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 AS1M, ASM, ASW, ASB V2, PNB fund

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post Aug 6 2009, 12:44 PM

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QUOTE(lowyatben @ Aug 6 2009, 11:53 AM)
Should be the same yellow book. Why should there be different coloured books for same investment account type?

I mean, we already have a red, gold... what else?
I also have the blue passbook biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(soul2soul @ Aug 6 2009, 02:17 PM)
Bear in mind if your account is not from the home branch, you can only withdraw a maximum of 25,000 in one day.
I thought this only applies to Maybank Islamic Account ? I believe for conventional savings account, one can cash out any amount he/she likes.


QUOTE(ric0225 @ Aug 6 2009, 02:46 PM)
RHB Bank's max is 10,000 only per day, else you're charged RM5 service charge.  Apparently they have to verify with your home branch first and that phone call cost RM5.
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mad.gif Blood sucking !!!! I was told that i can withdraw any amount i like at any HSBC Malaysia branch without incurring any extra charge rclxms.gif But too bad HSBC is not a PNB agent.


QUOTE(vex @ Aug 6 2009, 04:27 PM)
i tot is capital gurantee ? bukan ?
QUOTE(lowyatben @ Aug 6 2009, 04:39 PM)
I believe the minimum is RM100. The talk among the public is that it's around 4%.
Now, I'm not sure about the capital guarantee part, though. Hmmm... Makes me re-think of my decision to purchase some units earlier today...
It is a fixed price fund. According to a "finance guru", fixed price is actually better than capital guaranteed. To learn more please click the link below :
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QUOTE(hocklai8 @ Aug 6 2009, 05:12 PM)
3) Why is our government trying to take so much money from the citizens recently? Sukuk, ASM, ASW, and now AS1M, and they're even trying to get some from our EPF. Where are all this money being invested?
To fund BN's grand stimulus plan laugh.gif

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post Aug 7 2009, 07:53 PM

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QUOTE(lowyatben @ Aug 7 2009, 09:24 AM)
That's why I'm regretting over getting into MBB's HDBS Greater China Fund sad.gif Almost 3 years now and I'll prob. get back my capital. Minus the interest sad.gif
Not sure how is Maybank's structured investments performing but as far as i am concerned, HSBC structured investments are doing great. In many of the structured investments HSBC launched in Malaysia, 9 out of 10 provided higher returns than time deposit (i am referring to last year's 12-month interest rate of 3.7%).

The only worst performing structured product from HSBC is the "Global Bank" fund, which only yield back 0.9% when it matured. That's because they invested in 3 counters namely Bank of America, Citibank and HSBC and we all know how Bank of America and Citibank's shares dropped significantly last year. Well, at least you didn't lose out any of your capital ... rclxms.gif


QUOTE(davinz18 @ Aug 7 2009, 04:45 PM)
(DON'T WANNA TO TALK MORE BCOZ U ALL WILL THINK I BERLAGAK NAK MAMPUS) smile.gif 
Please stop typing with the caps lock on !!!!
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QUOTE(samquah @ Aug 9 2009, 07:27 PM)
is it still possibel to buy asm or asw2020?
ASM is fully subscribed, be it Bumi or non-Bumi. As for ASW2020, billions of ASW2020 Bumiputra units still available.

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QUOTE(eric.tangps @ Aug 9 2009, 11:33 PM)
Which Bumis would buy 1Malaysia, ASW 2020 or ASM if ASB gives out higher rates ?
Those Bumiputras who have hit the RM200,000 limit with their ASB accounts.

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post Aug 10 2009, 12:05 PM

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QUOTE(lowyatben @ Aug 10 2009, 10:39 AM)
ASB has a RM200K quota. What about other AS*? Is there a limit?
Just a note, it used to be RM100,000 in the 90s.


QUOTE(lowyatben @ Aug 10 2009, 11:29 AM)
I think this only applies to the offer period only, right? After that, I think you can purchase more units. Please correct me if I'm wrong...
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Correct. Just like ASW2020 and ASM.


QUOTE(lonelyplanet92 @ Aug 10 2009, 11:49 AM)
the amanah saham 1 Malaysia nowadays sounded more and more like a pyramid scheme.. paying old investors dividends from the money gained from selling new amanah saham like the 1malaysia.

Ponzi scheme doesn't have a clear list where and when they help you to invest your money.

If the funds launched by PNB is a scam, then it is an entirely a whole different kind of scam.


QUOTE(lonelyplanet92 @ Aug 10 2009, 11:49 AM)
Most likely next General Election is around the corner, big campaign needs big money, must korek from AS1M. That is why Najis launched this fund
Believe the money is needed to fund Barisan Nasional's grand stimulus plan, same goes to Sukuk. Remember that we're not China. We do not have trillions of reserves to fund the country's stimulus plan. Basically it is like the government is taking a huge sum of loan from its citizens.

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QUOTE(ericong77 @ Aug 10 2009, 12:08 PM)
As for the amanah saham sabah thing, my dad told me that is also fixed at RM1

If i'm not mistaken, Amanah Saham Sabah is not fixed at RM1. It is just like ASN. No mention of fixed price or capital guaranteed in the master prospectus of Amanah Saham Sabah.


QUOTE(ericong77 @ Aug 10 2009, 12:08 PM)
and guarantee by Musa (Ketua Menteri Sabah).

How can it be guaranteed by Musa (the current chief minister of Sabah) ? Datuk Seri Yong Teck Li was the chief minister of Sabah when Amanah Saham Sabah was launched back in 1996.




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QUOTE(gunnerstkd @ Aug 10 2009, 03:36 PM)
wow..maybank staff in kl sentral really got attitude problem.. ask them for as1m form, they totally ignored me like i'm idiot..
Many Maybank staff got attitude problem, not just the KL Sentral branch laugh.gif

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QUOTE(uNeVErwaLkaloNe @ Aug 11 2009, 10:44 AM)
d) Wait and See approach, i dont really understand what that means.
Wait and see probably means they would like to see how this AS1M performs after 1 year. If the return is great, then many people will also go crazy for AS1M.

Remember when ASW2020 and ASM were introduced, response was not so great too.

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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Aug 12 2009, 05:01 PM)
i guess what u mean is different dividen to different funds. FYI, A.S.Bumiputera (which is only open for bumi investors) pay average dividen rate of 9% per year since its inception. The 9% is inclusive of bonus, for eg, FYE 31 Dec 2008, it declared 7% dividen +1.75% bonus. This dividen is the highest among all the fixed price products of PNB.
Please note that not all ASB account holder will get the full bonus.


QUOTE(sabrateur @ Aug 12 2009, 05:58 PM)
How is buying shares on the open market a 'bailout'?  The company doesn't get any of the money.  Get your facts straight la before saying anything.

If you at least said they want to jack up the price so that a certain 'shareholder' can exit at a higher price, then it makes more sense.
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This is all part of the government's stimulus package.
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Aug 14 2009, 03:09 PM)
3. Money@savings have finished because have invested in Sukuk, ASM (1st round), ASW, 
    ASM (2nd round-bumiputera qouta open to all)
Many also have their money locked in structured investments.

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QUOTE(Pan84 @ Aug 19 2009, 03:17 PM)
ASW 2020 annual report has been released. 2009 dividend declared 6.3 cent per unit.  Higher than FD. rclxms.gif
The lowest since launched. Still good nonetheless.

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QUOTE(soul2soul @ Aug 19 2009, 03:35 PM)
sauce please
Sauce ????

Anyway, here you go > ASW2020 YEAR 2009 DIVIDEND

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QUOTE(truth_seeker_09 @ Aug 20 2009, 10:22 AM)
hear from radio this morning. the pnb said actually can paid up to 8.X% but they want to use the money to invest more in the equity market.

I think they pay only 6.3% is ok. But where is 1.Xmore % goes? it should give bonus unit for the 1.x%. it will be unfair for the current investor.
PNB is known not to pay the dividend out in full so they can still give their investors a handsome return during economic downturn.

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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Aug 21 2009, 03:12 PM)
I agree with u, if no quota, it will be all finished sapu by 1 race, especially the kiasu type.

Those who are smart and have business sense will know they should not put all eggs in one basket. By one basket i mean ASNB (PNB), regardless which fund it is.

There are many rich Bumiputra too. My father personally know a few and have business deals with. The main difference for Bumiputra is that there is a huge gap between the rich Bumiputra and poor Bumiputra whereas the wealth of the Chinese is more balanced. Most of the rich Bumiputra are those elite Malays that are closely connected to the government and you do not see them putting all their money in any ASNB (PNB). Most of them probably do not invest in any other funds by ASNB (PNB) except ASB.

I bet the top 50 wealthiest Malaysians (be it Chinese, Malay or Indian) do not even take a look at PNB funds.

Even if ASNB (PNB) one day decides to abolish the racial quota for ASW2020 and AS1M by opening up the remaining unsold units to all Malaysian. It is likely that the Chinese, typically the race with more disposable income will also stop investing in ASNB (PNB) funds after their total investments in ASNB (PNB) reach certain level especially the kiasu ones. Let say they will self-imposed a limit of half a Million Ringgit only. Why ? Because those really rich Chinese have better faith in mega private banks such as HSBC Private Bank and Citi Private Bank etc.

The bottom line is that the Bumiputra quota for ASW2020, ASM (if any) and AS1M can be easily finished too. Just that those rich Bumiputra are NOT interested in ASNB (PNB) funds. Go figure brows.gif


QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Aug 21 2009, 03:12 PM)
PNB is to ensure that everyone from all etnic get the fair share of the fund. After all, this fund is launched by our PM, will use it for stimulating the country economy

It should be on a first come first served basis. Or else i think they have given the wrong name to this recently launched fund.

Many multi-ethnic countries have done away with quota rule. Why are we still stuck in the last century ? rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Aug 25 2009, 02:29 PM)
Brother ASM1 dividend not attractive enough only 4%.... wink.gif
Please take some time and read several posts back.

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Aug 27 2009, 05:15 PM)
Why PNB so Desperate in AS1M thing...... Don't Understand..... The malaysian government desperately need the money or what???

To fund Barisan Nasional's grand stimulus package.


QUOTE(davinz18 @ Aug 27 2009, 05:15 PM)
Think we all millionaire ah......
There are many millionaires in Malaysia, just that they do not want to put all eggs in one basket.

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QUOTE(Kinitos @ Sep 18 2009, 07:54 PM)
The Government should now revise the FD rate to 0.75% per annuam inline with global market rate.
Wrong thread bro !!!!

Anyway, FD rate is expected to return to previous level late next year.

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QUOTE(CrossFirE @ Sep 22 2009, 11:27 AM)
i want to ask, if i put my money to FD in one of those banks. 12 month period, meaning that i cannot take out my money for 12 months right? if i do so, they will charge me right? after 12 months, i can take my money out right?

Every bank has different T&C actually. Certain banks will pay you the interest upfront and some allow you to make partial withdrawals.

You can still take out your money anytime but there will be a penalty on your interest earned.


QUOTE(CrossFirE @ Sep 22 2009, 11:27 AM)
about unit trust, it is more risky but it's revenue is much more higher compare to FD?
Unit trust is more of a long term investment so you can get the maximum potential profit. Not the kind of thing for me though.


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