That's right.
Don't you know you are suppose to be prepared when you want to get married?
This is only the wedding ceremony.
What about a place for you and your wife? What about children in the future?

Don't tell me you want to wait until the last minute when you have no choice then you whine and complaint here again.

I can see your fiancee is really putting up with you. Be a man, do your part. She deserves much better ok?

hmmm... you won't know until you buy the ring and ask her to marry you

unless... Maybe what you can do is to discuss about marriage seriously. Plan your finances together for marriage plans, housing, children etc. if you are pretty sure she is the person you would like to spend your life with.

At the same time you need to be tactful. There may be a possibility of you finding out she is not suitable and you've talked about marriage giving her false hopes.

I think the best works on 2 mature individual who are both financially sound and independent. They can just get married anytime because they're both ready!

Ehh... what about the number of times TS slept with the future wife?
The girl already lose some value by being with him over the years.

What is 12K? Some more want to complaint here.

This post has been edited by barista: May 12 2009, 03:01 PM

Because TS is being calculative first.
If you love your girl, you will give her the best and don't complaint.

It's just a figure of speech duh.
A girl who had devoted herself to you deserves more.

If TS tells us he is a guy who always buy her stuff, treat her to nice dinner, holidays... a reasonable girl will not mind him spending less on or chip in for a wedding.

Sometimes a girl can only be a princess once in her lifetime you know? Naturally she looks forward to it.

This post has been edited by barista: May 12 2009, 03:18 PM

Please don't make this personal k?
We don't know TS and his wife. We are merely looking at the situation as outsiders.
You cannot deny that there are people who are shallow yes? There are guys who treat girls badly too ok?

You don't know me so I don't have to defend myself

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Added on May 12, 2009, 3:33 pmThanks monashguy. You are the guy with the brain.

This post has been edited by barista: May 12 2009, 03:33 PM

I'm not saying you are wrong or what.

TS put everything down with figures, telling the whole world how much he is spending on each and everything.

A guy who is not calculative will just mention one lump sum and he can still share his dilemma this way.

Old and married?

Wait till your daughters get married

Will you not want your daughter to have a nicer wedding?

Uncle... this is not the same like the time you marry your wife last time.

This post has been edited by barista: May 12 2009, 03:58 PM

Your son-in-law probably is doing well. I think the simple reception, buffet and honeymoon also come close to 12k.
Different people got different stories.

What do you think lets say your son-in-law posted this topic in the forum? Some more say "I need to put away slightly over 10k (12 to be safe) only to watch it disappear..."

To marry the girl you love is "priceless" ngam mou?

High-five
Normally kiam siap people will react this way.

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Added on May 12, 2009, 4:19 pmRather than complaint about how much money he needs to spend.
He has got a year to make some extra money if he is short of fund and he cares about the wedding and his future wife.

This post has been edited by barista: May 12 2009, 04:20 PM

Uncle, you're understanding like my parents.

But basic necessity must have, like we have our own place to stay and can live comfortably.

what about this?

I consider myself an independent woman. My parents brought me up well and I am making my own living.

Should I settle for less by marrying a man who is less capable than me? I can stay single and have my own good life you know?

Yet, many woman like me still want to get married. I don't need a very rich husband but I want someone who is generous. Someone who is sensitive, who is able to show his care and love generously. He may not have a lot of money but he must at least put in effort and try his best.

Sometimes love is shown in gifts with a lot of thoughts put in. It is not how expensive but a man has got to put his heart and thoughts. Sad to say not a lot of man is able to do that. Not because they cannot afford anything but they do not bothered.

Is this considered materialistic? We all want to feel loved... men and women. I'm sure the guy is just as delighted and happy to receive something from the lady.

That little something can be a small gesture, considerate thought and sensitivity towards your partner's needs.

There are men who talks about women must be independent, must not leech but they still act like a China Men. OK... give pocket money, do house work, help with the kids... they think they've done everything, woman must be happy. They forgot the wife's emotional needs. So end up saying the wife is not content when she grumbles.

kakaka...

This post has been edited by barista: May 12 2009, 09:12 PM

If a woman is willing to marry someone who is not as capable as she is, do you think she is insensitive to her partner's need?
What do you think the woman need that man for? She must love him very much.

Because man normally do not want a woman who is more capable than he is.

You open poll and ask the men lah.

Maybe we will see some male leeches.

This post has been edited by barista: May 12 2009, 09:34 PM

Yes I will. He is confident, loving, caring, hardworking, sensitive, supportive, serious about his work, tries his best etc... he may not do better than me but he is better than a lot of men out there.

I don't mind as long as he does something about it. Since he had done his part earlier on, I don't mind taking over. He need not fear or worry so much coz I'm his safety net also. It works both ways.

This post has been edited by barista: May 12 2009, 09:51 PM

Like I said, you must have some qualities that your girl loves you so much. I'm sure you have your special gifts.
You are a leech if you don't know what to give her but just sucking on her.