........
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Well, that will pretty much bind them down for good =/ Well, IMHO, i think it'll be right to serve the country back since they sponsored them to study. Then again, i'll have to admit, those who graduated and gotten away with the small bond penalty are pretty lucky.
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QUOTE(flamelye @ Feb 12 2010, 06:20 PM)
regarding  china MBBS

please BARE in mind that SINGAPORE only recognises the Master of Medicine, which is in chinse medium,and takes 7/8 yearsm but not the MBBS english medium(5 years)
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oh, din know that, thanks for the info. Any source to clarify?

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