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 AS1M, ASM, ASW, ASB V2, PNB fund

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amalthea
post Sep 9 2010, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(sotong168 @ Sep 9 2010, 07:21 PM)
about the dividend, is a cash payout or top-up into account?
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dividend on paper it is written they will pay cash if "tidak cukup unit untuk dilaburkan semula"
but so far for ASW2020 and ASM always seem to be topup to account one
not sure about ASB tough because i am not a melayu
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post Sep 10 2010, 08:38 AM

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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Sep 10 2010, 12:31 AM)
Divided + bonus are credited into the account. By the way, not all ASB account holders are Malays. I am one such example  smile.gif
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you are bumiputera sabah sarawak? so you're a non bumi muslim as well?
wah best of both worlds!

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post Sep 23 2010, 01:59 PM

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this one is much better

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post Sep 23 2010, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(cookie-monster @ Sep 23 2010, 02:05 PM)
what nonsense.

990 days = 2.7 years

If you got a 6.38% compounded for 2 years (730 days) you get 13.16% return.

AS1m pawns your plan 1000000%
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QUOTE(cookie-monster @ Sep 23 2010, 02:23 PM)
Mr Amaltea's product is 7.5% for 990 days. Which means if you deposit RM1000 , you will get RM1075 after 990 days. That's 2 years 9 months.

AS1M, assuming you can get 6.38% this year, and the next year (2 years of 6.38%) , your return of RM1000 will become RM1063.8 for first year, and RM1063.80 x 6.38% for the second year = RM 1131.6.  It's compounded interest of 13 % in 2 years instead of his product only 7.5 %.

Don't get cheated by those numbers.

Unit trust companies like to play with 3 years (*) average return of 15%, 20% etc, but if you take into account their annual service fee, their trading fee... it's much lesser than that.

Take ASW2020 for example, their return has been consistently above 6%. Take 6% and compound it for 3 years, you get 19% return with NO annual service fee, no selling fee whatsoever. Any unit trust fund can beat it? hardly
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cookie monster, i do not mean to be rude but your blutant comments and over confidence without checking properly only show stupidity
http://www.icicibank.com/interest-rates.html
check this it is 7.5% p.a for 990 days
just like the local bank FDs they have different rate based on how long you wanna keep them but all interests are p.a.

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post Sep 23 2010, 09:15 PM

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QUOTE(vergas @ Sep 23 2010, 03:18 PM)
You can't compare returns in different currencies just like that. That's in India.  At least convert it using forward rate. Then adjust country risk etc...
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you are totally right, but guess what, i was not comparing apple to apple either, that is why i posted so we can discuss smile.gif
but the earlier poster did not read properly and thought it was 6.x for 990 days instead of 6.x p.a. for a 990 days placement
that was what i was clarifying
what are you thoughts on this?


Added on September 23, 2010, 9:17 pm
QUOTE(Demitri @ Sep 23 2010, 04:59 PM)
Im selling 30K Chinese quota, get ready if you want to buy~
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hey if you are serious, maybe we could meet up
so we can do transactions on the spot
then of course we can for nice lunch or something (on me of course lah)
i was planning to put around 40K also

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post Sep 24 2010, 09:46 PM

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as stated at :http://www.bernama.com/bernama/v5/newsindex.php?id=529727

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So far, 100 per cent of the quota given to the Chinese community has been subscribed while the units for Bumiputeras and Indians have remained largely unsubscribed.

"While it has taken time, we are now beginning to see growing interest from the Bumiputeras," he told a media briefing Thursday.

On a monthly average, some RM30 million worth of units are sold to Bumiputeras, he added.--Bernama
this sounds absurd, are they trying to say all these while (for more than a year) there were empty lots floating for malaysia and indians?
can someone who is indian or malay who just got it recently confirm this, or some banker who has the info?


Added on September 24, 2010, 9:46 pm
QUOTE(jack2 @ Sep 24 2010, 08:24 PM)
AS1M chinese quota sudah full?
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answered

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post Sep 30 2010, 11:31 AM

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hi guys, can i open a new AS1M tomorrow, 1st October, if i am a malay? (just checking, of course not for myself)

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post Sep 30 2010, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(smartinvestor01 @ Sep 30 2010, 02:09 PM)
Maybe u have to ask directly..

For the Malay quota, i am not very sure... Maybe there is some chance..  nod.gif
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if chinese?
i think for indian there are still so many left right?

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post Sep 30 2010, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Sep 30 2010, 05:33 PM)
The Chinese quota has long been fully subscribed. Chinese only stand a chance only if someone sold his/her tomorrow.
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indian how?
i have close friends in 1malaysia.
i can buy under them and transfer later right?
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post Oct 10 2010, 07:18 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Oct 10 2010, 12:01 AM)
Zeist, do NOT depend ONLY on the PNB mechanisms, and wait for it everyday. Enhance your knowledge of investments, look out into the world for more investment opportunities, investment instruments and tactics.

DO NOT DEPEND ON PNB ONLY.
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sentiments aside, just like my iphone sucks thread, this world is not about who reads more text books, but it is about who made it right
zeist may not know much about investments as you but let's get into results
if you are a bumi, you can go a looooonnnnggg way with the kind of interests ONB is paying you
why would he need to give a toooot about some challenging investment instruments you have?

you sound like non bumi and so am i, bear in mind you can almost get free money if you put you despoits with PNB and take loan back from them if you are bumi at a lower rate.


Added on October 10, 2010, 7:23 pm
QUOTE(MNet @ Oct 9 2010, 03:50 PM)
u need to wait ppl sell only can buy.

i gv 20k to bank staff to help me direct in when gt ppl sell.
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i hope that's not maybank
that's the same bank that would tell you units are all taken up when they are not when you are indeed at the counter
so how could they it when you're away
they tell me they will call me , try for me and all those nonsense
inside most banks itself got syndicates constantly trying

IF you manage to pull this off, please share with us the branch name
sharing is the keyword here

unless you have maybank private banking then yes they will do for you
i have done that before in taman tun private banking centre,
they tried whole day and managed to get my 20K in, that time 20K was the max for the promotional period of ASW2020


Added on October 10, 2010, 7:26 pm
QUOTE(MNet @ Oct 10 2010, 12:08 AM)
buy more UT
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buy personal money, they have all the major unit trusts listed
about 30 of them
play Eni Meni Mini Mo and pick 5 of them at random take the average

if your average is higher than 8% minus the administrative charges then you win
if not UT just sucks

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post Oct 11 2010, 05:02 PM

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QUOTE(firee818 @ Oct 11 2010, 11:32 AM)
Hi,

I m going to sell off ASW RM 10,000
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hi sayang, no need to announce, 10K, by the time you leave the bank, the bank staff themselves take already.
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post Oct 13 2010, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(g00glesYYl @ Oct 13 2010, 11:21 AM)
hi, do yours still remember CIMB max invest save (should be this name)?

I guess it is nonperforming.  Anyone has cancel this acct and how much % of $$ you can get back now?
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wrong thread
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post Oct 18 2010, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(MGM @ Oct 18 2010, 11:36 AM)
Can we use funds in ASW, ASM and AS1M as collateral for loan?
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good question hopefully mr chase can answer for you
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post Oct 19 2010, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(ah_suknat @ Oct 19 2010, 08:48 AM)
to convert to cert means like how?
still can withdraw the money like normal? or cannot, and have to leave the money in asb for some period like Fixed deposit?
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cert
you can withdraw like normal, but unlike passbook, it is used if you wanna trade in the entire lumpsum
for example 100K cert + 100K cert = 200K cert
passbook, you can withdraw as much as your desire, 20K today and 50K tomorrow. more flexible like a savings account.

BUT once you have given in to the bank as coleteral, why does it matter? you cannot have access to it anyway.
if this your question than what i can say is only doh.gif

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post Oct 21 2010, 07:27 PM

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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Oct 20 2010, 06:25 PM)
Not sure about ASW2020, all i know is that it is divided to 49% non-bumi and the rest for bumi. As for AS1M, indeed it is divided between bumi, Chinese, Indian and non-bumi minorities.
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for ASW2020 there is no such thing bumi chinese indian and inbetween
they only seprate by BUMI and NON BUMI

the bumi, chinese, indian and non bumi minority is for AS1M only. in fact it was the first fund from PNB that was like that

for AS1M only the chinese is fully subscribed
bumi, indian and non bumi minority is availble
source: PNB, checked 1 week ago
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post Oct 21 2010, 07:31 PM

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QUOTE(mikecrush @ Oct 21 2010, 04:53 PM)

Added on October 21, 2010, 5:26 pm

ASW2020
51% for bumis        =  RM1,020,000.00
   
29.97% for chinese 
14.99% for indians
4.04% for lain lain
49%                      = RM980,000.00

Total  100%            =  RM2,000,000.00
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this is pure bullshit
not only the fund size is wrong as highlighted by milesandmore, but the ethnic/bumi-non bumi breakdown....where did you get it?
there is no such bullshit, don't make up figures yourself.
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post Feb 9 2011, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Feb 9 2011, 03:34 PM)
Are u sure? Ive heard some posts saying some are available
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ASM for indians still available
and also for bumi minorities
i am a bumi and i still can put in

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post Feb 9 2011, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(alvinfks78 @ Feb 9 2011, 04:16 PM)
i think indians still got as1m left
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i wish i am indian too
i can just walk in anytime

just like walk in interview

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post Mar 9 2011, 08:49 AM

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QUOTE(wongpeter @ Mar 8 2011, 07:44 PM)
Correct me if I am wrong.

I don't think there are any strategies in ASB. Just dump in the max amt allowed which is RM200K. Then sit back and wait for the annual dividends and bonuses. In a good year could be as high as 9% returns and in a bad year will still be more than 6% returns. So what strategies are you talking about.
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you are right
no correction needed
if you're a bumi then ASB is a no brainer
just dump in your money, sit back and enjoy the show
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post Apr 14 2011, 06:43 PM

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QUOTE(tohzw @ Apr 13 2011, 04:45 PM)
IN 2008, it was 7.80, 2009=6.25, 2010=6.30 and now=6.38. Increasing by a mere 0.08% from 2010 to 2011. From what i observe, The dividend rate tends to move along with bank interest rates?
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maybe, their dividend "allocation", where they decide how much to declare to pay you based on the bank's interests rates maybe. after all look at the way they go in and out of klse counters, not the smartest timing and wrong moved.
PNB is like that. their staff always go for training one...

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