Just because you think in such a manner, it does not mean that everybody thinks in such a manner. The moderating team here on LYN is large enough that not everybody knows each other, or are even interested in each other's area on the forum. In fact, there's places on the forums that I've not even visited all these years.

I don't know if that actually constitutes flamebaiting? I've had alot of similar posts in the health forum which were posted as jokes and taken as jokes. Again, if the one on the recieving end of the joke didn't approve, he could very easily ask for an apology or report ianho via the report button. Anyone of you could have, and if you felt it necessary, should have.
Just fyi, most of us who have experience with American forums will agree that it was a joke. Maybe a little badly timed, but a joke nonetheless.

The problem arises when an individual magically thinks he's above the forum's rules and decides to post whatever he wants wherever he wants. Had he brought the issue up here first instead of in the iphone forum(is it called that? w/e you know what I mean), his threads wouldn't have been removed. Whether or not ianho removed his threads is irrelevant aswell as any mod with the capacity to remove threads in that forum would have done so as they were posted in the wrong forum.

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And this applies to everyone: In the same way you members expect us to respond to your problems and issues with the forum(whether it be with the staff, mods, w/e), we expect you to go through the right channels when seeking resolutions to problems.

The moderator should have thought properly before making his supposed 'joke'.

is this the same excuse like, we already give citizenship to non-bumi and you all should be glad
and dun ask for me?

no one is paid to do anything, but im sure the LYN staff expect mods to be responsible. irresponsible mods will only generate ill will and disrupt the community. if i were se7en, id rather not have mods than having a disruptive one.

i can assure you that many of us are willing to replace ianho.

ok. i feel fyire is the most unbiased moderator. If he said so, I rest my case.

Well, again, context. I can't say f***kkk in photography (goldfries keeps editing my posts). But i can say it in RWI, kopitiam. It's down to how things are run and how bad things are on the ground.

I used to mod HW with an iron fist, while i let HW QnA run free, because the latter didn't have as many flame issues, had no post count and generally less nasty folks lurked there. If you don't like the moderating policy you'll have to talk to the mod. Frankly speaking i used to see enough reports from the football subsection even when RBR modded it actively to warrant it having an iron fist policy. But if you feel that things have improved, go talk to yer mod.

1) Saying that you have experience with American forums means nuts when you are in a Malaysian forum. In American forums, we have much more leniency as far as language constraints go, so go figure with LYN.

Yes, whether he has removed the thread or not is irrelevant but:

1) Why make the ill timed joke in the first place? As some one else has mentioned, nothing nice to say? Don't say it. Besides, to the victim, that's flamebaiting. The definition of flamebaiting:


An email, usually to a message board, written with intent to offend\anger\enrage other persons, so that they will send a flaming email in reply.

That has offended and caused rage. Why hasn't action been taken?

Though off topic, I may add that if someone were to go in an opposition thread and take the piss, he/she would be handed a warning whether it's a joke or not. I'm just stating an example that carries the similar offense.

2) Why not inform stringfellow that he should not have opened his thread there rather than closing SEVERAL similar threads.

This post has been edited by kobe8byrant: Aug 22 2008, 10:47 PM

if the mods have time to read thru this thread and reply/defend one another, can someone with power pls weed out all the irrelevant posts in this thread first? hello!? there are so many non-constructive posts all over and yet no one even bothered to remove or take care of it. the biggest joke is to have a meme picture (few pages back) in this feedback section. if you have the time to reply here, don't say you have no time to notice or remove those posts.

but deleting threads without explanation only generates ill will. the mods clearly stepped over the line with his irresponsible replies (this is not kopitiam). his subsequent attempts to cover his tracks only spark more discontent and ill will. this is clearly power abuse.

if i were TS, i wouldnt let this matter rest. sure, he posted in the wrong forums. but that doesnt justify closign the whole matter altogether

Editing isn't the same as getting a suspension. And talking about context, obviously that is irrelevant when the moderator/admin in question has already explained why the warning/suspension was given. He/she said that it is irrelevant of intent or spelling, a sustained use of profanity will be followed by a warning/suspension.

I have no problems watching a mod get the boot if he deserves it, like I said, we chat on the forums, that's about as far is it goes for me interms of relationships. Some are closer then others, that's normal, but I'll just as happily take actions against them as I would you should I have to. In the same way, if I get the boot for going too far over the line, I'll have no qualms about it.

I guess it's all about our morals.

BTW: I'm going to ask again that people who aren't posting constructive posts toward this specific issue to refrain from posting in this thread. If you have a different issue, open your own thread, that will allow both you and the OP of this thread to gain equal attention from us. It will also allow us to respond in a more timely manner, cause I probably missed like half the posts between my first post in this thread to this post.

This post has been edited by malaysianPotato: Aug 22 2008, 10:46 PM

Famous quote :

The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein\

very true indeed.

Then the aforementioned mod is practicing a ruthless zero tolerance policy. If you don't think the policy is justified, ask for a weaker one. Also when i say context, i also mean the bigger picture. I know loads of forumers that use the context of jokes and sarcasm for flame baiting in some sections (myself included), thus it would warrant a strong approach.

It's just like how Queensland police could fine me 50 bucks for Jaywalking, but they don't. Now, imagine that Jaywalking is the cause of tons of deaths around these here places. Would they let me go so easily after that?

what happen to you guy here? we just want is SOLUTION for:

why is that TS post is been delete? just give god damn reason enough.

reason accept, close case.

if reason unaccepted.
what is the action mod gonna give?

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Added on August 22, 2008, 10:58 pmor just apologize to TS enough...

and please make some RULES for mod that delete post without giving good reason.

This post has been edited by kai5183: Aug 22 2008, 10:58 PM

His thread wasn't deleted? It was closed, his posts in the other threads may have been deleted, but that'd be because he was off topic.
His threads were closed because they were in the wrong forum(well, whether or not that is the reason is irrelevant anyway, the threads were in the wrong forum and would have been closed by any other mod passing by).

If the reason is unaccepted, well what can I say... If you go to the Firedepartment to file a murder report, they're not going to entertain you are they?

There's no apology necessary to the TS of this thread, the only one who should recieve an apology would be the one on the recieving end of the joke, assuming he didn't see it as a joke and wants an apology.

This post has been edited by malaysianPotato: Aug 22 2008, 11:03 PM

so, is this consider a joke?

then should put this in jokes haven...let everyone share this joke together...

peace yo...

This post has been edited by kai5183: Aug 22 2008, 11:08 PM

If I were to go to the fire department and file a murder report, I'd be asked to go to the police.

And why delete them and put them up for the world to view in the end?

It's a public forum meant for the public to view. If I were to utter a profanity or utter a comment towards you, it doesn't matter if you or anyone feel offended as I'd get a warning regardless if it was an offense. Take racist remarks for example. It's not a conversation between the moderator and the one offended. It's a discussion between everyone involved. I thought the chewxy incident was a good precedent. It was a comment chewxy made to a particular person but everyone else got pissed, he resigned. End of.

Add: If it was a remark meant between the two parties, there's always PM.

ADD 2 : at the one who was talking bout profanities, http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=19415581

This post has been edited by kobe8byrant: Aug 22 2008, 11:23 PM

Look at the first post. The whole thing is about him not being able to take differing opinions about his. The whole thing about him blowing his lid off was about me telling him that the TV Out option was available for the iPhone since firmware 1.1.1, and he blew off into about me and my mistreatment of newbies in the iPhone forum.

Before you assume, read the entire thread. He deleted it so that it looks favourable to his case.

That first post is supposed to be a reply to his:-

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/678610/+1780

Look at Post #1784, that was his post. He blew his lid there. The resultant multiple posts was his attempts at supressing my post , and later threw the towel, resulting in that multiple post.

This post later is segregated into a singular thread, with this thread title. Moderator Axzel then moved this thread into the Feedback section.

Assumption is the mother of all fcukups. Dont marry that biatch.

I have to add that the OP is correct , more and more so called mods are abusing and misusing their position , in fact it's so obvious now that it's an open secret.

I know exactly what their motives are : 1 way or another they pushing their personal agendas and have a great insecurity about themselves so much so that no post can even be 1 iota against their viewpoint.

That is why they became mods in the 1 st place : to censor all discussions only to their liking , even if the posts do not break any rules.

Also I can read them like a book and many are trying to get noticed to become future politicians [ now you know why the quality of politicians are so rubbish].

WELL , this forum has a strong PKR favor , who in theory champion free speech yet their own supporters here are censoring more than UMNO could ever dream of.

Take note : the public are not stupid , we do notice the hypocrisy .

Admin the mods need moderation.

This post has been edited by 2HK: Aug 22 2008, 11:58 PM