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post Jun 10 2010, 12:23 AM

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Background processes causing interrupts? Try exiting every other program you can.


Added on June 10, 2010, 12:28 amThe reallocated sector count, while a bit troubling, is a normal part of the hard disk's 'self-healing' process. HDDs normally do not allocated every single sector to the user's space, but keep a small reserve of sectors that it can then use to replace sectors that has gone 'bad'. As long it doesn't change for days or weeks, it may mean that it 'healed' itself successfully.

I don't know if you can RMA on that alone.

Not sure about the other problem.

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post Jun 10 2010, 12:36 AM

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post Jun 10 2010, 10:05 AM

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It's possible to RMA your 1TB Samsung, yuktsi14.

If you want to avoid the hassle of RMA, here's what I suggest.

To double confirm, back up your data and run Samsung's ESTool. Run drive diagnostic, low level format, install a fresh copy of your OS and monitor the number of reallocated sector count to reconfirm your HDD's health. If the count of reallocated sectors returns and increases within a short period of time, it simply means your HDD is replacing weak/bad sectors faster than it should. RMA it in this case. I've successfully RMA'ed my 500GB F3 Samsung that wouldn't stop giving me current pending sector count errors.

You can skip diagnosing (low level format, reinstall OS etc) your HDD altogether and RMA your drive immediately if ESTool's diagnostic function returns any error.
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post Jun 10 2010, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(Cyclonechuah @ Jun 9 2010, 10:42 PM)
speedwise i think samsung spinpoint still wins over caviar black, Caviar black new version only has 64mb cache, and new choices of 3.0 gbps sata or 6.0 gbps.
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But samsung spinpoint have more problem than WD Black caviar , so many ppl RMA their hdd
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post Jun 10 2010, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(limhongwoon @ Jun 10 2010, 12:38 PM)
But samsung spinpoint have more problem than WD Black caviar , so many ppl RMA their hdd
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where u get the source?
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post Jun 10 2010, 01:09 PM

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QUOTE(8tvt @ Jun 10 2010, 02:01 PM)
where u get the source?
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I saw quite a lot forumer RMA their Samsung F3
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post Jun 10 2010, 02:07 PM

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Do you have evidence to proof Samsung F3 series has issue and a lot of people RMA it?
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post Jun 10 2010, 02:15 PM

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Here : http://forums.hexus.net/hexus-hardware/186...outhbridge.html
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post Jun 10 2010, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(limhongwoon @ Jun 10 2010, 02:15 PM)
that's now showing anything to RMA just more to updating the firmware..
or is it becoz they mishandling the update process?
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firmware problem with SB850 chipset. Solution firmware out within 1month... hmm.gif But it wont give me any trouble wakakaka rclxms.gif
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post Jun 10 2010, 06:46 PM

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did u use F3 with sb850?
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Is the problem of Samsung Spinpoint F3 with SB850 only occurs if we update the firmware of the Samsung Spinpoint F3?

By the way, the links show that it's not Samsung Spinpoint F3 having high RMA rates. doh.gif doh.gif
It's like Samsung Spinpoint F3(with newest firmware) have incompatibility problem over AMD SB850 Chipset only.

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QUOTE(8tvt @ Jun 10 2010, 06:46 PM)
did u use F3 with sb850?
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Me? no.. Still use old G.Gbite board. Well it will no give any problem for other chipset right?
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QUOTE(Onion-KiD @ Jun 10 2010, 07:02 PM)
Me? no.. Still use old G.Gbite board. Well it will no give any problem for other chipset right?
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If not mistaken, that problem is for AMD Chipset(SB850) only. Intel Chipset shouldn't be affected.
If you didn't play with the firmware(update it), you also won't have this problem. laugh.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Onion-KiD @ Jun 10 2010, 07:02 PM)
Me? no.. Still use old G.Gbite board. Well it will no give any problem for other chipset right?
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if no sure not related one..

but not for all F3.. just that if got prob like cannot boot or noise during boot..
should consider to update the firmware..
affected on sb850 hdd controller mostly sata 3 amd mobo..
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QUOTE(8tvt @ Jun 10 2010, 07:12 PM)
if no sure not related one..

but not for all F3.. just that if got prob like cannot boot or noise during boot..
should consider to update the firmware..
affected on sb850 hdd controller mostly sata 3 amd mobo..
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Thanks for the information. Now, I have a clearer image already.

And this issue shouldn't be bothered at all if you're using Intel Platform. tongue.gif nod.gif
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QUOTE(DarkSilver @ Jun 10 2010, 07:50 PM)
Is the problem of Samsung Spinpoint F3 with SB850 only occurs if we update the firmware of the Samsung Spinpoint F3?

By the way, the links show that it's not Samsung Spinpoint F3 having high RMA rates.  doh.gif  doh.gif
It's like Samsung Spinpoint F3(with newest firmware) have incompatibility problem over AMD SB850 Chipset only.
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ok , if like that . I going to get Samsung F3 1TB but too bad the warranty is 3 years
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[color=red] Some people just tend to come to conclusion without evidence. thats does not even show that F3 series has high rma rate and it's not like what you mention (Lots of FORUMERS which suppose to mean lyn forumers biggrin.gif)
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I believe it is not a big issue. But troublesome for user which is related. Hope everything will going fine. Good for everyone rclxms.gif

Btw found one of our friend having similar issue: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1453371

I didn't reply due to can't confirm the trouble. icon_question.gif icon_question.gif Him
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my caviar black jz went dead (typically) 2 weeks ago.motherboard refuse to boot/read into it

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