saw their latest phase the Serena...22x75 double storey house....(by IOI group)...do u think is worth investing ?

RM525K onwards

noticed that the properties there keep increasing with every new phase !

leasehold or freehold?
the location?
but u buy 525k property for invest or self live?

bandar puteri puchong is freehold.

The price is ridiculous, 22*75 in Puchong got so many and better priced as well.

Whats so great about Serena that could possibly justify the cost other than buyers perception.

This post has been edited by aaronpang: May 1 2009, 09:20 PM

BPP price has been quite stagnant this few years as developer was already selling at RM400k few years back..

This post has been edited by eugene jk: May 1 2009, 09:21 PM

I think BPP is now over-priced. You will not see much capital appreciation since the entry cost is so high

puchong ehh..so much better place..

Half a million for dbl storey??...

Personally prefer BK instead, more peaceful

How good are they selling? Laku?

i think almost sold out for the 2 storey...now left with the 2 1/2 storey (starting from RM628K) heard starting
next week all extra RM10K

i think its a bit isolated,
good for rich people who have servants and drivers,
can just tell the drivers and servants to go buy stuff
i could be wrong,
haven't been to BPP in a while.

wow.. many rich men in puchong, terrace house selling more that 1/2 million so fast finishing, some more price increase in this economic condition

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Added on May 18, 2009, 5:45 pmHW-Racer, u got accurate info , ioi website has updated the minimum price at 538k (compared to 528k earlier)


This post has been edited by trojant: May 18 2009, 05:45 PM

effective today the 2storey type Serena...price increased to RM548K and inter 2 1/2 storey increased to RM638K

what the ...increase 20k? reason?

to create a fake impression that the property is selling like hot cakes? Seriously, half a mil for terrace house........

i still like it, the location is fantastic.

website only stated 538,800, not 548k yet.

is RM528 K to RM538K.... all the 2 storey almost sold out....now still
available for 2 1/2 storey RM628K

Wondering what is the plan in the ioi-intellicity? Will there be suddenly a few high rise building next to Serena?

Trojant (aka Trojan) ...have u book a unit of Serena ?? looks like u are in most of the forums talking
about the Serana...


If u are really interested....quickly book one....heard only left about 5 units of 2 storey serena
facing Future commercial area.... (which is still uncertain) and the 2 1/2 storey also not many
units left.... and the last phase will definetely cost more eg. 10% extra ?

I think the commercial project will be something like IOI Boulevard with al-fresno dining

This post has been edited by HW-Racer: May 21 2009, 10:43 PM

i would rather buy in USJ...24 x 75 is around 400K...BPP really overprice..

U mean USJ subsales?
Old house means another 100k to 200k for renovation, re-piping, re-cabling etc.. etc.. at the end the cost spent almost the same.
It's a matter of choise anyway.

Takkan new house no need 100k-200k for re-wiring, renovation, kitchen cabinet, kitchen extension, re-do fencing and gate

Takkan you still buy those subsale ones when you know its totally run down and still need 100k-200k to fix them

There are good subsale unit and sometimes can save on renovation, and just re use them.. i think re-paint is a must and can be cheaper than new one

This post has been edited by eugene jk: May 22 2009, 11:16 AM

I believe location is the real thing for buying landed house..

Just called up IOI to check the availability, only 1 unit left for 2 storey and less than 20 unit for 2 1/2. I'm too late

isn't that u called at the right timing? perhaps u r destined to own that unit

that unit number is 141. No good already

141 is the lot number only mar, not the house number. So, go for it!

I been to Serena showroom, i find that the living hall ceiling is abit too high to my liking. My neck were straining while looking up

u look at ur house ceiling every single second??

agreed with jayC75..
for ur info,serena DSTH already sold out..even rm548,800
now only left 2 and a half storey link house..
i think still got some leftover unit for DSTH if the purchaser unable to get the housing loan. =)

Bandar Puteri is a good location...it seems near to everywhere (sunway, PJ, subang USJ, cyberjaya, SA etc)..price high lorr..but seems everywhere also more than 450K liow at klang valley
for landed property

Yalor.. Many reputable developers are setting up a development around this area

Developers in whole Puchong area include I&P, Setia, IOI, YTL, Malton, Hillcrest, etc...

But so far only properties in Bdr Puteri and Bdr Kinrara are the highest...not only in puchong,,,
but also area...if u make a comparison of prices.... 22x75 houses in Bdr Puteri and Bdr Kinrara
are approx. RM400K onwards..

wah so fast sold off the 2 storey TH. Though not laku during this recession time, em..still got many rich pp around....

So any ideal when the last phase will be launching? probably around Oct i guess...

heard from other forums that ioi intends to build 800+ units highrise condo opposite bayu puteri.
can't get landed, non-landed also boleh la....

heard that the last phase of the landed 2 & 2.5 storey houses next to Serena will be launching
end of this year....and the pricing will be higher than Serena.... maybe now u pay
RM638800 for a 2.5 storey Serena....and next phase RM638K for 2 storey only

tat could be true... juniper 2-1/2 selling price not even enuf to buy serena 2-s
somemore tat piece is the last terrace house

mr trojant,
wat's the current selling price for juniper 2.5?

it though it will be add. RM20k more for last phase?

RM20k is peanut for ioi, you think they will be so "generous"??

i heard Vistaria residency got late bird discount now...with cash back,6 air con,++...

I like the Vistaria Residences...(if can afford RM800K ++ house) !!

i think the last phase of Bdr Puteri Puchong could be at least RM50K higher....

currently, Juniper 2.5 sty selling between RM540K to RM570K.... but I rather fork out
extra RM50K + for the new 2.5 storey Senera...given the new modern design,
spacious layout & high ceiling, the courtyard...attached bathroom for every room,
and better tiles, auto gate, alarm system compared to Juniper...

I noticed that IOI tend to offer more features and then charged higher price
with each phase...eg.
(back fully extended, auto gate, alarm system, etc...)

wondering if serena pre-installed with piping for solar system?

trojant....u book the 2 storey or 2 1/2 storey ? really hope that the last phase of the residential to be launch soon
...so that both Serena and Future launching houses can be completed almost same time...

from the scale model of bdr puteri puchong, u can see that the last phase TH, the end lots mostly facing junction, not so good, unless IOI do some changes on the layout..

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Added on June 8, 2009, 3:13 pmanybody notice that the Serena car porch is quite short and not wide enough? i drove my car inside the car porch at the 2nd unit beside show house, not much spae left for 2nd car, not to mention if u drive big car or MPV. Also no space for u to dry u shirt, unless u dry it at courtyard.

This post has been edited by JayC75: Jun 8 2009, 03:13 PM

What is pre-installed with piping for solar system ?
Is it the so called mixer ?

Different piping (i think is copper type) is needed to carry the hot water from water tank to outlet and then need to be centralized as well, normal pvc pipe cannot tahan the hot water.
If piping is not prepared to support hot water, then got to hack the wall & change the piping system.

Not sure that's correct, some one with experience can verify??

yes..hv to hack the wall and install, must cost lots of money then...

From the IOI website, the description on Serena comes with mixer. I'm wondering if the mixer is the piping?
I visited the Serena showhouse, the master bedroom comes with a rainforest shower. So wondering what is the use if we cannot install hot water?
Any expert advise?

"rainforest shower" then bath in cool water lah.. rainforest where got hot water...

Hahahaha....

call them to find out lah, easy.

www.ioiproperties.com.my

They put panel ard bandar puchong jaya called: Sutramas Condominium 1096sq.ft from Rm 199,800...i called and check,they say is sutramas shop lot...

hi everybody, i m staying at puteri 11 Olivia. trust me u wl like BPP. All phase r gated & guard around the clock ( for puteri 11 around 6 guard on every shift ) even police patrol car round here twice a day.

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Added on June 11, 2009, 4:02 pmprice wise 500k is nothing now when u r talking abt good location & quality hse finishing... BBP hv all these..Govt hospital, Private hospital,public library,indoor wet market,hypermarkets,public park,largest badminton hall and my fav is all those famous food shop is coming to BPP to open their branches...


This post has been edited by moopok: Jun 11 2009, 04:02 PM

how much u pay monthly for the security?

FREE best nia !!!

first 2 year free...IOI provide, after that need to set up RA to hired own guard. i think abt rm80 per mth is everyone is co-op..hehehehe

RM80 quite expensive, i'm paying RM35 at my Tmn Putra Prima...

Any break in case so far??

Haha. RM80 is wet wet water for people who just paid > rm 500k for a double-storey house.

where is the govt. hospital and public library??
agreed with JayC75 , most of the taman around here charged around 35-40/month for security guard. I think the most will be RM 50/mth.

This post has been edited by Cyberiq: Jun 11 2009, 08:55 PM

I think for Serana....RM50 per month is sufficient...

Upon completion of Serena and the last phase of residential at BPP....it will merge
will existing phase of Juniper + Lilac + Serana + future launch.... = <500 units of houses...

assuming only 60% of the 500 houses paying RM50 each.... u get about RM15K per month...
enought to hire about 5 to 6 Guards for 2 session (day & night) each... and noticed
that the entire phase...consist of only 2 entrance/exit points !!


(really hope that IOI could build 2 guard houses ....one at the existing Lilac + Juniper
and the other one at Serana + FUture launch)..

govt hospital is at the corner of the shoplot (alliance bank & std chartered bank) public library is at the new yellow building opposite badminton hall....abt the security charges, maybe the RA wud like to hired "Gurkha guard" like at desa parkcity...hahaha Rm80 shud be enough i hope..

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Added on June 11, 2009, 10:02 pmfellow malaysian... if u r still thinking of buying hse in BPP..do be quick, i got wind that most of the serena unit r took up by singaporean investor lar....they wl further jet up property price here.

This post has been edited by moopok: Jun 11 2009, 10:02 PM

I thought singaporean are buying lake edge ?

Yes agreed with moopok, i think the serena will go up minimum at least 25-30% and by foresee the last phase from IOI will be price like Vistaria.(700-900K).

Also, if benchmark price around Puchong prime area like Bandar Kinrara and Lake Edge, then you can imagine the price for new phase.
BK just launch a phase somewhere BK5 price around 500K for smaller unit(24 * 70 if not wrong) and it sold out in a Morning and i heard
queue up start from Monday even launch at Friday(dunno true or not - info from Malaysian investors) . Lake edge from YTL sold out (some of the failed buyer feel dissapointed cannot grab a unit -info from banker) and now new launch semi-d waterville(not sure the price) . Also, you can see Zen residency sold out in 1 week time for price at 300K.




This post has been edited by Cyberiq: Jun 12 2009, 08:15 AM

see like BPP so hot now...

i think it's panic buying now....everyone want to buy, invest not for their own stay, the hse facing mine & the one directly behind mine belong to the same oldman ( rich oldman ) ) both hse also no.19...maybe he collected him BIG FAT EPF withdrawer...

who said zen residency condo sold out in 1 wk time, not true lah.

Damn sporean, spoilt the local market...

puchong should hv at least one public swimming spool, the multi purpose hall near the indian temple i think not much use lah.

Is that the gov hospital (behind ampang yong tau foo)??? i though it's private own.

This post has been edited by JayC75: Jun 12 2009, 09:32 AM

BP should have a community centre or club house alike, to house muti sports complexs ...swimming pool tennis court, squash...things like dat....upmarket community, plenty of banks n shops n hypermarts...but lacking in this

Yes it's true. The queue started on 31st may waiting for the launching date on the 6th June. 6 days queue A new Malaysian record.

so far, havent heard of recent brekins....but was told dat past breakins in BP are usually targeted at houses without DOGS...
if u come in the evening for a walk up on BP 11 .......u can see plenty of home owners walking around with their huge dogs...rottie...german shepard...even damn pitbulls hahaha

opps..wrong info...zen residency condo selling fast..(not sure 1 week larr)...but by the time i reach
the showhouse..it left 1-3 units only.. . This make me the 1st surprise for condo 300k, then come
another atmosfera, zest and so on.

there will be another one between serena and ioi intelicity... if according to plan.

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Added on June 12, 2009, 10:34 amever heard, the richer the more kiamsiap???
anyway, apart from those buying cash, the amount of 500k loan in fact is a liability

This post has been edited by trojant: Jun 12 2009, 10:34 AM

According to plan?? The scale model at IOI office doesnt show any new terrace house plan apart from the last phase beside serena, is this something new?

i mean another entry/exit point

Wah.. with this as well , I bet BPP would be the most happening community in town

lets all BPP owner pray hard..ok, hehehe 2moro got a RA meeting at puteri 11 playground, wanna protest IOI on building a high end condo next to bayu apartment, blocking the view of puteri 11

wondering what to protest?? the condo was already in the master plan when puteri 11 was launched... and also be prepared to have another 3 block of apartments exactly within puteri 11 compound... look at the master plan again.

trojant

I was told there will be no entrance/exit point link from Intellicity....but even with the
new entry/exit point...total is only 3.... so i think is still easy to manage....given
the number of units totalling almost 500 ++ houses.... and we can hire
at least 2 guards for all the 3 entry/exit points...and add 2 more on patrol....
if monthly fee around RM50....


I think IOI should build a community hall/facility... and if they want to make money...
build a club house (like those at bkt jalil & Bdr Kinrara)...and better still build a
golf course... They can build a club house next to the existing
badminton hall....and include facilities such as tennis courts, squash, futsal,
swimming pool, driving range, gym, etc....and charge a membership fees
eg...RM150 per month....

And I also feel that IOI should contribute to build a bigger police station given the
size of the township & commercial areas.... (look at the big police station at Bdr
Puchong Jaya, Bdr kinrara, Bdr Bukit puchong...etc)

If BPP with club house than it will be good but i don't think golf course too near to residence area will be good even i agreed it looks nice.
It will consume a lot of pesticide in order to maintain the nice looking grass . This will be another EIA (environmental impact assessment ) issue.
However EIA sometimes controversial between different individual opinions.

It will be good if the club house can be located middle of BPP such as next to the existing
badminton hall or ioi-intellicity. ....plant more scenic trees along the road side like Setapak housing
area.

This post has been edited by Cyberiq: Jun 13 2009, 12:12 PM

They wanna protest because the masterplan / showmodel shows the condo is low-rise (4-5 floors), not high-rise (18-19 floors). If you visit IOI salesoffice, you will see it is low-rise (I think they might remove the model by now). So, this is consider cheating / misrepresentation of facts.

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Added on June 13, 2009, 11:12 amI think IOI has done very well for Bandar Puteri Puchong (so far). The development has been well-planned and the buyers had been well-rewarded.

How many developers can give Vacant Possession and CF on the same day of handling over keys? IOI does. This is wonderful. Usually you see developers give keys for VP without CF, and the owners had to wait a few months to get the CF. I applaud IOI for this.

How many developers build the houses at least 20-30% before they open the houses for sale? IOI does. Look at serena. When IOI launched serena, the houses were already well in-progress. Most other developers sell from 0%, ie an empty land. I also applaud IOI for this.

But things can improve. Yes, developers can get greedy. They have to maximize the profits for the shareholders. Why build low-rise when you can build high-rise on the same piece of land? But what are the long term repercussions? It is physically possible, not feasible. The road entrance will be traffic nightmare. Car accidents will occur. Landslide will occur. Living conditions will worsen. Property values will plunge. IOI reputation will plunge. Bandar Puteri reputation as a well-planned residential will collapse.

IOI please think of the long term gain, not just short term gain. Plan well and I believe the reward will be win-win for everybody.

This post has been edited by yunalesca: Jun 13 2009, 11:20 AM

really hope that IOI could improve the traffic flow at Bdr Puteri Puchong....is getting worse each day
due to the huge number of shopoffice...and commercials planned for BPP.... i think they should
be another tunner/flyover to go in & out of BPP...and also re-plan the internal roads !

Yes, agree with HW-Racer. The traffic is getting worst. Especially the traffic from Puteri 1 and 2 commercial area toward the Lebuh Puteri. And the traffic around Giant is worse now!

What I like about Bandar Puteri:

+ Freehold
Some say leasehold for 99 years is a long time. But try selling a 10 years old leasehold house and a 10 years old freehold house. The leasehold will cause 2 times the pain, what with all the land office consent, etc.

+ Ex-estate land
No mining land please. I don't want any ex-mining lake masquerading as water-lifestyle lake. It is hard enough to get the authorities to care for the roads, don't expect too much for lakes.

+ Nearby ammenities and banks
Everything is nearby, but not too near. I don't want shops opposite my house. Just be close enough.

+ Single developer for whole township
IOI is responsible for the whole township. No shift-blaming to others. When the access road at Giant is congested, IOI built the fly-over. If many developers, till today they will still be fighting over who to borne the costs.

+ IOI online complaints
As house-owners, you can submit any complaints on the road, lights, parks using IOI's website. I don't see other high-end projects (ie desa parkcity) have similar website.

Bandar Puteri is IOI's cash-cow. IOI knows it. IOI can continue to build RM 600K double-storeys, RM 2.7 million bungalows and still see the houses sold out. That's because Bandar Puteri has gained a reputation for good township and the buyers trust IOI. But IOI should not misuse this trust and look for short-term gain.

If the traffic has worsen..how they will successful with their ioi-intellicity and no award for them
in future years ahead.

yunalesca,where the website URL?? Moopok can suggest this to IOI directly..

This post has been edited by Cyberiq: Jun 16 2009, 08:21 AM

Cyberiq,

The URL is MyIOI Feedback

Strange that DPC dun have such website. Did you visit their website? I believe it has not changed since many years ago. The website is more for advertisement. Desa Park City

New Hank,

True. Desa Park City wins Bandar Puteri anytime. I been to DPC few times. I can only say RM500 maintenance fee per month can help alot in maintaining the parks, etc. But I simply cannot afford (unwilling) to pay this fee every month and RM800K above for double-storey houses. (Zenia is now selling at more than 1million)

So, Bandar Puteri is the best other alternative.

This post has been edited by yunalesca: Jun 14 2009, 10:54 AM

I don't see BPP is a good place to stay. Too commercialize and getting crowded with the booming shop. I wonder future, BPP have more shop than the house. Everything is nearby. But you still need a car to go to banking, shopping and market. I wonder is it really near. It don't have a good nice garden in housing area for family activity and jogger.
IOI shouldn't build the traffic light interchange at the ldp. It better to have direct fly down to ldp-kl/pj and further U turn to go in from usj/ldp-BPP. That would smooth up the traffic without car stopping and congested.

Yes, it is actually not near at all. Still need to drive car to reach the shop and banks (It is about 4km from Puteri 12 to the shops). But this is exactly what the owners want. They don't want to live next to the shops. The residential area should be separated from the commercial area.

There are gardens, and small parks. But of course, cannot compare to DPC parks. Have a look at the jogging area at Puteri 11

You're right about the interchange. But it is water under the bridge now....

Yes, it is what resident want. What I mean is for banking, restaurant and banking, it is best far away. But for small grocery or mini market, they want some nearby. Something like small roll of shop which have mini market, kedai runcit, laundry shop or kedai logam. You don't want everytime drive down to giant just get 1 item, incase you cook halfway. Ha..... Anyway, each housing area has it pros n cons.
For housing garden, best if one big garden surround by the section house. Everyone can walk down to the garden. A walking distance. Not to driving distance.
As for the brigde, what I heard, it never approve by the ldp. And ldp want them to torn down. But don't know how it settle.

Look at different perspective, infact DPC is even more "commercialized" than IOI. IOI build township and at least willing to spend money to actively promote their township to a busy state... of course at the end of the day they could sell more.

On the other hand, DPC's developer is just plain lucky to own the land. Look at DPC website.. none of the 9 highlighted facilities is within their own township, they don't need to spend a single cent out of their township... tat's why they afford to build large garden

This post has been edited by trojant: Jun 14 2009, 03:39 PM

Eh... What and where is DPC?

Desa Park City....is located near Bukit Maluri Kepong.... near to Sunway SPK project...and near manjalara kepong....
is a high end Gated & Guarded communicty...most of the properties there selling from Rm800K now...


if u use the LDP going towards Sri Damansara...after u pass the last LDP Toll...go straight...and make a U-turn before the
traffic lights to Sri Damansasra.... after U-turn.... keep left...the 1st junction...turn left.... and u will c Desa Park city !!!

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Added on June 14, 2009, 4:17 pm

Bdr Puteri Puchong...will be Klang Valley's best place to stay if IOI build the followings :-

1) Donate land to build a bigger Police Station...
2) Built a club houses with facilities such as gym, swimming pool, tennis courts, squash...etc
3) Another entrance/exit point to BPP + better internal road systems to ensure better traffic diversion and not
choked on the main road !
4) Built fencing + guard house for each phase
5) Plant more trees in the Taman + more play ground + bigger Central Park...

This post has been edited by HW-Racer: Jun 14 2009, 04:17 PM

I see. Never hear before this place. He... I didn't compare that far. I just check the BPP map laayout and surrounding place. Or compare with their neighbour garden.
But if compare, (just neighbour garden) pusat bandar puchong is more lucky and have a better layout I think.

Newhank:
Hehe....DPC and BPP..both had it pro an cons.

Yet DPC had it own pro and cons... but in terms of traffic i think the DPC supporters cannot give any comment to BPP
as they don't have any alternative except LDP. DPC located at the end area of the Kepong area. If from Jinjang then need
to reach Kepong Baru, Taman Maluri and Manjalara. If wanna to follow Seri Sinar way, it does not better to reach KL.
If want to follow middle ring road 2...hahaha...hmmmm....

Then only LDP is the best route and it is the best place for the businessman wanna to do their business there. Anyway, is a wonderful
place for pro PJ and Kepong people to invest and with very nice security.(another rich man place).

I would say DPC was a great place for its finishing quality and security in terms of township.

Hmm..i am not saying DPC is not a good place but it depends on individual and preference.

This post has been edited by Cyberiq: Jun 14 2009, 10:00 PM

The reason why DPC comes into the topic is bcos forumer here are comparing BPP with the most well known and high class residential area in town.
Pusat bandar puchong, arr ? errh,,, lets leave it to the others to comment.