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mikapoh
post Oct 28 2008, 09:50 PM

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Hey one question for u tv technicians out there.

Today, I was told by one of the audio visual specialist here that the Panny Plasma does not upscale by itself. It only upconvert the astro signal. He suggested to go via Onkyo AVR 606 to really upscale to 1080p and the picture on tv will looks much better...............? Puzzle.....ture? I dont believe him. Better trust the sifus here to convince.


Added on October 28, 2008, 9:56 pm
QUOTE(Jediknight8820 @ Oct 28 2008, 09:48 PM)
did u fixed to the wall or on the tv cabinet. how much do they sell the wall bracket - 42' plasma, found some at HN so expensive. sad.gif
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I requested to mount it on the wall. I bought the original Panny's wall bracket coz it comes with warranty drool.gif If in the event the bracket breaks and caused tv to drop, then they will compensate u the tv price. There are ahem brackets but no insurance covered so I dont even bother eventhough it costs lesser.

I think the original plus installation cost about RM300. Worth it lah as they neatly and safely put the heavy tv up. Dont even think one person can handle all these jobs. Anyway, after mounting, it looks neat and maximise space.





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post Oct 28 2008, 10:01 PM

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QUOTE(mikapoh @ Oct 28 2008, 09:50 PM)
Hey one question for u tv technicians out there.

Today, I was told by one of the audio visual specialist here that the Panny Plasma does not upscale by itself. It only upconvert the astro signal. He suggested to go via Onkyo AVR 606 to really upscale to 1080p and the picture on tv will looks much better...............? Puzzle.....ture? I dont believe him. Better trust the sifus here to convince.


Added on October 28, 2008, 9:56 pm
I requested to mount it on the wall. I bought the original Panny's wall bracket coz it comes with warranty  drool.gif  If in the event the bracket breaks and caused tv to drop, then they will compensate u the tv price. There are ahem brackets but no insurance covered so I dont even bother eventhough it costs lesser.

I think the original plus installation cost about RM300. Worth it lah as they neatly and safely put the heavy tv up. Dont even think one person can handle all these jobs. Anyway, after mounting, it looks neat and maximise space.
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thks for the advice, how high is the panny from the floor? is this depends on the siiting distance or the height of the sofa. rclxub.gif
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post Oct 28 2008, 10:02 PM

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I use my Satria to carry my 42 Plasma home and install everything myself flex.gif

just can't wait for the delivery drool.gif

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post Oct 28 2008, 10:05 PM

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QUOTE(Bionic @ Oct 28 2008, 10:02 PM)
I use my Satria to carry my 42 Plasma home and install everything myself flex.gif

just can't  wait for the delivery  drool.gif
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how did u fit it into the car?
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post Oct 28 2008, 10:07 PM

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hi all, with the global financial situation right now, do you think that goods prices will fall soon ? especially the one on my hunting list ? ( PV80) wink.gif
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post Oct 28 2008, 10:10 PM

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QUOTE(king_eric @ Oct 28 2008, 10:07 PM)
hi all, with the global financial situation right now, do you think that goods prices will fall soon ? especially the one on my hunting list ? ( PV80) wink.gif
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but i tot rm is getting weaker? so imported goods should cost more?


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post Oct 28 2008, 10:27 PM

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QUOTE(Jediknight8820 @ Oct 28 2008, 10:01 PM)
thks for the advice, how high is the panny from the floor? is this depends on the siiting distance or the height of the sofa.  rclxub.gif
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I mount it a slight higher than our eyes level. I found it mounting too high will have strains on our neck. haha, again personal preference. The stupid thing is the salesman acts like a pro by adjusting my tv setting contrast to 75 at least and set color temp to cool. Luckily all the sifus here recommend to set lower and close to neutral or else my tv will KONG in couple of years to come.....phew.





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post Oct 28 2008, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(atah @ Oct 28 2008, 11:10 PM)
but i tot rm is getting weaker? so imported goods should cost more?
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http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/10/25/t...falling-faster/

i dunno how true is this la but maybe someone can shed some light on this..

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post Oct 28 2008, 10:44 PM

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ya, hope that we can get that price here as well...

even in sg, pv80 only cost sgd1k++, with free vouchers somemore...

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post Oct 28 2008, 11:03 PM

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Oh BTW.Can i bother the sifu here to inform the suitable picture settings adjustment for my Panny LCD TV. Thanks!!!
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post Oct 28 2008, 11:57 PM

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QUOTE(elwwmatrix @ Oct 28 2008, 05:50 PM)
I'm telling you AGAIN, my laptop doesn't have DVI or HDMI. cry.gif My laptop is not same as yours ,very lauyah one. tongue.gif Only Dell inspiron 1520.Lucky you got an iBook. My laptop just just VGA out and S video Out.
I know the s-video not so good but what i can i do. I'm searching for the VGA cable at the moment, so i'm using the s-video cable.
Still no hope for DVI to Hdmi. Huhuhu
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an alternative is to check out the docking station
many docking stations have DVI out
so if the price is right, it can be a good solution
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post Oct 29 2008, 12:10 AM

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QUOTE(atah @ Oct 28 2008, 10:44 PM)
ya, hope that we can get that price here as well...

even in sg, pv80 only cost sgd1k++, with free vouchers somemore...
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I am inclined to believe competition and economies of scale will be a stronger factor than currency that determine the falling prices of plasma or LCD TVs. And in Malaysia, consumers can enjoy better bargains for mainstream models, especially 32 to 42-inch flat screen TVs.

When the market becomes more mature perhaps in a year or two, I believe consumers will get better "free" gifts like shopping or petrol vouchers, thanks to market forces and not DVD players or digital cameras. Afterall, which home (in Malaysia) has no DVD player.

What comes next after affordable flat panel TVs obviously will be blu-ray players. Meanwhile, we watch from the sidelines with "frustration" our US counterparts paying sub-US$300 players while we still have to pay a bomb to enjoy HD content.

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post Oct 29 2008, 12:26 AM

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i dunno whether its right to post here, but need some expert opinion on this.


i am having some problem with my Samsung 32" LCD TV, LA32R81B connected to my PC via VGA cable.
I'm using 1360 x 768 resolution.
Whenever I tried to play games, or even try to run 3Dmark06, my screen will turns to blue screen with error "Mode not supported". (3D mark is running under 1280 x 1024 resolution)
Only after i pressed ESC, it will goes back to the desktop.

This even happens when i switch the resolution to a higher or even lower then 1360 x 768.
Can anybody check if this LCD only supports ONE resolution ONLY??
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post Oct 29 2008, 10:11 AM

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In Penang Queens Bay Mall, PV80 is going for RM4299 only whreas PV8 is RM3999. Not sure KL follow suit only, haven't check yet.
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post Oct 29 2008, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(mikapoh @ Oct 28 2008, 09:50 PM)
Hey one question for u tv technicians out there.

Today, I was told by one of the audio visual specialist here that the Panny Plasma does not upscale by itself. It only upconvert the astro signal. He suggested to go via Onkyo AVR 606 to really upscale to 1080p and the picture on tv will looks much better...............? Puzzle.....ture? I dont believe him. Better trust the sifus here to convince.
That's nonsense from that "specialist". ALL HDTVs upscale or they won't be able to fill the whole 720p/1080p panel with a 576i SD source. It's the quality of the upscaling that sets the various TVs and manufacturers apart. An external upscaler MAY be better than the internal one in your TV, but the only way to be sure is to actually test and compare BEFORE you buy it. In many cases, a good 480p component DVD is better than a cheap 1080p HDMI DVD. Your eyes are the only opinion you should trust. smile.gif


Added on October 29, 2008, 10:48 am
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Oh BTW.Can i bother the sifu here to inform the suitable picture settings adjustment for my Panny LCD TV. Thanks!!!
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Whatever looks good to you. Seriously. There is NO single setting that will please everyone so you should set it to your own preference. Don't believe that only properly calibrated sets are "good" sets. Those settings are frequently too dull for the average Malaysian viewer who are used to "Sony" colors.

In general, setting your set to "Cinema" mode and "Warm" setting will get you closest to the 65K standard without much tweaking. It may however be too "yellow" for some folks. That's quite close to a calibrated set with just a few button presses.

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post Oct 29 2008, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(ceteh @ Oct 29 2008, 10:11 AM)
In Penang Queens Bay Mall, PV80 is going for RM4299 only whreas PV8 is RM3999. Not sure KL follow suit only, haven't check yet.
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it's actually going for lower than that at most shops if you bargain
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post Oct 29 2008, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(electron @ Oct 29 2008, 11:22 AM)
it's actually going for lower than that at most shops if you bargain
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Really? cool.

But I suppose if want to go for the 0% monthly installment credit card payment, not all normal shop will accept right?
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post Oct 29 2008, 11:43 AM

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Asked Desa HT last week, PV8 for RM3399. No freebies but still with 5 years warranty.

Just FYI. biggrin.gif
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post Oct 29 2008, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(ceteh @ Oct 29 2008, 11:30 AM)
Really? cool.

But I suppose if want to go for  the 0% monthly installment credit card payment, not all normal shop will accept right?
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ya, depending on the shop and the cc company. jusco got 12-month 0% for citibank and maybank cc.



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post Oct 29 2008, 01:30 PM

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QUOTE(99below0 @ Oct 29 2008, 10:43 AM)
That's nonsense from that "specialist". ALL HDTVs upscale or they won't be able to fill the whole 720p/1080p panel with a 576i SD source. It's the quality of the upscaling that sets the various TVs and manufacturers apart. An external upscaler MAY be better than the internal one in your TV, but the only way to be sure is to actually test and compare BEFORE you buy it. In many cases, a good 480p component DVD is better than a cheap 1080p HDMI DVD. Your eyes are the only opinion you should trust. smile.gif


Added on October 29, 2008, 10:48 am
Whatever looks good to you. Seriously. There is NO single setting that will please everyone so you should set it to your own preference. Don't believe that only properly calibrated sets are "good" sets. Those settings are frequently too dull for the average Malaysian viewer who are used to "Sony" colors.

In general, setting your set to "Cinema" mode and "Warm" setting will get you closest to the 65K standard without much tweaking. It may however be too "yellow" for some folks. That's quite close to a calibrated set with just a few button presses.
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Thats why I say I better trust the sifu here. Maybe has the marketing skill but not the technical skill doh.gif

BTW, what do u mean by 480p component DVD to 1080p HDMI DVD? Do u mean the cable or the player itself....?

I set my Plasma tv to Standard and normal settings. I found the Cinema and Warm too yellowish and dull in its colour to my eyes. So, I still maintain this settings since day 1.




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