All About Harddisk Thread V2, Discussion for Good Harddisk
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 Jun 11 2010, 12:51 AM
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Jun 11 2010, 12:47 AM) my caviar black jz went dead (typically) 2 weeks ago.motherboard refuse to boot/read into it Test on the other pc 1st.. If the same problem occurs, RMA is the answer.. |
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Jun 11 2010, 12:53 AM
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QUOTE(lok3i @ Jun 11 2010, 12:51 AM) Test on the other pc 1st.. how to test when the main hdd (caviar is set as slave) took like forever to boot into windows....but when plugged out,windows boot with no problemsIf the same problem occurs, RMA is the answer.. i might sell it when i get it bck frm rma and opt for a spinpoint f3,or jz stick wif my current hdd (7200.11 500gb).dun think i need a 1tb anymore im quite disappointed....given the fact tht wd receive a lot of positive comments bout their quality,furthermore this is a caviar black. This post has been edited by ZeneticX: Jun 11 2010, 12:56 AM |
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Jun 11 2010, 01:21 AM
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Jun 11 2010, 12:53 AM) how to test when the main hdd (caviar is set as slave) took like forever to boot into windows....but when plugged out,windows boot with no problems HDD also depend on luck. Got buy 2 units WD 1TB, one Caviar Green, one Caviar Black. After 6 months, Black one DIE first i might sell it when i get it bck frm rma and opt for a spinpoint f3,or jz stick wif my current hdd (7200.11 500gb).dun think i need a 1tb anymore im quite disappointed....given the fact tht wd receive a lot of positive comments bout their quality,furthermore this is a caviar black.  And another 5 years old MAXTOR 200GB still serve me well  |
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Jun 11 2010, 01:34 AM
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QUOTE(lingloong @ Jun 11 2010, 01:21 AM) HDD also depend on luck. Got buy 2 units WD 1TB, one Caviar Green, one Caviar Black. After 6 months, Black one DIE first 6 months?tht's a bit too fast,mine at least lasted 1 yr+ And another 5 years old MAXTOR 200GB still serve me well i have a 5 -6 yrs old 80gb maxtor as well,still working althou a bit noisy hdd quality nowadays really unrealiable |
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Jun 11 2010, 02:07 AM
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Well i personally think in hardwares, lucks play an important role. Not just only hardisk, even motherboards, gpu these days don't really last as intended. My WD Black still in good condition after 1 year+ of usage.
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Jun 11 2010, 02:20 AM
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10,501 posts Joined: Oct 2009 From: Tamriel
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I always saw Western Digital HDD got RMAed instead of Seagate and Samsung.
I think Samsung having high RMA rates can be voided here. LUCK is indeed play in every hardware now a day. It's more like each brand(except cap ayam) have about the same quality already, unlike the older days that some brands are lousy. This post has been edited by DarkSilver: Jun 11 2010, 02:22 AM |
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Jun 11 2010, 02:28 AM
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QUOTE(Lacus @ Jun 11 2010, 02:07 AM) Well i personally think in hardwares, lucks play an important role. Not just only hardisk, even motherboards, gpu these days don't really last as intended. My WD Black still in good condition after 1 year+ of usage. Part of the reason for more frequent hardware failures is because they're becoming much smaller, so they have less hit points to absorb damage with before they die. And at those small sizes, cosmic radiation can have a bigger effect. a few months ago, cosmic radiation was quantified to have a larger than expected effect on RAM, making ECC RAM more valuable in the server-space. Expect to see more frequent failures as the process node and tolerances shrinks. |
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Jun 11 2010, 03:50 AM
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i just bought 1.5tb external hdd,wd mybook essential...i feel nice got smartware preinstalled..
convenient for backup data |
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Jun 11 2010, 11:25 AM
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Hey,
Will 2 sataII harddisk's running at raid mode on a sataI raid controller get bottlenecked? Need some advice here. Thanks |
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Jun 11 2010, 11:33 AM
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QUOTE(DarkSilver @ Jun 11 2010, 02:20 AM) I always saw Western Digital HDD got RMAed instead of Seagate and Samsung. WD sells more, so it is norm to see more of its HDD being RMAed.I think Samsung having high RMA rates can be voided here. LUCK is indeed play in every hardware now a day. It's more like each brand(except cap ayam) have about the same quality already, unlike the older days that some brands are lousy. It is about rate of RMAed, not quantity. For eg. XYZ sold 10 million HDD, so you could see 10000 HDD being RMAed, which look huge amount but the rate is 0.1% only ABC sold 10k HDD, but you see 20 HDD being RMAed, which look negligible (so little HDD being RMAed), but the rate is higher at 0.2%. So in term of quality wise, we said XYZ is better on average. |
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Jun 11 2010, 02:40 PM
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QUOTE(ReaperOfSoul @ Jun 11 2010, 11:25 AM) Hey, Anyone?Will 2 sataII harddisk's running at raid mode on a sataI raid controller get bottlenecked? Need some advice here. Thanks |
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Jun 11 2010, 05:32 PM
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QUOTE(ReaperOfSoul @ Jun 11 2010, 11:25 AM) Hey, Depends on a number of factors. Like what models are the HDDs, what are you using them for, what specific applications?Will 2 sataII harddisk's running at raid mode on a sataI raid controller get bottlenecked? Need some advice here. Thanks SATA 1.5 Gbps (aka SATA I), has a maximum theoretical transfer rate of 150 MB/s. The older WD Caviar Black 1 TB has an average read/write of 85 MB/s. Newer HDDs can hit 110 MB/s while older ones might be lucky to hit 75 MB/s. If you just want performance, save up for a decent SSD and make sure your motherboard supports SATA 3.0 Gbps (aka SATA II) or SATA 6.0 Gbps. A single good SSD can outperform more than four regular HDDs in RAID-0 configuration, or more than 60 HDDs in worst case scenarios. This post has been edited by everling: Jun 11 2010, 05:33 PM |
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Jun 11 2010, 05:39 PM
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Hmm..thought that going for RAID option might be more worth it cuz more space
 Anyway, i will wait for a month and see whether SSD price will drop. It seems to be dropping now... |
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Jun 11 2010, 06:12 PM
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Intel is planning a 50% price drop in SSD prices in Q4. Actually, they're planning to double capacity for the same price.
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Jun 11 2010, 06:20 PM
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Really great news that is... cos the SSD drives price haven't gone down much since they first released.
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Jun 11 2010, 06:30 PM
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Wow ..thats great news
 Have to wait till Q4 then |
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Jun 11 2010, 06:32 PM
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They're a lot more expensive and harder to manufacture than HDDs. Know all those 65m, 45nm, 32nm CPUs? Intel is using 25nm for the upcoming SSDs.
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Jun 11 2010, 08:11 PM
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Good news , i will wait for it . 25nm ? speed more faster ?
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Jun 11 2010, 09:05 PM
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QUOTE(everling @ Jun 11 2010, 06:12 PM) Intel is planning a 50% price drop in SSD prices in Q4. Actually, they're planning to double capacity for the same price. This is not something good news.I would rather they half the price with the same capacity instead double the capacity for the same price. 30-50G is sufficient as an OS main drive. What hinder people to use SSD as main drive is the cost, too way expensive. If slash price into half, then we could see lot of people start to install SSD as the main operating system drive. |
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Jun 11 2010, 09:10 PM
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QUOTE(DarkSilver @ Jun 11 2010, 02:20 AM) I always saw Western Digital HDD got RMAed instead of Seagate and Samsung. Actually..I think Samsung having high RMA rates can be voided here. LUCK is indeed play in every hardware now a day. It's more like each brand(except cap ayam) have about the same quality already, unlike the older days that some brands are lousy. http://translate.google.com/translate?u=ht...en&hl=&ie=UTF-8 QUOTE The DiamondMax 22 7200.11 and continue on this period to seal the results of Seagate and Maxtor because of firmware bug time. Now the failure rate of 1TB drives: - Maxtor DiamondMax 22 : 8,9% - Maxtor DiamondMax 22: 8.9% - Seagate Barracuda LP : 2,3% - Seagate Barracuda LP: 2.3% - Samsung SpinPoint F1 : 2,2% - Samsung SpinPoint F1: 2.2% - Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 : 2% - Seagate Barracuda 7200.11: 2% - Maxtor DiamondMax 23 : 1,9% - Maxtor DiamondMax 23: 1.9% - Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 : 1,8% - Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1.8% - Hitachi Deskstar 7K1000.B : 1,2% - Hitachi Deskstar 7K1000.B: 1.2% - Western Digital Caviar Green WD10EADS : 0,7% - Western Digital Caviar Green WD10EADS: 0.7% - Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS : 0,7% - Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS: 0.7% |
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