Well, i guess he is just too caught up with numbers instead of the reaction to his body.
maybe carrying heavy weights make him feel great or even have sense of achievement.
but lets see how long can it go till his body tears apart.
i use to be like u zeist, trying to take more and more and more and more...
but i learned something from few fellow members here that, there is no point in showing off how much u can take with bad form or even risk ur body to injury.

i have to learn to leave my ego outside the gym before i walk.
without their advise, i might have gotten myself in a hell lot of pain by now coz i am trying way too fast to get my weights up, but heck... now i dont even give a damn on how much i try to lift.
instead, i learn to listen to my body and how it feels at the end of each workout.

well, as u said u can lift the 50lbs but just for few reps, then u cant handle.
then the theory is simple...maybe the weight is too much for u... u could try reducing it till u manage to get it up properly.

Intensity should be prioritized, not the weight of the bar you're lifting. I would rather be a dude with 15" arms curling 15lbs than a dude with 10" arms curling 30lbs.

I'm...improving slowly =P.

Finally going back into the TPM gym =P

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Sometimes I think you treat every thread in H & F as a chat thread.

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Added on May 2, 2009, 5:14 pmTrue. When someone who wants to get big tells me he's lifting heavy, I don't ask him how much can he lift. I ask him how many times can he lift that particular weight.

This post has been edited by darklight79: May 2 2009, 05:14 PM

Nice traps you got there man.

Lost some weight and am now down to 93kgs,i actually thought i would look better but my i lost some fat on the chest and now it kinda sticks out,really need to start doing decline presses.

Thanks bro. Wasn't flexing in that pic, just relaxed. Here're the traps when flexed:-



Anyway decline work isn't really necessary for most people but it depends. You've been doing incline work all this while or?

Been wondering, what're you guys' opinions on barbell rows and DB rows?

Good. Lol. My personal favorites are bent over barbell rows, and upright rows (dumbbell or EZ bar). Really gets teh muscles.

I meant kinda in the sense of which is supposedly better. xD 'Cause I've been reading around and all I hear of is barbell rows. I don't usually hear about DB rows.

Thats the best part bro,they look great relaxed and wicked when flexed.

I've been a lot of incline presses using smith and dumbells,the bottom part looks kind of shapeless,decline will concentrate on that part right?

Barbell rows according to Terry, bread and butter of all back exercises but only if done correctly. Most people will do them like they're executing power shrugs but you've got the form down pat, prepare to grow.

I think it's the deadlifts which contributed. I don't do much direct work for traps. But then I also only deadlift once every 2-3 months yet I'm able to add weight to the bar everytime. Maybe my traps are one of my gifted parts. If i could get my biceps to grow like them I'd be really happy but God didn't see fit to pamper us with everything I guess, But I'll be damned if I get too overconfident and start trying to progress too much. I'm trying to hit back my old max of 510lbs but I'm taking my time.

Yeah, dips and decline bench will focus on that part.

Don't the fibers all run in the same direction?


This post has been edited by mofonyx: May 3 2009, 05:07 AM

"Let's say they can do 40lbs x 10 for 4 sets. They try a 45 pounder next week for a set and get in 8 reps but they can't do 2-3 more sets with the 45's, that's not progression, that's deluding themselves."

<--- Ouch! Ter-rasa T.T ... but i guess i learn something new here. Thanks for sharing.

But that being said... how long should we stay in the 40lbs then? WHEN can we go to 45lbs?

I know what you're trying to say, that in a nutshell it's one big slab of muscle and you can't target just once part of the muscle but I'll tell you it isn't so. EMG studies have already proven so with, for examples different types of grips on barbell curls targeting either more on the inner or outer head, etc. And for this case anatomically, the chest has a sternal part and a clavicular part so different exercises would be necessary.

If we just stuck the the theory that there is no such thing as targeting a specific part of a muscle, then bodybuilders would have complete physiques by just doing endless sets of the 3 basics, which isn't so.

No prob. Like i said you'll know when you're ready for the 45's when you can do all 3 sets of 40's all at least 10 reps or more. It's not set in stone but it's a general guideline. People try to progress way too fast with dumbells and I'll tell you guys, never screw with these exercises. In some ways they're more dangerous than squats if you don't have a healthy respect for what can go wrong with stabilization issues. I'm sure you can imagine the multitude of injuries where dumbells are concerned. It can possibly be fatal if very heavy poundages are concerned.
*100lb dumbell landing on our faces* Go figure.

So, uhh, which d'you side more to? DBs or barbells?

As for me, I go purely dumbells most of the time. I'd say mix it up, but focus more on dumbells if your goal is bodybuilding.

I've given up on barbell chest press long time ago. Dumbells makes both sides more balanced, methinks.

both is important imo...the importance and its effect to certain ppl may varies...

The reason I've been wondering, is I usually use dumbbells for my worksets, and when I read up on certain exercises, all I hear of is barbells. So, yeah.

i think its better to just do a variety of exercise.
u benefit from both dont ya? so wats there to lose?