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Bodybuilding Bodybuilding Thread V5, Lets pump some blood into some muscles

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post Mar 11 2009, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(bagata @ Mar 10 2009, 12:25 PM)
erm... how heavy is a barbell bar? for dumbell bar its 1.75kg rite? >.<
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i saw dumbell with 2.25kg before

QUOTE(iamyuanwu @ Mar 10 2009, 01:13 PM)
Oly barbell is 20kg.

Previous few post I read also damn lawak. 5kg per side lah, 15kg per side lah, 40kg per side lah... saya pun terkonfius. =P
Why not just use the total weight, barbell (20kg) + both sides?
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got 2 types of barbell... i think one is 20 one is lighter
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post Mar 11 2009, 06:04 PM

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A standard oly bar should be 20kgs!

Not less than that!
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post Mar 11 2009, 06:37 PM

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You mean the shorter bar? (I can't remember if it's 15 or 18kg)

That's not an oly barbell, that's a retard-bar. Short and retarded... like me! X^D
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post Mar 11 2009, 06:38 PM

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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Mar 11 2009, 04:45 PM)
Many people say, breakfast is important meal of the day. Put in more protein and good fat in breakfast. Oat is mostly carb.

IF u just eat 3 times a day. Don't you feel hungry in between ? You don't get fat from eating 5-7 times a day. You get fat if overeating. 5 meals a day also help to increase your metabolism. As for weekend, i think you still need to take the protein. To repair the muscle. BTW chapati is made of what ?

As for your workout. IMO it's better to do cardio before weight training. But you will perform poor when lifting because tired from the cardio. If can, do cardio not on lifting day or on weekends.
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mostly i a agree.. but cardio should not be done immediately after of prior weight training. Cardio would drain your energy..after all, it is called weight training.. u should be able to lift the weight with 100% effort. So for me at least cardio is on off training days.
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post Mar 11 2009, 07:22 PM

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QUOTE(zorange @ Mar 11 2009, 05:20 PM)
for me id say the opposite is true, weight train half of your normal routine, then go cardio.. this is because when you weight train you use the glycogen / sugars and carbs (first line of energy source) for your body.. after you used it up, then you go for cardio, the fat burning will start straight away!

of course you have to make sure u have energy for cardio, thats why i recommend half of your workout routine..

i mightve gotten my facts wrong so correct me if im wrong yeh..
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so means go for cardio after lifting burns more fat? given i still can run after that smile.gif

QUOTE(SeLrAhC @ Mar 11 2009, 05:44 PM)
i saw dumbell with 2.25kg before
got 2 types of barbell... i think one is 20 one is lighter
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thanks dude biggrin.gif
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post Mar 11 2009, 07:27 PM

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QUOTE(myvi5949 @ Mar 11 2009, 06:38 PM)
mostly i a agree.. but cardio should not be done immediately after of prior weight training.  Cardio would drain your energy..after all, it is called weight training.. u should be able to lift the weight with 100% effort. So for me at least cardio is on off training days.
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I agree with you. I do my cardio on the days I don't weight-train.
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post Mar 11 2009, 07:46 PM

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if u weight lifting for the day, go full blast on that.
if u cardio, then go full blast.

i believe the result will be better this way. but u got to rest well too.
good diet and good rest is another key to success. =.=
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post Mar 11 2009, 08:21 PM

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If you plan to do your cardio after workout, it should be slow cardio.

There is no need to perform the explosive HIIT because the glycogen supply in your muscles are already running low so any cardio thereafter would use mostly your fat storage as an energy source.
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I always do my 30 mins cardio after weights.

Before weights, 10 mins cardio as warm up.
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post Mar 11 2009, 08:42 PM

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As for your workout. IMO it's better to do cardio before weight training. But you will perform poor when lifting because tired from the cardio. If can, do cardio not on lifting day or on weekends.
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wat is IMO..wat does it mean

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post Mar 11 2009, 08:43 PM

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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Mar 11 2009, 04:45 PM)

As for your workout. IMO it's better to do cardio before weight training. But you will perform poor when lifting because tired from the cardio. If can, do cardio not on lifting day or on weekends.
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Not so. One should try not to perform cardio even as a warm up prior to weight training because it depletes ATP. IF you want to warm up, the principle of specificity applies. Let's say chest workout, the first exercise is the bench press, warm up with the bench press, light weight. Same applies to squats, back, etc.
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post Mar 11 2009, 08:49 PM

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help help
wat is atp or imo thingey
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post Mar 11 2009, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(rascalz @ Mar 11 2009, 08:49 PM)
help help
wat is atp or imo thingey
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It's gonna take some time to explain but you'll probably forget about it. So let's just say ATP are like mana points to spend on your workouts. So save them for important work.
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post Mar 11 2009, 09:29 PM

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darklight missed out the more important explanation

IMO = in my opinion.
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post Mar 11 2009, 09:33 PM

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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Mar 11 2009, 09:02 PM)
It's gonna take some time to explain but you'll probably forget about it. So let's just say ATP are like mana points to spend on your workouts. So save them for important work.
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Good one la dude =)

There is always google as well.
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post Mar 11 2009, 11:42 PM

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atp - adenosine triphosphate is used by muscles to generate movement/lift things etc. basically once atp is used, it is regenerated by aerobically (breathing in oxygen) and anaerobically (not enuff o2 in your body and also can be enhanced by creatine)..

thats why when bb'ers take creatine it gives them more energy for bursts of power.. bb'ing mostly uses anaerobic energy as it is bursts of heavies rather than say marathon which needs long sustained energy.. thats why marathon runners have a HUGE lung capacity, to take up more oxygen..

but as darklight said, it is our mana pool to cast magical spells on enemies such as barbells and dumbbells tongue.gif

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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Mar 11 2009, 09:02 PM)
It's gonna take some time to explain but you'll probably forget about it. So let's just say ATP are like mana points to spend on your workouts. So save them for important work.
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Thats some entertaining way of explaining bb-ing terms. lol biggrin.gif
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post Mar 12 2009, 03:19 PM

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Eh, GNC has permanently reduced the prices for their products wei!
I find this a bit hilarious. After so long only they realise their products are over-priced and less & less people are buying from them.

ON Whey is 248 for non-members and 200 for members. Still not the cheapest, but at least it's not crazy.

Must be the financial crisis, and people getting sick of the insane prices. X^D
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post Mar 12 2009, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(iamyuanwu @ Mar 12 2009, 03:19 PM)
Eh, GNC has permanently reduced the prices for their products wei!
I find this a bit hilarious. After so long only they realise their products are over-priced and less & less people are buying from them.

ON Whey is 248 for non-members and 200 for members. Still not the cheapest, but at least it's not crazy.

Must be the financial crisis, and people getting sick of the insane prices. X^D
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200 for member?
i guess a lot of member will get it then coz buying from lyn is also rm200 with delivery. =.=
haha... but again, lets see how it goes. =.=
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post Mar 12 2009, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(iamyuanwu @ Mar 12 2009, 03:19 PM)
Eh, GNC has permanently reduced the prices for their products wei!
I find this a bit hilarious. After so long only they realise their products are over-priced and less & less people are buying from them.

ON Whey is 248 for non-members and 200 for members. Still not the cheapest, but at least it's not crazy.

Must be the financial crisis, and people getting sick of the insane prices. X^D
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its competitions that make them realize


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