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 Moderator Ianho abusing power!, Try to cover up by deleting my posts.

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post Aug 22 2008, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(temptation1314 @ Aug 22 2008, 10:15 PM)
Err... guys. There's something called LIFE.

So wait lar. Don't judge first smile.gif

P/S : Seriously I believe every mod action have their own good reason. Just that some of us(which including me, maybe) are blind and unable to see that is a mistake.

Anyway, just wait ianho to come here and explain before judging others.
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I see you're photographer too. Pls photographer don't come in here. You're only
make things worst.
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post Aug 22 2008, 10:20 PM

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Gee, that's alot to reply to. Let's see, where to start...

QUOTE(gogo2 @ Aug 22 2008, 08:43 PM)
You've just proof my point. You actually hate stringfellow. Pls don't. This will cloud your judgement.
Moderator should be impartial.
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I hate him now? How's that? Because I've never met or talked to him before, I magically hate him all of a sudden?

QUOTE(gogo2 @ Aug 22 2008, 09:30 PM)
for god sake, moderator are friends....

I've been a moderator before. Everyone is like friends. So don't blame him for helping his friend.
I bet you're going to help your friend when your friend is being bombard right?
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And you're saying that based on what knowledge? None? Right, figures.
FYI, I don't personally know any of the other mods, staff or admins, I've never talked with any of them face to face and have never phoned/sms'd any of them. I don't talk with ianho outside of moderation issues, I don't know his msn or email. So no, not all mods are friends, they're acquaintances. Since your comment was based solely on the false assumption that I was his friend, your argument is fail. I'm not helping him when he's getting bombarded, I'm simply pointing out the flaws in Stringfellow's approach to the situation and how he could have handled the situation better and that if you post in the wrong forum, your thread is going to get closed.

QUOTE(gogo2 @ Aug 22 2008, 08:56 PM)
moderator is not blind. every post accompanied by poster name. so if moderator hate a person, ask another
moderator to moderate that post. If all moderator hate that person, laugh.gif that's really too bad. But as vincent
say, world is not fair. But since we're here to complain:

We demand justice!!!!!!!!
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Lol, if you demand justice, I demand you post in a more intelligent manner.
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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Aug 22 2008, 08:52 PM)
@Malaysianpotato

The re-emergence of the new threads are because he had deleted the first thread, and I am force to form a new one. After a while, these deleted thread reappears again, giving the impression that as if I am spamming. Look into my post history, I dont spam.

The issue at hand here is why he deletes my posts, and why he is thwarting every attempt I made to post, INCLUDING those new threads. If he had allowed the thread to be posted, there would not have been multiple threads to begin with. I dont know how the forum works, but he deleted my first thread, and it disappears. I made another thread, and he deleted it, and that too disappears. After several attempts, he got weary of it, and all the deleted threads reappeared.

His attempts to stop my post from reappearing in two threads in iPhone section is also evident of this.

My point here is, he cannot take criticism that points him as being anything but perfect. Once he has been exposed to be wrong, his first action is to delete any existence of that evidence (in this case, a post and a thread) to keep his forum outlook clean. It is THAT important to him.

Me? I've already been branded a bad guy to you, so it makes no difference. All I want is resolution to his actions.
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And why did you think it'd be okay to post your complaint against him in the WRONG FORUM? Post it here, where it's supposed to be posted. That way, your thread doesn't get killed and you don't have to be annoying to all the mods by spamming threads in the WRONG FORUM.

The issue at hand isn't why he deleted your posts, he did it because that's his job on this forum. The removal of threads which are out of sync with the regulations of the forum they are posted in. Common sense people, if you post in the wrong forum, your thread is going to get removed.
If you bring up the same issue that you did in your closed thread in another thread in the WRONG FORUM, it'll be removed.
This isn't rocket science, you post in the wrong forum, your post go byebye.

Your point is invalid because you're basing it on his removal of your posts/threads which were posted in the WRONG FORUM. Whether I like you or not is irrelevant, I'm all for the removal of bad eggs from our nest, but if you can't bring your case forward in the right way, then OBVIOUSLY, you're not going to see the results you want.

QUOTE(stringfellow @ Aug 22 2008, 08:54 PM)
My point exactly. Some of the moderators here are incapable of being partial. When they enter a thread or forum to moderate, they are already biased to certain issues. Or biased to act against certain members that do not agree with them.
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In the same way, convicted child rapists are usually looked at first when a child is raped, we look at people who cause problems more often first. I personally carry forward past experiences with people I interact with to future events. Common trait in all humans I think.

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QUOTE(Masamune @ Aug 22 2008, 08:58 PM)
Just got back home an World War 3 started..
Frankly..(not taking any sides)

People are allowed to be mad even though its a joke..
Ok..maybe iPhone doesn't matter much to YOU but it does to US..

Can you imagine something you own and love like a laptop,car or any other thing break down and become unusable and 'some guy' comes and say stuff like wanting to buy it at a STUPID price?
While you stress yourself searching google,etc for help someone just like make a stupid joke about it??
And main thing is the 'guy' never even bothered to apologize or feeling any remorse at all..
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Yeah, so it's a joke and you get angry fine. But that doesn't give you the right to break forum rules as and when you think you're justified. It's still a joke, this is still the internet where people are expected to have skin thicker than that of a 6 year old school girl. If the guy who was on the recieving end of the joke was unhappy, he could have pm'd ianho and ianho would most likely have apologized both privately in pm and in the thread. But to my knowledge he didn't.

QUOTE(Masamune @ Aug 22 2008, 09:04 PM)
I agree the world isn't a fair place..
But no one can stop us from complaining...
Its a free world..
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Really? My understanding of local law is that there's no freedom of speech in Malaysia. That's an American thing. This forum is privately owned, so you don't really have freedom of speech here either.


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post Aug 22 2008, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(baretta @ Aug 22 2008, 06:50 PM)
rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif
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with so many one liners from you, you should already been warned or sent on a holiday instead of still allowed to post one liners. great job! let's hit the report button and see what can the mod team do.
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Aug 22 2008, 10:15 PM)
Its u again with long and winding post which serve no purpose. I'm glad you're not moderator... tongue.gif
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dun say like that la.. he has 7900+ posts compare to you only 2800+ wink.gif respect ppl a bit la... it's just diff style of writing wink.gif
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Aug 22 2008, 10:20 PM)
I see you're photographer too. Pls photographer don't come in here. You're only
make things worst.
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In that case, can I ask you to leave this discussion aswell? You've added virtually nothing which aids in the resolution of the case and all your posts have been biased against the moderating team. Worse yet is that your bias is based on baseless assumptions, you're not helping.

At the same time, I'm going to ask everyone who's just posting "MOD UNFAIR!" or "Mods all biased" or that kind of thing to stop posting here, if you want to post, be constructive. This isn't the kopitiam, it's the feedback forum, we're trying to resolve specific issues with specific individuals, not let you take out your political(or personal) frustrations on the moderating team.

This post has been edited by malaysianPotato: Aug 22 2008, 10:24 PM
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QUOTE(ah_heng @ Aug 22 2008, 10:21 PM)
dun say like that la.. he has 7900+ posts compare to you only 2800+ wink.gif respect ppl a bit la... it's just diff style of writing wink.gif
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lol.

how does number of post counts = respect?

back during the days, all of the forums were open to post counts, and people were spamming to increase their post counts.

therefore, post counts <> respect.
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post Aug 22 2008, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(malaysianPotato @ Aug 22 2008, 10:20 PM)
Gee, that's alot to reply to. Let's see, where to start...
I hate him now? How's that? Because I've never met or talked to him before, I magically hate him all of a sudden?
And you're saying that based on what knowledge? None? Right, figures.
FYI, I don't personally know any of the other mods, staff or admins, I've never talked with any of them face to face and have never phoned/sms'd any of them. I don't talk with ianho outside of moderation issues, I don't know his msn or email. So no, not all mods are friends, they're acquaintances. Since your comment was based solely on the false assumption that I was his friend, your argument is fail. I'm not helping him when he's getting bombarded, I'm simply pointing out the flaws in Stringfellow's approach to the situation and how he could have handled the situation better and that if you post in the wrong forum, your thread is going to get closed.
Lol, if you demand justice, I demand you post in a more intelligent manner.
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That's wrong assumption. I never said you're friend in the manner of Sms, calling yumcha etc.
Its just friend in moderating forum. Thats already enuf to be biased. I should be the one who
need to demand intelligent posting from you.
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post Aug 22 2008, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(malaysianPotato @ Aug 22 2008, 10:20 PM)
Yeah, so it's a joke and you get angry fine. But that doesn't give you the right to break forum rules as and when you think you're justified. It's still a joke, this is still the internet where people are expected to have skin thicker than that of a 6 year old school girl. If the guy who was on the recieving end of the joke was unhappy, he could have pm'd ianho and ianho would most likely have apologized both privately in pm and in the thread. But to my knowledge he didn't.
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And I do believe there's a rule where a moderator isn't allowed to take advantage by advertising his business as well? And I sense that MOST people have not taken it as a joke. Face it, were it some insignificant fry who did the same or had a comment of a similar nature (joke) that was taken the wrong way, he'd be guilty of flamebaiting.

EG: Fernando Torres is a Spanish girl would warrant a three day leave while it'd be clear that it's a joke. But no, we aren't moderators, hence we can get a suspension.

And you have not answered my question:

Why wasn't a reason for the closing of thread given. Why wasn't stringfellow asked to have his concerns voiced elsewhere which would have solved all this trouble. You say that this is the Internet and people are supposed to .....

Why not have a little common sense on the part of ianho and tell stringfellow to open the threads elsewhere? And if so, I suppose people on the Internet are supposed to know heck all, why with the needless warnings for petty offenses. Come on, if everyone's supposed to have thicker skin, there shouldn't be warnings dished out for flaming and flamebaiting as we should be man enough to take it in.

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QUOTE(malaysianPotato @ Aug 22 2008, 10:21 PM)
In that case, can I ask you to leave this discussion aswell? You've added virtually nothing which aids in the resolution of the case and all your posts have been biased against the moderating team. Worse yet is that your bias is based on baseless assumptions, you're not helping.

At the same time, I'm going to ask everyone who's just posting "MOD UNFAIR!" or "Mods all biased" or that kind of thing to stop posting here, if you want to post, be constructive. This isn't the kopitiam, it's the feedback forum, we're trying to resolve specific issues with specific individuals, not let you take out your political(or personal) frustrations on the moderating team.
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Hey, I did say ianho is a nice guy. I'm not bias against him. I just want to demand justice.
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Aug 22 2008, 10:23 PM)
That's wrong assumption. I never said you're friend in the manner of Sms, calling yumcha etc.
Its just friend in moderating forum. Thats already enuf to be biased. I should be the one who
need to demand intelligent posting from you.
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I'm not a friend of ianho's, I don't talk to him. I'm a moderator, but that doesn't affect my judgement? You assumed that we're all friends, we're not. I don't talk with most of the mods at all. I can in the same way say that you're biased against us because you're a fellow Malaysian.
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Before I comment further, can I ask MalaysianPotato whether you have the power to overwrite another mod's decision and have the power to suspend other mod? If not, i think we will not solve anything today wink.gif
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QUOTE(malaysianPotato @ Aug 22 2008, 10:21 PM)
In that case, can I ask you to leave this discussion aswell? You've added virtually nothing which aids in the resolution of the case and all your posts have been biased against the moderating team. Worse yet is that your bias is based on baseless assumptions, you're not helping.
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i hope you can explain in detail regarding TS posting in the wrong forums.

why delete the thread rather than moving it to the right one?

be transparent because many are watching this thread
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Aug 22 2008, 10:15 PM)
Its u again with long and winding post which serve no purpose. I'm glad you're not moderator... tongue.gif
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I might just PM se7en for my old job back and put you on my regular hitlist biggrin.gif

Crap HW is filled with more idiots than a dolt convention that serves lead paint as a regular beverage.

QUOTE(kobe8byrant @ Aug 22 2008, 10:19 PM)
Intent doesn't count in LYN, at least that was what I was told. Saying "what the f***" is the same as "f*** you, you f***." Me and my friends were on the end of both offenses.

Haven't you seen enough of this posted?

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Depends on context roughly. Everyone will try to skew interpretations for their own purposes. Life's like that.

Of course giving an angry face and point it at someone and screaming motherf***er! will get your ass kicked. But opening your arms and saying "long time no see motherf***errrr" is different. That's the part that's up to individual interpretation.
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QUOTE(ah_heng @ Aug 22 2008, 10:09 PM)
Ok.. Where is our Master IanHo??
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Busy mod casing i guess. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(empire23 @ Aug 22 2008, 10:27 PM)
Of course giving an angry face and point it at someone and screaming motherf***er! will get your ass kicked. But opening your arms and saying "long time no see motherf***errrr" is different. That's the part that's up to individual interpretation.
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As I said, I have seen people suspended for "FARRRRRRKKKKKK, Rooney scored." Explain? Even FARK is deem a profanity because it sounds like the magical F word.

*I'm just pointing it out, please do understand, moderators.
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QUOTE(malaysianPotato @ Aug 22 2008, 10:25 PM)
I'm not a friend of ianho's, I don't talk to him. I'm a moderator, but that doesn't affect my judgement? You assumed that we're all friends, we're not. I don't talk with most of the mods at all. I can in the same way say that you're biased against us because you're a fellow Malaysian.
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ok, then I apologize for that assumption.

But will mod always help mod? I mean, if i'm a mod,
I'm sure will side with mod first right eventhough I'm not
the mod's fren. Wat do you think?

Its physchology really. First think you'll thought that the mod
is doing his job. Right?
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Not sure what's really going on here but...

I personally think that if you have nothing nice or good to post (especially in more serious topics) then I would expect one not to post anything at all and simply move onto to something else to read or post up something related to the topic.

No one is paid to do anything here. In fact, no one is charged for being a member of LYN as well.

The whole point of creating a certain category is to discuss. Remember the day when you all asked for an iPhone section but at first it was only considered by the Admins (I can still remember posting it up at the admin/mod section asking)? Well, be glad that they allowed it.

We shouldn't take everything for granted here.
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Aug 22 2008, 10:30 PM)
ok, then I apologize for that assumption.

But will mod always help mod? I mean, if i'm a mod,
I'm sure will side with mod first right eventhough I'm not
the mod's fren. Wat do you think?

Its physchology really. First think you'll thought that the mod
is doing his job. Right?
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i understand your dissatisfaction.

but let us remain calm. until mods explain the basis of their actions in detail (not just vague "wrong forums" explanation), we will not let this matter die.


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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Aug 22 2008, 10:30 PM)
ok, then I apologize for that assumption.

But will mod always help mod? I mean, if i'm a mod,
I'm sure will side with mod first right eventhough I'm not
the mod's fren. Wat do you think?

Its physchology really. First think you'll thought that the mod
is doing his job. Right?
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From what I think, mod dun help mod all the time. But when we start belasah a Mod and the other Mod thinks they also did the same thing, then they will be on a defensive attitude. Come on la... they are mod, we are ciku, we wanna say bad things abt mod sure they will be upset la!!!

Correct me if im wrong wink.gif
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QUOTE(azxel @ Aug 22 2008, 10:32 PM)
Not sure what's really going on here but...

I personally think that if you have nothing nice or good to post (especially in more serious topics) then I would expect one not to post anything at all and simply move onto to something else to read or post up something related to the topic.
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And that rightly applies to the moderator in question for this case. He had nothing nice to say, he said it. Same goes to se7en in the other complain thread.

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