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aspire2oo6
post Mar 20 2009, 01:20 PM

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Network integrated also 5 sec long to gps u use can charge up to RM5 if u lucky

Bluetooth need external gps device

Intregrated Free but cold start can take sometimes 15mins to lock

A-gps the fastest 5 sec
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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Mar 20 2009, 01:17 PM)
There 3 method of locking to GPS

Cold Start , Warm Start and A-gps ? Which u are talking?
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Not sure what you mean by cold/warm start, on device or GMXT or ?

What I do is, switch on phone, stand in the middle of the field, clear sky, no clouds, no trees, no building block.

Set either with/without A-GPS (test two times)
Run GMXT, sometimes it doesn't lock even in 5 minutes.
So, what I do is, exit GMXT.
Then run Nokia Maps.
Before Nokia Maps lock, I run GMXT again.
Then wait. Normally within <1 minute, Nokia Maps will lock and immediately GMXT will lock also.
Then I close Nokia Maps, and navigate with GMXT

I tried both in N82 (with integrated GPS) with A-GPS and without A-GPS. Both same results.

My conclusion: Intermittently, GMXT cannot lock onto satellites by itself even >5 min with my device, but once run Nokia Maps, it is like Assisted-GPS-Software to boost locking.


Added on March 20, 2009, 2:09 pmJust to add:
1) If Nokia Maps can lock, GMXT sure can lock
2) If Nokia Maps cannot lock, GMXT sure cannot lock no matter wait how long
3) If GMXT can lock, Nokia Map can lock ? -> Never happen before, always Nokia Maps lock first laugh.gif
4) If GMXT cannot lock, Nokia Map = ? -> Never happen before also.


This post has been edited by cute_boboi: Mar 20 2009, 02:09 PM
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post Mar 20 2009, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Mar 20 2009, 02:07 PM)
Not sure what you mean by cold/warm start, on device or GMXT or ?

What I do is, switch on phone, stand in the middle of the field, clear sky, no clouds, no trees, no building block.

Set either with/without A-GPS (test two times)
Run GMXT, sometimes it doesn't lock even in 5 minutes.
So, what I do is, exit GMXT.
Then run Nokia Maps.
Before Nokia Maps lock, I run GMXT again.
Then wait. Normally within <1 minute, Nokia Maps will lock and immediately GMXT will lock also.
Then I close Nokia Maps, and navigate with GMXT

I tried both in N82 (with integrated GPS) with A-GPS and without A-GPS. Both same results.

My conclusion: Intermittently, GMXT cannot lock onto satellites by itself even >5 min with my device, but once run Nokia Maps, it is like Assisted-GPS-Software to boost locking.


Added on March 20, 2009, 2:09 pmJust to add:
1) If Nokia Maps can lock, GMXT sure can lock
2) If Nokia Maps cannot lock, GMXT sure cannot lock no matter wait how long
3) If GMXT can lock, Nokia Map can lock ? -> Never happen before, always Nokia Maps lock first  laugh.gif
4) If GMXT cannot lock, Nokia Map = ? -> Never happen before also.
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i dunno what you are talking about. Because i uninstall my nokia maps already

Cold start u open the GPS window u see no satelitte

Warm start is u connected to GPS before same day or previous day. It already have the GPS location of yesterday. So it can connect faster compare to COLD because it need to slowly find.


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post Mar 20 2009, 06:38 PM

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@aspire - UNL files are NOT part of gmxt. kindly remove from yur 5800 thread. if one needs to use gmxt, one should just purchase the original, whereby the 1gb microsd card will be given together in a box with instructions. the microsd card itself hold the "key" to ONLY the version purchased.
any upgrades for versions require a re-purchase.

Original GMXT is sold via garmin's website @ USD 99.99

http://www8.garmin.com/mobile/mobilext/index.jsp



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post Mar 20 2009, 06:52 PM

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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Mar 20 2009, 05:20 PM)
i dunno what you are talking about. Because i uninstall my nokia maps already

Cold start u open the GPS window u see no satelitte

Warm start is u connected to GPS before same day or previous day. It already have the GPS location of yesterday. So it can connect faster compare to COLD because it need to slowly find.
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If yesterday, I am at Location A: SS2 (GPS locked and connected) and close GMXT there.

Today. when I open GMXT at Location B: KLCC, the map still show me in SS2. Have to wait until it locked the satellites again, then it jump to KLCC. -> I only use it this way all the time. This is where the problem happen that GMXT sometimes cannot lock satellites no matter which Location A, B, C, etc.

Is this consider cold/warm ?

Note: No shutdown/reboot device in between. Just Exit/Close GMXT only and confirm not running in background.
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post Mar 20 2009, 07:32 PM

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QUOTE(AhNong @ Mar 20 2009, 06:38 PM)
@aspire - UNL files are NOT part of gmxt. kindly remove from yur 5800 thread. if one needs to use gmxt, one should just purchase the original, whereby the 1gb microsd card will be given together in a box with instructions. the microsd card itself hold the "key" to ONLY the version purchased.
any upgrades for versions require a re-purchase.

Original GMXT is sold via garmin's website @ USD 99.99

http://www8.garmin.com/mobile/mobilext/index.jsp
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sw.unl file is for cracked version la i think.... hmm.gif
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post Mar 20 2009, 08:07 PM

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QUOTE(qwe65 @ Mar 20 2009, 07:32 PM)
sw.unl file is for cracked version la i think.... hmm.gif
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lets not make a federal case of this. he is a reliable source of information so just wait for him to do some minor editing and it will all be ok.


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well even if i give u my SW.UNL file its not going to work.

Example, I got this Garmin with SW.UNL in this 2GB memory card. So I transfer the SW.UNL along with my Garmin software to another memory card where I am going to use it with the SAME phone and it wont work. If you plug 2GB memory card to another phone then the Garmin will work like original although different phone.

SW.UNL is locked to MEMORY CARD but not PHONE
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QUOTE(chicaman @ Mar 20 2009, 09:05 PM)
well even if i give u my SW.UNL file its not going to work.

Example, I got this Garmin with SW.UNL in this 2GB memory card. So I transfer the SW.UNL along with my Garmin software to another memory card where I am going to use it with the SAME phone and it wont work. If you plug 2GB memory card to another phone then the Garmin will work like original although different phone.

SW.UNL is locked to MEMORY CARD but not PHONE
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Wrong also tongue.gif E.g. I got this SW.UNL in my 2GB memory card. Then I upgrade to 8GB, and do a copy all (including system and hidden) using my PC. I plug the 8GB into the same N82 and it works. smile.gif
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post Mar 20 2009, 10:43 PM

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QUOTE(AhNong @ Mar 20 2009, 06:38 PM)
@aspire - UNL files are NOT part of gmxt. kindly remove from yur 5800 thread. if one needs to use gmxt, one should just purchase the original, whereby the 1gb microsd card will be given together in a box with instructions. the microsd card itself hold the "key" to ONLY the version purchased.
any upgrades for versions require a re-purchase.

Original GMXT is sold via garmin's website @ USD 99.99

http://www8.garmin.com/mobile/mobilext/index.jsp
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so lets my gps crash or memory card spoil i need repurchase garmin? Be logical la uncle. Even u upgrade you can use the same key back because U BOUGHT IT. So one person cant backup the key incase the memory card malfunction? Talk logic thank you.
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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Mar 20 2009, 09:19 PM)
Wrong also  tongue.gif  E.g. I got this SW.UNL in my 2GB memory card. Then I upgrade to 8GB, and do a copy all (including system and hidden) using my PC. I plug the 8GB into the same N82 and it works.  smile.gif
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i tested it myself and it is not working on my side when i copy to my 8GB card~

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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Mar 20 2009, 10:43 PM)
so lets my gps crash or memory card spoil i need  repurchase garmin? Be logical la uncle. Even u upgrade you can use the same key back because U BOUGHT IT.  So one person cant backup the key incase the memory card malfunction? Talk logic thank you.
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understand this, i am not in here to create an argument with you. i am nobody to tell anybody in here what they can or cannot do.

but if something like this exist :

Action: Discussion, distribution or posting links to pirated software, pornography or any kind of copyrighted materials.
Result: Offending post will be deleted and user will be warned. Repeat offenders will get a temporary suspension to their account.

and i see my friends committing it, i'd like them to know about it.

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=boardrules

so i'm not gonna say this again. we can chat about all this in some other forum or through whatever channels there are. just not in here. bottomline, it is disallowed PERIOD !


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post Mar 21 2009, 12:15 AM

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Only u are discussing about warez not me. Then u blame me because u discuss on warez? What u wan me to do ? Like u said if u wanna discuss about warez take it else where. Dont create a blame then get other ppl in trouble. Good luck to u in your warez world.

Sorry if your english is bad please refer that thread u saw its stated please contact garmin authorize dealer. Let rephrase if u want to share warez take it else where thank you.

This post has been edited by aspire2oo6: Mar 21 2009, 12:18 AM
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ok you win. you are the man. yes u can blame it on me and its my fault and i'm the one talking about warez although i have no idea where i discussed that. please hit the report button on me. no need give face yah.

btw 5.00.40 is out for symbian60. available at garmin's website.
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post Mar 21 2009, 12:21 AM

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Scroll up u start talking about warez not me. If u think that thread have problem please report it dont accuse.

And 5.00.40 is out since yesterday its old news. Thanks for sharing
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That's enough. Everyone. To clear all your doubts about what a UNL file is

http://www8.garmin.com/support/faqs/faq.jsp?faq=265

Q. What is an Unlock File (a .unl file)?
A. An Unlock File is a back up system.

Once you have installed your unlock code(s), you can save them into an unlock file. To do this, follow these step-by-step instructions:

1. Open MapSource.
2. Open the Unlock Wizard (either with CTRL + U or under "Utilities/Unlock Maps"). Click "Next".
3. Under the section that states "If you are an existing Garmin customer", choose "Backup my unlock codes to a file". Click "Next".
4. Save this file to a separate location where you can find it later (for example, "My Documents").

In the event you have to uninstall MapSource and have a locked MapSource product, you can retrieve any unlock codes by reinstalling MapSource and opening this file.

To reinstall your unlock codes using MapSource, follow these step-by-step instructions:

1. Open MapSource.
2. Open the Unlock Wizard (either with CTRL + U or under "Utilities/Unlock Maps"). Click "Next".
3. Under the section that states "If you are an existing Garmin customer", choose "Retrieve and reinstall all my unlock codes". Click "Next".
4. Choose "Retrieve my unlock codes from a file on my PC". Click "Next".
5. Point your computer to where you saved the .unl file previously. Choose it and follow the prompts.



Now that we've cleared that up, any further discussion on HACKING the unl file for piracy purposes shall be dealt with accordingly.

I do however, thank the vigilant members who tried to do the right thing. Its just a misunderstanding, and i hope everyone can kiss and make up shake hands and continue to help the GPS logging community grow.


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QUOTE(chicaman @ Mar 20 2009, 11:21 PM)
i tested it myself and it is not working on my side when i copy to my 8GB card~
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When I upgraded to a 8GB card, I simply copy everything from the 2GB card to the 8GB card.
All applications work perfectly. Panoman, Dictionary, Garmin etc working good.
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QUOTE(cucubud @ Mar 21 2009, 08:09 AM)
When I upgraded to a 8GB card, I simply copy everything from the 2GB card to the 8GB card.
All applications work perfectly.  Panoman, Dictionary, Garmin etc working good.
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i did the same thing. Here for you to know install garmin using installer then copy the old garmin folder and overwrite it in the new location in your memory card. Walla all will work.

Reason yours doesnt work because in the hidden folder TSautorun,exe and a few more files u didnt copy. They are crucial files garmin needs
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I set my access point to Maxis WAP 2.0(from settings> General > positioning > acess point), does it cost me some $$?

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post Mar 22 2009, 01:51 AM

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hello guys.

i'm just buying the new HTC Touch 3G..so..can i install the Garmin Version for GPS?Is there need to install another one?or else?
actually, the HTC T3G already have the QuickGPS, is that enough?and i've also install the Google Maps..
somebdy, hlp me plis....

can i use T3G as a modem when i connect it with my PC?
if can, what type for the softwre i need to install?



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