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 AS1M, ASM, ASW, ASB V2, PNB fund

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post Sep 23 2010, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(amalthea @ Sep 23 2010, 02:28 PM)
cookie monster, i do not mean to be rude but your blutant comments and over confidence without checking properly only show stupidity
http://www.icicibank.com/interest-rates.html
check this it is 7.5% p.a for 990 days
just like the local bank FDs they have different rate based on how long you wanna keep them but all interests are p.a.
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You can't compare returns in different currencies just like that. That's in India. At least convert it using forward rate. Then adjust country risk etc...

This post has been edited by vergas: Sep 23 2010, 03:19 PM
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post Sep 23 2010, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(cookie-monster @ Sep 23 2010, 02:29 PM)
If Najib transformation program successful, ringgit shoots up to RM2.50 to US dollar? habis lo.
That is highly unlikely though.


QUOTE(silentsurfer @ Sep 23 2010, 02:43 PM)
guys, just a noob question.

How long after the declaration of dividend of AS1M before we can go update our passbooks? smile.gif
Starting from 1/10 morning every year.

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post Sep 23 2010, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Sep 23 2010, 03:21 PM)
That is highly unlikely though.
Starting from 1/10 morning every year.
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post Sep 23 2010, 04:02 PM

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i am happy but i was hopping it would be closer to the magic 7 number.... but it is better than fd..
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post Sep 23 2010, 04:47 PM

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considering that lots of blogspots etc were saying that this would only give a return of 4-5%.. i guess a 6.38sen per unit aitn too shabby. that said.. this is the maiden declaration so would hv been nicer if much higher smile.gif

now to hope that the bumi/ind quota is opened up..

when is was launhced, think there was a limitation imposed as to the amount of units a person can purchased. has that been waived or suspended as the sales have been slow at some point?

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post Sep 23 2010, 04:59 PM

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Im selling 30K Chinese quota, get ready if you want to buy~
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post Sep 23 2010, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(Demitri @ Sep 23 2010, 04:59 PM)
Im selling 30K Chinese quota, get ready if you want to buy~
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pls let me know how the process is. seriously interested.
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QUOTE(Demitri @ Sep 23 2010, 04:59 PM)
Im selling 30K Chinese quota, get ready if you want to buy~
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do tell which date and time (morning/evening) u planning to sell.. i'll be the crouching tiger then. thx!

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amalthea
post Sep 23 2010, 09:15 PM

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QUOTE(vergas @ Sep 23 2010, 03:18 PM)
You can't compare returns in different currencies just like that. That's in India.  At least convert it using forward rate. Then adjust country risk etc...
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you are totally right, but guess what, i was not comparing apple to apple either, that is why i posted so we can discuss smile.gif
but the earlier poster did not read properly and thought it was 6.x for 990 days instead of 6.x p.a. for a 990 days placement
that was what i was clarifying
what are you thoughts on this?


Added on September 23, 2010, 9:17 pm
QUOTE(Demitri @ Sep 23 2010, 04:59 PM)
Im selling 30K Chinese quota, get ready if you want to buy~
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hey if you are serious, maybe we could meet up
so we can do transactions on the spot
then of course we can for nice lunch or something (on me of course lah)
i was planning to put around 40K also

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post Sep 24 2010, 09:20 AM

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QUOTE(cookie-monster @ Sep 23 2010, 02:23 PM)
Mr Amaltea's product is 7.5% for 990 days. Which means if you deposit RM1000 , you will get RM1075 after 990 days. That's 2 years 9 months.

AS1M, assuming you can get 6.38% this year, and the next year (2 years of 6.38%) , your return of RM1000 will become RM1063.8 for first year, and RM1063.80 x 6.38% for the second year = RM 1131.6.  It's compounded interest of 13 % in 2 years instead of his product only 7.5 %.

Don't get cheated by those numbers.

Unit trust companies like to play with 3 years (*) average return of 15%, 20% etc, but if you take into account their annual service fee, their trading fee... it's much lesser than that.

Take ASW2020 for example, their return has been consistently above 6%. Take 6% and compound it for 3 years, you get 19% return with NO annual service fee, no selling fee whatsoever. Any unit trust fund can beat it? hardly
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Yes, i certainly agree on the return part..

Many unit trust companies reported the average return without considering the service charge of 5% (normally charged at this range)..


Added on September 24, 2010, 9:22 am
QUOTE(silentsurfer @ Sep 23 2010, 02:43 PM)
guys, just a noob question.

How long after the declaration of dividend of AS1M before we can go update our passbooks? smile.gif
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1st of October 2010


Added on September 24, 2010, 9:37 am
QUOTE(jphlau @ Sep 23 2010, 04:02 PM)
i am happy but i was hopping it would be closer to the magic 7 number.... but it is better than fd..
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Me too, but after recalling about their dividend policy, i do realize that they are going to set apart of the earnings for retained earnings..

Thereby, the dividend become less than 7%, but however, still better than the thoughts of other people who keep mentioning the dividend is 4% last time during its launching..

Now, many of the people are regretting on their perception that leads to the lost of opportunity.. nod.gif

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QUOTE(smartinvestor01 @ Sep 24 2010, 09:20 AM)
Yes, i certainly agree on the return part..

Many unit trust companies reported the average return without considering the service charge of 5% (normally charged at this range)..


Added on September 24, 2010, 9:22 am

1st of October 2010


Added on September 24, 2010, 9:37 am

Me too, but after recalling about their dividend policy, i do realize that they are going to set apart of the earnings for retained earnings..

Thereby, the dividend become less than 7%, but however, still better than the thoughts of other people who keep mentioning the dividend is 4% last time during its launching..

Now, many of the people are regretting on their perception that leads to the lost of opportunity..  nod.gif
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get ready for the rush after 1st october!

i for one was waiting for ASM1's maiden distribution stats this month.. and now that it is out, more ppl will dump money inside ASM1 (except for the sold out chinese quota)

still 6.38 is not bad compared to FD's in banks


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post Sep 24 2010, 04:25 PM

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Actually if know some bankers very well, u can put in asm anytime. But maybe need duit kopi lah
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post Sep 24 2010, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(mois @ Sep 24 2010, 04:25 PM)
Actually if know some bankers very well, u can put in asm anytime. But maybe need duit kopi lah
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Yape, that is true.. ^^
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post Sep 24 2010, 05:52 PM

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felling to top up my as1m.. still available?

actually how to buy ASM? just go to counter got quota left or not..? den if have just buy it???

or need many kind of procedure?
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post Sep 24 2010, 08:24 PM

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AS1M chinese quota sudah full?
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post Sep 24 2010, 09:46 PM

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as stated at :http://www.bernama.com/bernama/v5/newsindex.php?id=529727

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So far, 100 per cent of the quota given to the Chinese community has been subscribed while the units for Bumiputeras and Indians have remained largely unsubscribed.

"While it has taken time, we are now beginning to see growing interest from the Bumiputeras," he told a media briefing Thursday.

On a monthly average, some RM30 million worth of units are sold to Bumiputeras, he added.--Bernama
this sounds absurd, are they trying to say all these while (for more than a year) there were empty lots floating for malaysia and indians?
can someone who is indian or malay who just got it recently confirm this, or some banker who has the info?


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QUOTE(jack2 @ Sep 24 2010, 08:24 PM)
AS1M chinese quota sudah full?
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post Sep 24 2010, 10:23 PM

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If i'm correct, this thing actually happen in the case of asw 2020 few years back where the non-bumi quota fully subscribed (49%) & there are lot of unsold bumi units (51%) still unsold (currently even bumi units sold out). So this thing of unsold bumi, indians & others units floating where the chinese quota fully finish is normal....

The think that i don't understand is how pnb want to credit the dividend into the chinese account unitholder because chinese quota is fully subscribed (3 billion). maybe they will give cheque hmm.gif.... as for bumi, indian & others, the dividend can be credited into their account because quota not fully taken up..... anyway need to wait until 1st oct to know...

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post Sep 24 2010, 10:45 PM

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anyone know about AMB FUND?
Eespcially for Amanah value trust fund, is it open for all races or only bumi?

thanks
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 24 2010, 10:23 PM)
If i'm correct, this thing actually happen in the case of asw 2020 few years back where the non-bumi quota fully subscribed (49%) & there are lot of unsold bumi units (51%) still unsold (currently even bumi units sold out).  So this thing of unsold bumi, indians & others units floating where the chinese quota fully finish is normal....
Confirm still sold out ? As far as i know, there were many Bumiputra selling back their units to ASNB in the last few weeks. Me being one of them laugh.gif

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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Sep 24 2010, 10:51 PM)
Confirm still sold out ? As far as i know, there were many Bumiputra selling back their units to ASNB in the last few weeks. Me being one of them  laugh.gif
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Interesting development happening there.... bumi ppl selling asw2020...... maybe they got better offer in asb..... even i will sell the asw2020 for asb if not max 200k..... biggrin.gif

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