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 AS1M, ASM, ASW, ASB V2, PNB fund

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tanch78
post Sep 22 2010, 01:16 PM

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Let's "day dream" that the dividend declared will be at least on par with ASB or even better!!!!! tongue.gif

Come on.. We must have positive thinking! Hahaha
jphlau
post Sep 22 2010, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(joeaverage @ Sep 22 2010, 09:38 AM)
http://www.bernama.com/bernama/v5/newsbusiness.php?id=529173

Interesting that he should mention that he expect sales to pick up after announcment of dividend  brows.gif
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how the sales gonna pick up since the chinese quota has finished and bumi has better return from ASB, unless the dividend is higher than ASB.
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post Sep 22 2010, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(jphlau @ Sep 22 2010, 01:27 PM)
how the sales gonna pick up since the chinese quota has finished and bumi has better return from ASB, unless the dividend is higher than ASB.
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I'll just stick my head in the sand and wait for the announcement.......

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post Sep 22 2010, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(jphlau @ Sep 22 2010, 01:27 PM)
how the sales gonna pick up since the chinese quota has finished and bumi has better return from ASB, unless the dividend is higher than ASB.
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well said, those who have invested in As1m just want the miracle to happen and they day dream the return to be as good as Asb
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post Sep 23 2010, 01:10 PM

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Just heard from radio. 6.38% can anyone verify this?
zephyryu
post Sep 23 2010, 01:45 PM

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Yes it is announced on TV3 just now. Only 6.38%.
amalthea
post Sep 23 2010, 01:59 PM

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this one is much better

cookie-monster
post Sep 23 2010, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(amalthea @ Sep 23 2010, 01:59 PM)
this one is much better
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what nonsense.

990 days = 2.7 years

If you got a 6.38% compounded for 2 years (730 days) you get 13.16% return.

AS1m pawns your plan 1000000%

This post has been edited by cookie-monster: Sep 23 2010, 02:05 PM
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post Sep 23 2010, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(zephyryu @ Sep 23 2010, 01:45 PM)
Yes it is announced on TV3 just now. Only 6.38%.
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Yes.. 6.38%, hm.. i think most probably low payout due to retained earnings..

Theoretically, PNB will allocate a certain portion of undeclared dividends (retained earnings) all their time.. Its their policy.. But i still hope for better results next financial period declaration..

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post Sep 23 2010, 02:08 PM

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Hi cookie-monster,

Can you elaborate more??

If you got a 6.38% compounded for 2 years (730 days) you get 13.16% return.
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post Sep 23 2010, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(smartinvestor01 @ Sep 23 2010, 02:05 PM)
Yes.. 6.38%, hm.. i think most probably low payout due to retained earnings..

Theoretically, PNB will allocate a certain portion of undeclared dividends (retained earnings) all their time.. Its their policy.. But i still hope for better results next financial period declaration..

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It's still a good and safe plan for those with low risk aversion.

Much better than FD, and all the cut-throat unit trust funds out there.
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post Sep 23 2010, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(cookie-monster @ Sep 23 2010, 02:08 PM)
It's still a good and safe plan for those with low risk aversion.

Much better than FD, and all the cut-throat unit trust funds out there.
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Yape, i agree.. Its an equity fund with no upfront charge, so.. still consider quite good.. nod.gif
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post Sep 23 2010, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(Demitri @ Sep 23 2010, 02:08 PM)
Hi cookie-monster,

Can you elaborate more??

If you got a 6.38% compounded for 2 years (730 days) you get 13.16% return.
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Mr Amaltea's product is 7.5% for 990 days. Which means if you deposit RM1000 , you will get RM1075 after 990 days. That's 2 years 9 months.

AS1M, assuming you can get 6.38% this year, and the next year (2 years of 6.38%) , your return of RM1000 will become RM1063.8 for first year, and RM1063.80 x 6.38% for the second year = RM 1131.6. It's compounded interest of 13 % in 2 years instead of his product only 7.5 %.

Don't get cheated by those numbers.

Unit trust companies like to play with 3 years (*) average return of 15%, 20% etc, but if you take into account their annual service fee, their trading fee... it's much lesser than that.

Take ASW2020 for example, their return has been consistently above 6%. Take 6% and compound it for 3 years, you get 19% return with NO annual service fee, no selling fee whatsoever. Any unit trust fund can beat it? hardly

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post Sep 23 2010, 02:25 PM

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Dividen sulung AS1M 6.38 sen seunit

2010/09/23

KUALA LUMPUR: Amanah Saham Nasional Bhd, anak syarikat Permodalan Nasional Bhd (PNB), mengumumkan agihan pendapatan sulung bagi Amanah Saham 1Malaysia (AS1M) sebanyak 6.38 sen seunit bagi tahun kewangan berakhir 30 September 2010.

http://www.bharian.com.my/articles/Dividen...seunit/Article/
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post Sep 23 2010, 02:26 PM

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ASM 31.3.2010 ---->6.30%
ASW 31.8.2010----->6.35%
AS1M 30.9.2010---->6.38%

I thought of some correlation between them and thus now the ranking is :-

The best AS1M
Second ASW
Third ASM


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post Sep 23 2010, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(cookie-monster @ Sep 23 2010, 02:05 PM)
what nonsense.

990 days = 2.7 years

If you got a 6.38% compounded for 2 years (730 days) you get 13.16% return.

AS1m pawns your plan 1000000%
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QUOTE(cookie-monster @ Sep 23 2010, 02:23 PM)
Mr Amaltea's product is 7.5% for 990 days. Which means if you deposit RM1000 , you will get RM1075 after 990 days. That's 2 years 9 months.

AS1M, assuming you can get 6.38% this year, and the next year (2 years of 6.38%) , your return of RM1000 will become RM1063.8 for first year, and RM1063.80 x 6.38% for the second year = RM 1131.6.  It's compounded interest of 13 % in 2 years instead of his product only 7.5 %.

Don't get cheated by those numbers.

Unit trust companies like to play with 3 years (*) average return of 15%, 20% etc, but if you take into account their annual service fee, their trading fee... it's much lesser than that.

Take ASW2020 for example, their return has been consistently above 6%. Take 6% and compound it for 3 years, you get 19% return with NO annual service fee, no selling fee whatsoever. Any unit trust fund can beat it? hardly
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cookie monster, i do not mean to be rude but your blutant comments and over confidence without checking properly only show stupidity
http://www.icicibank.com/interest-rates.html
check this it is 7.5% p.a for 990 days
just like the local bank FDs they have different rate based on how long you wanna keep them but all interests are p.a.

This post has been edited by amalthea: Sep 23 2010, 02:30 PM
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post Sep 23 2010, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(firee818 @ Sep 23 2010, 02:26 PM)
ASM 31.3.2010 ---->6.30%
ASW 31.8.2010----->6.35%
AS1M 30.9.2010---->6.38%

I thought of some correlation between them and thus  now the ranking is :-

The best AS1M
Second   ASW
Third      ASM
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They are all decent.


Added on September 23, 2010, 2:33 pm
QUOTE(amalthea @ Sep 23 2010, 02:28 PM)
cookie monster, i do not mean to be rude but your blutant comments and over confidence without checking properly only show stupidity
http://www.icicibank.com/interest-rates.html
check this it is 7.5% p.a for 990 days
just like the local bank FDs they have different rate based on how long you wanna keep them but all interests are p.a.
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I see it's a 7.5% per annum. Sorry my bad for not opening the link (too many ponzi schemes nowadays that I don't bother to open it anymore).

Have you considered the forex risk risk involved in your investment? RUPEE?

Will rupee go up or down 2 years from now?

If Najib transformation program successful, ringgit shoots up to RM2.50 to US dollar? habis lo.

If got another terrorist attack in India by pakistan, then rupee plunges again..


Not for me, TQ anyway.



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post Sep 23 2010, 02:34 PM

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lol. but still better than FD..
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post Sep 23 2010, 02:43 PM

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guys, just a noob question.

How long after the declaration of dividend of AS1M before we can go update our passbooks? smile.gif

Demitri
post Sep 23 2010, 02:43 PM

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Thanks Cookie Monster,

So far im satisfied with the number~ 6.38% Gotta buy that TOTO this weekend!

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