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 Girls are money minded, And be proud of it.

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post Oct 7 2009, 08:03 PM

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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Oct 7 2009, 06:47 PM)
Wow, I hath a female on my side ohmy.gif


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dead horse needs beating
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I choose to be on hawk's side also.


QUOTE(vivienne85 @ Oct 7 2009 @ 06:52 PM)

for me, women need to be financially independent and yes,of course, it is a HUGE plus point if the bf or husband is rich.

being rich is not THE no.1 priority..it is self improvement .
Yes agree, that's what I have been always highlighting to moorish and she keeps rejecting it.
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Silverhawk is our hero like alwayz. =)
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QUOTE(POYOZER @ Oct 7 2009, 08:34 PM)
Silverhawk is our hero like alwayz. =)
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post Oct 7 2009, 08:59 PM

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where is taiga? want his opinion as well sad.gif
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QUOTE(7chai @ Oct 7 2009, 05:37 PM)
from your statement, you tell me the meaning that it is.

As for gold digger part, that is merely your assumption. Not like the words u state solidly like the 1 above.
From your statements, that's how I know about.


Well, human are born to adopt in every enviroment, and slowly improve, evolution. Is not something proud to say, but is actually a must for human being.

For WB that losses of course no feeling for him, but is proven that study, research in share market before u investing doesnt guarantee 100% profit return. But still life is a gamble  laugh.gif

Again, you keep on telling the fringe meaning here, which the entire idea I wanted to tell initially isn't here.
WB was aiming high and motivated enough to take the first initiative to invest with his own allowance. Perhaps you should think of how much his motiavation gained him the properties worth more than 60 billions today, by using not more than 10 billions as capital for his first stock investment, rather than pinpointing if investment is a gamble or not.

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QUOTE(blitzboy @ Oct 7 2009, 05:40 PM)
You are indeer very independent since a very young age.
If you have create yourself a financial back up, sufficiently ,you can quit the job and be a fulltime mother.
Your case has a few points that closely match this scenario. If you care to read.

I have already read your post.
Thanks for the compliments but I am here not to banish guys or discourage guys here.
I'm just telling a truth that if you care to work hard, be more motivated and cultivate progressive self-driven life, you will success one day.


In the above scenario man never ask woman to work. Because both are already working.
Yes. In the scenario man never asks woman to work. But make sure if woman chooses not to work, man is capable enough to take care of his family.

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QUOTE(dancingwind @ Oct 7 2009, 08:02 PM)
i also dunno  blink.gif
I think i have summarize a few hours ago, the only reason it survives cos there are silly guys who feel challenge of ego ~~ it cant even pass the judge(mod) of RWI or it would have been a topic there in long run instead of here - no king control - mou wong kon-

we just continue to watch the show then~~

@Debbie - i seriously have no interests to debate with you about those you post for me.  If you mean what you ask in ur post, u should refer back to why i wrote those in the first place, if u still cant find an answer, u may ask me in pm instead.  Eg, why i mentioned those 3 famous University names to you.
dancingwind, if you are not interested to discuss further with me, i don't think there's a need to PM you for the reason why you put the 3 univesity names to me. Anything to discuss further, I prefer discuss it here in public. I prefer to share my views and thoughts with others.  smile.gif

about 'kiddi' or other stuff and u still wonder why - I dont normal speak in such a way. HOwever i had to express my way in that manner in those posts bcos you and TS sounded too rude and forgets about the 4 important virtues of a woman should posses by our ancient ancestors.  No matter how those chauvinist men reacts, whats the fuss, enjoy your relationship with your bf and keep looking for more other better men. Try helping out other kids around and share your ideas which u posted on this thread, with them and Motivate Them but not to banish them in your way of expression.  Same to TS.  I asked in my first post today, are you showing off how lucky u are in ur current situation? cos i dont see u r doing anything good of having this thread, it is not productive at all but rather very rude and shameful.  ARe you gals planning to stop anything really?
I have forgotten the word you used "kiddi". Just let it be. As you said earlier that's actually a simple word carries no unfavourable meaning, I'm glad enough. Secondly, I don't think I'm rude, seriously. I'm talking about facts. At least I don't banish people using rude words such as "stupid", "silly" and teasing with sacarstic word choices.

if you are really trying to push up the motivations of bolehland's men, do something more constructive please.  Or even participate in RWI more often if u may. I barely see any FEMALE could survive in there cos it is a table of ego explosion, no room of any other kind.
There are things in real life that I do contribute to motivate neighbours around me. And you don't know much about me etiher. Perhaps here is just a forum and there seems no way for me to put them in words. But I can tell you honestly, before I have set myself an example, I will never make any statement of it.

Girls - im looking forward to the 10yrs appt with both of you.  Meanwhile, please stop blending ur mind into saying something that u might not be very sure about cos u might regret them one day. so, dont be the silly bump for today.
I can exactly tell you the goal I have achieved which I promised myself 10 years ago.
10 years ago, I was a noob who didn't even able to write or speak a complete English sentence.
My English level when I was in form 4 was merely a primary six' standard.
I come from chinese education background and to make sure I'm able to climb multi national corporate world and an outstanding PR, I did my very best to brush up my English.
One of the way was copied down the English and Chinese subtitles of a movie and from there learnt the English language and structure.
I don't think you will remember a stranger like me since you are not interested to read the posts I've contributed here. Hence I don't think we should make such a 10-year appointment.

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post Oct 7 2009, 09:07 PM

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This thread is getting quiet liao.
After an all day long debate.

I think whatever happens, we all have to face reality.
Being rich regardless of gender only gives you a slight advantage over the other the poor.

In reality still we are exposed to the same weather, work and stress. The poor can work hard and smart to be rich, and on the other hand if being rich but not properly manage, will also results to losing a fortune.
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QUOTE(viper88 @ Oct 7 2009, 05:12 PM)
Lol.. this show how shallow mind u have there.
Sarcastic n childish words? U cant even differentiate to who my word/sentences aiming to. shakehead.gif

A scenario example not necessary must be the same person tat have experienced it, any1 can give their view or opinion if they are given a certain scenario question.. this simple common sense also u phailed to understand or see clearly.

I really dun know how to knock some senses into ur head......  shakehead.gif

Any1 here can help educate this kiddi? laugh.gif
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Sorry viper88, I really find no points from your posts. I prefer to spend time to discuss and debate with 7chai and the rest of them.
Perhaps you may continue to respond to my posts but I will only reply when I find your post has at least a point to discuss or debate about.
Of course, thanks for your criticisms to me.

QUOTE(moorish @ Oct 7 2009, 05:31 PM)
Good choice debbie, nowadays dun trust baby sitter for our baby, and breast milk is very important. Do you know that nowadays education start from first month of babies life?

So best thing to do is we take care of baby fulltime.
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I do not want to put judgement on the baby sitters nowadays.
I just want to nurture my children when they are just born to this world. Breast-feeding and caesarean will always be my duties or dreams that I want to achieve when I become a mother.
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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Oct 7 2009, 06:23 PM)
That's commendable.
however the more you spew out, the more it seems you're talking about something else.

I did not change my view about getting a rich husband, the talking about something else if you notice are question are throw at me at different angle to be answered, but the motive remains solid and never change a tiny twitch.


We all often consciously think of things we're going to say and how people around will perceive us for what we say. These are things we realise, but if you watch your words, the sub-conscious, the things we really feel reveals itself. Try to do  examine it yourself, as sort of a self-reflection. I do it from time to time and it reveals a lot of what you truly feel/want.
Then you go and say this:

Now this is the part I find most surprising, you're imagining it up, you cant argue or debate about what you suspect was in my subconscious same as I cant say you're defending this because you;re impotent to support your family because this is what I suspect which is in your side, but these r only speculations.



If you don't think, you're not here to debate. You're just here to preach your views as if it were gospel truth. That my dear, is not a debate.

I was here to speak of my mind, and the debate started after that, I just went with it


Yes I do, and why do you think guys don't want to look for women who would divorce them due to financial issues? While I personally believe its a man's duty to provide, I also believe its a  woman's duty to support him and not be a leech. What's the point for us to marry someone if that person is likely to leave us when times are bad?

Again you;re assuming the woman will leave him when in times of trouble. This is speculation, then it can have another side what if the woman went along a poor man and when he stabilize his career he leave her for a younger woman? you're looking at it with no love involve with the woman and no integrity in the man




Moorish, to put it very simply, you're selfish. You think only about yourself, and in this debate, you've never stopped to think about the needs of others and how your "advice" would affect them.

Isnt every thing has its pros and cons? If I were to advise her to go for love, she may end up with a bum and screw her life.


A male equivalent of your advice would be to go around "spend money" on women, fool around, but don't marry them. After all, a man's prerogative is to breed with as many females as possible, just as it is your prerogative to find a successful man to support you and your children.

Now by doing this is immoral as the end point has no point in itself but a corrupted soul, my advise is to get financial security to start a family, and never about sucking the man dry.

About man breeding a much as he can is also immoral and what will happen to the children? it will effect them emotionally when they grow up



Such advice would allow him to spread his seed, keep a ready supply of fresh young women, and secure his assets from potential divorce cases. Yet, I wouldn't call such advice, good advice, would you?

Yes it is wrong, I've never preached about asking woman to go for the richest man possible and when he is broke you move on to the next rich man.



If he could, but wasn't rich, he wouldn't have had the chance in the first place.

Of coz he wouldnt, I'm again speaking for myself and my choice and my way of picking a husband.


There's nothing wrong in your aims. The problem lies when you try to turn your selfish needs into advice for other girls as well, assuming that your advice would make them happy, assuming that your advice is good for society. Newsflash girl, it isn't.


Newsflash for you, I didnt start the trend!!!
So many girls thought they could pull a marriage off with only love as thier sole motivation, so many man takes girls for granted and think they do not need to do anything on self improvement, when their parallel income cant breakeven with the household, things get ugly. And these normally ends up unfavorable especially if children are involve




So far moorish, in all your writings in defending yourself, regardless of the topic. All you talk about what YOU want, about what YOU seek in life, about what YOU want your partner to give to you, and about how well YOUR hubby is treating you. Notice that EVERYTHING is about you. You can't separate yourself from the issue, you can't be objective in your views, it seems you can't think about anyone, other than yourself. I really do hope that is not the case, but that is the impression you have put forth in this forum, not just this topic alone.

I explained about me because they question me, so I gave myself as an example, I've plenty more real frens experience I can share, infact all you need to do is look at CC how many cases of divorce or break ups due to she left me because I'm poor.



Your hubby has swept you off your feet, and kudos to him, men should know how to woo their woman wink.gif Now the question is, what qualities does your hubby have that you found attractive, or what is it about your hubby do you like that, that doesn't pertain to you?

Everything pertain to me, he is loving involve me, he is hardworking also involve me, he is understanding involve me, unless you;re refering to he likes fish which doesnt involve me, actually it does also, I need to clean up after he's done with the aquarium.

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Added on October 7, 2009, 9:56 pm
QUOTE(viper88 @ Oct 7 2009, 06:50 PM)
The way u answers disappointed me also..
Simple YES or No also cant answer properly.. laugh.gif

I don't put any gender bias on the questions, coz its target is to see what type of "animal" character u r and what is your stand on ur topic  -
Girls are money minded, and proud of it.

"animal" - coz wild and hard to know wats their reaction.. sometimes can do weird thing to get attention.
Just like asking a small girl...  her elder bro like to pee in his pant alwys.
Is it good or not good?

She will said not good la.. shame shame ma... tongue.gif
Even small girl also can give a logic good answer.  rclxms.gif

She wont said, i'm not elder bro, i dunno. ma.. Get it? hmm.gif

U know wat is relavant question or not relavant question?. 
Asking guy whisper or tampon is better? this is plain stupid question .. 

I didn't ask abt ur personal life relationship with ur hubby.. don't bother to know oso.. laugh.gif
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Does it help if I say your peeing example is plain stupid? so choose your words carefully.

peeing is about the spur of a moment, you dun have to be a boy or girl to know the answer, about marriage is a serious issue, you need to be critical, and hence I've said many many so many times, the guy seem very happy so he must be happy and you should congratulate him, but instead you had doubt about her.

and then you ask me to be him and in his shoes, if I would ditched her??? maybe she is super gorgeous in his eyes, how do I know such thing?

so how can I answer your question, I'm not a guy, this question you should post to my husband!

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Aik.. why u reply den? My post earlier was for MOORISH not for U. doh.gif Pls read properly o.

My criticism is purely for those girls tat money minded.. looking for security ($$$$) rich guy n proud when marry them.. lol.
Marry a good normal hardworking guy earning decent is a big NO, they will regret later ma...

If u feel u r in tat category than too bad la.. If not den shooh.. go play elsewhere.

QUOTE(debbieyss @ Oct 7 2009, 09:11 PM)
Sorry viper88, I really find no points from your posts. I prefer to spend time to discuss and debate with 7chai and the rest of them.
Perhaps you may continue to respond to my posts but I will only reply when I find your post has at least a point to discuss or debate about.
Of course, thanks for your criticisms to me.
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post Oct 7 2009, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(dancingwind @ Oct 7 2009, 08:02 PM)
i also dunno  blink.gif
I think i have summarize a few hours ago, the only reason it survives cos there are silly guys who feel challenge of ego ~~ it cant even pass the judge(mod) of RWI or it would have been a topic there in long run instead of here - no king control - mou wong kon-

we just continue to watch the show then~~

@Debbie - i seriously have no interests to debate with you about those you post for me.  If you mean what you ask in ur post, u should refer back to why i wrote those in the first place, if u still cant find an answer, u may ask me in pm instead.  Eg, why i mentioned those 3 famous University names to you.

about 'kiddi' or other stuff and u still wonder why - I dont normal speak in such a way. HOwever i had to express my way in that manner in those posts bcos you and TS sounded too rude and forgets about the 4 important virtues of a woman should posses by our ancient ancestors. 

How can I be rude when ppl call me a prostitute? are you even a female?


No matter how those chauvinist men reacts, whats the fuss, enjoy your relationship with your bf and keep looking for more other better men. Try helping out other kids around and share your ideas which u posted on this thread, with them and Motivate Them but not to banish them in your way of expression.  Same to TS.  I asked in my first post today, are you showing off how lucky u are in ur current situation? cos i dont see u r doing anything good of having this thread, it is not productive at all but rather very rude and shameful.  ARe you gals planning to stop anything really?

Do you know how many naive marriage takes place every year? gals get pregnant and both think its a piece of cake coz grandfather last time was selling kacang can raise a family of 10?

I'm opening up thier eyes that sustaining a family involve a lot of money, and financial issue will can easily destroy a family. You on the other hand watch too much movies and think by love itself will auto run a happy contended family.



Speaking of being a richman's wife, have you been really enjoy the money and chance yet? Cos we are not sure how many more days u can be in status.  Why dont you join some other mommy and babies forum to chat about family issues?  eg, baby-kingdom.com in HK or bubhub.com in Aussie or some few ones in UK are absolutely cool. How about flying over to HK for a yamcha by the famous Tsim Sha Tsui or Victoria Harbour with local tai-tai and then shop in LV and fly over to LA to attend dinner at the Rooftop by your private jet? These are not legends.  These are in fact today's true happening, only that we in Msia are quite far from these realities.  Flying in private jet is nothing too fancy already u know that? Only certain payments per year u can entitle to fly anywhere in the world within certain mileage at anytime u like it.  I can have it all done with my iphone.  Book ur flight online or get a printed ticket by an agency? come on, thats ancient time history, only poor ppl do that to travel on air.

If I were to show what watch I got from hubby when I gave birth to my baby, it will be a show off and nothing to do with this topic, this is not a topic about living like the rich and famous, if you phaild to understand or refuse to program it in your brain then I'm afraid this debate will be running a long long time.

Its about money = security


I try to find out your intention of this thread, other than trying to kill off the ego of men, or showing off ur lucky, i dont find anything else. enlighten me. if u r trying to teach other girls a smart lesson with your experience, sorry, no luck. those lucky girls, have to earn their men with their true effort, instead of dress up nicely and reel a rich man, only. so, ur act wont success too. well, then why?

now I'm really suspecting youre not a female, girls perception when they set a certain standard in husband is common normally this habit starts even in primary school when we;ve girls talk and we share what is our dream husband, and they dun go fishing for one, they wait for the person to woo them, girls do the choosing.


if you are really trying to push up the motivations of bolehland's men, do something more constructive please.  Or even participate in RWI more often if u may. I barely see any FEMALE could survive in there cos it is a table of ego explosion, no room of any other kind.

I'm not changing the males, I'm asking the females to better protect themselves.


Girls - im looking forward to the 10yrs appt with both of you.  Meanwhile, please stop blending ur mind into saying something that u might not be very sure about cos u might regret them one day. so, dont be the silly bump for today.

And you assume a girl who choose love will have a guaranteed future in 10 years time? please answer me this.


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QUOTE(viper88 @ Oct 7 2009, 09:56 PM)
If u feel u r in tat category than too bad la.. If not den shooh.. go play elsewhere.
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QUOTE(7chai @ Oct 7 2009, 05:45 PM)
I got no problem with both of your choice, but then, dun open a thread and make it sounds like is a must for every gal to follow. It is misleading.

People live in this world got their own choice, and of course not all girl are money minded, i believe debbie is not a money minded person, and alot of female friend i know. Thats why i think ur this thread got 1 major problem which is your title saying "Girls are money minded", is that a generalisation ? I tell u, it is.
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Human are money minded, you;re money minded, will u accept a job offer half the salary you;re drawing today?
you wont right, because you;ve commitment. does it make you evil? does it make you any less a man?

you;ve set a standard and you keep your standard because you believe you deserve more.

same as I beleive in more.


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QUOTE(blitzboy @ Oct 7 2009, 08:03 PM)
I choose to be on hawk's side also.
Yes agree, that's what I have been always highlighting to moorish and she keeps rejecting it.
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I believe you still own me a reply...are you looking down on fulltime mother?

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Which baby is cuter?

This one?
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Or this one?
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QUOTE(Dickson Poon @ Oct 7 2009, 10:19 PM)
Which baby is cuter?

This one?
user posted image

Or this one?
user posted image
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Do you need to scoop so low? I know you're not a gentlement, but attacking my baby when she is 3 months old shows how cheap you can get.

You want to be a man...debate with me.


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QUOTE(moorish @ Oct 7 2009, 10:21 PM)
Do you need to scoop so low? I know you're not a gentlement, but attacking my baby when she is 3 months old shows how cheap you can get.

You want to be a man...debate with me.

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WHAT????? doh.gif

I'm not attacking your baby!

I think she's cute!

P.S: The baby seal might be three month old too

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QUOTE(moorish @ Oct 7 2009, 10:13 PM)
Human are money minded, you;re money minded, will u accept a job offer half the salary you;re drawing today?
you wont right, because you;ve commitment. does it make you evil? does it make you any less a man?

you;ve set a standard and you keep your standard because you believe you deserve more.

same as I beleive in more.


Added on October 7, 2009, 10:17 pm

I believe you still own me a reply...are you looking down on fulltime mother?
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Have you heard about Seven Deadly Sins?

Greed (covetousness, avarice) — Greed is when somebody wants more things than the person needs or can use. Dante wrote that greed is too much "love of money and power".

Envy (invidia) — Like greed, Envy (Latin, invidia) may be characterized by an insatiable desire; they differ, however, for two main reasons. First, greed is largely associated with material goods, where as envy may apply more generally. Second, those who commit the sin of envy resent that another person has something they perceive themselves as lacking, and wish the other person to be deprived of it. Dante defined this as "love of one's own good perverted to a desire to deprive other men of theirs." In Dante's Purgatory, the punishment for the envious is to have their eyes sewn shut with wire because they have gained sinful pleasure from seeing others brought low. Aquinas described envy as "sorrow for another's good".

Pride (vanity) — In almost every list Pride (Latin, superbia), or hubris, is considered the original and most serious of the seven deadly sins, and indeed the ultimate source from which the others arise. It is identified as a desire to be more important or attractive than others, failing to acknowledge the good work of others, and excessive love of self (especially holding self out of proper position toward God). Dante's definition was "love of self perverted to hatred and contempt for one's neighbor." In Jacob Bidermann's medieval miracle play, Cenodoxus, pride is the deadliest of all the sins and leads directly to the damnation of the titulary famed Parisian doctor. In perhaps the best-known example, the story of Lucifer, pride (his desire to compete with God) was what caused his fall from Heaven, and his resultant transformation into Satan. In Dante's Divine Comedy, the penitents were forced to walk with stone slabs bearing down on their backs in order to induce feelings of humility.


source:
1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Deadly_Sins
2. http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_deadly_sins

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sad.gif im a poor man~

Noo~~~ im gonna die a virgin *_*



*off topic*

ok, continue tongue.gif
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I have been accused of attacking babies... cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif

I WILL NEVER ATTACK BABIES! mad.gif
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Moorish, dickson poon didn't mean to make fun of your baby. I can tell from his intention here.

No worries.

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QUOTE(moorish @ Oct 7 2009, 10:13 PM)
Human are money minded, you;re money minded, will u accept a job offer half the salary you;re drawing today?
you wont right, because you;ve commitment. does it make you evil? does it make you any less a man?

you;ve set a standard and you keep your standard because you believe you deserve more.

same as I beleive in more.


Added on October 7, 2009, 10:17 pm

I believe you still own me a reply...are you looking down on fulltime mother?
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I already replied to you. I never said I look down on people being fulltime mother, at all.
Don't put words on me that I never say out.

If you have worked before and create some solid financial back up, no one will stop you from being a fulltime mother.

You said it and admited yourself that your are being looked down.

No one can look down on you, unless you yourself admit it and look down on yourself.

Apparently you have made your choice. Not that I made the choice for you.



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