guys can we still go create as1m book even now there none unit for sale ftb*?
AS1M, ASM, ASW, ASB V2, PNB fund
AS1M, ASM, ASW, ASB V2, PNB fund
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Sep 28 2010, 09:55 PM
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guys can we still go create as1m book even now there none unit for sale ftb*?
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Sep 28 2010, 10:04 PM
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Sep 28 2010, 11:06 PM
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 28 2010, 10:04 PM) ASB 31.12.2010 7%+1.25% = 8.25% Please refrain from posting misleading information. Some people might think this is the real one. |
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Sep 29 2010, 12:12 AM
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Sep 29 2010, 07:35 AM
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Hi, does any Bumi do what I say as in the below posting ?
Miles, good explanations there. Hmm, looks like it's a good way to place cash inside PNB Funds as Emergency Funds. Good liquidity, and good dividend for the Fixed Price Funds. Can withdraw for, say, medical emergencies. Then, for Daily Expenses - another creative way. Meaning : a Fixed Price Fund unitholder will only need to travel to any bank to selloff some units at every month-end, and use the money for the rest of the month. Then comes another month-end, do the same thing again. The calculation must be good - the total units sold away, being equal to the total amount withdrawn for monthly expenses; -> when totalled up for the whole year must be equal to the total amount of divdend earned in the previous year to keep the principal constant, and therefore, be able to generate the same "expenses amount" again for the following year. One must be careful not to withdraw more than what one earns as dividend at the preceding year. In this way, so long as the dividend yield remains constant year in and year out, there will be income earned consistently for spending. Have I missed anything ? |
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Sep 29 2010, 08:13 AM
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Sep 29 2010, 07:35 AM) Hi, does any Bumi do what I say as in the below posting ? If your sales your units away, your will lose the power of compounding unless it is in urgent conditions. One must be beware that your capital is also depreciating in value over time! However, PNB's fixed price funds are still considered as one of the best fund/trust fund in our country. Miles, good explanations there. Hmm, looks like it's a good way to place cash inside PNB Funds as Emergency Funds. Good liquidity, and good dividend for the Fixed Price Funds. Can withdraw for, say, medical emergencies. Then, for Daily Expenses - another creative way. Meaning : a Fixed Price Fund unitholder will only need to travel to any bank to selloff some units at every month-end, and use the money for the rest of the month. Then comes another month-end, do the same thing again. The calculation must be good - the total units sold away, being equal to the total amount withdrawn for monthly expenses; -> when totalled up for the whole year must be equal to the total amount of divdend earned in the previous year to keep the principal constant, and therefore, be able to generate the same "expenses amount" again for the following year. One must be careful not to withdraw more than what one earns as dividend at the preceding year. In this way, so long as the dividend yield remains constant year in and year out, there will be income earned consistently for spending. Have I missed anything ? |
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Sep 29 2010, 08:33 AM
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Sep 29 2010, 07:35 AM) Hi, does any Bumi do what I say as in the below posting ? I think many people use this, because of its liquidity, the best place for emergency funds.Miles, good explanations there. Hmm, looks like it's a good way to place cash inside PNB Funds as Emergency Funds. Good liquidity, and good dividend for the Fixed Price Funds. Can withdraw for, say, medical emergencies. QUOTE(Hansel @ Sep 29 2010, 07:35 AM) Then, for Daily Expenses - another creative way. Meaning : a Fixed Price Fund unitholder will only need to travel to any bank to selloff some units at every month-end, and use the money for the rest of the month. Then comes another month-end, do the same thing again. Really good idea. At say RM200k dividend say 7% gives you RM14,000 per year, say you took out RM1 per month, that's RM12k per year left with another RM2k not withdrawn for the year. Is RM1k sufficient? Well still something. Its like a pension for the future then.The calculation must be good - the total units sold away, being equal to the total amount withdrawn for monthly expenses; -> when totalled up for the whole year must be equal to the total amount of divdend earned in the previous year to keep the principal constant, and therefore, be able to generate the same "expenses amount" again for the following year. One must be careful not to withdraw more than what one earns as dividend at the preceding year. In this way, so long as the dividend yield remains constant year in and year out, there will be income earned consistently for spending. Have I missed anything ? This post has been edited by vergas: Sep 29 2010, 08:34 AM |
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Sep 29 2010, 10:25 AM
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Sep 29 2010, 01:24 PM
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Sep 29 2010, 01:53 PM
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Is my principal in my asnb account remain the same even after 10 years without any activities? or the value diminishing like some account?
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Sep 29 2010, 02:02 PM
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QUOTE(lurkermcnugget @ Sep 29 2010, 01:53 PM) Is my principal in my asnb account remain the same even after 10 years without any activities? or the value diminishing like some account? Principal would remain the same but you will definitely see more in your account as they credit the dividend + bonus into your account every year.Thank you |
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Sep 29 2010, 02:15 PM
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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Sep 29 2010, 02:02 PM) Principal would remain the same but you will definitely see more in your account as they credit the dividend + bonus into your account every year. And why is it my ASM balance is zero after 7 years i didnt update my book. I check at the counter my balance cause i lost the book. I dont remember how much i put in. |
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Sep 29 2010, 02:33 PM
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QUOTE(vergas @ Sep 29 2010, 09:33 AM) I think many people use this, because of its liquidity, the best place for emergency funds. Vargas, thank you for your replies.Really good idea. At say RM200k dividend say 7% gives you RM14,000 per year, say you took out RM1 per month, that's RM12k per year left with another RM2k not withdrawn for the year. Is RM1k sufficient? Well still something. Its like a pension for the future then. Yes, the PNB Fixed Price FUnds are certainly a good place for storing Emergency Funds. Secondly, that was a good eg there that you have constructed, very clear and simple to understand. Yes, exactly like what I wanted to say earlier in my post. Throughout the year, the 200K remains there to keep earning the dividend for the coming year expenses, and then the untouched 2K will help to earn more "expenses money" for the coming year to fight inflation. Yes, correct, it will be like a pension fund that will never be exhausted forever if we do not take out the 200K, and of course, if PNB does not fail. About the RM1K, it's certainly not enough, but imagine if your principal amount is RM400K instead of RM200K, then you can afford to spend RM2K, and so on and so forth. Meaning -> the bigger the principal amount, the more you can afford to withdraw from your "perpetual pension fund". Am I right in the above assumptions ? |
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Sep 29 2010, 03:44 PM
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QUOTE(lurkermcnugget @ Sep 29 2010, 02:15 PM) And why is it my ASM balance is zero after 7 years i didnt update my book. I check at the counter my balance cause i lost the book. I dont remember how much i put in. 7 years? due to no transaction for 7 years, ur monies might have been transferred to the Unclaimed Monies Act.. |
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Sep 29 2010, 04:58 PM
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QUOTE(smartinvestor01 @ Sep 29 2010, 03:44 PM) 7 years? due to no transaction for 7 years, ur monies might have been transferred to the Unclaimed Monies Act.. the 7 years rules only apply on the bank deposit s account, ASNB is a mutual fund company, so not apply. th ASM account cannot be zero, as the rule is u need to keep a certain small amount say RM10 (not sure abt this pls clarify) to keep the account alive. |
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Sep 29 2010, 05:03 PM
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Sep 29 2010, 05:07 PM
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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Sep 29 2010, 04:58 PM) the 7 years rules only apply on the bank deposit s account, ASNB is a mutual fund company, so not apply. Thank you for the kind reply, i shall mourn no more of the money goneth ASM account cannot be zero, as the rule is u need to keep a certain small amount say RM10 (not sure abt this pls clarify) to keep the account alive. |
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Sep 29 2010, 05:08 PM
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I bought my ASM during the first issue in Y2000. I only updated my book 9 years later, in Y2009 when I bought additional units.
The Principal + interest are still there. No problem. |
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Sep 29 2010, 06:48 PM
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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Sep 29 2010, 04:58 PM) the 7 years rules only apply on the bank deposit s account, ASNB is a mutual fund company, so not apply. Thanks for correcting me.. I almost forgot it is a mutual fund.. th ASM account cannot be zero, as the rule is u need to keep a certain small amount say RM10 (not sure abt this pls clarify) to keep the account alive. |
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Sep 29 2010, 08:40 PM
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Is over draft facility open back for Amanah Saham scheme?
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