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post May 12 2009, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(SPS @ May 12 2009, 03:51 PM)
Well, I am old 'un so you have to pardon my french at times  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(SPS @ May 12 2009, 03:47 PM)
12K may be a mere pittance to you but it may be beyond the reach of others.

By quoting "end of story" in your sentence, it shows you up for the lack of maturity you display in a debate.
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When I say end of story it means I refuse to debate because it can go on until the 100th page of this thread and still no solutions, 12k is money to me too, but let's face it, if the person is very very poor 12k is a lot, to a rubbish collector it's a lot, my point is that we don't know what TS earns, but if he earns RM3-4k a month and he save money or take a small loan for bank for marriage he could do it, I am lazy to argue a lot, but to make it short and simple, for most people RM12k is a little for wedding.
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QUOTE(ravager877 @ May 11 2009, 07:52 PM)
Sigh.

Some of you know my story and about how I'm going to get married sometime mid next year. I had planned to keep things simple but it seems that suddenly things are going out of control...

As usual, all the problems of getting married have to do with MONEY. It seems interesting that there are already topics like this opened before I even posted this up. Here's the issue.

My fiancee is feeling very sad because she feels that as the bride, she should not have to pay for anything and that asking her to chip in on her own wedding is sad and degrading. Me on the other hand, cannot afford to pay for the entire ceremony for the following reasons.

1. Her mum requests a dowry of 3k+ which is cheap by most standards so I'm not complaining there.
2. Also requests 3 different Ang Pow. Its for tradition but the amount she didn't state yet.
3. Fiancee request Photo shoot worth about 2k++ (Damn expensive for photos you wont look at 6 months after your wedding) - Damn Cheap liao
4. The big whooper (Wedding dinner costing about 5k) Also cheap, can recover later
Haven't cover the the alcohol, gown rental and much much more...

All this I have to cover because my fiancee feels it is my responsibility...This is not fair, like that call her to be lou ku poh lar. It's the responsibility of both parties and depends on the earning power and cheap in accordingly.
So within the span of a year, I need to put away slightly over 10k (12 to be safe) only to watch it disappear...
And my fiancee wanna go honeymoon later as well....Call her to forget about it
Sigh...

I argued with her about this already and no solution in sight...

Damn sad...
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QUOTE(cutiepooh @ May 12 2009, 03:48 PM)
rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif wei, i do have friends drive kancil, kelisa, saga ... what's wrong??? then mean i kick my ass not to sit inside and drive my own car???? haiz.... then I lend u my camry a day. can u promise u can get a gf too with a day????? doh.gif
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do I sound like....I can't afford tat car? Yes,maybe now I can't but next few years...I might be!

even tat,borrow 1 day is too short!
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QUOTE(barista @ May 12 2009, 03:52 PM)
Old and married?  smile.gif
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Yes and my daughters are probably older than some of you young 'uns.
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QUOTE(SPS @ May 12 2009, 03:56 PM)
Yes and my daughters are probably older than some of you young 'uns.
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Wait till your daughters get married laugh.gif

Will you not want your daughter to have a nicer wedding?

Uncle... this is not the same like the time you marry your wife last time.

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How old is ur daughter?

Can be older then me meh?
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QUOTE(b3rnard7 @ May 12 2009, 03:54 PM)
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do I sound like....I can't afford tat car? Yes,maybe now I can't but next few years...I might be!

even tat,borrow 1 day is too short!
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nah, no hard feeling.. I didn't look down at u, I just want to help u... good.. so I want to see the Bernard who drives big car within 3 years. thumbup.gif wei, lend u 1 day also short ar???? later my fiance chops me ... hahahaha.. well, back to normal. Bernard what is ur ideal gal in live beside accepting ur current status???

I wish i can help u to thjnk positively.. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(barista @ May 12 2009, 03:57 PM)
Wait till your daughters get married  laugh.gif

Will you not want your daughter to have a nicer wedding?

Uncle... this is not the same like the time you marry your wife last time.
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One of my daughters is already married and no, she did not demand an extravagant wedding from my son-in-law. Just a simple reception and a buffet dinner.

Both my daughters were taught to be independent and rely on themselves as they had a good education. No child of mine believes in leeching off others.


Added on May 12, 2009, 4:04 pm
QUOTE(wufei @ May 12 2009, 03:57 PM)
How old is ur daughter?

Can be older then me meh?
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Possibly.

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QUOTE(SPS @ May 12 2009, 04:02 PM)
One of my daughters is already married and no, she did not demand an extravagant wedding from my son-in-law.  Just a simple reception and a buffet dinner.

Both my daughters were taught to be independent and rely on themselves as they had a good education.  No child of mine believes in leeching off others.
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Your son-in-law probably is doing well. I think the simple reception, buffet and honeymoon also come close to 12k.
Different people got different stories.

What do you think lets say your son-in-law posted this topic in the forum? Some more say "I need to put away slightly over 10k (12 to be safe) only to watch it disappear..."

To marry the girl you love is "priceless" ngam mou?

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QUOTE(ravager877 @ May 11 2009, 07:52 PM)
Sigh.

Some of you know my story and about how I'm going to get married sometime mid next year. I had planned to keep things simple but it seems that suddenly things are going out of control...

As usual, all the problems of getting married have to do with MONEY. It seems interesting that there are already topics like this opened before I even posted this up. Here's the issue.

My fiancee is feeling very sad because she feels that as the bride, she should not have to pay for anything and that asking her to chip in on her own wedding is sad and degrading. Me on the other hand, cannot afford to pay for the entire ceremony for the following reasons.

1. Her mum requests a dowry of 3k+ which is cheap by most standards so I'm not complaining there.
2. Also requests 3 different Ang Pow. Its for tradition but the amount she didn't state yet.
3. Fiancee request Photo shoot worth about 2k++ (Damn expensive for photos you wont look at 6 months after your wedding)
4. The big whooper (Wedding dinner costing about 5k)[SIZE=7]
Haven't cover the the alcohol, gown rental and much much more...

All this I have to cover because my fiancee feels it is my responsibility...
So within the span of a year, I need to put away slightly over 10k (12 to be safe) only to watch it disappear...
And my fiancee wanna go honeymoon later as well....
Sigh...

I argued with her about this already and no solution in sight...

Damn sad...
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How in hell u get wedding for only 5k? By my minimum estimation a table RM 500 and usually x100 (loosely based). That would be RM50k. Your wedding dinner buffet style or what?

btw, marriage for RM12k is damm cheap

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In my opinion TS has money he's being stingy. Look at his own quote:

"So within the span of a year, I need to put away slightly over 10k (12 to be safe) only to watch it disappear..."

When he said only to watch it dissapear, usually when people speak in this manner he has the money, and by speaking only to watch it dissapear means he is indirectly speaking the wedding is not worth it. That's what he really means.
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QUOTE(monashguy @ May 12 2009, 04:07 PM)
In my opinion TS has money he's being stingy. Look at his own quote:

"So within the span of a year, I need to put away slightly over 10k (12 to be safe) only to watch it disappear..."

When he said only to watch it dissapear, usually when people speak in this manner he has the money, and by speaking only to watch it dissapear means he is indirectly speaking the wedding is not worth it. That's what he really means.
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Added on May 12, 2009, 4:19 pmRather than complaint about how much money he needs to spend.
He has got a year to make some extra money if he is short of fund and he cares about the wedding and his future wife.

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QUOTE(barista @ May 12 2009, 04:06 PM)
To marry the girl you love is "priceless" ngam mou?
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Yes, and in this very thread people keep attaching prices to it.


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QUOTE(monashguy @ May 12 2009, 04:07 PM)
In my opinion TS has money he's being stingy. Look at his own quote:

"So within the span of a year, I need to put away slightly over 10k (12 to be safe) only to watch it disappear..."

When he said only to watch it dissapear, usually when people speak in this manner he has the money, and by speaking only to watch it dissapear means he is indirectly speaking the wedding is not worth it. That's what he really means.
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Thats why I said earlier, TS gf is not happy with TS. He is not saying he dun have the cash, 1 year can easily save 10k and he is not willing to.


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QUOTE(SPS @ May 12 2009, 04:02 PM)
One of my daughters is already married and no, she did not demand an extravagant wedding from my son-in-law.  Just a simple reception and a buffet dinner.
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"One of"? So the other's still single?

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QUOTE(moorish @ May 12 2009, 04:21 PM)
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Thats why I said earlier, TS gf is not happy with TS. He is not saying he dun have the cash, 1 year can easily save 10k and he is not willing to.
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Even barista and you sensed it, I have a feeling it's not the money but the fact TS is not willing to spend the money and think it is not worth it. blush.gif rolleyes.gif sweat.gif


Added on May 12, 2009, 4:31 pm
QUOTE(monashguy @ May 12 2009, 04:23 PM)
Even barista and you sensed it, I have a feeling it's not the money but the fact TS is not willing to spend the money and think it is not worth it.  blush.gif  rolleyes.gif  sweat.gif
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I digged up TS old post, I found this. Looks like his gf is not money minded at all assuming it's the same girl.

Poll: Older woman VS younger woman
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I always date older women. I'm 24 and currently dating a 30 year old. She's very nice and understanding. She listens to me but has her own opinion but still respect a man's decision. Love her very very much. Hehe. When tired she never complain when i ask her to drive and if I'm not free to fetch her she wont bit** and complain. Instead she dont mind to take public transport. She never need my money cause she got a stable job which pays well and she also know how to appreciate money so she never overspend.

In bed... Hehehe. You guys cannot imagine the things she will do and allow me to do to her. Hehehe. Seriously very very hard to find girl like her.

In short. Older women all the way. Once you taste it, you will never look at younger women ever.

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QUOTE(monashguy @ May 12 2009, 04:23 PM)
Even barista and you sensed it, I have a feeling it's not the money but the fact TS is not willing to spend the money and think it is not worth it.  blush.gif  rolleyes.gif  sweat.gif


Added on May 12, 2009, 4:31 pm

I digged up TS old post, I found this. Looks like his gf is not money minded at all assuming it's the same girl.

Poll: Older woman VS younger woman
ravager877  Posted on: Jul 7 2008, 01:04 PM
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I always date older women. I'm 24 and currently dating a 30 year old. She's very nice and understanding. She listens to me but has her own opinion but still respect a man's decision. Love her very very much. Hehe. When tired she never complain when i ask her to drive and if I'm not free to fetch her she wont bit** and complain. Instead she dont mind to take public transport. She never need my money cause she got a stable job which pays well and she also know how to appreciate money so she never overspend.

In bed... Hehehe. You guys cannot imagine the things she will do and allow me to do to her. Hehehe. Seriously very very hard to find girl like her.

In short. Older women all the way. Once you taste it, you will never look at younger women ever.
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QUOTE(barista @ May 12 2009, 04:06 PM)
Your son-in-law probably is doing well. I think the simple reception, buffet and honeymoon also come close to 12k.
Different people got different stories.

What do you think lets say your son-in-law posted this topic in the forum? Some more say "I need to put away slightly over 10k (12 to be safe) only to watch it disappear..."

To marry the girl you love is "priceless" ngam mou?
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FYI, my daughter chipped in her share of the wedding costs too.

It does not matter to me if they did not have a wedding reception and just signed registration papers - what matters most is their mutual happiness.

So you can stuff your "materialism=wedding bliss" stance up where the sun doesn't shine.


Added on May 12, 2009, 4:46 pm
QUOTE(n00b13 @ May 12 2009, 04:22 PM)
"One of"? So the other's still single?

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Yes and before you or any of the other hot-blooded young men here have any funny ideas, she's got a steady and is working abroad. laugh.gif

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TS is stingy this the prove. In his own quote "2) On a first date, this gal brought me to a restaurant and made me pay for the RM90 lunch."

Wow, first date RM 90 and he whine he payed, this is the FIRST DATE. Read me, first date!!





No Money No Honey?
ravager877 Posted on: Aug 1 2008, 10:46 AM


This is for those who are in or have been in a relationship.

Notice that I'm not asking IF money is important in a relationship cause 95% of all people here will just say its not and that there's more to love than the size of your wallet. I don't wanna know if money is important cause it usually does become an issue in today's relationships. No contest there.

The question here is how much do you spend on your gf or receive from your bf (normally guys give to gals).

Couple of situations I'm already aware of.

1) Friend bought a RM250 necklace for his GF on her bday.
2) On a first date, this gal brought me to a restaurant and made me pay for the RM90 lunch.


Added on May 12, 2009, 4:48 pm
QUOTE(moorish @ May 12 2009, 04:33 PM)
wah you part-time PI ah
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