everyone get their respect from doing the right thing, not cover everyone up to make you think that you are been respected.

actually we are not pointing at all the mod. we just want some good explanation for this case which can be accepted...

dont tell me murder case and fire department, that one is a joke...but this case not...

All those are just derailment, something to talk about and sweep the issue at hand under the rug. Next time before you assume, get the story from both party. The way I see it, there is already persecution without trial. People taking care of their own kind.

malaysianpotato care to explain if that really happened? multiple post edit + post delete.

we will not let this matter die until the staff see this.

malaysiapotato is one of them...but we will fight to the end!

I have been battling his constant deletion of my post in the iPhone Club Version 7 thread, and my attempts at making a new thread calling out his actions have been deleted and suppressed. THAT is why you see multiple posts made by me, in the iPhone club Version 7 thread, and THAT is why there are multiple threads calling him out. I have even posted it and tried moderate it close (since thread starter can do that), but he kept on opening it back, trying to make it look like I am spamming.

I have then managed, after he had gone tired of trying to suppress my posts, to clean up and close the multiple threads HE THEN LET RESURFACED, and also the posts in iPhone Club Version 7 Thread. Not a single attempt by him to explain his actions, nor remorse and a cleanup thereafter. I did the cleanup the best I could, as much as a normal forum member could.

sting: Yah man.. after going thru the iphone thread as refered, it doesn't seems right... goshh....

So MOD, can you propose a solution here instead of letting all of us bashing you and you keep on saying that we went to the Balai Bomba instead of Balai polis... haihhh.... when we dial 999, we expect the person answering the call can help, not giving another problems to solve!

malaysiapotato,

i dont think we agree with what you say regarding TS offt topic and wrong forum...

please let your friend ianho come out and defend himself ok? then you judge...

remark: if you misjudge, we will also pull you down at all cost...

This post has been edited by kai5183: Aug 22 2008, 11:30 PM

have any of you inform him about this thread? his last online @ 10.25pm.

dont say pulling ppl down la.

we just want the right ppl to look into this matter (staff not moderators). if ianho is found to have abused his power, we expect proper action.

whatever the outcome, it is in our best interest tat the findings are explained in detail

This post has been edited by Squidward: Aug 22 2008, 11:35 PM

That's no longer the same case as the one brought up at the start of this thread? You said, "Moderator ianho, is now actively denying my posts from being posted. He is deleting every post that had his actions exposing his childish acts of belittling Terapox during his attempts at reviving his iPhone."

Your threads were closed, yeah, and ianho did it. Fine. If he didn't do it, someone else would have, they were in the wrong forum. If your deleted posts were of the same nature featuring the same points, they would have been removed aswell, again, wrong forum.

As to your deleted post and issues outside of those pointed out in your first post, I wouldn't know, I don't check the deleted posts. But, for future reference, if you post in the wrong forum and have your post/thread removed, don't cry conspiracy, it's going to happen.



Name of mods, time and date, and name of thread, file a report or pm an admin. Any posts deleted can be viewed by admins. If you can't provide the information, your claims are invalid.

You know our motives? You don't know squat. I didn't become a mod to have my way, I was asked and accepted. Most if not all of the current mod team were asked to be mods, we didn't ask for the job, it was offered to us.

We are trying to be politicians? ROFL, that's rich.

We don't champion free speech. I personally have been trying to tell you people that you don't have free speech in Malaysia and that this is a private forum where you signed away your free speech.

You know what, troll elsewhere, we're not here to entertain trolls.

Again, based on the first post of this thread, the claims were that his threads were closed as a personal act against him by ianho. This cannot be validated because he posted his threads in the WRONG FORUM. If you post in the wrong forum, you get your post removed.

The one deserving an apology is the guy on the recieving end of Ianho's joke, he has (as far as I know) yet to file a report or request for Ianho's apology.

so does this mean TS has to start a new thread to report the "second" unsovled case? this is the far bigger issue, at least to me.

This post has been edited by Squidward: Aug 22 2008, 11:38 PM

OH MAN, you just love to accuse someone without even a solid proof huh?

He(Ianho) mistook this post as a challenge to his authority or a call to his knowledge on the subject of the iPhone:-

when it was meant as a heads-up to tell him the option was there since 1.1.1. The resultant blowup on his part, is simply because of his misintepretation of this post.

And what's fascinating is that he blew up on a totally separate topic, about the mistreatment of the newbies. Must have pent it up in his chest for a while, or had people riling him up to get this post out of his chest. My look on how newbies are treated are then explained here on this thread. Before that happened, the whole episode of him constantly deleting my posts and thread happened.

My point is, as a mod, you blowing up like this is very unprofessional-like. Leave the blowing up to the common folks like us, so you can look parent-like and take care os us common members with no wisdom. And the whole "deleting episode"? What can I say, it was akin to a salvage operation to fix an already sinking ship.

Never deny yourself justice, when you know you are in the clear. My views on newbie treatment in the iPhone forum may be up to question, but the issue here is not about that, it is about his "deletion episode" acts. You can court-martial me about my views on iPhone newbie treatment once this issue is said and done.

P/S: Regarding the issue of newbie treatment, already we are seeing results. A new member, Jackdon, had done the firmware update to 2.0.1, a fairly complicated procedure, all by himself, on his own initiative and self-reliance. This is the kind of user we are looking for in the iPhone forum, not the touch-and-go type that asks questions and disappears later. Contributary members are always a welcomed addition.

[/QUOTE][quote=stringfellow,Aug 22 2008, 11:24 PM]
I have been battling his constant deletion of my post in the iPhone Club Version 7 thread, and my attempts at making a new thread calling out his actions have been deleted and suppressed. THAT is why you see multiple posts made by me, in the iPhone club Version 7 thread, and THAT is why there are multiple threads calling him out. I have even posted it and tried moderate it close (since thread starter can do that), but he kept on opening it back, trying to make it look like I am spamming.

I have then managed, after he had gone tired of trying to suppress my posts, to clean up and close the multiple threads HE THEN LET RESURFACED, and also the posts in iPhone Club Version 7 Thread. Not a single attempt by him to explain his actions, nor remorse and a cleanup thereafter. I did the cleanup the best I could, as much as a normal forum member could.

[/quote]

Sigh, let's clear this up...
All your deleted posts and closed threads essentially contained: [QUOTE]Moderator ianho, is now actively denying my posts from being posted. He is deleting every post that had his actions exposing his childish acts of belittling Terapox during his attempts at reviving his iPhone. This is the post I'm trying to post, which he constantly deletes to stop people from knowing his wrongdoings.

[quote]Eh Mr, Moderator, that was just a free advice, nothing to blow your lid off lah. It was there since 1.1.1 , since the days od iPhone EDge , ONE year ago.

I did not say I know everything, but perhaps those NOOBS go to you because they know if they post it in here, they get the usual "learn up or shut up" treatment. Just because you are not here often, let me tell you how it is, since you are not always around here. If it is once or twice that these NOOBS come in here for help, it is understandable, but questions that can simply be answered by looking at Apple's own iPhone page (you're buying an iPhone, you're using an iPhone, where else should you refer to buy the Apple iPhone webpage? ), or simple Search in this very own thread YOU are moderating. Are you not advocating the usage of YOUR OWN forum and using the SEARCH feature YOUR FORUM have implemented that YOU, as a MODERATOR should encourage those NOOBS to use?

What's even more APPALING here is your treatment to this guy who had asked for help in this thread:-

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/772437

The guy was asking for help to revive his dead iPhone and all you have to say is this:-

[quote=ianho,Aug 21 2008, 09:40 PM]All ur iPhone is belong to us. Since it's dead oredi, sell for rm500 we take immediately, cash payment.

[/quote]


[quote=gpsp,Aug 21 2008, 09:43 PM]I offer RM600!

[/quote]

which resulted in people joining in the fun YOU INSTIGATED, while happily watching the guy suffer in his failures of fixing his iPhone.

[quote=nokia2003,Aug 21 2008, 09:58 PM]guys, please don't add posts such as purchasing his phone etc.
he is already stressful enough and will not appreciate jokes like that.
just give him some space will ya?

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Added on August 21, 2008, 10:00 pmbe a little bit more sympathetic especially from the very senior members. stuffs like that are meant to be joked or flamed.

[/quote]

Not until Nokia had come in and put YOU, A MODERATOR, in your place, by teaching you not to pick on the poor guy, that you had stopped your chidings.

NOW, who the hell should have the right to remain silent here and not to abuse people YOU DEEMED AS EASY PICKINGS?

Idiot.[/quote]

Great example we have as a moderator here.[QUOTE]

Is that an accurate assumption? If so, then all your posts and threads were removed rightly(irrelevant of ianho's intent) as they were in the wrong forum. If you have a problem with someone(mod or otherwise), report it or bring it up HERE in the FEEDBACK FORUM. That's why we have the report button and feedback forum. You can't expect to go posting complaints and claims against a mod saying he's abusing powers in the wrong forum and not have your threads closed. It's simply the wrong place to do it.

And yes, it's really that simple. You can't say he's covering it up because it's his job to remove posts and threads which are no longer in topic. If you had posted here and he deleted the posts/threads, then yes, by all means cry conspiracy, call him out, or w/e.

Another thing, the forum rules are not set by you. You may have unofficial standards and rules, but the bottom line is you don't control the forum. You may say "this is how we do things" but if that doesn't agree with how we do things, who trumps who here?

[quote=kai5183,Aug 22 2008, 11:29 PM]
malaysiapotato,

i dont think we agree with what you say regarding TS offt topic and wrong forum...

please let your friend ianho come out and defend himself ok? then you judge...

remark: if you misjudge, we will also pull you down at all cost...

[/quote]

I don't actually care if you disagree with my opinion of whether his threads were in the wrong forum. They were as I read it a complaint against a mod, that means it's not supposed to be in the IPHONE FORUM.

Let me break this down for you.
Feedback = Where you bring your issues(with mods, other members, whatever) up, so we can seek a resolution.
IPHONE forum = where you discuss your iphones.

Which of the two should a complaint/claim against a mod go to?

And btw, if that last bit was supposed to be a threat, lol. You sure you want to take it there? We don't take kindly to trolls.


Edit: Damnit, quotes didn't come out right. Bah, you guys should be able to read it.

This post has been edited by malaysianPotato: Aug 22 2008, 11:55 PM

Malaysianpotato,

My efforts on posting a THREAD instead of a post, is because he is constantly deleting my posts in iPhone Club Version 7 thread. Dont tell me to keep on posting in that thread, and succumb to his deletion? My actual intention of posting that thread is to call him out on his acts, but instead he carries on and deletes the thread as well. Push comes to shove, and Newton's law dictates "Every actions, there is an opposite and equal reaction", I pushed back. My whole intention was to get him to explain why my post AND my attempt to call him out, by posting a THREAD, was ignored by him, and yet ke hept deleting every single post I tried to make to get him to explain his actions.

Obviously, it is in his mind to continue ignoring these attempts and he happily went about with the deletion until he realised that he could not stop me from posting further. He then resorted to both RE-ACTIVATING the THREADS that are intended to call him out, to make it look like I'm spamming. After that episode, it WAS I who cleaned up the thread, not HIM. I felt responsible for messing up the forum, yet it was his actions that REACTIVATED the threads back again. I had to manually go into these threads, and moderate them CLOSE.

The point I'm making is, Ianho did not bear any responsibility towards his actions, of constantly deleting my posts, resulting in me calling him out using a posted THREAD. He then proceed to also delete the THREAD intended to call him out, which I in turn, try to repost back. After he was tired of it, he REACTIVATED the DELETED thread to make it look like I am spamming. All this are his smokescreen to make himself look innocent and spilling the guilty trip on me. He has yet to come to answer for his acts on this.

Take responsibility, I took mine, and did the cleanup the best I could. He however, disappears. What does that show you?

This post has been edited by stringfellow: Aug 22 2008, 11:56 PM

No, if he says it's the same issue, fine. I don't really care either way.

For crying out loud.

Here, plain a simple.

Feedback forum = you wanna call out a mod on his actions, you wanna complain about one of us, you wanna bring up issues, ALL HERE IN THE FEEDBACK FORUM.

IPHONE FORUM = IPHONE TALK.

Your threads were in the wrong forum, period.

So, go pass the whole thread hilang, post hilang issue and get to the main issue. Which according to your first post was that he offended you with his joke and that he got pissed off and lost his temper with you after you told him whatever.

He disappears? Cough, we have lives too. If I weren't on sick leave, I'd have kicked this issue to my next week crap-to-do-list and done other stuff.

This post has been edited by malaysianPotato: Aug 23 2008, 12:04 AM

See - What we have said is vindicated , the reaction is abusive and derogatory without even understanding the post - proves our point.

Okay then, I guess this thread serves as a "reason" why a mod is called out and reported.

The accused mod has yet to come in to his defense.

EDIT: I'm sorry that issues like this are considered crap to you. Shows how much this forum meant to you, or its privileges/benefits. Some of us do care about this forum. I have other things to do too, but brushing it off as something trivial may just work just like brushing it under the carpet.

This post has been edited by stringfellow: Aug 23 2008, 12:06 AM

i agree. nevertheless, the admins will see this thread very soon. i hope the right action will be taken.

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Added on August 23, 2008, 12:08 amquoted just in case mod modifies his post

This post has been edited by Squidward: Aug 23 2008, 12:08 AM

the fact is you were spamming. when the moderating crew decides to invisible the thread and you keep making a new one, clearly you're going against the decision of authority.

you already have a mind of your own that THE THREAD MUST EXIST when fact is that there is already a Main Site/Forum Feedback and Helpdesk section available.

so from what i see

1. you went against moderating crew decision
2. you were adamant at creating the thread
3. you were adamant at creating the thread at the wrong place

and another thing - who exactly was the moderator that took action on the thread? are you sure it's done by ianho?

which comes to point 4. do you have proof that it was ianho?




you WERE spamming. not only that, you WERE going against moderating crew decision.

ianho has not spoken so far, but from what i see - you are the one painting all sorts of picture at the moment.




dude, what do you think this place is? a bar? call people out? WTH!?!?!? who are you that you think you have the given rights to create a thread that's totally off topic to CALL HIM OUT?

for a person like you, i was expecting a more civilized approach, something that could be done in tasteful, proper and respectful manner. opening a thread at the wrong place to call the person out and this and that just isn't the way, like gangster style go yell outside someone's house to bring attention when a phone call would be good.

if explanation was what you are seeking, then a simple PM to him asking "excuse me ianho, may I know why..........." would suffice - simple, sweet and polite. you could've discussed with him via PM, or approach the moderator of the section or someone of higher authority to highlight your dissatisfaction but noooooo, you had to do what you did.

and you got the cheek to claim "push comes to shove" when actually you're the one doing all the pushing and shoving. you were clearly against forum R&R and it is clear that your transgressions are many but when the moderator was just doing his / her job.

currently there's no proof or record on who did the invisible, but whoever that moderator was - while he / she could've shifted the thread to the appropraite section, deleting the threads weren't wrong either.