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post Aug 5 2008, 10:18 PM, updated 18y ago

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Newest Update !! rclxms.gif Our New Website is out , follow this link to get there . http://www.freewebs.com/sunwaycybergames/rulesregulation.htm


Dear beloved gamers,

Good news ! Sunway University College will be hosting an inter-college cybergames tournament which will feature what we think are the three of the most popular games in Malaysia, Dota ( Defense of the Ancients ), COD4 ( Call Of Duty 4 ) and Cs ( Counter-Strike ). The details of this tourney are stated below :

Venue : Sunway Rock Cafe ( beside Sunway University College )
Date : 6th - 7th September
Time : 10am.
Players: OPEN TO PUBLIC
Deadline for registration : 31st of August ' national day.

*Players are expected to be here at 9am to register your team on that day.
*Teams that are interested can reserve your slots now !
*The tournament for Cs 1.6 and COD4 will only go on if there is at least 16 teams joining
Cs and Cod4 players, please reserve slots now so that the the number of teams are sufficent for the competitions .

*Max slots for Dota is 32 teams.



Prizes for Dota.
1st - RM 1000 + Sponsors Products
2nd- RM 500 + Sponsors Products
3rd - RM 250 + Sponsors Products


Prizes for Cs.
1st - RM 800 + Sponsors Products
2nd- RM 400 + Sponsors Products
3rd - RM 200 + Sponsors Products


Prizes for COD4 - Team 5v5 .
1st - RM 800 + Sponsors Products
2nd- RM 400 + Sponsors Products
3rd - RM 200 + Sponsors Products


The Solo King Of Cod4 - FFA ( Free For All )
1st - RM 300 + Sponsors Products
2nd- RM 200 + Sponsors Products
3rd - RM 100 + Sponsors Products


**Players that joined the Cod4 tournament , 5v5 category can also join the FFa category, as the FFA category will be held in the morning, wbereas the 5v5 tournament will be held at noon.**

Registration fees :
RM 100 For Dota , Rm 100 for Cs, Rm 100 for CoD4 teammatch, Rm 30 for FFA tournament (Cod4)


To register :
1. Download registration form below, Dota And Counter-strike respectively
2. Complete the form and send to sunwaycybergames@gmail.com


To Pay registration fees :
1. Contact Jason Philip Tham, 012 699 6926 to arrange Walk In Payment at Sunway University College.
OR
2. Pay the fees directly at Sunway Rock Cafe. * registration forms will also be available at Sunway Rock Cafe shortly.


Registration Form :
Dota -Attached File  Dota_registration.doc ( 33.5k ) Number of downloads: 128

Cs -Attached File  Cs_registration.doc ( 34.5k ) Number of downloads: 32

Cod4 - Attached File  COD4_Registration.doc ( 34.5k ) Number of downloads: 111



Rules And Regulations for DotA :
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Rules and regulations for Counter-Strike 1.6:
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Rules and regulations for Cod4 ( Team Match ):
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Rules and regulations for Cod4 - The Solo King FFA tournament :
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Reserved slots for DotA :
1. S`rC ApCL
2. WsS - Why so Serious
3. Terminal 2
4. Fishnet
5. New Cybertime GoV
6. S`rC Bkt
7. Bkt 2
8. Kaos
9. fGm
10. Cybertime E
11. Tbun
12. Space Jam
13. GL
14. Aiyak
15. Revenge
16. R-Matrix | Anc paid


Reserved slots for CoD4 :
1. [XEF] ALPHA
2. [XEF] BRAVO
3. C.E.R.T.
4. [FFF] Rangers
5. [FFF] Elites
6. [FFF] Recon
7. [seXer] Team Orion
8. JEDI
9. RnF
10. SWL.RvG
11. SWL.PeW
12. XxX
13. ESP <aXe>
14. Lulz
15. ESP.<wow>
16. MBT.Light
17. [ESP].eGo
18. [PAR]
19. DREAM
20. pX
21. marvintwj
22. [Bf.Nut] 1
23. [Bf.Nut] 2
24. SIGA-B 1
25. SIGA-B 2
26. [ESP].emo


Results For Cod4 Team :

Champion : [ESP].<WoW>
1st Runner-up : JEDI
2nd Runner-up : Tbun|FFF.Elites
3rd Runner-up : Bf.Nut


Results For Cod4 FFA !! :

1st: [ESP]NoBie
2nd: [ESP]Ashley
3rd: [ESP]Death
4th: [ESP]susu
5th: [BF.Nut]Soldier
6th: [BF.Nut]Gen3sis
7th: [ESP].Hayabusa
8th: [BF.nut]Shox


Results for DotA :

Champion : Tbun
1st Runner-Up : DNA-SK
2nd Runner-up : Cybertime




Replays For Dota Can be found here ;D



Top 32(Round 1): http://rapidshare.com/files/143378750/Top32.rar.html

Top 16 (Round 2): http://rapidshare.com/files/143378751/Top16.rar.html

Quarter-Finals: http://rapidshare.com/files/143378752/Quar...Finals.rar.html

Semi-Finals: http://rapidshare.com/files/143378753/Semi-Final.rar.html

Finals and 3th-4th placing: http://rapidshare.com/files/143378754/Fina..._match.rar.html

This post has been edited by Juz_MaRk: Sep 8 2008, 09:08 PM
B|itzGeass
post Aug 5 2008, 10:25 PM

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Awwww Why Secondary Can't Join T.T
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post Aug 5 2008, 10:27 PM

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secondary students cant join, this tourney only open for College or Uni students.

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post Aug 5 2008, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(Juz_MaRk @ Aug 5 2008, 10:27 PM)
secondary students cant join, this tourney only open for College or Uni students.
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lols ..eh so sky team still can join?=D then ur team n my team can join? haha we special?
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post Aug 5 2008, 10:43 PM

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Why u worry, you got the hair academy letter or something right biggrin.gif ?
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post Aug 5 2008, 10:44 PM

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QUOTE(Juz_MaRk @ Aug 5 2008, 10:43 PM)
Why u worry, you got the hair academy letter or something right biggrin.gif ?
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no lar cuz rox canot join ma ..LOL haahha ..so how? means ur team apcl canot join a?
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post Aug 5 2008, 10:49 PM

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Can join, only less 2 members biggrin.gif Since im organising means autoban from it already . evisu underage
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post Aug 5 2008, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(Juz_MaRk @ Aug 5 2008, 10:49 PM)
Can join, only less 2 members biggrin.gif  Since im organising means autoban from it already . evisu underage
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means? evisu canot join? what autoban? lols ..then ur apcl who play for u all? then my bkt team oso nid student to play for?lols
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post Aug 5 2008, 10:54 PM

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prize?
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post Aug 5 2008, 11:03 PM

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prize not confirmed yet Benny. Guess it would depend on the number of teams joining and sponsors. If turnout rate is high, then prize would be nice of course.

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post Aug 5 2008, 11:05 PM

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QUOTE(Juz_MaRk @ Aug 5 2008, 11:03 PM)
prize not confirmed yet Benny. Guess it would depend on the number of teams joining and sponsors. If turnout rate is high, then prize would be nice of course.
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DIAM LA!
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post Aug 5 2008, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(ToFuM|cZ[x�)
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DIAM LA!
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yes sir @ . @
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post Aug 5 2008, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(Juz_MaRk @ Aug 5 2008, 11:11 PM)
yes sir @ . @
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LOL ..hahahahah boring lar ..ntg to do @@
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post Aug 5 2008, 11:39 PM

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evisu team underage 1 meh? =.=
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post Aug 6 2008, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(ToFuM|cZ[x�)
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LOL ..hahahahah boring lar ..ntg to do @@
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no ..juz mark oso in evisu team la..oni evisu underage lar =.= ..

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post Aug 6 2008, 12:11 PM

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Not matter wat jus reserve for bkt 1st
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got fee for the CS tournament?? biggrin.gif
btw can uniten students join too??
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C*B*I
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post Aug 6 2008, 03:15 PM

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Of course there'll be a fee, definitely at a reasonable price xD maaaarrk can i join? =D
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Hello`
Can any secondary Student Join?
Or any other colleage Ppl Join?
Onli Open for Sunway student Onli?
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post Aug 6 2008, 04:03 PM

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open to any college or uni students ! y mickey n mark so gay ?
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post Aug 6 2008, 06:02 PM

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Any SLOT limit ?
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QUOTE(C|anToN` @ Aug 6 2008, 04:03 PM)
open to any college or uni students ! y mickey n mark so gay ?
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diam ***** clanton ..hahaha mark gay oni ..i normal ^^
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post Aug 6 2008, 06:59 PM

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QUOTE(C|anToN` @ Aug 6 2008, 04:03 PM)
open to any college or uni students ! y mickey n mark so gay ?
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Zzzzz...there write inter-college leh means any college la soh hing hong!!!
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Team FOtress 2 ?????????
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post Aug 6 2008, 07:57 PM

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sunway got dota players meh? I never able to find one -.- at least in my course.

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QUOTE(Miracles @ Aug 6 2008, 07:57 PM)
sunway got dota players meh? I never able to find one -.- at least in my course.
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got but all at ftz =]
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ohh dry.gif no wonder. rock cafe like no ppl play dota -.- very seldom
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owhhhhhhh..
can reserve two slot for teams from uniten?? laugh.gif
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aiyak, solo player tim. any team needs player? unsure.gif =(
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post Aug 7 2008, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(TarcianXX @ Aug 6 2008, 06:02 PM)
Any SLOT limit ?
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Dota 64, Cs 64.

QUOTE(Miracles @ Aug 7 2008, 01:49 AM)
ohh dry.gif no wonder. rock cafe like no ppl play dota -.- very seldom
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U never see me play at rock cafe before meh ? whats ur lan game name ?

QUOTE(ryo_ken @ Aug 7 2008, 03:39 AM)
owhhhhhhh..
can reserve two slot for teams from uniten??  laugh.gif
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Reserving slots for Cs or Dota ?

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post Aug 7 2008, 05:31 PM

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lol ..cuz sky rock cafe not modern like ftz ma =DD


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post Aug 7 2008, 05:37 PM

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Oi ur registration fee rm100? Then prize how much oh?
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QUOTE(Dai`dai @ Aug 7 2008, 05:37 PM)
Oi ur registration fee rm100? Then prize how much oh?
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Will update at first post when confirmed .
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u no tell prize already tell registration form how to register oh later register jor prize is rm150 then GG
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QUOTE(Juz_MaRk @ Aug 7 2008, 03:26 PM)

U never see me play at rock cafe before meh ? whats ur lan game name ?

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yours?
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QUOTE(Miracles @ Aug 7 2008, 05:54 PM)
HotNSpicyNoodles / xNightmare
yours?
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haha. i've got many nicknames. But i don't think ive played with you.
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lol i see. cos i just moved to sunway a month ago. =)


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QUOTE(Juz_MaRk @ Aug 7 2008, 05:58 PM)
haha. i've got many nicknames. But i don't think ive played with you.
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many nicknames so that easy leave game ..ahhahah ..
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rm100 also free for us mahh ?
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many nicknames so that easy leave game ..ahhahah ..
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haha true. But in sky cc, i always say "if u leave game, I'll personally find u and chop ur head off, I know where u are sitting." lol.
and it works. brows.gif
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Any 1 Here?
Plz Reply me?
This Competion 1st Place how much?
Then How much register?
Can reserve slot For T2?
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post Aug 7 2008, 09:32 PM

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QUOTE(NicBB` @ Aug 7 2008, 07:57 PM)
Any 1 Here?
Plz Reply me?
This Competion 1st Place how much?
Then How much register?
Can reserve slot For T2?
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I'm here, I'm replying you.

Prize haven't decided cause still looking for sponsor, registration rm100

Will reserve slot for T2 in DotA.
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QUOTE(NicBB` @ Aug 6 2008, 03:35 PM)
Hello`
Can any secondary Student Join?
Or any other colleage Ppl Join?
Onli Open for Sunway student Onli?
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open to ANY college or uni students biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Juz_MaRk @ Aug 7 2008, 09:32 PM)
I'm here, I'm replying you.

Prize haven't decided cause still looking for sponsor, registration rm100

Will reserve slot for T2 in DotA.
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T2? all student meh? CAN RESERVE 2 SLOT FOR T3 AND SK-II ?XDDDDDDD
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If registration fees is rm 100 is too high already for student shakehead.gif , rm 50 still ok abit
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Guys, its RM 100 per team. Each team has 6 members ( 1 reserve ) so thats RM 20 per.
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is that really true? even me who always come to rock cafe, play 5 hours a day also didn't know got this kind of thing. shakehead.gif who's organizer? rclxub.gif if really want to serious about this, then make a simple advertisement around or what, not cacat like this. tongue.gif and there's no other game like battlefield, team fortress or cod4? hmm.gif

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Ah. In a team, is it must ALL 5 is student or at least 1 team mate is a student?

ya lo. RM100 is too much for a student. ;p
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QUOTE(asepa @ Aug 9 2008, 02:04 PM)
Ah. In a team, is it must ALL 5 is student or at least 1 team mate is a student?

ya lo. RM100 is too much for a student. ;p
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opened to all now ;D

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IMPORTANT NOTICE: Sunway Cyber Games is now an OPEN competition. Anybody can join.

Registration fee :RM100(per team)
please contact Jason 0126996926 or pm Juz_mark for booking

Tournament dates : 6-7 Sept 9am team registration 10am game time

Time is running out so what are you waiting for. Register!


Added on August 10, 2008, 12:56 amOther games such as Counter Strike, COD4 are in consideration but if you would like to book a place please inform Juz_mark.

If there is a competition in that game we will put u guys in. aite?
so guys start getting as many people as you can. Its open now.

Advertising will begin shortly throughout the Subang area

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post Aug 10 2008, 02:19 AM

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woooooooooo great nowadays secondary cannot join any tournament=_=
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QUOTE(sKy-evisu.ApCL @ Aug 10 2008, 02:19 AM)
woooooooooo great nowadays secondary cannot join any tournament=_=
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can join ;D updated at first post
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okok reserve for team apcl plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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QUOTE(sKy-evisu.ApCL @ Aug 10 2008, 02:20 AM)
okok reserve for team apcl plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Sure.

Team reserved for Dota :
1.sss
2.Bkt
3.ApCL
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QUOTE(firesandz @ Aug 9 2008, 02:44 AM)
is that really true? even me who always come to rock cafe, play 5 hours a day also didn't know got this kind of thing.  shakehead.gif who's organizer?  rclxub.gif if really want to serious about this, then make a simple advertisement around or what, not cacat like this. tongue.gif and there's no other game like battlefield, team fortress or cod4? hmm.gif
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haha yeah , i also nvr heard of it until now... anyway i'll join as spectators tongue.gif
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lol spectator @.@ ..
ask assistance!! join xD .. advertisements and fliers will be up soon .
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actually i knew about this,but they said end of july..now mid of august already @@
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evisu,are u wearing specs? o_O
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Sorry for the lack of advertisement. We are currently having issues with the fliers and banners. However it will be completed shortly.

So now as word of mouth please spread the news and get more teams.
The more teams we have , the prize MIGHT be better wink.gif
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how much slot for dota?
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Bone -

rm20 per person

per team rm100


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no i'm not wearing spec @@



anyone can training tomorrow at sky online sunway rock cafe 7pm?? add pinkie_blueyi@hotmail.com for further details

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QUOTE(sKy-evisu.ApCL @ Aug 10 2008, 11:39 AM)
actually i knew about this,but they said end of july..now mid of august already @@
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This has nothing to do with 'them' .. This just rent the cc to us. They are not the one hosting . xD
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huh isee..meanwhile they didn't do anything at all=_=?and tell me end of july there are a tournament =_=??
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Everything has been updated, we hope there'll be better response to CallOfDuty4(COD4) and CounterStrike(CS1.6) cuz we are working hard to provide a platform for these games to be at the competition too..! oh and RM100 isnt too pricey considering the prizes up for grasp thumbup.gif
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There are alot of slots for DotA. However, we do wish to have more gamers attend the Counter Strike ( CS ) and Call of Duty 4 ( COD4 ) competitions.

Please note : COD4 / CS competitions might be held concurrently with the DotA competition.
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Hi, can u reserver a slot for WsS - Why so Serious. Tq.
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which game?
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Give me a Slot`
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QUOTE(sKy-evisu.ApCL @ Aug 10 2008, 02:20 AM)
okok reserve for team apcl plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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juz mark oso in ur team liao ..haha he sure knw reserve for apcl ler =D btw whats sss?
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Hey,

Please reserve for my team Kaos. Thanks
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have anyone from XEF reserve the slot for COD4? If u havent receive any application. Please reserve one slot for XEF. We will let u know if our 2nd team will be joining. We will email the form later
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reserve 1 slot for Fishnet team pls!!
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Reserve slot for S`rC BkT and BkT 2 pls
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who is bkt 2 ?
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Reserve slot for S`rC BkT and BkT 2 pls
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soh hing hong daidai ..who the hell is bkt 2?secret shit la
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For COD4 hope the tournament will using same format and rules like WCG2008 and SKOTH which is international format...
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Try 6.53?ACG and WCG Sg Open category played with 6.53 and it looks good.
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LOL even clanton and mickey also duno who are the "BKT2" xD
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QUOTE(sKy-evisu.ApCL @ Aug 11 2008, 12:40 PM)
LOL even clanton and mickey also duno who are the "BKT2" xD
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evisu u know ar ?

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On That day then everybody will know biggrin.gif
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lol i dunno,ask daidai la =D haha..
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Why u guys are so worry for a small thing? No matter who the members are wont affect your team also wat -.-
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Woo~ BKT is so famous now.... even got 2nd roster. =D
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Why u guys are so worry for a small thing? No matter who the members are wont affect your team also wat -.-
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not worry ..is dam curious ..ya no matter who is them doesnt affect my team ..but then wondering whose in the team 2..u r one of them in team 2?^^
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Reserve slot for Kaos.....
Thank q
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Reserve slot for Kaos.....
Thank q
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OI GAY SHOO ..tongue.gif ur team ad reserve slot ler
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Reserve slot for RvG in CoD4 pls tq
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Reserve slot for Kaos.....
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Guys i love the enthusiasm. So fyi mark, stellar and myself are the only ones taking reservations.

However please please state the game category u wish to join. i loove the teams.. i just dont know where to put u in :S


Added on August 11, 2008, 9:39 pmowhyea one more thing. teams that hand in registration forms through email will have to conduct WALK IN PAYMENT to any of the listed people wihtin 1 week of sending the registration form. Obviously.. we dont want FFK-ers biggrin.gif


Added on August 11, 2008, 10:13 pmPlease correct me if i am wrong guys

DotA teams (Reserved)
1. sss
2. Bkt
3. ApCL
4. WsS – Why so Serious
5. Kaos
6. Terminal 2
7. Fishnet
8. S`rC BkT
9. BkT 2


Call of Duty 4 (Reserved)
1. XEF
2. RvG


for the bkt and src bkt.. i have no idea if u guys are the same team. Any corrections or additions or misplaced reservations please inform us now thank you

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save slot for team fGm tq..
in the dota section =.=
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alrite. ugh im spamming this forum.. im so forgetful.

IMPORTANT NOTICE:

our host cafe, Sunway Rock Cafe has multiple rooms for a group of players. Because of this ,we have decided that the COD4 competition has 6 players per team

6 players per team. ty
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QUOTE(ToFuM|cZ[x�)
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not worry ..is dam curious ..ya no matter who is them doesnt affect my team ..but then wondering whose in the team 2..u r one of them in team 2?^^
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Please reserve for my team Penang Ice in DOTA section. Thanks....
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Please reserve for my team Penang Ice in DOTA section. Thanks....
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QUOTE(Juz_MaRk @ Aug 11 2008, 10:49 PM)
I already reserved for you inside my head.. You think i forgot ? haha
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QUOTE(OctoberRaz @ Aug 11 2008, 10:20 PM)
alrite. ugh im spamming this forum.. im so forgetful.

IMPORTANT NOTICE:

our host cafe, Sunway Rock Cafe has multiple rooms for a group of players. Because of this ,we have decided that the COD4 competition has 6 players per  team

6 players per team. ty
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6 Players playing at a time or 5 players playing with 1 as spare?
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QUOTE(OctoberRaz @ Aug 11 2008, 09:38 PM)
Guys i love the enthusiasm. So fyi  mark, stellar and myself are the only ones taking reservations.

However please please state the game category u wish to join. i loove the teams.. i just dont know where to put u in :S


Added on August 11, 2008, 9:39 pmowhyea one more thing. teams that hand in registration forms through email will have to conduct WALK IN PAYMENT to any  of the listed people wihtin 1 week of sending the registration form. Obviously.. we dont want FFK-ers biggrin.gif


Added on August 11, 2008, 10:13 pmPlease correct me if i am wrong guys

DotA teams (Reserved)
1. sss
2. Bkt
3. ApCL
4. WsS – Why so Serious
5. Kaos
6. Terminal 2
7. Fishnet
8. S`rC BkT
9. BkT 2
Call of Duty 4 (Reserved)
1. XEF
2. RvG
for the bkt and src bkt.. i have no idea if u guys are the same team. Any corrections or additions or misplaced reservations please inform us now thank you
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bkt n src bkt r not same team lar =.= lmao ..my leader say bkt is our team 2 ..src bkt is 1st team means my team ..he say reserve for bkt n src bkt then just reserved lor ...^^


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QUOTE(Juz_MaRk @ Aug 11 2008, 10:41 PM)
Wah how you know ?

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Just Joking, hehe.
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Added on August 11, 2008, 11:21 pmoh ya juz mark cancel the sss team reservation , they not coming d ..^^

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COD4 is usually 5v5... suddenly 6v6 memang cacat one..
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Newest Update : The Tournament is now OPENED to PUBLIC
Dear beloved gamers,

Good news ! Sunway University College will be hosting an inter-college cybergames tournament which will feature what we think are the three of the most popular games in Malaysia, Dota ( Defense of the Ancients ), COD4 ( Call Of Duty 4 ) and Cs ( Counter-Strike ). The details of this tourney are stated below :

Venue : Sunway Rock Cafe ( beside Sunway University College )
Date  : 6th - 7th September
Time  : 10am.
Players: OPEN TO PUBLIC
Deadline for registration : 31st of August ' national day.

*Players are expected to be here at 9am to register your team on that day.
*Teams that are interested can reserve your slots now !
*The tournament for Cs 1.6 and COD4 will only go on if there is at least 20 teams joining
Cs and Cod4 players, please reserve slots now so that the the number of teams are sufficent for the competitions .

Tournament prizes may increase if turnout rate is high ! What are you waiting for, register now !

Prizes for Dota.
1st - RM 1000 + Sponsors Products
2nd- RM 500 + Sponsors Products
3rd - RM 250 + Sponsors Products
Prizes for Cs.
1st - RM 800 + Sponsors Products
2nd- RM 400 + Sponsors Products
3rd - RM 200 + Sponsors Products
Prizes for COD4.
1st - RM 800 + Sponsors Products
2nd- RM 400 + Sponsors Products
3rd - RM 200 + Sponsors Products
Registration fees :
RM 100 For Dota , Rm 100 for Cs, Rm 100 for CoD4
To register :
1. Download registration form below, Dota And Counter-strike respectively
2. Complete the form and send to sunwaycybergames@gmail.com
To Pay registration fees :
1. Contact Jason Philip Tham, 012 699 6926 to arrange Walk In Payment at Sunway University College.
OR
2. Pay the fees directly at Sunway Rock Cafe. * registration forms will also be available at Sunway Rock Cafe shortly.
Registration Form :
Dota -Attached File  Dota_registration.doc ( 33.5k ) Number of downloads: 128

Cs -Attached File  Cs_registration.doc ( 34.5k ) Number of downloads: 32

Cod4 - Attached File  COD4_Registration.doc ( 34.5k ) Number of downloads: 111

Rules And Regulations for DotA :
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

Rules and regulations for Counter-Strike 1.6:
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

Rules and regulations for Cod4 :
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

Reserved slots for DotA :
1.sss ( UNITEN )
2.S`rC ApCL
3.WsS - Why so Serious
4.Terminal 2
5.Fishnet
6.GoV
7.S`rC Bkt
8.Bkt 2
9.Kaos
10.fGm
11.Ice
12.Cybertime E

Reserved slots for CoD4 :
1.XEF
2.RvG
3.seXer
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post Aug 12 2008, 08:13 AM

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siao liao 20 buck per person sia
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pokemon !
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6 Players playing at a time or 5 players playing with 1 as spare?
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can clarified this?
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i think got one sub just in case one ffk-er

but the reg fee a bit too costly la... normally RM50 per team. buit this 100 per team and the cash prizes a bit low.
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QUOTE(AeonStrife @ Aug 12 2008, 10:56 AM)
i think got one sub just in case one ffk-er

but the reg fee a bit too costly la... normally RM50 per team. buit this 100 per team and the cash prizes a bit low.
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Confirmation of Cod4 :
CoD4 is now 5v5 , with 1 reserve . sorry for the delay
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QUOTE(AeonStrife @ Aug 12 2008, 10:56 AM)
i think got one sub just in case one ffk-er

but the reg fee a bit too costly la... normally RM50 per team. buit this 100 per team and the cash prizes a bit low.
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The price is alright since RM100 is splited 5 ways but the Prizes has got to make up for it. Cause we still don't know what are these 'Sponsor Products'. Organizer, care to shed some light on the matter?

QUOTE(Juz_MaRk @ Aug 12 2008, 11:28 AM)
Confirmation of Cod4 :
CoD4 is now 5v5 , with 1 reserve . sorry for the delay
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K. Np
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EDIT: just saw the registration fee. is the RM100 for the whole team or each player?

Isn't the prize a little low for a RM100 reg fee tournament?

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Please save a slot for SWL.RvG and SWL.PeW for CoD4. =)
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wah so many pro team join =.= swt ...ice team come from so far to take rm1k nia ..lmao
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All reservations will be handled by mark. ty.
All collection of fees will be handled by the 3 of us listed in the registration forms.
Updates in this forum will solely be handled by mark so as to reduce confusion. or miscommunication
Remember guys ALL payments MUST be settled before 31st August.
As for the prize rest assure we will discuss this matter and come up with a decision shortly.

Thanks for all the patience. Now look out for updates from Juz_MaRk
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Hope more sponsors will announce thier drool.gif prizes. This in turn will make the participants drool.gif and eager to join.

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Just wondering hav you guys organised other gaming competitions before? If yes wut tourneys?

Thx thx.
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QUOTE(OctoberRaz @ Aug 11 2008, 09:38 PM)
Guys i love the enthusiasm. So fyi  mark, stellar and myself are the only ones taking reservations.

However please please state the game category u wish to join. i loove the teams.. i just dont know where to put u in :S


Added on August 11, 2008, 9:39 pmowhyea one more thing. teams that hand in registration forms through email will have to conduct WALK IN PAYMENT to any  of the listed people wihtin 1 week of sending the registration form. Obviously.. we dont want FFK-ers biggrin.gif


Added on August 11, 2008, 10:13 pmPlease correct me if i am wrong guys

DotA teams (Reserved)
1. sss
2. Bkt
3. ApCL
4. WsS – Why so Serious
5. Kaos
6. Terminal 2
7. Fishnet
8. S`rC BkT
9. BkT 2
Call of Duty 4 (Reserved)
1. XEF
2. RvG
for the bkt and src bkt.. i have no idea if u guys are the same team. Any corrections or additions or misplaced reservations please inform us now thank you
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Zzzz.......Bkt and SrcBkt is same........then bkt2 is another team
So total bkt got 2 team only = =


Added on August 12, 2008, 7:08 pm
QUOTE(Ice-SeaNz` @ Aug 11 2008, 10:48 PM)
Please reserve for my team Penang Ice in DOTA section. Thanks....
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Oh~~~~~~Penang Ice give up SMM Penang!!!!!XD

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HI EVISU!!
DO YOU LIKE MILO?!
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lol tks tsk guys zephrus is one of the organizing committee. ignore him please biggrin.gif.

There is a first for everything.
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HI EVISU!!
DO YOU LIKE MILO?!
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evisu dont like milo ..evisu like MILK!!!


Added on August 12, 2008, 9:28 pm
QUOTE(phatzam @ Aug 12 2008, 03:14 AM)

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WAD IS SSS ( UNITEN ) "??

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sss is a uniten team. uniten is a college /univeristy i think
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reserve 1 slot for space jam pls tongue.gif
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sss is a uniten team. uniten is a college /univeristy i think
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oo but then they still reserve meh? ytd one of the member dunu why personal send msg to me say cancel their sss reserve slot ..say not coming o.o
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Reserve one slot for [seXer] Team Orion for cod 4....i think phatzam mite already post it but just to reconfirm....thanks
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one slot for RnF for cod4
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ooo i see. forward it to mark then the msg. hes in charge of the reservations. biggrin.gif

im handling registration and fee collection. so ill be your loan shark
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can i join ??
i wan to join COD4...

anyway WCG is next few days...
and it dose not have COD4 in it... lol

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QUOTE(OctoberRaz @ Aug 13 2008, 09:11 PM)
ooo i see. forward it to mark then the msg. hes in charge of the reservations. biggrin.gif

im handling registration and fee collection. so ill be your loan shark
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p/s: oppsss spam sorry.. XEF is looking forward to send another team to this tourney. Will confirm asap

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QUOTE(general_odin @ Aug 13 2008, 11:33 PM)
can i join ??
i wan to join COD4...

anyway WCG is next few days...
and it dose not have COD4 in it... lol
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thn quickly form up a team and reserve ur slots =x
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FFF goin to sent three team .... plz reserve our slot in cod4 section ... ( p.s. we wont ffk)


p.s edit ...

thanx grr ... ( damn, i gonna shot wif headshot after this)

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How do you 'reverse' slots. =P Hahah, long time no see mesti ejek sikit.
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Grr u cumming for this tourney?

send in 2 teams tongue.gif
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Haha, I posted on the previous page. Booked slot for two teams. =)
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QUOTE(OctoberRaz @ Aug 12 2008, 05:53 PM)
All reservations will be handled by mark. ty.
All collection of fees will be handled by the 3 of us listed in the registration forms.
Updates in this forum will solely be handled by mark so as to reduce confusion. or miscommunication
Remember guys ALL payments MUST be settled before 31st August.
As for the prize rest assure we will discuss this matter and come up with a decision shortly.

Thanks for all the patience. Now look out for updates from Juz_MaRk
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welll RM 100 per team with cash of 800 and sponsored by RAZER / Saitek then i dun mind tongue.gif

buahahahaha


k enuff jokes. update reserve slots for COD4

SWL.RVG
SWL.

and remove the current RvG from the list
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just post ur team name and what game category you wish to join.

Kind Reminder. To all the teams that have registered please pay and submit your form and registration fees before 31st August 2008!. Ty.

fyi for those cod4 players. keep logging in to low yat for the most recent updates. yes you heard right. there might be something new / different.
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SWL.RvG
SWL.PeW

for CoD4

Also, please don't change the rules at the last minute. x_x Thanks. =)

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yea... no last minute changes plx. i'll get someone to become " The Tounament Crashers" LAWL!
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reserved 1 slot for JEDI. hmm, someone pls update @ first thread?

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Teams that reserve slots please register as fast as possible, slots are limited ..

and i will update all the information at the first post this saturday..

Newest Update : Cod4 competition will have 2 categories, one for team match, another for Free For All ( FFA).. The details of the competition will be updated latest saturday .. thanks !
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yes yes. hope to see all of u guys there biggrin.gif

Can players from team match also join the FFA category?

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was wondering the same thing =D
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Teams that reserve slots please register as fast as possible, slots are limited ..

and i will update all the information at the first post this saturday..

Newest Update : Cod4 competition will have 2 categories, one for team match, another for Free For All ( FFA).. The details of the competition will be updated latest saturday .. thanks !
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nicee! FFA... limit to how many person? XEF will register by next week..
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Most likely, XEF will send 2 teams.
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QUOTE(Juz_MaRk @ Aug 15 2008, 09:57 AM)
Teams that reserve slots please register as fast as possible, slots are limited ..

and i will update all the information at the first post this saturday..

Newest Update : Cod4 competition will have 2 categories, one for team match, another for Free For All ( FFA).. The details of the competition will be updated latest saturday .. thanks !
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if i wan join both of the categories can?

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is 2 catagories need to register 2 times?
and the reg fee how??
very confusing sia on the planning. cuz now got 2 catagories. that means got 2 prizes for 2 catagories?
can the same rm 100 reg fee be applied to the FFA catagory?
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RM100 per person.. hmmm i need to think twice about FFA.. anyway. How bout the rules? Is it true we r going to play using pam4 or we stick to new era cnp r&r?
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jz sent a registration form for JEDI.....
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the prize , registration fee have not been set. however you do have to register twice. we might have COD4 TEAM and COD4 FFA on seperate dates so feel free to join. but for now NO RESERVATIONS FOR COD4 FFA. this is because we have a limited number of seats available. will update again soon on saturday.

And most definately the fees wont be RM100.
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XxX for cod4....put us on the reserver slot!!!!!!
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of course johan.. lol. pay up before 31st august and send in regi form to me or lim
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ESP <aXe> has confirmed and is attending the tournament!!!!!

[ESP].Quack* will most probably join the FFA challenge happy.gif
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reserve slot for team AiyaK (dota)

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CoD4 competition reserve for LuLz biggrin.gif
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ESP <aXe> has confirmed and is attending the tournament!!!!!

[ESP].Quack* will most probably join the FFA challenge happy.gif
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oi WIN FOR ESP MAN GOOD LUCK BUDDY!!!!KNN TOO BAD I CANT PLAY i got exams to bz lol
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the FFA is single player fyi. the registrations fees will 100% be lower than the rm 100 lol. prizes will be announced in due time.


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question, attachment like acog cannot meh?

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FFA registration for COD 4 is now open for reservations. to those who want to register please post ur SCREEN NAME here. thank you.


Added on August 16, 2008, 3:09 pmur question. acog yes grenade launcher nope

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QUOTE(EzPeaceZ @ Aug 14 2008, 10:32 PM)
reserved 1 slot for JEDI. hmm, someone pls update @ first thread?
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QUOTE(EzPeaceZ @ Aug 15 2008, 10:01 AM)
yes yes. hope to see all of u guys there  biggrin.gif

Can players from team match also join the FFA category?
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Sure !! THe times do not clash, ffa is held in the morning, team match at noon. 12pm

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nicee! FFA... limit to how many person? XEF will register by next week..
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36 players ! register fast .. biggrin.gif

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if i wan join both of the categories can?
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OF course.

QUOTE(AeonStrife @ Aug 15 2008, 02:47 PM)
is 2 catagories need to register 2 times?
and the reg fee how??
very confusing sia on the planning. cuz now got 2 catagories. that means got 2 prizes for 2 catagories?
can the same rm 100 reg fee be applied to the FFA catagory?
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Rm 50 for ffa
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ESP.<wOw>

-cod4

Just book it for the moment.

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QUOTE(OctoberRaz @ Aug 16 2008, 03:08 PM)
FFA registration for COD 4 is now open for reservations. to those who want to register please post ur SCREEN NAME here. thank you.


Added on August 16, 2008, 3:09 pmur question. acog yes grenade launcher nope
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Yes how much is it to enter the FFA challenge please? Wait so its 100 RM for the COD4 5v5 challenge. And its RM50 FOR A SINGLE PERSON for the COD4 FFA challenge?



I wanna join the FFA challenge but im not sure how much is it =P. Tell me how much im suppose to pay if i wanna enter both challenges please smile.gif

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ESP.<wOw>

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oi WIN FOR ESP MAN GOOD LUCK BUDDY!!!!KNN TOO BAD I CANT PLAY i got exams to bz lol
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RM50 for FFA? Gulp..
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You get a 600% profit when u get champion rclxms.gif
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Reserve slot for DNA-SK pls. Thx smile.gif
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R&R for the FFA?
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QUOTE([ESP�)
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R&R for the FFA?
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Rules & Regulations
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If you are joining the teammatch for cod4, it would be RM100 per TEAM

Let's say you are interested to join the FFA category also, then you will have to pay RM50 per PLAYER to enter. cool2.gif


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No no no,

By Rules & Regulations, I mean what perks-weapons-attachments, are disallowed?
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does the organiser want to use the wcg ruleset/promod which is closer to the current international standard?
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WHAT MOD ARE YOU GUYS USING FOR THE COD4 CHALLENGE???? PAM4 mod, PROMOD, Mod warfare or what?

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look @ the current ruleset, is taken from samsung king of the hill one. it should be the edited pam4skoth mod. I thinking we should use the wcg ruleset which is closer to promod but we can edit it to remove the sniper fix to make it cod-ish
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jeez perk1 onli bandolier??
SnD with no claymore n c4 ><
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why prizes so lousy for CoD4 one? haiz...reserve one slot for CoD4 la...
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QUOTE(marvintwj @ Aug 16 2008, 11:37 PM)
why prizes so lousy for CoD4 one? haiz...reserve one slot for CoD4 la...
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icon_question.gif Just want some clarifications on the R & R for COD 4 5v5. Abit blur about some parts. rclxub.gif

1. S&D is played on all 5 maps correct?
2. Perks can only be chosen from the ones provided in the list is it?
3. Most weapons such as the LMG class, almost all the sniper weapon class and stun grenades are not allowed?
4. What do you mean by the game format stating "Players are not allowed to load their own classes."?
5. Lastly, when will single elimination be played?

That is all Ty.

p.s. reserve a COD 4 team slot for [PAR]. Will send in registration once the questions are answered so i can explain to my team mates. chillio icon_rolleyes.gif

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humm, y must follow international, we got our own cod community ... we already agreed to follow the last competition rule from new era .... match wif register fees ... it's not worthed to play only snd .... organizer, plz consider it again ....

i think most of msia cod4 clan .... already familiar wif msian standard rules ....

ps.... this is not cs .... wat is cod4 without stunt, c4, clamore,

no hq, no domination, no tdm,
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i just suggesting cos from the looks of the new ruleset is adapting the international ruleset so i just gave the updated stuff. Sorry if i offended anyone with that comment.

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yes, the Malaysian COD4 community has their own rules set but i believe to bring our local scene to the level of teams like from Singapore and even Indonesia, we need to start adapting to the international rules set..


local scene can only go so far..
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Every one has their own set of rules. If I wanted to make my own tournament, I could have a Sabotage game and all knife only! New Era finalised the R&Rs of their own future tournaments. This tournament isn't organized by New Era.

BUT, if somebody has already paid and then a changein the R&R was made, I think the team who has paid should be given the chance for a refund or proceed. Their choice.



Organizers,
Please finalize the R&R for the Call of Duty 4- Free For All tournament. Thank you.
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No CS team playing ?
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Errm.... which DotA version will be used? 6.52e, 6.53 or 6.54b?
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QUOTE(EzPeaceZ @ Aug 17 2008, 04:29 AM)
i just suggesting cos from the looks of the new ruleset is adapting the international ruleset so i just gave the updated stuff. Sorry if i offended anyone with that comment.
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Agree. We should play with international rule set. Even the coming WGT the rules almost the same. Malaysia WGT, Singapore WGT and Indonesia WGT using the same R&R.
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the only i feel sad about malaysia COD4 tournaments
it's because they don't have the fixed rules
keep changing from time to another
it's hard to concentrate
why not just pakai pam4 mod
just follow the international standard lah
seriously...for me TDM is just for fun
SND is the best mode for tournament

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walaneh...i just read the rules....srsly, what do you want me to use??

perk 1 is 100% bandy edi...why cannot use claymores or c4? without clays and c4, bomb squad auto-negates, so we only can use bandy? but srsly, why would i need 180 bullets in SnD ? too many do's and dont's, im not sure if i breathe also can or not.

weapons also limited, perks lagi limited, mode no choice. registration very expensive relative to prizes given....

and i must add, Sky is a horrible place to have a competition. Yes, you can replace mouse and keyboard with ur own....but the screen? too small. CPU - too laggy, graphics not good.
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Added on August 17, 2008, 9:32 am
QUOTE(marvintwj @ Aug 17 2008, 09:28 AM)
walaneh...i just read the rules....srsly, what do you want me to use??

perk 1 is 100% bandy edi...why cannot use claymores or c4? without clays and c4, bomb squad auto-negates, so we only can use bandy? but srsly, why would i need 180 bullets in SnD ? too many do's and dont's, im not sure if i breathe also can or not.

weapons also limited, perks lagi limited, mode no choice. registration very expensive relative to prizes given....

and i must add, Sky is a horrible place to have a competition. Yes, you can replace mouse and keyboard with ur own....but the screen? too small. CPU - too laggy, graphics not good.
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Adapt to the international rule set. Many teams are prefer international rule set too. The registration fees not RM 100 per team as mentioned by the organizer in the previous page. The venue is not at Sky. It's at Sunway Rock Cafe.

So far 16 teams already booked their place for CoD4.

3 teams still pending waiting for confirmation from their boss.

Reserved slots for CoD4 :
1. [XEF] ALPHA
2. [XEF] BRAVO
3. C.E.R.T.
4. [FFF] Rangers
5. [FFF] Elites
6. [FFF] Recon
7. [seXer] Team Orion
8. JEDI
9. RnF
10. SWL.RvG
11. SWL.PeW
12. XxX
13. ESP <aXe>
14. Lulz
15. ESP.<wow>
16. MBT.Light

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its always better to have a fixed ruleset that is used internationally.
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yea yea...the place above Medan la..dont really know the name...i know got one S in it la..so i tembaked sky..heh
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QUOTE(amakor aka mama @ Aug 17 2008, 02:59 AM)
icon_question.gif Just want some clarifications on the R & R for COD 4 5v5. Abit blur about some parts.  rclxub.gif

1. S&D is played on all 5 maps correct?
2. Perks can only be chosen from the ones provided in the list is it?
3. Most weapons such as the LMG class, almost all the sniper weapon class and stun grenades are not allowed?
4. What do you mean by the game format stating "Players are not allowed to load their own classes."?
5. Lastly, when will single elimination be played?

That is all Ty.

p.s. reserve a COD 4 team slot for [PAR]. Will send in registration once the questions are answered so i can explain to my team mates. chillio  icon_rolleyes.gif
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yea, all 5 maps .
yes.
yes, not allowed.
4th question will be answered later, getting confirmation from the proffesional people. ;D chill.
There will be no group stages, single elimination all the way..

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QUOTE(Juz_MaRk @ Aug 17 2008, 02:00 PM)
yea, all 5 maps .
yes.
yes, not allowed.
4th question will be answered later, getting confirmation from the proffesional people. ;D chill.
There will be no group stages, single elimination all the way..
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if u dun mind i can help out in answering that. If u guys were to use the pam4mod. u do not have to load ur own custom kits cus u can customise ur kit @ any pt of the game.
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QUOTE(EzPeaceZ @ Aug 17 2008, 01:07 PM)
if u dun mind i can help out in answering that. If u guys were to use the pam4mod. u do not have to load ur own custom kits cus u can customise ur kit @ any pt of the game.
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yes, to get used to pam4 mod, u guys can join local CERT server, ip available at the COD4 thread at Gamers Hideout section of this forum.

their version of Pam4 is not optimised* for the current rules, but it will give u guys the general idea on what Pam4 is

i think the Jedi server and a few other SG server are running this as well
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QUOTE(james2306 @ Aug 17 2008, 03:03 PM)
yes, to get used to pam4 mod, u guys can join local CERT server, ip available at the COD4 thread at Gamers Hideout section of this forum.

their version of Pam4 is not optimised* for the current rules, but it will give u guys the general idea on what Pam4 is

i think the Jedi server and a few other SG server are running this as well
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yeap, JEDI is running on pam4wcg ruleset.

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basically, is about the same as the current rule set except


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omfg FFA 50 bucks per person????
this is not a tournament.... 36 players with rm 50 each =.=!!!

RM 1800 collected from FFA only =.+!


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QUOTE(Juz_MaRk @ Aug 16 2008, 04:32 PM)
You get a 600% profit when u get champion  rclxms.gif
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seriously i think rm 50 is too much per player while 100 only for s&d....
lower down the limit la. not all ppl wan to fork out rm 50 and lose the first round rite?

at least 100 for s&d still considerable as per player pay only 20 and still get a chance to win cuz of good teamwork.

i strongly disagree on the ffa for rm 50

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hello to all
1st of all i wanna say is CALL Of duty is special bcoz they got PERKS!
if the organizer wanna banned so many perks..i dont think they need to organize COD4 tourney..just organize normal Counter Strike source.

infinity wards programmers spend days months and years to make cod4 special.and our hardisk eat up to 4.7gb just for call of duty4 folder.

no claymore?no uav?no bombsquad? give me a break!!
whats this?counter strike tourney? i dont care if the rules said they only banned matyr,p90 and tube..but most of the perks and all perks 1 except bandolier?and its in snd normal??that is soooo not realistic.

well i got a video that can remind u guys what call of duty 4 is..



i think there is no need for malaysian gaming community so eager to follow international rules since our gaming community is soo small and our standard is beyond reach..think logic.
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totally agree with codfreako. you are taking out the uniqueness and dynamics in the game "to balance" it?

im quite sure the perks are well balanced as they are already, other then tubes. i srsly might as well play CS if this is the way its gonna be. besides, with additional perks, the gameplay will be nicer to watch, more enthralling. cannot do this, that everything, its just CS with nicer graphics. please follow the blitzone tournament style, it was fair, fun and balanced.

this one stun grenade also cannot, 2 days later flash grenade banned...throw smoke, com lags. weapons so limited, i might as well use knife pistol. perk 1 only bandy....who needs 210 bullets? wanna do wat with so many bullets? claymores and c4 adds a new dimension to the game and map. 4 ways into the map, maybe 3 claymored? which way to go? now u take out clays, i close eyes walk in also can rite? bang something, then knife la.

and yea, fees damn expensive. ffa 50 a person? yea i know can make 600% if first prize, but when the pot is RM1800, RM300 only makes up 1/6 of the pot. thats really poor pot odds.
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Man, that vid never cease to amaze me.
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Dear organizers, can you guys please lower the RM50 for the COD4 FFA challenge, its just too much for a person. Make it RM10 or at least RM20......50 bucks per person is just cruel =P
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lol

so many ppl complaining abt the rules..

its up to organizer ma, set their own rules, set their own fees...
we got the option if to join or not lo
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yea, i also want to join FFA but not for RM50 tongue.gif
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cause its not split pot 50-30-20. yes organizer also need to make money, understand.

but u make half the pot, abit too much lor. RM900 is alot whey...even if u wanna charge 50 per person...divide pot la...

1st prize - 40%
2nd prize - 25%
3rd prize - 15%
20% organizer take...or wtv way u wanna divide la...but 1/2 for urself, too much

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seriously this new rules are stupid. if u wanna make this rule make 2 CS competition. u do not understand y we quit play CS n move on to COD4. COD is special, all codfreako and marvintwj ( thanks for explanation, n nice vids btw XD ) said. i dont care if JEDI server using this mod, but we expect to have a normal rule like Blitzone tournie before. it's the most reasonable rules compared to this S&D rules for RM100, what the ****? it's lame! doh.gif shakehead.gif rclxub.gif yawn.gif please consider it.

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hmmmph ...

seem likes many people have to complaint to COD4 R&R and registration fees !

very hot bout this Tournament topic and Discussion title ` rclxms.gif

i guess organizer need to pass up further information to cool down our passion player ` hmm.gif

i believed that organizer will consider to all information ,suggestions ,feedback ,and commitment ...etc given by those gamer's

don't keep ' spit ' first `

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i really wana stress on the part whr thr are so many restrictions on cod4 snd...

snd is meant to be played using strategy, not allowing us to use c4,claymore,bomb squad, mount on mg, usage of lmg, uav jammer,uav's and many others is just well...it sux...

y dun u organizers try n play SnD with the restrictions n ull see y its not so far different than cs
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omg seriously, the ffa is rm50 per person! grumble.gif

R they tryin to dig gold from us? -.- and first price is rm300. seriously.
lets say max ppl is 30.

30x rm50 = rm1500

and first price is rm300! u got to be kidding me. this is ridiculous. no offence. ACGC was FOC.

well i dont noe bout u james if u got all d money to join but personally for me, im not much of a rich guy. competitions like these definitely attracts alot of people's attention. but i haf to agree with marvin. Its very obvious wat the organizers r doing. but on 2nd hand, rules and reg its fine by me. EZ PEACE I SECOND UR IDEA ON CHANGING SNIPER! rawrrr. but I prefer our originality from the blitzone torney whereby all leaders from COD4 clan came and discuss on how we set our rules and reg b4 we start to follow Europeans. y not make the Europeans follow our trend instead? Pam4 / promod makes cod4 exactly like cs. So what difference does it shows compare to both Cod 4 and CS? Let us malaysians be special our own ways and we'll see how other countries adapt to OUR rules and reg.

Im hereby not offending anybody or anyone, but just speaking my mind. If i ever do offended anyone, my apologize to u first. but this is my honest opinion. I may be a nobody but at least its worth sharing. To the organizers, i hold no grudges against u but pls consider on changing a few things on registration. For rules and reg, im all for it.

kthxbai.

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Lets have Asian Rules!

1) I agree that the international rules makes CoD4 similar to CS.

2) I agree that somethings are needed to be removed from SnD mode.
-Some Perks -Attachments -Weapons

3) I disagree that C4, Claymore, Bomb Squad, UAV Jammer, etc negates the need for strategy play.
-With C4 & Claymores, there has to be a player with Bomb Squad in the team and he is needed to relay msges to his teammates and move with caution.
-With Jammer, he becomes the team's recon squad. Less Firepower, more on flanking.
-etc etc

4) We don't have to follow anybody's rules. Organizers, don't be pressured to use a specific rule. It just takes out the differences CoD4 has to offer. We wouldn't have Knife matches in SKOTH if we just followed plain international rules right?

5) RM50 per person is too much considering the winning prize is so little. Organizers, when you say 'Sponsor Products', what are they exactly?
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QUOTE(affr0boy @ Aug 17 2008, 04:17 PM)
omg seriously, the ffa is rm50 per person!  grumble.gif

R they tryin to dig gold from us? -.- and first price is rm300. seriously.
lets say max ppl is 30.

30x rm50 = rm1500

and first price is rm300! u got to be kidding me. this is ridiculous. no offence. ACGC was FOC.

well i dont noe bout u james if u got all d money to join but personally for me, im not much of a rich guy. competitions like these definitely attracts alot of people's attention. but i haf to agree with marvin. Its very obvious wat the organizers r doing. but on 2nd hand, rules and reg its fine by me. EZ PEACE I SECOND UR IDEA ON CHANGING SNIPER! rawrrr. but I prefer our originality from the blitzone torney whereby all leaders from COD4 clan came and discuss on how we set our rules and reg b4 we start to follow Europeans. y not make the Europeans follow our trend instead? Pam4 / promod makes cod4 exactly like cs. So what difference does it shows compare to both Cod 4 and CS? Let us malaysians be special our own ways and we'll see how other countries adapt to OUR rules and reg.

Im hereby not offending anybody or anyone, but just speaking my mind. If i ever do offended anyone, my apologize to u first. but this is my honest opinion. I may be a nobody but at least its worth sharing. To the organizers, i hold no grudges against u but pls consider on changing a few things on registration. For rules and reg, im all for it.

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lolx.. i DON'T have all the money in the world to pay such high fees.. certainly not gonna pay rm50 for FFA, i doubt only a few people are gonna join it with such a high fee

im just saying its the organizers event and they have the right to set their rules, fees.. they might have other overheads to cover thats why they are charging so high

but it would be nice if organizers heed the feedback form forumers here notworthy.gif

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the stupid organizers are not yet come to cc, so wait arh, maybe i scold them first then u guys can flame them, k? rclxms.gif
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lol james! hahaha. but its gonna be surprising if u see loads of participants joining ffa! rm50! ouch... lolssss sweat.gif
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I will have a little say about the mods and all, please dun get offended. Im speaking strictly from my personal point of view and not representing my team/country.

Basically why is there so many mods try to make game closer to cs the purpose is to attract competitive cs player over to a similar kind of platform and just replace cs with cod4. Also to have all the players to be playing on the same level with no perks/attachments avantage, purely fight it out with tactical sense, teamwork and skill level.

The reason why SG community is following the international ruleset is probably becos if u have own local community ruleset it will be appealing to your own community since the community decide on it. If u wan to attract foreign teams or play in an international competitions u/foreign teams will be @ a disadvantage since u are not familiar with the ruleset hence they will have no interests in joining as well. Main part of it is also becus singapore cod4 community is small so we need to attract nearby teams to support the competitions as well.

Just some personal opinion from my point of view.

and Nobie, i also agree we should remove sniper fix!!! and also add back the fog in promod!!!

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yessss ezpeeaceeee im nobie not noobie. hahaha. YEsssss change the sniper fix!! rawr..
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lol stop spamming here guys..

lets wait for a reply from organizers
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yes organizers! all of us are anxiously waiting for prosperous responses =). No pressure =P
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we are taking a long time to respond because the questions keep coming in. We will discuss these matters:
1. The RM 50 fee for COD4FFA
2. The R&R


IF there is anything more you wish to add please add it now and not later so adjustments and etc etc can be made... i will leave this topic open until monday morning.

Please voice out your opinions now. Thank you.


Added on August 17, 2008, 5:34 pmowh yea we arent at the cc cus we are on holiday wink.gif

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wanna watch kev team replays , fast win a champion come back noob kev laugh.gif

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QUOTE(Shawn`KH @ Aug 17 2008, 04:06 PM)
hmmmph ...

seem likes many people have to complaint to COD4 R&R and registration fees !

very hot bout this Tournament topic and Discussion title `  rclxms.gif

i guess organizer need to pass up further information to cool down our passion player `  hmm.gif 

i believed that organizer will consider to all information ,suggestions ,feedback ,and commitment ...etc given by those gamer's

don't keep  ' spit ' first `

Gambateh Kudasai     
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all dota player also come complain DOta registration fees!!!!!!
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nw still got slot for dota ? hmm.gif
if got , Reserve 1 slot for my team doh.gif

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I will have a little say about the mods and all, please dun get offended. Im speaking strictly from my personal point of view and not representing my team/country.

Basically why is there so many mods try to make game closer to cs the purpose is to attract competitive cs player over to a similar kind of platform and just replace cs with cod4. Also to have all the players to be playing on the same level with no perks/attachments avantage, purely fight it out with tactical sense, teamwork and skill level.

The reason why SG community is following the international ruleset is probably becos if u have own local community ruleset it will be appealing to your own community since the community decide on it. If u wan to attract foreign teams or play in an international competitions u/foreign teams will be @ a disadvantage since u are not familiar with the ruleset hence they will have no interests in joining as well. Main part of it is also becus singapore cod4 community is small so we need to attract nearby teams to support the competitions as well.

Just some personal opinion from my point of view.

and Nobie, i also agree we should remove sniper fix!!! and also add back the fog in promod!!!



Why do you want to make CoD4 like CS? they are 2 different games, if you want to attract CS gamers, attract them with the uniqueness of CoD4, or else we might else play CS source. Dont you think its abit boring, playing every game like CS? imagine playing any multiplayer FPS like CS. Boring ??
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there's no need to discuss about, just ******* change the ******* R&R, use yr brain la, if wan to closer to cs just make 2 competitions for cs, u're spoiler of COD4, no offence, it's just what alot of ppl say about tis R&R.
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now now,lets not get too angry bout this. he's just voicing out his opinion on the international rules. Anyway rules and reg is set by majority so this is how much we can say.

international rules or malaysian rules, a good player nvr complains about it but just adapt to it and be the best of it.


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k sorry boss. i just too angry about this, how come from cod change to cs? we're already prepared for the tournie but suddenly changed like this, of course we're angry. we're all still newbie, this is our first competition, so we do not want this competition make a bad impression from us toward cod tournies. that's all...
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I understand how you all feel. I myself am not a COD4 player. Actually fyi im a starcraft player. But i have COD4 players in the organising committee. we will come up with a decision and let all of you know. please be patient with us as we too have other problems on our hands.

Thank you
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i already said tat is my point of view about rulesets i wasnt pushing for either ruleset and saying from a neutral point of view about the international ruleset, what is with the offensive reaction.

Whichever ruleset that will be implemented, let's enjoy and make this tournament a fun and sucessful one so the other organisers can notice cod4 and host even more tournament for the community. Let's not get too upset about it.
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its alright.. its all calm here. voice out your opinions. let me hear. especially me. i want to hear wat u all think . because we are catering to all of you and we want to do wats best to satisfy most of all of you.

owh yea there are still slots for dota you can register but please post ur team name in here.

could you guys specifically tell me what you dislike of the RnR. and i mean specifically.


Added on August 17, 2008, 8:11 pmand your reasons why u disagree with it as well. it will help me alot in the decision making on monday

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i dislike bout cannot use uav in snd and i dislike bout cannot use explosive material..such as claymore and C4. and i dislike cos its not in hardcore mode..
the reason : 2 tourney alrdy been held and it using custom rules..so we alrdy trained to use certain perks and some of us most pro in plating c4 and claymore on certain places. i bet some ppl spending more than 5 hours per day training their sniping skills with no sniper fix..so its unfair if u guys using promod in this tourney.

i kept wondering..why international tourney use this rules????? attract more cs player to cod? what are they trying to prove?
call of duty is call of duty..and counter strike is counter strike...
why cant we change rules in battlefield 2142 and make it looks like cs??cannot?why?dont take the uniqueness of cod4 from it.
think logic.

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If u wish to seek further assistance regarding Cod4, u can always speak to my leader, brian which is also the founders of ESP. He has most experience when it comes to rules and reg and i haf no doubts in my suggestion. Most of you guys in the msia cod4 community shud know who he is rite? biggrin.gif so if there's anything you guys need to seek for advice, im very sure he'll be please to help. biggrin.gif

As for me personally, i've played both international rules and malaysian rules and i'm alrite with the rules and reg. But in international rules and reg, there's no gun sway which makes it imbalance whereby the origin of the game is taken away. Cod4 shows a more realistic game play and creates a war-like view.

Not tryin to be one-sided but Cod4 is more realistic whereby guns actually recoil and as for snipers the gun sways. taking away the gun sway enables players to aim easily. for example, snipers has to hold their breathe to focus their aim. but they cant hold it forever which actually forces the sniper to catch their breathe and then do the same. a realistic game.

As u have seen, most players do not agree to the international rules bcos it takes the game play away out of Cod4. For instance,
Perk 1 : Bomb squad, 3x frag, 3x special grenade, RPG, C4, claymores, Bandolier.

As it is, rules said we're only allowed to have Bandolier alone. Meaning just more bullets. 3x frags, and 3x special grenades, i understand why we ban it bcos of players abusing it. but why ban RPG, C4 and Claymores? this 3 perks actually takes skills to use it.

Players have to think twice while playing on moving to certain areas whereby claymores have been planted or C4 is pasted on the wall.
It creates a different gameplay than just a normal FPS game.

Having a SnD game only is just like another CS game-like format. The last time b4 u guys changed the rules and reg, there was still 4 maps to play.

Bloc - Domination
Backlot- SnD (hardcore)
Overgrown- Headquarters
Crash- TDM

These game play basically makes Cod4 more interesting, whereby in Bloc,teams requires teamwork to work together to capture 3 flags in order to gain more points. For those who r new, do watch blitzone's replays on domination. its pretty interesting if u guys watch it.

As for SnD in backlot which is hardcore, also requires teamwork, and based-instinct. There's no mini map to see and it only takes 1 shot to kill. Realistic and yet tactical. Player killing 3 opponents enable them to have an advantage of using the UAV revealing opponents position. this makes the game exciting yet challenging.

As for the rest, im kinda getting tired to write all these but i come to a conclusion, i would like to see our old rules back again. And i would like to see foreign countries using our rules & reg to compete. Its something new thus exciting.

to those who noes me, sori im dead bored at home but to write this. pls dun kill me. lols.

Kthxbai!
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yea i agree with affroboy
its simple.just use our own malaysian custom rules!
no need to follow international.
we malaysian have our very own culture!

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Ladies and Gentlemen,

I would like to say something before all these things get out of hand. Firstly, if most of you remember, the rule set made in malaysia was FOR the malaysian community. It was agreed upon by numerous team leaders, not only myself, together with NewEra Malaysia to provide these rules, apply them in all upcoming local competition as a promotion to the game. We all agreed that day, that focusing on 1 game mode will kill the game, not only that, it will kill CS 1.6, which NewEra, WCG, WGT and ESWC still currently run.

Unlike singapore, the CALL OF DUTY 4 : Modern Warfare clans here are much larger. This creates a bigger gaming industry in Malaysia and i hope it will not consist of the same group of people when COD4 eventually dies out.

I helped create this community for them to be closer, heard and also allow them to play with the rules they are comfortable with. This also helps promote the game, its uniqueness and its system without limiting the game's system too much. There ARE no international rules, simply because there hasn't been an International competition, WGT is the closest we can get so far, with the Regionals & Leagues i am planning soon, we might go big. But remember that WGT is local, regardless. The reason why they use the WCG ruleset (which will be modified soon) is because they want to have a good reference for their sponsors, Intel & ASUS. The same reason why organizers f*** up the communities.

I must stress that the reason we dont use international rules is because there isn't one. Secondly, we don't need to pull players from CS, thirdly I dont WANT to. [ESP] supports gaming, that is why we try very hard not to pull players away from their games in turn, we gain their support whenever there is need for it. In order for the gaming industry to grow, there needs to be coherent support from each game, clan and community, so that sponsors and companies will be more supportive and understanding of our stature.

I want the current clans to be stronger without the need of international support but at the same time aid those countries that have limited teams.
In all honesty, i didn't like the WCG Singapore rules due to the fact that it is too close to other games, it might either kill the other games or vice versa. The core groups who played COD4 for the current rules may leave to newer games because of it and CS clans might come over, killing CS in the process.

Before applying the rulesets, please think about the future of the INDUSTRY, not the game, not your company, not your competition. THe rule set in singapore also makes it longer for games to complete, giving you time constraints as a organizer. Normal Malaysian games, although having multiple game modes, lasts from 45-60 minutes TOTAL, where as 1 game of 14 rounds in SnD with the WCG ruleset will last you an hour EACH set. Which means a game that goes to a tie breaker, might reach a total of 3 hours. IF all teams were as strong as each other, a 16 team game will last a total of 12 hours to the finals, without a group stage. A problem i faced while running the WCG in Singapore.

As an organizer, im speaking for those who had organized COD4 competitions before... DO you have the time? DO your sponsors AGREE with what you are planning? Are the competitors HAPPY with your current system? Will the SYSTEM function during the process of the competition?
A choice must be made, i hope you understand the consequences.

All i can say is, the WCG Singapore rule set had its advantages. It was easy to apply, you didnt need an expert behind the servers, so long as he knew the exec codes. But that was singapore. I don't know how it will fare here in Malaysia, since the rule sets are also ready with only required exec codes to be run.

With Highest Regards,
[ESP].Death
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Play Hard, Go Pro.
Gamers for Gaming.

However, in support for the organization and community, I will be sending 1 more team [ESP].eGo and will be joining the FFA regardless of cost.
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[ESP].Death - FFA
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[ESP].eGo - COD4 Team
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alright

good to see that the organizers are willing to compromise and listen to us.

the issues i see so far are:

1. The high Fees for FFA and also for 5v5 but i guess the 5v5 one is still manageable

2. The R&R: Okay, i understand having SnD (not Hardcore) only for all the matches, but banning 75% of the perks is unnecessary.

I suggest the following

Perk 1:
C4
Claymore
Bandolier
Bomb Squad

C4s and Claymores make the game such an intense tactical game. I mean its one of the things COD4 has which no other FPS that i know of has.
Also if u have C4s and Clays u need Bomb Squad to balance it out.

Perk 2
Stopping Power
Juggernaut
Sleight Of Hand
Double Tap
UAV Jammer

Now, i added UAV Jammer coz teams should be able to call for UAV, but no Airstrikes and Helo is acceptable

Perk3
Steady Aim
Last Stand
Deep Impact
Iron Lungs
Eavesdrop

Last Stand is another one of the things which is very much exclusive to COD4..Please do not take this out. EC also should be considered but i personally think it gives a person too much of an advantage.

Now, these are the perks that i personally feel should be left alone with as its very much makes COD4 what it is. I just hope the organizers take these into consideration when they make alterations to their R&R.

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Thank you ESP. i get what all of you mean. forgive me for my noobness in cod4. but from my perception. cod4 is a extremely realistic warfare game. 3x grenades n 3x wat ever it was i guess it wudn be realistic.

so as for clay more and explosives. ill have to consider that with my team.

And brian can you send a RnR that is suitable so that i can see what it looks like. this way i have a clearer idea of how and what to decide on.

crashtec as well if you please

Please send the complete RnR to sunwaycybergames@gmail.com
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QUOTE(OctoberRaz @ Aug 17 2008, 10:00 PM)
Thank you ESP. i get what all of you mean. forgive me for my noobness in cod4. but from my perception. cod4 is a extremely realistic warfare game. 3x grenades n 3x wat ever it was i guess it wudn be realistic.

so as for clay more and explosives. ill have to consider that with my team.

And  brian can you send a RnR that is suitable so that i can see what it looks like. this way i have a clearer idea of how and what to decide on.

crashtec as well if you please

Please send the complete RnR to sunwaycybergames@gmail.com
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Oh, actually, why not just combine the 2 with an edit or two here and there.

You see, the WCG ruleset only affects SnD... and we have SnD in our current ruleset. it would probably plausible and less of a pain for players to get use to..
Backlot is also a map in WCG singapore, so i dont think they have an issue with that.

What say all of you?

Also, the R&R is already posted somewhere in this thread. Someone posted it i believe, page 5 or 6.

You can get it directly from king kong (Si Jun King) from NewEra, if he is your sponsor?

The rule set is also in this Forum, under Call of Duty 4 Modern Warfare Tournament #2 if im not mistaken. smile.gif
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i 2nd crashtec's idea. biggrin.gif im all for it.
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alright.. so list down the particular changes u wish to alter
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change the R&R and also the joining fees ^^
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haiyoz. hmm.gif Crashtec was RIGHT. There is the NEW RULES stated under Phatzam. CHECK IT OUT in PAGE 6 peeps.

so which one is really the REAL ONE being used? the rules of page 1 juz_mark or page 6 under phatzam?

Can perhaps phatzam and juz_mark talk to each other and pls finalize what is the rules being used for this tourney? Is it the 1st rules that is causing a huge debate in this forum, or the 2nd which seems to me like the ones being used under blitz and tbun tourneys.

Please do help this poor confused gamer who just wants to play a good game of Charlie Oscar Delta. rclxub.gif




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Yeah. Reason why CoD4 is to take over CS is because CS is old. CoD4 shouldn't be made like CS. If not it'll be like reviving the dead? lol. CoD4 is way unique compared to CS for anything can happen in so many scenario's. I 2nd crashtec and New Era's CoD4 rules. =) But do confirm ASAP. Time is Running Out - Muse.
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What you guys could do is allow everything BUT limit them. Like for example perks like 3x Frag should be limited to only 1 member in the team. This gives the game a wider range and much more experience with everything allowed and at the same time, under control.
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alright.. so list down the particular changes u wish to alter
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Well, you could alter the snd rules closer to the WCG SG rules, that wont be hard. Mod wise, all 4 game modes use the same mod, which technically only requires exec codes.
It is therefore possible to still run the original ruleset with the snd ruleset from singapore. Just without the extra's like spawn protection and such.

This also keeps the Singapore boys happy, while keeping the Malaysian boys happy as well.

If u must know tho, our "Hardcore" settings in malaysia isnt the normal hardcore. The standard hardcore player life max is 30, which means almost any gun will kill with 1 shot. Our current hardcore setting is for 60, which means you need at least 2 direct hits on a player with stopping power to kill.

Again, this is your call, if you change it to the WCG ruleset, it means its normal mode, with the HUD and radar, without UAV, Airstrike and Heli with players having preset weaponry, perks and 100 life.

In hardcore, the HUD is removed, no radar unless UAV is turned on, No Airstrike and Heli, preset weaponry(same limit as all other gamemodes, P90, RPG, grenade launcher, 3x Frags, 3x Special), 60 life.

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QUOTE([ESP�)
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What you guys could do is allow everything BUT limit them. Like for example perks like 3x Frag should be limited to only 1 member in the team. This gives the game a wider range and much more experience with everything allowed and at the same time, under control.
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This will be complicated.. This also means u need to limit classes... which is a pain to the organizer and coder.. This is because they need to determine which classes should have the x3 frags.. Also, u can only Enable and disable a perk, which means that once its enabled, all other classes can select the perk. Unless u specifically add 3 nades without the perk to a particular class, which can be done.. it will make that class imba in certain gamemode.. like Domination where they instant respawn..

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Crashtec.....you are my heroooooooo =P wakakakaka. Lol awesome now we all just have to wait for the *apparently-new-R&R* and hopefully they will lower the entrance fee as well =D
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which entrance fee do u wish to be lowered? the team of FFA. i can tell you that the team will definately stay at rm100.

the FFA i have decided on a price of RM 30. the prize is the same. so we keep that 1:10 ratio for the grand prize which is the same for the team match.

alright.. ill talk to juz mark and arrange something about the rules n regulations.

however no matter what our decision is i hope you guys will accept it as a pro gamer and enjoy a new challenge every once in a while.

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lol... earliest i can settle results is 2mrw good luck with normal training.. train basics hahahaha. fundamentals of all games biggrin.gif
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if the new ruleset is going to be implemented, may i suggest to include different maps into the respective modes? It willl bring even more variations into how different perks would be used as a strategic advantage towards the opponent in the map. Either we knife it out to choose map or simply coin toss after the mode is chose.

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ahax still another tourney with NO TF2... still waiting patiently i am..
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lol.. im waiting for a starcraft tourney.
any updates will be done by tuesday (tomorrow, time not set)
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-Removing hit indicator/hit-blip through walls.
-Limit only 1/2 LMG class per team.
The above 2 is to prevent mass random spraying.
-Limit only 1 sniper class per team.
-Enable planting sound.(Both SnD and sabotage)

I think the above changes will balance out the Malaysia R&R and not spoiling the main purpose of it. All this can be done through editiing of the pam4 quite easily which i think should be introduced and release to the community once the pam4malaysia ver. is out it will allow the game to be more flexible since the community can edit the mode to their liking. Please do take my suggestions into consideration.

PM to [ESP].Death as well who is currently doing up the new R&R. Do correct me if im wrong.


Added on August 18, 2008, 12:14 pmI gt a questions for the organiser, issit possible for us to upload our profiles into the computers over there and delete it once we finishes our game?

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will get back to you on that asap.
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QUOTE(EzPeaceZ @ Aug 18 2008, 12:10 PM)
-Removing hit indicator/hit-blip through walls.
-Limit only 1/2 LMG class per team.
The above 2 is to prevent mass random spraying.
-Limit only 1 sniper class per team.
-Enable planting sound.(Both SnD and sabotage)

I think the above changes will balance out the Malaysia R&R and not spoiling the main purpose of it. All this can be done through editiing of the pam4 quite easily which i think should be introduced and release to the community once the pam4malaysia ver. is out it will allow the game to be more flexible since the community can edit the mode to their liking. Please do take my suggestions into consideration.

PM to [ESP].Death as well who is currently doing up the new R&R. Do correct me if im wrong.


Added on August 18, 2008, 12:14 pmI gt a questions for the organiser, issit possible for us to upload our profiles into the computers over there and delete it once we finishes our game?
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why need to remove hit indicator/hit blip through walls?u scared get killed by wall spammer eh?
why u want to load ur own profile since u suggest organizer using pam4 mod?

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in this case FFA has been reduced to rm 30
book me a place for the FFA payment to be made directly to the CC TQVM ^^

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is the tournament location at the medan sunway food court there?
if not, someone post a map pls.

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For all those who want the COD4 FFA challenge form please add me

jason_ptwh@hotmail.com or send a request to sunwaycybergames@gmail.com.

Please fill it in and send the payments along with the form to the CC. You must submit both at the same time or the CC will not accept it. ty
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can go there take the forms?
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forms will be there by wednesday. Had some printing issues otherwise it would be there already. sorry for the delay
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why need to remove hit indicator/hit blip through walls?u scared get killed by wall spammer eh?
why u want to load ur own profile since u suggest organizer using pam4 mod?
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i believe u have clearly misunderstood about my suggestions. Removing hit blip thru walls is simply preventing of random spamming but u still hear the shot is if is hitted but just that u can see it, since u all talk about being tactical/strategic i think random spamming is not tactical @ all. Then u might go on talking about spraying @ possible path the opponent might be heading to, u are still able to do so but only u cant confirm ur hits.

And loading my profile meaning with my in game settings not the custom kits. I believe the organiser ask for feedback/suggestion abt the R&R so i gave mine, so wad is with all the questioning and doubts from it as if im afraid of the new rulesets? I certainly hope is not becos im from the SG community that is why everything i mention might sounds as if im trying to push the ruleset to our advantage.

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if the new ruleset is going to be implemented, may i suggest to include different maps into the respective modes? It willl bring even more variations into how different perks would be used as a strategic advantage towards the opponent in the map. Either we knife it out to choose map or simply coin toss after the mode is chose.
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Adding new maps will be too much of a hassle when it comes to multiple game modes.. also, it wont give enough time for new players to train all the maps and all the game modes..

I am suggesting slower additions and lower amount of changes.. slowly, we can evolve the current ruleset.

For now, limiting the LMG is possible, hitblip as well. Knifing rounds waste a lot of time, from what i saw in singapore. Something the organizers might not have. I suggest what king kong did in Blitzone, Marshal draws the maps and game modes, the selections last for each bracket.

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Ezpeace is tryin to comprehend that SOMETIMES, players abuse the hit-blip thru walls. Removing it actually makes the game more interesting.

imagine hardcore mode and u spray through a wall and if u hit someone, the hit-blip appears and there u go.spray till death. biggrin.gif hahaha. So removing it actually makes us think twice on spraying out bullets,revealing our position to the opponents.

wraith, im not noisy. biggrin.gif
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oh, cod4 is also apart of the SCG?

i didn't know tat....
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Marshal draws the maps and game modes, the selections last for each bracket.
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tat's sounds interesting enough. OKAY!
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Reserve a slot for [ESP].emo for COD4 if its not done yet. thanks.

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reserve for Team DREAM too hehehe (dont think is Dream Team ya , we are still noob to this game)
all working adult here trying to look for some fun.
by the way ....i'm kind of confuse about the rules here , the 1st page of this forum i saw and the middle page (forgot which page liow) that post the game mode & rules are different ....so which is which now ??
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is the tournament location at the medan sunway food court there?
if not, someone post a map pls.
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Sunway Rock Cafe located in the area where there're a lot of car shops that mainly repair or tune sports car. Just nearby Sunway College.
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oh, cod4 is also apart of the SCG?

i didn't know tat....
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Aparently WGT SG is also coming up with COD4.
Very sudden.. but... online qualifiers...?

sigh.
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wow alot of queries.
UPDATES:
1. COD4 FFA registration is on a first come first serve basis as seats are limited. To get a form you will be given a number from 1-36. form numbers 1-20 will be at the venue Sunway rock Cafe. 21 to 36 will be with me you can ask ME ONLY for this form.

*** I will only lease these forms by thursday. which is the 21st of August 2008 at noon ***

msn-jason_ptwh@hotmail.com
email - sunwaycybergames@hotmail.com

2. COD4 TEAM and FFA RnR will be confirmed by wednesday max. the earliest would be tuesday (tomorrow)

3. From this point on anybody who says COD category will immediately be assumed as entering the TEAM event.

4.COD4 FFA registration fee is RM 30 per player
First prize - RM300 2nd- RM200 3rd RM100

This is to maintain the grand prize 1:10 ratio which is the same as all the other categories

5. any more updates will be revealed later


Added on August 18, 2008, 7:44 pmUPDATE:

RESERVATION deadline is almost over. by wednesday all the teams that have reserved will be automatically placed in the competition. anybody that makes late reservations WILL NOT be entertained.

This applies to COD4 TEAM and DotA.

COD4 FFA is on a first come first serve basis.

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QUOTE(OctoberRaz @ Aug 18 2008, 07:35 PM)
wow alot of queries.
UPDATES:
1. COD4 FFA registration is on a first come first serve basis as seats are limited. To get a form you will be given a number from 1-36. form numbers 1-20 will be at the venue Sunway rock Cafe. 21 to 36 will be with me you can ask ME ONLY for this form.

*** I will only lease these forms by thursday. which is the 21st of August 2008 at noon ***

msn-jason_ptwh@hotmail.com
email - sunwaycybergames@hotmail.com

2. COD4 TEAM and FFA RnR will be confirmed by wednesday max. the earliest would be tuesday (tomorrow)

3. From this point on anybody who says COD category will immediately be assumed as entering the TEAM event.

4.COD4 FFA registration fee is RM 30 per player
First prize - RM300 2nd- RM200  3rd RM100

This is to maintain the grand prize 1:10 ratio which is the same as all the other categories

5. any more updates will be revealed later


Added on August 18, 2008, 7:44 pmUPDATE:

RESERVATION deadline is almost over. by wednesday all the teams that have reserved will be automatically placed in the competition. anybody that makes late reservations WILL NOT be entertained.

This applies to COD4 TEAM and DotA.

COD4 FFA is on a first come first serve basis.
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What is FFA ?
which rules will be apply ?
1st prize RM300 ?? not RM800 ??

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Aug 18 2008, 01:39 PM)
is the tournament location at the medan sunway food court there?
if not, someone post a map pls.
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Yes it is. In fact, it's directly above medan.
Just head up the stairs at the mixed rice stall in the middle of the food court.



For R & R, i agree with james that we should preserve the unique-ness off the game.
The perks/attachments/etc he suggested on page 13 seems fine.

About the wall hit-blip thing..
Well, not many ppl spray walls for no reason shocking.gif
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FFA = Free For All Challenge.
rules will be known as soon as we can come up with a decision hopefully in the next 2 days
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QUOTE(simo_keng @ Aug 17 2008, 05:47 PM)
no Dawn of War? sad.gif
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QUOTE(Dh.Kira @ Aug 17 2008, 05:49 PM)
nw still got slot for dota ? hmm.gif
if got , Reserve 1 slot for my team doh.gif
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still got slot..
but did u mention ur team name to reserve?
cause i can't find it in the forums, or maybe i missed it blink.gif
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could anybody please enlighten me with the pam4 mod stuff. i can understand a few things. and a few adjustments have been made already. but what is this mod?


Added on August 18, 2008, 9:49 pm
QUOTE(OctoberRaz @ Aug 18 2008, 07:35 PM)
wow alot of queries.
UPDATES:
1. COD4 FFA registration is on a first come first serve basis as seats are limited. To get a form you will be given a number from 1-36. form numbers 1-20 will be at the venue Sunway rock Cafe. 21 to 36 will be with me you can ask ME ONLY for this form.

*** I will only lease these forms by thursday. which is the 21st of August 2008 at noon ***

msn-jason_ptwh@hotmail.com
email - sunwaycybergames@hotmail.com

2. COD4 TEAM and FFA RnR will be confirmed by wednesday max. the earliest would be tuesday (tomorrow)

3. From this point on anybody who says COD category will immediately be assumed as entering the TEAM event.

4.COD4 FFA registration fee is RM 30 per player
First prize - RM300 2nd- RM200  3rd RM100

This is to maintain the grand prize 1:10 ratio which is the same as all the other categories

5. any more updates will be revealed later


Added on August 18, 2008, 7:44 pmUPDATE:

RESERVATION deadline is almost over. by wednesday all the teams that have reserved will be automatically placed in the competition. anybody that makes late reservations WILL NOT be entertained.

This applies to COD4 TEAM and DotA.

COD4 FFA is on a first come first serve basis.
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I post this again so nobody misses this

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has the rules & regulations finalist yet ??
MY custom rules or SG so call international rules ?

oh ya if can update on the 1st page la ..........so i dun need go page by page to check updated status

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reserve one cs slot for my team pls,kgaming
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QUOTE(EzPeaceZ @ Aug 18 2008, 12:10 PM)
-Removing hit indicator/hit-blip through walls.
-Limit only 1/2 LMG class per team.
The above 2 is to prevent mass random spraying.
-Limit only 1 sniper class per team.
-Enable planting sound.(Both SnD and sabotage)

I think the above changes will balance out the Malaysia R&R and not spoiling the main purpose of it. All this can be done through editiing of the pam4 quite easily which i think should be introduced and release to the community once the pam4malaysia ver. is out it will allow the game to be more flexible since the community can edit the mode to their liking. Please do take my suggestions into consideration.

PM to [ESP].Death as well who is currently doing up the new R&R. Do correct me if im wrong.


Added on August 18, 2008, 12:14 pmI gt a questions for the organiser, issit possible for us to upload our profiles into the computers over there and delete it once we finishes our game?
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plz don not remove the hit indicator .... wat's is there, remains there ... thanx
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only remove hit indicator thru walls.
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Yo octoberRaz.

Can you list down all the teams that are currently in the reservation. Just want to check whether my team's place has already been reserved and for the benefit of the other teams to see their places reserved as well.

Would be grateful if you could do that. Pls and ty.
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my suggestion on cod RnR

any team that beats team XxX is immediately disqualified wakakaka
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lol. i will but i have to search and double check. deadline for registration is tomorrow!

erm diablo... so far your the first tema for cs. and there is a notice on the first page for the number of teams needed to start the competition. find me 19 more teams then i can reserve u not a prob.

RnR will be finalised soon. perks and the blip thingy have been changed. now just waiting for rules and such. will try to release the info asap


Just check the last page for updates. ty

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19 more teams? wat the. advertise more i guess.theres alot of cs team around i think all of them turned off by the registration fee.
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flyers will be out soon. there will be a limited number of teams. but no worries you will be inside if the competition goes on



COD4 Players

This is what i need to hear from you now asap. Perks , banned weapons and among other things have already been discussed and finalised. is there anything else you wish changed. please tell me now asap. the faster u tell me the faster i can make a decision.

Please be very specific and follow this format

Current rule/ restriction u dislike = The rule u want /restriction u wish undone.


i also understand so far that this ONLY affects the SnD map. if theres is nothing else then i will post the finalised perks banned weapons and such

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I need to see the rules that u use first.. is it the international one or new era one.. then only i can comment.. so far by reading all the comments.. im guessing u guys are going 2 use pam4 mode.. From the RnR in the 1st page, means u r using international rules which consist snd only.. r u going to stick with it or u've already change it due to complains from cod4 players?

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DEADLINE is today ??? OMG
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according to octoberRaz it's tomorrow but if u refer back to the 1st post.. it's 31 August.. which one is it i wonder..
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i also wonder which 1 is true .....seem like it has been chaging here n there .... rclxub.gif
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Well, if you're going to be using the SG ruleset, then go SG rules all the way. If you're going to be using Malaysian ruleset, then go for it all the way. Now we're just waiting for you to tell us what you're going to be using so we can train for it. I don't mind either one, really, but my preference is the Malaysian ruleset.

Unlike some of the people who have posted in this thread, some of us who actually have competitive experience playing in local tournaments are able to comment on it fairly. I would say that our ruleset allows for greater variety and tactics whereas the SG ruleset's biggest advantage is that it allows for standardization. That distills the game into who shoots first and more accurately (and tactics, of course). You can't say that because we want our local tourney rules that we're biased and vice versa. It's just what we're comfortable with and what we've practiced the most. If the organizers can't make up their minds, we should allow for the majority to decide/allow for team captains to vote. =)

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yup agree with [SWL.PeW]*Grr. why organiser had fully depend on players ? if organiser had set the rules .....then balance it up all the rules & settings from the feedback will do right ??? or maybe should take it as a vote ......then see what can move on rather asking here n there , which cant reach to the point.

my 2 cent

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Malaysian rules FTW!
malaysia boleh!
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Y held after acca result out.... seriously... is not a gud time!!
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Y held after acca result out.... seriously... is not a gud time!!
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hmmm, wats wrong having after the results are released? scared mummy knows ur poor results?

anyone, i'd like to add that Grr has a point. its a simple decision of SG or MY.

for FFA, well, you should simply choose a map, restrict weapons (Grenade Launcher and the RPG) and restrict some perks (Martyrdom and a few others) and then you're all set. just no shipment!

no point ding-dong-ing on rules as players need some time to practice.

a note to those that haven't played in CoD4 tourneys before, i suggest you give the current Malaysian rules a try and then you will realise why we all (the CoD4 community) came to such an arrangement.

oh, mr organizer, i've emailed you my contact, so feel free do buzz me for some help.

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QUOTE(king_kong @ Aug 19 2008, 11:14 AM)
hmmm, wats wrong having after the results are released? scared mummy knows ur poor results?

anyone, i'd like to add that Grr has a point. its a simple decision of SG or MY.
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i second king kong & grr opinion .... either u wan to follow sg rules or our motherland rule,



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I say that if we want the SG rule set we can just use it for SND and im talking about SnD SG WCG rules set for JUST SnD

But we still retain the other rules/maps hence giving the game a slight new feel and still have our roots in other modes with perk customization's and diff team play....

So map will still be random but when a SnD is picked then we shall use the SG rule set....i think this is the best way to incorporate both rules in the most fair way possible

so the rules should be....

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FOR THOSE WHO AGREE PLEASE SAY F1

ps: FOR THE MOTHERLAND!! with abit of campur campur brows.gif

PPS: as for SNIPER SWAY in Pam4 WCG rules im not sure should it be used or not...personally it think that the sway should stay the way it is..but its open for discussion.....*FOR THOSE WHO DONT KNOW THE SNIPER IN SG RULES DOES NOT MOVE!! IMAGINE A AWP in CS.. SAME THING.... AFTER EVERY SHOT U WILL UNZOOM*

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I'll vote for Malaysia rules. SG rules a little to much like CS. And as Death said earlier, is going to take longer. Since most of us have experienced the Malaysia rules, it only takes a maximum of 2 days to finish. According to Death, 1 map with SG rules takes an hour. I guess if you have enough comps to go round it doesn't matter, but time is a great factor. So far, votes for Malaysia is 3 (or 4). Zero for SG rules. smile.gif

[SWL.PeW]*flaver.

@ Holyboyz : Pam4 campur with our rules hey. Not a bad idea. But would it be a messy for the server? Later got Pam4 HQ = No MG. hmm.gif Anyways, a great idea. F1 for Holyboyz idea. smile.gif

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i also agreed...i vote for malaysia rules...SG rules make the cod4 game so boring.. n btw... i want to join Ffa tournement...can someone help me..i dont know how to join...sob sob sob
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pm Raz.. he have some of the forms.. but u need to pay with the forms.. so it's 1st come 1st serve basis

Or u can go directly to Sunway Rock Cafe.. register and pay..

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Agree with Holyboyz !! Malaysia RULEZ !!! but do little bit change la. for eg. the map. ^^

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F1 to malaysian rules!

F2 to spore and international rules!

no need to ban ban the perks
lets play pure cod!
JYEAH!!

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im sure many are willing to compromise on the Game Mode as i said in my post regarding the perks issue on PG13 (which im happy to see u guys have discussed and amended)

u guys can have SnD on 1 map for the elimination stages.. lets say SnD Crash

till u get to the top 8, then make it SnD best of 3 maps.. and the 1st and 2nd map chosen by respective teams with the last one chosen by marshal or jointly agreed by both teams..

so this way, u get thru DAY 1 when there is alot of teams fast with single elimination SnD then Day 2 will be longer with the top teams fighting out over 2/3 maps

like this, we follow the WCG rules in terms of the game mode but we allow perks like clays and c4's and such


also, unless the organizer's play COD4, they wont understand the F1 and F2 voting system la guys... sweat.gif laugh.gif

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im sure many are willing to compromise on the Game Mode as i said in my post regarding the perks issue on PG13 (which im happy to see u guys have discussed and amended)

u guys can have SnD on 1 map for the elimination stages.. lets say SnD Crash

till u get to the top 8, then make it SnD best of 3 maps.. and the 1st and 2nd map chosen by respective teams with the last one chosen by marshal or jointly agreed by both teams..

so this way, u get thru DAY 1 when there is alot of teams fast with single elimination SnD then Day 2 will be longer with the top teams fighting out over 2/3 maps

like this, we follow the WCG rules in terms of the game mode but we allow perks like clays and c4's and such
also, unless the organizer's play COD4, they wont understand the F1 and F2 voting system la guys...  sweat.gif  laugh.gif
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Well guys, you dont have to change the Mod... modwarfare runs well for the tourney.. the thing is, you have to use a standardized mod for the competition.. switching mods in between will screw everything up.

Also, the ruleset in singapore isnt hard to change.. only 2 command lines to change in the config file... one, limiting LMG from 99 to 1, two, changing the hitblip from 1 to 2.

The changes above make it more balance without taking away anything.. something you all should consider for future event if the organizers dont apply it here.. smile.gif
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Hey man...COD4 still got slot not?

If got reserve for Team pX
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i think so far there's 17 team.. plus your team.. it's 18. Not included those who registered at Sunway Rock Cafe CC.. hopefully a few.. perhaps we can get 36 team this time
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GUYS
pay close attention

RESERVATION DEADLINES ARE BY 2MRW

PAYMENT AND HAND IN OF FORMS ARE BY 31ST

There is a high possibility of msian ruleset minus a 1/2 perks.


by the way. we are adjusting according to your preference because you are the ones playing. and SCG is the first. we want to make it the best it possibly can be. in order to do that we need happy gamers .

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GUYS
pay close attention

RESERVATION DEADLINES ARE BY 2MRW

PAYMENT AND HAND IN OF FORMS ARE BY 31ST

There is a high possibility of msian ruleset minus a 1/2  perks.
by the way. we are adjusting according to your preference because you are the ones playing. and SCG is the first. we want to make it the best it possibly can be. in order to do that we need happy gamers .
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Thank you. =)

I would like to reserve a slot for FFA CoD4 - [SWL.PeW]*Grr

Thanks.
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hmmm has Team [DREAM] included to the
slot too ???

Thanks.

hmm.....guys i got an idea .....how about loser choose the map & game mode ??

or

allow loser team to pick from a random box of what map & game mode would be.

anyone got suggestion ??
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lol. i forgot to add one thing in that update.

COD 4 FFA is a first come first served category. on thursday at noon there will be 20 forms at Sunway Rock Cafe. please pick it up and submit it along with payments before 31st. another 16 forms will be with me and i will start releasing them at night 8 or 9 pm onwards
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hello pls reserved for cs 1.6 team lz tqqqq
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CS players be warned. The CS competition will only commence if 20 teams join the competition. so far only 2 reservations are here

if by 31st august the number of CS teams does not reach 20 the CS match will not commence


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QUOTE(gav @ Aug 19 2008, 09:25 PM)
hello pls reserved for cs 1.6 team lz tqqqq
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Ask nitron sau pei laaaa XD drool.gif
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If you are unsure whether you are reserved for your respective categories. Please pm me before tomorrow.
I am currently going through the forum and checking. But i would really appreciate it if you could take the time and resend ur reservations through PM.

Thank you.
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Ask nitron sau pei laaaa XD drool.gif
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WAIT !! No helis and airstrikes for EVERY MAP!??!?!?!?!?!
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I strongly disagree with the Holyboy idea. Not everyone love to play rojak version of R&R. Those didn't complaint here are those who agree with the international standard of rules. SnD is not Singapore version. It's been use in Indonesia, Thailand and Australia for long time already.
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that's y we called it International version, read previous pages please... biggrin.gif bumps for new R&R drool.gif
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Well. IMO. I would love to follow the Malaysian rules but. Following the international standard of CoD4 is better cos it balances the game.
And well. We gotta get used to this standard if we ever gonna improve our game. and bring Malaysia to the pro gaming level.
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that's y we called it International version, read previous pages please...  biggrin.gif  bumps for new R&R  drool.gif
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Well. IMO. I would love to follow the Malaysian rules but. Following the international standard of CoD4 is better cos it balances the game.
And well. We gotta get used to this standard if we ever gonna improve our game. and bring Malaysia to the pro gaming level.
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yes it does balance it but it do take away the uniqueness of cod
better name it to Counter Of Duty 4.1
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reserve slot for CoD4...

just list it under marvintwj as team name
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i understand what all of you mean by going on to international level and such. I agree its about time msia kicks sum but in some type of sport especially in gaming ^ ^

However, I have decided along with crashtec to alter the rules bit by bit so its not a major change. just minor so eventually everybody will get used to it.


Added on August 20, 2008, 6:47 amill be posting the list of reserved teams by the end of today. remember guys Tomorrow is COD4 FFA big day. 20 forms will be at the venue by noon.

16 forms will be released through ME online at throughout the day when i am online. I will only entertain the first 16 requests i get. so be quick.

To those who dont know yet. You can get a FFA regisitration form from me by email. or pm me in this forum which ever suites you.

or add me @ jason_ptwh@hotmail.com

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IMO we should stick with international rule. The reason we called it international rule is because is widely accepted by any player, representer, country. Since is international rule, why not just follow it? :/ Changing this and that, just making thing more confusing.

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IMO we should stick with international rule. The reason we called it international rule is because is widely accepted by any player, representer, country. Since is international rule, why not just follow it? :/
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Because we have voted and the majority of us would prefer Malaysian rules. Don't worry, if your team is good enough, it doesn't matter what ruleset the organizers are using because your skill will shine through. =) There's still the WGT later on and if [XEF] would like to organize a tourney with international rules, I'm sure most of us will be there. =) Cheers.
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QUOTE(Grr @ Aug 20 2008, 09:00 AM)
Because we have voted and the majority of us would prefer Malaysian rules. Don't worry, if your team is good enough, it doesn't matter what ruleset the organizers are using because your skill will shine through. =) There's still the WGT later on and if [XEF] would like to organize a tourney with international rules, I'm sure most of us will be there. =) Cheers.
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Not everyone voted and aware of the voting. I'm just realized too. Doesn't mean team good enough or not. We just want to play with international r&r. More balance. Fun. Save time.
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agree with Grr , skill do matter in game
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lol. i hear your opinions. However i have already stated that once the RnR comes out that it wouldn be questioned. I took out heli /AS / 50cal. /hit blip /c4 . So there are still explosives but just not c4.

Guys unfortunately i cant waste anymore of my time trying to settle this RnR for ya. theres alot of work to do before the 31st. So i hope you would accept the rules and have fun playing with them. Besides its just a game. biggrin.gif
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Nvm Nvm... stick to it coz u decided it already.
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QUOTE(newbi3s @ Aug 20 2008, 09:24 AM)
Not everyone voted and aware of the voting. I'm just realized too. Doesn't mean team good enough or not. We just want to play with international r&r. More balance. Fun. Save time.
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Yes, and it also completely sterilizes the fun and variety out of the game. If you would like another vote, you can ask the organizers to get another one and we'll get ONLY the team captains to vote. And that whole bit about saving time? It's a myth. Here it is coming from someone who has helped with organizing and running CoD4 tournaments on with local rulesets and 'international' rulesets.

QUOTE(crashtec @ Aug 17 2008, 09:32 PM)
I want the current clans to be stronger without the need of international support but at the same time aid those countries that have limited teams.
In all honesty, i didn't like the WCG Singapore rules due to the fact that it is too close to other games, it might either kill the other games or vice versa. The core groups who played COD4 for the current rules may leave to newer games because of it and CS clans might come over, killing CS in the process.

Before applying the rulesets, please think about the future of the INDUSTRY, not the game, not your company, not your competition. THe rule set in singapore also makes it longer for games to complete, giving you time constraints as a organizer. Normal Malaysian games, although having multiple game modes, lasts from 45-60 minutes TOTAL, where as 1 game of 14 rounds in SnD with the WCG ruleset will last you an hour EACH set. Which means a game that goes to a tie breaker, might reach a total of 3 hours. IF all teams were as strong as each other, a 16 team game will last a total of 12 hours to the finals, without a group stage. A problem i faced while running the WCG in Singapore.
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Honestly, like I pointed out earlier, I don't mind either ruleset. On the other hand, if you were to force me to vote, I would vote Malaysian rules. You can call me kuno, old-fashioned, backward, whatever, but it doesn't change my mind that the Malaysian ruleset is much more fun to play with. It also levels a lot of the playing ground with the perks available.

You see, with international rulesets, once there is a visible gap between teams, it just gets bigger every tournament. New teams can't catch up much to the big boys because you can't change your perks to give you an advantage over the other team and changing your tactics too much isn't going to make much of a difference against the big boys. All it boils down to is how sharp you are with your weapon. The Malaysian ruleset allows for many different variations. You can be strong in one map and weak in another but with the right combination of perks, you CAN match your opponents to complete your objective, especially in Domination and HQ. Changing your tactics brings about a whole different style of gameplay, especially with those two maps sometimes enabling you to get surprise wins against teams that might look stronger on paper.

Now, if you wanted a change in to the international ruleset because you did not have much joy in local tournaments, trust me, you're not going to get much better results with an international ruleset unless you get lucky with your brackets. So, again, if you like, you can ask the organizers to call another vote but I don't think the results are going to change.
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Ok the new rules are ok i guess. Normal already lar haha =). But why hardcore S&D?!?!?! I started to like the Normal-S&D hehehe
Anyway good luck people. Remember its just a game......that I LOVE =D
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International Rule Set

Australian Cyber Gamer League - Australia
Championship Gaming Series (CSS) - International
Cyberathlete Amateur League - International
Electronic Sports League - International
GameArena COD4 Ladder - Australia & New Zealand
i34 Multiplay - United Kingdom
SKOTH2 - Asia
TeamWarfare League NA (TWL) - North America
TeamWarfare League EU (TWL) - Europe
WCG Australia - Australia
WCG Telkomsel - Indonesia
WCG Samsung Indonesia - Indonesia
WCG Singapore - Singapore
WGT Indonesia - Indonesia
WGT Singapore - Singapore
Xfire COD4 Online Tournament - International
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QUOTE(newbi3s @ Aug 20 2008, 11:04 AM)
International Rule Set

Australian Cyber Gamer League - Australia
Championship Gaming Series (CSS) - International
Cyberathlete Amateur League - International
Electronic Sports League - International
GameArena COD4 Ladder - Australia & New Zealand
i34 Multiplay - United Kingdom
SKOTH2 - Asia
TeamWarfare League NA (TWL) - North America
TeamWarfare League EU (TWL) - Europe
WCG Australia - Australia
WCG Telkomsel - Indonesia
WCG Samsung Indonesia - Indonesia
WCG Singapore - Singapore
WGT Indonesia - Indonesia
WGT Singapore - Singapore
Xfire COD4 Online Tournament - International
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I'm not quite sure what you're trying to say here. A lot of tournaments use international rules? Cool. I didn't say otherwise. Uh, I want to point out that you highlighted CGS who play CS:S, not CoD4. The list is pretty, though. ^^

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err, so where is the new updated RnR?

sorry if its already posted sumwhere.. i cant seem to find it sweat.gif


Edit: aaahh found it.. my eyes are playing tricks on meh yawn.gif

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I'm not quite sure what you're trying to say here. A lot of tournaments use international rules? Cool. I didn't say otherwise. Uh, I want to point out that you highlighted CGS who play CS:S, not CoD4. The list sure is pretty, though. ^^
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QUOTE(Grr @ Aug 20 2008, 11:22 AM)
I'm not quite sure what you're trying to say here. A lot of tournaments use international rules? Cool. I didn't say otherwise. Uh, I want to point out that you highlighted CGS who play CS:S, not CoD4. The list is pretty, though. ^^
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CGS 'tests' CoD4 with the UK's largest ever prize

The Championship Gaming Series will host a Call of Duty 4 tournament at the United Kingdom and European Combine event, the qualifier and draft event held at Europe's largest LAN centre in Birmingham, England.

The CoD4 tournament will run alongside the official CGS event, where the four European franchises (London Mint, Birmingham Salvo, Stockholm Magnetik and Berlin Allianz) will be deciding who represents both the European and UK regions in the world finals held later this year.

The event seems to be spear headed by Birmingham Salvo manager Michael "ODEE" Odell, the former Dignitas manager who was known to be a keen Call of Duty supporter (and player), and has taken it upon himself to attempt and lower the age restriction (18 year old) thought to be applied to the competition, though details remain sparse at this point.

The event will take place over the weekend of 17-18th May and will be restricted to thirty two teams, where teams will be have to apply online. It's not known whether the CGS will employ a first come first serve policy or whether they're going to give preferential treatment to top European teams who've just over two weeks until the event starts.

CGS.CoD4 - £10,000

1st £2,500
2nd £1,500
3rd £1,250
4th £1,150
5th £1,100
6th £1,000
7th £750
8th £750

The CGS event surpasses the prize money total set by Multiplay with their i33 tournament (€12,784 compared to Multiplay's €12,000) held at the end of March, subsequently won by Dignitas with the Meet Your Makers (former The Last Resort) side coming in second. The event spreads the prize winnings much more generously among the lower placing teams and combined with the age issues, may force the event into an all British affair.


What I'm trying to say? Clearly stated there. We should stick with the international rule set for better Malaysia COD4. thumbup.gif
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What I'm trying to say? Clearly stated there. We should stick with the international rule set for better Malaysia COD4.  thumbup.gif
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From the list you highlighted, it clearly states CSS in brackets. =/ I didn't know CGS would be having CoD4. Anyway, no use debating. If YOU feel that international rules clearly are better for the Malaysian CoD4 scene, then YOU should lobby for it more vigorously. We've had our say in the matter, and the organizers have changed the RnR to suit the majority. When the next tourney comes along, you're more than welcome to say what you need to say to the organizers. Fair? =)

p.s. Dunno why got an extra post from me. =/
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QUOTE(Grr @ Aug 20 2008, 11:42 AM)
From the list you highlighted, it clearly states CSS in brackets. =/ I didn't know CGS would be having CoD4. Anyway, no use debating. If YOU feel that international rules clearly are better for the Malaysian CoD4 scene, then YOU should lobby for it more vigorously. We've had our say in the matter, and the organizers have changed the RnR to suit the majority. When the next tourney comes along, you're more than welcome to say what you need to say to the organizers. Fair? =)

p.s. Dunno why got an extra post from me. =/
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International rule set for better COD4 in Malaysia. Should we move on and follow the world trend?
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Should we make fair vote?

International rule set for better COD4 in Malaysia. Should we move on and follow the world trend?
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You're not getting what I'm saying. Okay, for the last time before I go and get work done: If you can convince the organizers to hold another poll where all team captains vote, then do it. They have already finalized the rules and they said they don't want to change it any more, though, so your chances of getting that is very low. It's not up to you and me.
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You're not getting what I'm saying. Okay, for the last time before I go and get work done: If you can convince the organizers to hold another poll where all team captains vote, then do it. They have already finalized the rules and they said they don't want to change it any more, though, so your chances of getting that is very low. It's not up to you and me.
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It's too late for this tourney.. let's just see how WGT goes.
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It's too late for this tourney.. let's just see how WGT goes.
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International Rule Set

Australian Cyber Gamer League - Australia
Championship Gaming Series (CSS) - International
Cyberathlete Amateur League - International
Electronic Sports League - International
GameArena COD4 Ladder - Australia & New Zealand
i34 Multiplay - United Kingdom
SKOTH2 - Asia
TeamWarfare League NA (TWL) - North America
TeamWarfare League EU (TWL) - Europe
WCG Australia - Australia
WCG Telkomsel - Indonesia
WCG Samsung Indonesia - Indonesia
WCG Singapore - Singapore
WGT Indonesia - Indonesia
WGT Singapore - Singapore
Xfire COD4 Online Tournament - International
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All you quoted here use different rules. Same mods and different rules.
Please DO NOT confuse mods with rules = rules = server settings,
mods usually use PAM4.

WGT and WCG Singapore rules were modified PAM4 Promod Rules.. You weren't there to set up the servers.
WGT Indonesia also uses modified "international rules", rounds are different
Majority of Eu use different sets of rules, only the TWL league stays the same. TWL is an online league.
NA uses different rule sets - 1vs3, 1vs2
US usually uses Default Classes
SKOTH used different RULES - if you noticed, 8 perks are enabled
Australian Cyber League also have their rules modified to fit THEIR community

Are you sure you're part of the growth of the community or are you thinking about yourself?
Whoever set up those leagues were thinking big, true. But so are we. Most malaysians are kiasu when it comes to competitions, that is why we need to keep it fun for now.
The rule changes are to slingshot the teams who play here towards WGT, which rules are yet to be confirmed.

THERE IS NO STANDARD RULE. STOP GIVING FALSE INFORMATION.
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right

so i see the new RnR for 5v5, but what abt the FFA?

is the FFA thing gonna be 36 ppl dumped into those maps to fight among themselves to see whos top, and so called "King of COD4" or is there some sort of structure like there was for ACGC?

what default classes will there be or can participants choose their own?

also juzMarks u should update the 1st post with the new rules to make it easier for guys to see whats what..
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QUOTE(crashtec @ Aug 20 2008, 12:15 PM)
All you quoted here use different rules. Same mods and different rules.
Please DO NOT confuse mods with rules = rules = server settings,
mods usually use PAM4.

WGT and WCG Singapore rules were modified PAM4 Promod Rules.. You weren't there to set up the servers.
WGT Indonesia also uses modified "international rules", rounds are different
Majority of Eu use different sets of rules, only the TWL league stays the same. TWL is an online league.
NA uses different rule sets - 1vs3, 1vs2
US usually uses Default Classes
SKOTH used different RULES - if you noticed, 8 perks are enabled
Australian Cyber League also have their rules modified to fit THEIR community

Are you sure you're part of the growth of the community or are you thinking about yourself?
Whoever set up those leagues were thinking big, true. But so are we. Most malaysians are kiasu when it comes to competitions, that is why we need to keep it fun for now.
The rule changes are to slingshot the teams who play here towards WGT, which rules are yet to be confirmed.

THERE IS NO STANDARD RULE. STOP GIVING FALSE INFORMATION.
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Search and Destroy mode is the basic of international standard rule set. Not until jump to the TDM, HQ and Domination.
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Honestly the prizes aren't worth the registration fees. 100 bucks for a team (COD 4) is way too much considering the prize money is just RM800.

(Blitzone's registration fees were just RM50 and the prize was way better)

So, what is the aim of this SGC tournament anyway? Earn money? Or to actually promote sportsmanship?

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Search and Destroy mode is the basic of international standard rule set. Not until jump to the TDM, HQ and Domination.
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Yes, but since the RnR is already finalized, what are you going to do about it? Are you going to whine about it or just play? Sometimes I understand the need for the BfNut slogan. XEF leaders/team captains, please rein it in. Thank you. =)
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fish la u all.
just use whatever rules there are.

but there does come a time when u cant be happy just being a jaguh kampung, and of cos suffer embarassing defeats in international tourneys cos not used to the rules etc.

anyway, good teams will always adapt, to whatever rules or whatever game in the future.

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wah ever fierce. I think i agree those who say it too late for anymore changes.

i will jus quote something nobie post way back
QUOTE(affr0boy @ Aug 17 2008, 08:36 PM)
a good player nvr complains about it but just adapt to it and be the best of it.
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I really dun mean to direct any of this @ anyone. I think what we should be focusing on is making the event sucessful and attract more event organise to see the community then there will be more competitions to come and from there changes can be done slowly step by step. But i still prefer the SnD to be in normal mode if is still possible.

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Guys i leave it up to all of you to decide the R n R.

The international rules on the first page OR
The rules i posted.

AND PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE let this be the last of it.
If majority goes to one side. please accept it and play with it.

Voters: Team Captains only.


How to vote. PM me with your votes and which team you are from.

Please guys if u want a R n R that favors your opinion and point of view do this quick. polls are open until 11pm tonight. after that its FINAL



Reason why im doing this. because some guys say they didn voice out their opinions before the new rules came up. so now im giving everybody at this time 10 hours to finalize this with me.

i say again the decision of this vote is FINAL

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Voted.
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XEF Bravo voted.
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Aiyah change somemore? agreed with both ever and peace. It's kinda late to change, i will adapt to any rules.. both are fun to me.. be it snd or tdm or hq or domination. But i do have my personal opinion, maybe some other time we should try out other rules too.. coz diff rules give advantage to diff teams. Anyway, seem like people start voting.. i'll vote on behalf XEF Alpha.

I believe FFF will cry out loud without last stand.. hehe.. instead of adapting the same rules every tourney.. the same team will march into the finals.. it's kinda demotivate people to join tourneys. Well amateur league seem to be a good move..

As for WGT, i believe the organiser should use Snd mode for their tourney. They can choose either to call team captains or they can decided on their own which perks/weapon to be banned in the WGT.

my 2 cents opinion.. dun flame me.. or i'll get mad.. when i'm mad..

i eat a lot.. noooooo

p/s: Voted

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I believe FFF will cry out loud without last stand.. hehe.. instead of adapting the same rules every tourney.. the same team will march into the finals.. it's kinda demotivate people to join tourneys. Well amateur league seem to be a good move..


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oh?
are u saying bout me?us?wadafak
i dont really care the damn rules
please think bfore u post something
now i lost respect to xef.

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oh?
are u saying bout me?us?wadafak
i dont really care the damn rules
please think bfore u post something
now i lost respect to xef.
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aiyoh akem.. i dunno u can be so emo.. i was joking mah...
u can lost respect to me.. but dun drag along my clanmates
i was the one who make statement.. i was posting based on wut i experience with u guys
u guys love wut to use last stand.. it's not something bad, i just state it out..

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QUOTE(Beast-Slayer @ Aug 20 2008, 01:41 PM)
aiyoh akem.. i dunno u can be so emo.. i was joking mah...
u can lost respect to me.. but dun drag along my clanmates
i was the one who make statement.. i was posting based on wut i experience with u guys
u guys love wut to use last stand.. it's not something bad, i just state it out..
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u guys love wut to use last stand?haha
the only member in FFF who use last stand is only me and only me.
so pls dont say things like "I believe FFF will cry out loud without last stand"
u were referring to the whole teams when u say things like that
and no im not crying if u guys take the last stand perks away
i just saying that taking away perks will take away the uniqueness of cod4
thats all

ok full stop. this things stops here

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chill guys chill.... its just R n R. and now since its fair. hope u all can have a peaceful competition
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ok ok.. im sorry about the statement and dun drag FFF and XEF names in this mistake.
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right

so i see the new RnR for 5v5, but what abt the FFA?

is the FFA thing gonna be 36 ppl dumped into those maps to fight among themselves to see whos top, and so called "King of COD4" or is there some sort of structure like there was for ACGC?

what default classes will there be or can participants choose their own?

also juzMarks u should update the 1st post with the new rules to make it easier for guys to see whats what..
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relax guys...

anyways, october Raz, can u clarify this in the mean time?
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vote done ...
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i think its on the first page. hold on let me copy n paste it here
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Added on August 20, 2008, 2:26 pmhere you are. so basically FFA is based on snd mode :Dwith the same perks weapon restrictions and gameplay biggrin.gif


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the international rules only apply to the SnD mode.y dont we apply the international rules to the SnD map only?for other modes we use the normal rules we have set earlier.this way we can still train for the international rules and have fun with the local rules in the other game modes.IMO that would be a good compromise.

as much as i prefer international rules even though i dont like it 100%(no sway n stuff like that) cause it can prepare us for the future(pam4 promod watever) i think its 2 late to change it now.alot of teams have been training very hard on the local rules n it ll be unfair to them.but if just the snd map rules we change the rules i think it wont be so bad.
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I have one thing to say. Do you want to be the one leading the sheeps or be one of the sheeps? It doesn't really matter what ruleset is there. International or local,you still have to adapt. And according to newbies post on page 17,it saves time. I would like to gladly point out that is WRONG! It does not save time,if you haven't try it before.

"<b>We</b> just want to play with international r&r." Who is <b>we</b> that you are referring to?

Certainly International rules give a unik play to the game but are we going to follow international rules just for the sake of following? To improve Malaysian gaming standard? So if we follow international rule and like newbies said "we" whoever he's referring to,there would be more teams? But according to thread from what I can see,I only see a few people complaining. If we follow international rules,and if people looks at it and says "OMG,CS AGAIN!" and disbands their teams,who are we going to blame? Anyone willing to take blame because they want international rules? We're trying to build a community here first by making COD4 fun and competitive to play. How can you start off without COD4 teams? You just want to fight international teams? Because you think Malaysian standard is not good enough? The community is just starting to grow and you want to pull it down? I don't care what the ruleset is now,I just want to know as soon as possible. I've been reading this thread about the COD4 rules for a long time already,and some people just "speak" for the community. Let the community speak for themselves.

Btw,to make the FFA easier to understand, 36 players will be divided to 6 rooms. The top 2 players from each room will advance to the finals. Means total of 12 players will compete in the finals of 3 maps. Highest score of 3 maps wins.

P.S: I'm really angry right now. pr8sh ish gay. xD

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the international rules only apply to the SnD mode.y dont we apply the international rules to the SnD map only?for other modes we use the normal rules we have set earlier.this way we can still train for the international rules and have fun with the local rules in the other game modes.IMO that would be a good compromise.

as much as i prefer international rules even though i dont like it 100%(no sway n stuff like that) cause it can prepare us for the future(pam4 promod watever) i think its 2 late to change it now.alot of teams have been training very hard on the local rules n it ll be unfair to them.but  if just the snd map rules we change the rules i think it wont be so bad.
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That was what i suggested and applied to the server settings. but some people are just not satisfied. I am thoroughly dissapointed. Firstly.. if you ACTUALLY READ THE FREGGIN R&R...

Rule Changes:
� The Organizers reserve the right to modify the rules as needed. This includes changes due to software updates or releases, competition committee decisions and all other changes deemed necessary to online tournaments.
� Teams are responsible to check the rules on a regular basis and prior to every match to ensure they are in complete compliance. Teams must understand that rules listed are guidelines to ensure fair and competitive play and are subject to interpretation by the administrators based on the spirit of the game.

i will NOT vote. Simply because i do not care.
i will ensure my team is ready for any rules you throw at us and i will be gunning for XEF.
i will SEND you home, on the first day, the first match. AGAIN.

The first few times i felt bad, simply because XEF has been around for so long, your participation over the months of competitive play had earned my respect. But when you become a nuisance and not justify it convincingly, without purpose and without rationale, you become an enemy of the community, you make me an enemy and an enemy you shall have.

I hope you all have fun. I despise fighting over petty things, when everything was already settled.
Ultimately, you have never been in the organizers shoes, all you do is complain when things dont go right.
So if things dont go right here or if things dont start on time, please dont complain, they tried their best, you made it worse.
Thanks for wasting everyone's time.



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thanks crashtec.. needed that alot. my time is limited. right now i am a 1 man organiser. i dont have the time to settle all complaints. i can clear say now that MY rules are winning.

i am doing this vote so that after this NOBODY can complain to me. and if u do ill tell u to **** off. ive already wasted valuable time.


Sry for harsh language.. im a human too ya noe
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QUOTE(crashtec @ Aug 20 2008, 03:05 PM)
That was what i suggested and applied to the server settings. but some people are just not satisfied. I am thoroughly dissapointed. Firstly.. if you ACTUALLY READ THE FREGGIN R&R...

Rule Changes:
� The Organizers reserve the right to modify the rules as needed. This includes changes due to software updates or releases, competition committee decisions and all other changes deemed necessary to online tournaments.
� Teams are responsible to check the rules on a regular basis and prior to every match to ensure they are in complete compliance. Teams must understand that rules listed are guidelines to ensure fair and competitive play and are subject to interpretation by the administrators based on the spirit of the game.

i will NOT vote. Simply because i do not care.
i will ensure my team is ready for any rules you throw at us and i will be gunning for XEF.
i will SEND you home, on the first day, the first match. AGAIN.

The first few times i felt bad, simply because XEF has been around for so long, your participation over the months of competitive play had earned my respect. But when you become a nuisance and not justify it convincingly, without purpose and without rationale, you become an enemy of the community, you make me an enemy and an enemy you shall have.

I hope you all have fun. I despise fighting over petty things, when everything was already settled.
Ultimately, you have never been in the organizers shoes, all you do is complain when things dont go right.
So if things dont go right here or if things dont start on time, please dont complain, they tried their best, you made it worse.
Thanks for wasting everyone's time.
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This is new XEF. Just started last month. We (XEF) don't mind what's the result will be. But I just want to play with the international rule set. Which is more proper. That's the reason why do voting to ensure majority choose which one. So that everyone will be happy. So vote your choice. I just give my comments in why should stick with the international rules.
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alright guys .. im cool .. suggest all of you take a breather step away form the pc. come back at 11 pm. biggrin.gif. as for those that do not wish to vote. i understand why all of u are pissed. and because the voting response is so good now. i can say that the MY or new R n R is prefered amongst this community
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Guys let's not fight and bicker. International rules for promod were made for SND as that is their mode for competitions. It was made to unite the EU/NA. Having your own ruleset is fine. If it's what the community wants that is good! It means your community is excelling. Not switching to international rules doesn't mean you are lagging behind. I myself kinda of like the Msian ruleset, it really looks fun!

For those saying CoD is becoming like CS. Please understand that from the beginning CoD was made TO compete with CS. The CS template [5v5 Bombsite] for international competition play is legendary and successful and that is why people are following it. So please do not keep complaining that CoD is becoming like CS. Those rules are made for INTERNATIONAL PROFESSIONAL competitions. No ruleset is right or wrong.

So please stop fighting amongst each other. It hurts my heart to see such prejudice and malice going on between the community. We are all one big family and should treat each other as such. If you have a problem raise it up in a orderly and respectful manner and have a mature discussion.


Anyways the following will be me speaking as a CoD4 Sniper and not as a member of JEDI. It is solely my opinion.

I would recommend we use the Unite Sniper Fix. For those who do not know about what sniper fixes are here is a brief statement. It is globally known that the stock sniper has some flaws [EG: Too long scope in. Too long lerp breath timing]. Basically the communities of EU/NA/AUS banded together to make sniper fixes [PATCHES] since Activision did not bother to help.

Basically there are three types of fixes that have been used in competitive play.

1.Lerp 4 fix. The Lerp 4 fix changes the game command and allows the sniper to half the time it takes for the crosshair in his scope to steady before it is 100 percent on target on the crosshair.

2.AWP fix. This fix makes it just LIKE CS AWP. It scopes in instantly and is instantly accurate. You do not have to hold your breath. [I don't like this one]. You can only shoot one shot before you have to rechamber and it will unscope when you rechamber your round.

3. Unite Sniper Fix. This fix was made with input from the top snipers from EU/NA. It is a balanced fix. It halves the time taken for your breath to steady your crosshair 100 percent and halves the time taken to scope in. Overall it fixes the slow scoping and still makes the sniper have to hold his breath which makes it easier yet not too easier for snipers.

Additional links: http://www.teamwarfare.com/forums/showthre...threadid=405472.

If possible, speaking as a sniper here, I would like to see the Unite Sniper Fix implemented. It is a simple file that needs to be put in the server mod files. If not possible that is ok.

Lets stop fighting! MAKE LOVE NOT WAR!

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pika dont post when u r angry la.u might say something u regret later

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i will SEND you home, on the first day, the first match. AGAIN.

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wah that a touch too cruel man...

and to the organizer pls remember the general rule.u cant always make every1 happy.just make sure the majority are.i hope crashtec n my suggestion can be taken into consideration as well.
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im making this vote so nobody can complain later. biggrin.gif
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Ish. Easy la. The organizers the one doing everything, we should play to his rules. It's only fair to him. Some of us making too much noise, wanting this and that, just makes the situation complicated for everyone. Like delaying training, since there are no fixed rules. If you should think that the rules aren't "fair", then, ... may God bless your soul.
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QUOTE(Mr.Pikachu @ Aug 20 2008, 03:03 PM)
You just want to fight international teams? Because you think Malaysian standard is not good enough? The community is just starting to grow and you want to pull it down?
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Actually, if you can't beat other Malaysian teams it's not much use trying to hope to beat international-standard teams. XD

Anyway, looks like the matter is settled. All this fawning for 'international' standard rules was getting on my nerves.

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QUOTE(prash @ Aug 20 2008, 03:40 PM)
pika dont post when u r angry la.u might say something u regret later
wah that a touch too cruel man...

and to the organizer pls remember the general rule.u cant always make every1 happy.just make sure the majority are.i hope crashtec n my suggestion can be taken into consideration as well.
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Lol i didnt know games can make people emo so much.. haih.. i'm too old for all this type of crap.. i don't see all the postings here as complaint.. i see it as opinion/suggestion, which can be use or cannot. Why so emo about it. Come on.. what does games suppose to give us? Fun right? So let's just have fun..

But don't you guys think that we NEED to adapt with international rules? I mean.. SnD mode. Like it or not, they r using these rules, just a bit change in perks, weapon n setting. Sometimes, we cannot always do the thing that we like.

I believe WGT will use RnR similar to international rules. And i think that's what newbies trying to share. We need to prepare ourselves for international rules. I was expecting SCG to use pam4 mod so that many other clans/players who are not in here(lowyat) know what is actually pam4 mod, international setting and so on.

Yea crashtec, why so mad? Debate is debate.. you and faliq can debate all you guys want. I dun see what's the problem. Faliq has his points and you too have your points. I dun see who's right or wrong. As the organizer speak, majority is choosing over malaysian rules. If that's the decision, XEF off course will follow. And what about this statement about XEF becoming an enemy to cod4 community. Does your statement represent the whole community? Think twice before u post, there's no point for us to become enemy to the whole community. One of our member is expressing/sharing his view on tourney RnR and u called the whole XEF clan ur enemy? There's no democracy in lowyat too? OMG what has become to this country. Furthermore, we are enemy wut during tourney.. i dun want to say hi to you while ur aiming ur gun at me..

p/s : I dun have problem with SCG RnR.. like i said earlier.. it's too late to change the RnR.. just get on with it

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QUOTE(crashtec @ Aug 17 2008, 09:32 PM)
Ladies and Gentlemen,

I would like to say something before all these things get out of hand. Firstly, if most of you remember, the rule set made in malaysia was FOR the malaysian community. It was agreed upon by numerous team leaders, not only myself, together with NewEra Malaysia to provide these rules, apply them in all upcoming local competition as a promotion to the game. We all agreed that day, that focusing on 1 game mode will kill the game, not only that, it will kill CS 1.6, which NewEra, WCG, WGT and ESWC still currently run.

Unlike singapore, the CALL OF DUTY 4 : Modern Warfare clans here are much larger. This creates a bigger gaming industry in Malaysia and i hope it will not consist of the same group of people when COD4 eventually dies out.

I helped create this community for them to be closer, heard and also allow them to play with the rules they are comfortable with. This also helps promote the game, its uniqueness and its system without limiting the game's system too much. There ARE no international rules, simply because there hasn't been an International competition, WGT is the closest we can get so far, with the Regionals & Leagues i am planning soon, we might go big. But remember that WGT is local, regardless. The reason why they use the WCG ruleset (which will be modified soon) is because they want to have a good reference for their sponsors, Intel & ASUS. The same reason why organizers f*** up the communities.

I must stress that the reason we dont use international rules is because there isn't one. Secondly, we don't need to pull players from CS, thirdly I dont WANT to. [ESP] supports gaming, that is why we try very hard not to pull players away from their games in turn, we gain their support whenever there is need for it. In order for the gaming industry to grow, there needs to be coherent support from each game, clan and community, so that sponsors and companies will be more supportive and understanding of our stature.

I want the current clans to be stronger without the need of international support but at the same time aid those countries that have limited teams.
In all honesty, i didn't like the WCG Singapore rules due to the fact that it is too close to other games, it might either kill the other games or vice versa. The core groups who played COD4 for the current rules may leave to newer games because of it and CS clans might come over, killing CS in the process.

Before applying the rulesets, please think about the future of the INDUSTRY, not the game, not your company, not your competition. THe rule set in singapore also makes it longer for games to complete, giving you time constraints as a organizer. Normal Malaysian games, although having multiple game modes, lasts from 45-60 minutes TOTAL, where as 1 game of 14 rounds in SnD with the WCG ruleset will last you an hour EACH set. Which means a game that goes to a tie breaker, might reach a total of 3 hours. IF all teams were as strong as each other, a 16 team game will last a total of 12 hours to the finals, without a group stage. A problem i faced while running the WCG in Singapore.

As an organizer, im speaking for those who had organized COD4 competitions before... DO you have the time? DO your sponsors AGREE with what you are planning? Are the competitors HAPPY with your current system? Will the SYSTEM function during the process of the competition?
A choice must be made, i hope you understand the consequences.

All i can say is, the WCG Singapore rule set had its advantages. It was easy to apply, you didnt need an expert behind the servers, so long as he knew the exec codes. But that was singapore. I don't know how it will fare here in Malaysia, since the rule sets are also ready with only required exec codes to be run.

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However, in support for the organization and community, I will be sending 1 more team [ESP].eGo and will be joining the FFA regardless of cost.
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guys, can u be mature and re-read again what crashtec said. i strongly agree about what he said, especially please think about the future of the industry. I'm sure most of u guys were playing CS before, then can think of CS future? CS is CS, CoD is CoD! Why we afraid to make our own culture, make Malaysian rule sets? Infinity Ward makes 5 game types, Perks, attachments that make CoD is special, based on reality, and why don't us just follow and grateful what their great and hard job?

Voted.

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exactly.. its just a game. biggrin.gif. alright will let the results of the polls out @ 6pm. and the list of reserved teams at 11pm biggrin.gif.
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But I want to say hi....anywayz,the situation is getting bad,the organizer has decided,debate is over. Btw,DA I'm gonna debate with you online on teamspeak when I see you. Wahahaahhahahahaha....swt...hmmm...anyway,DA,ok ah you 3 days here 3 days there...?
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hmm...seem like situation still not stable with rules & regulations
ok...put it this way

International Rules leave it to the international people do it , in fact this tournament is nothing link with international level. i believe most of the player like to use this oppurnity to train/test other opponents with international rules. fine with that.

Now as we all known that M'sia players still prefer M'sia rules so we go for that. no obligations (why so hard anyway ? it just a game)

if anyone of you were thinking to put this industry to the next level ? speak to the WCG not here ....here i think it just a fun competition that like to unite all the M'sia COD4 player together and yet having brainstorming n fun in this game. beside the so call "international rules" who give those authority to confirm yours rules is international level which & where by does not affect the game manufacturer & to all the gamers of all country ? there for , for whom to wish to become an international player. please wait for chance to come , i believe organiser will do something for that cause we all like COD4 this game. we all also want this community to grow till the international level.

however we are not the one who really known the inside story of creating a community , please be fair to organiser.


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Lol i didnt know games can make people emo so much.. haih.. i'm too old for all this type of crap.. i don't see all the postings here as complaint.. i see it as opinion/suggestion, which can be use or cannot. Why so emo about it. Come on.. what does games suppose to give us? Fun right? So let's just have fun..

But don't you guys think that we NEED to adapt with international rules? I mean.. SnD mode. Like it or not, they r using these rules, just a bit change in perks, weapon n setting. Sometimes, we cannot always do the thing that we like.

I believe WGT will use RnR similar to international rules. And i think that's what newbies trying to share. We need to prepare ourselves for international rules. I was expecting SCG to use pam4 mod so that many other clans/players who are not in here(lowyat) know what is actually pam4 mod, international setting and so on.

Yea crashtec, why so mad? Debate is debate.. you and faliq can debate all you guys want. I dun see what's the problem. Faliq has his points and you too have your points. I dun see who's right or wrong. As the organizer speak, majority is choosing over malaysian rules. If that's the decision, XEF off course will follow. And what about this statement about XEF becoming an enemy to cod4 community. Does your statement represent the whole community? Think twice before u post, there's no point for us to become enemy to the whole community. One of our member is expressing/sharing his view on tourney RnR and u called the whole XEF clan ur enemy? There's no democracy in lowyat too? OMG what has become to this country. Furthermore, we are enemy wut during tourney.. i dun want to say hi to you while ur aiming ur gun at me..

p/s : I dun have problem with SCG RnR.. like i said earlier.. it's too late to change the RnR.. just get on with it
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You know, the only divisive opinion has come from the XEF guys. That's probably why crashtec is so pissed. Why can't a simple compromise be reached? There were 3 people who offered to make the SnD mode just like the international version that you wanted, but yet there is still a demand to make the whole tournament tailor to your needs. Sure, voice your opinion. Sure, be disappointed when the majority wins. However, don't be a bunch of sour grapes and try to force your way. Even the JEDI guys have said they'll play with the Malaysian rules. If the TBun and Blitz tournaments were open to them, they would have come down then to play our rules, I'm sure. If the guys who play SnD almost exclusively have no problem playing the Malaysian rules, why should you? While crashtec may have been more vocal about it than I would have been, he does echo what I and a couple of other team captains think. I'll be keeping an eye out for you guys at the tournament.
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STOP WHINING, it's been put to vote already...

can you tell me a fairer way other then vote? yes? no? maybe?

we've all had our share to say about the pros/cons of each ruleset, you've made your cases, now its time to shut up and wait for vote results...no point trying to make a case anymore. and i've been reading this thread quite abit and i must say, just because one is not pro or does not play competitively, that doesnt mean one's opinion shud be sideline or have his say/vote diluted.
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i do not know what is wrong.....it has been put to vote.....so just vote....newbie and slayers are just giving oppinion...what is the problem? for me i will play whichever rules that is set as this is the organizer decision not for us to decide...but this are just their oppinions so just chill alright? and i do not wish to have enemies just because i play for XEF...btw crashtec dont u think u are a bit overboard as a clan leader for saying such things about us? u cant put ur anger on the entire clan just because 1 of them made u angry u know.... lastly i apologize if i have offended anyone

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The poll is closed now. and the votes have been counted.

Majority votes this Malaysian (edited) RnR



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So this is final. we will use this R n R for the tournament. FFA players please refer to this

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Guys what i need you to do is check this list and tell me if u are in. if not let me know. Any team that DOES NOT confirm with me week before 24th august will be assumed withdrawn from the competition.

Please conduct this through personal msg in this forum / sunwaycybergames@gmail.com / jason_ptwh@hotmail.com

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after readin all those post... oh yea i definitely wanna play, see u guys soon
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I want to update it.. but i dont have acess to marks account. FFA is RM 30 per player
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i doubt something like that would kill cs(1.6). lol ? but if it did then whatever, its about time anyway. other games have tried and failed even cssource couldn't kill cs (1.6)

edit : not saying game A > game B. im just saying that i dont think that following a certain ruleset would "kill" another game (would take more..). even if it did it wouldnt be that quick (like the way someone put it). and i dont think anyone would care if it did really "kill" the game. since the only way it will be killed is if everyone enjoys it more or its a better game to be played competitively. so what ? its called an improvement smile.gif moving forward.

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i doubt something like that would kill cs(1.6). lol ? but if it did then whatever, its about time anyway. other games have tried and failed even cssource couldn't kill cs (1.6)

edit : not saying game A > game B. im just saying that i dont think that following a certain ruleset would "kill" another game (would take more..). even if it did it wouldnt be that quick (like the way someone put it). and i dont think anyone would care if it did really "kill" the game. since the only way it will be killed is if everyone enjoys it more or its a better game to be played competitively. so what ? its called an improvement smile.gif moving forward.
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QUOTE(crashtec @ Aug 20 2008, 03:05 PM)
i will ensure my team is ready for any rules you throw at us and i will be gunning for XEF.
i will SEND you home, on the first day, the first match. AGAIN.

The first few times i felt bad, simply because XEF has been around for so long, your participation over the months of competitive play had earned my respect. But when you become a nuisance and not justify it convincingly, without purpose and without rationale, you become an enemy of the community, you make me an enemy and an enemy you shall have.
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Friend, don't make such strong statement la. We all play CoD4, we play for fun, for glory, for whatever you can think of. Don't hate the clan, but hate the game. xD Just chill la k? smile.gif
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i am suprised such a statement came out from a clan leader....remember guys its just a game doh.gif
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well his frustrations were based on the continuos debate on the R n R. Crashtec actually helped me to create this particular R n R. he gave me the server settings as well. which i will proof check tomorrow. so he put quite alot of time into it.
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i am suprised such a statement came out from a clan leader....remember guys its just a game  doh.gif
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You do not see things in my shoes, all you say is "its about time cs 1.6 dies". In order to build up the gaming industry, games must retain itself, together with their communities. Eventually, these community will divert to other games, but when they do, at the very least, the community still exists. These communities are the basis of what many who share my vision believe in. I am not the only one in this industry who thinks this way. Men in TF2 also believe this is the way to go for our future.

What i've fought for over the months of giving players something to work on. Worked so hard for the community for free, going overseas to help only to return and get some smart ass people trying to change the rules again.

Im trying to create a community that can stand on its own, create their own rules and at the same time be adaptive to rules around the region. I again say that there is NO INTERNATIONAL STANDARD RULING, that is why i do not wish to follow it. We want the rest to have a chance to follow us, not blindly follow the rest. You do not understand what i am fighting for. You do not understand what a lot of the community is fighting for. Unless Activision steps in and says "Follow me and i'll lead you to victory", i will stand my ground.

Sense my frustration and the rest of the people who fought with me. IF you do not understand why i am pissed, you do not deserve to be here.

It is a game yes, but you do not see where it can bring people who spend so much time on it. I want these people to get what they deserve and work so hard for, a career, a possibility that they will get paid to play and do what they love. YOU do NOT see this as a career, YOU do NOT understand.

Why so serious? I'm not the joker, i wont force a smile on you but i foresee that we are getting closer, closer to our goal of having the support to making this a reality. A lot of people are happier, gamers, companies, individuals alike. We are passionate about where we are heading to. People like you keep the gaming industry the way it used to be, nothing. I hope you understand my frustration now.

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QUOTE(crashtec @ Aug 20 2008, 10:03 PM)
You do not see things in my shoes, all you say is "its about time cs 1.6 dies". What i've fought for over the months of giving players something to work on. Worked so hard for the community for free, going overseas to help only to return and get some smart ass people trying to change the rules again.

Im trying to create a community that can stand on its own, create their own rules and at the same time be adaptive to rules around the region. I again say that there is NO INTERNATIONAL STANDARD RULING, that is why i do not wish to follow it. We want the rest to have a chance to follow us, not blindly follow the rest. You do not understand what i am fighting for. You do not understand what a lot of the community is fighting for.

Sense my frustration and the rest of the people who fought with me. IF you do not understand why i am pissed, you do not deserve to be here.
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i am thankfull that u have helped so much in the community but insulting other clans is not what i expected from someone like u....i am seriously offended when i saw the statement u said about XEF and if ur idea is to make the whole community hate on us....i really got nothing to say...i just hope u take back ur words...but i salute you for the time and effort you put into the RnR for SCG tourney notworthy.gif

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Btw, as I have stated before crashtec did. Do you want to be the one leading the sheeps or be one of the sheeps? The chance of letting other countries TRY our rules because of it's uniqueness. To not follow blindly because it is the INTERNATIONAL rules.
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seriously i do not care what rules is used....i have no objection on the rules whatsoever but the others are entitled to their own opinion...but of course its good to have our own rules and other country following it....thats all i have to say

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let this die NOW votes have casted and tallied. the community has spoken and the Rules has been chosen..

So let this issue die right here right now... ppl are in tittled to their opinions i agree but as a community we have spoken so lets just train up and play hard for this torny

We flooded this page with enuf crap liao let October use it for updates and proper questions that people want to ask.. PLEASE let this post be the last thing about the RnR..

@ October btw do u have a map of the place? if so can u get one? cuz some people(like me) have 0 ZIP NA~DA ZILCH sense of direction so a map to the CC would be very very helpfull thks

PS:I <3 Crashtech

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don't underestimate the staying power of cs. you think some ruleset changes would kill it ? as quick as u put it? haha.
or maybe you're afraid if it goes the other way round.. people dropping your game for cs because its has the same kinda ruleset but they prefer the older game over the new one ? tongue.gif just saying

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i hereby announce that LETS HAF SOME FUN~! rclxms.gif rclxm9.gif icon_idea.gif icon_rolleyes.gif notworthy.gif thumbup.gif cool.gif biggrin.gif tongue.gif

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Finally some peace?

Thank God.

Holyboy, Rock Cafe is just right next to Sunway University College entrance, if u know where it is.

There is a small complex of shoplots consisting of mostly Car Shops..

just turn right (if ur coming from sunway) or left (if ur coming from subang) into the shoplots and keep on going straight.

U will see a huge food court with a big ass CC on top of it (also a huge ass "ROCK CAFE" sign ontop)

hope this helps, but this is from a guys who has just been into sunway/subang area a handful of times, so dont blame me if u get lost whistling.gif

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QUOTE(Holyboyz @ Aug 20 2008, 10:30 PM)
@ October btw do u have a map of the place? if so can u get one? cuz some people(like me) have 0 ZIP NA~DA ZILCH sense of direction so a map to the CC would be very very helpfull thks

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Yeah, I for one agree Crashtech rocks. rclxms.gif
Helped us out a lot in the R n R for COD4 SCG. Thanks a bunch. biggrin.gif

As for holyboyz, u could always take a cab to Sunway University College.
Once there, ask the students for directions to 'Medan' and you will find the cyber upstairs.
I'm also considering putting a map into the long-awaited flyers, but i have to talk to the designer.
If u insist on driving, meet me and i can briefly draw a map and explain to u how to get there.


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i hereby announce that LETS HAF SOME FUN~!  rclxms.gif  rclxm9.gif  icon_idea.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif  notworthy.gif  thumbup.gif  cool.gif  biggrin.gif  tongue.gif
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awesome game on......

i will TRY TO SEND whoever faces me home, on the first day, the first match.


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That was what i suggested and applied to the server settings. but some people are just not satisfied. I am thoroughly dissapointed. Firstly.. if you ACTUALLY READ THE FREGGIN R&R...

Rule Changes:
� The Organizers reserve the right to modify the rules as needed. This includes changes due to software updates or releases, competition committee decisions and all other changes deemed necessary to online tournaments.
� Teams are responsible to check the rules on a regular basis and prior to every match to ensure they are in complete compliance. Teams must understand that rules listed are guidelines to ensure fair and competitive play and are subject to interpretation by the administrators based on the spirit of the game.

i will NOT vote. Simply because i do not care.
i will ensure my team is ready for any rules you throw at us and i will be gunning for XEF.
i will SEND you home, on the first day, the first match. AGAIN.

The first few times i felt bad, simply because XEF has been around for so long, your participation over the months of competitive play had earned my respect. But when you become a nuisance and not justify it convincingly, without purpose and without rationale, you become an enemy of the community, you make me an enemy and an enemy you shall have.

I hope you all have fun. I despise fighting over petty things, when everything was already settled.
Ultimately, you have never been in the organizers shoes, all you do is complain when things dont go right.
So if things dont go right here or if things dont start on time, please dont complain, they tried their best, you made it worse.
Thanks for wasting everyone's time.
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ooo interesting...no offense, but can u explain how voicing one's opinion makes one an "enemy of the community"? justify please.

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QUOTE(marvintwj @ Aug 21 2008, 12:48 AM)
awesome game on......

i will TRY TO SEND whoever faces me home, on the first day, the first match.


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ooo interesting...no offense, but can u explain how voicing one's opinion makes one an "enemy of the community"? justify please.
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Thks for the directions...if i find it ill tell u guys if not.. send out a search party....
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yeah let's have fun and send each other home early..
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awesome game on......

i will TRY TO SEND whoever faces me home, on the first day, the first match.


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ooo interesting...no offense, but can u explain how voicing one's opinion makes one an "enemy of the community"? justify please.
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Sigh, i'm sorry that i seemed offensive in earlier posts towards XEF. But honestly, CS is still around because people fight for it. Sponsors are trying to remove it.. you need to look at their perspective. I did not insult you, infact, i merely challenged you. I didnt swear at you, nor did i threaten you. After 21 pages, you still do not understand what im talking about. >.<

I for one believe that to make the gaming industry stronger, more diverse teams are needed. Not the same clans and groups of people hoping from one game to another. That is why i need CS alive and malaysians running their own game while they still can. Honestly, if you like the rules of other countries better, train to play against them. Its like soccer, you cant expect to train and win both the league and the cup. You might be able too, but you tire yourself out and risk injury. Its the same here, just think out of the box for a second before you jump into the conclusion that i didnt see through you points.


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crashtec, this is the goodness of debate. Sometimes we go overboard but mature people quickly realize that we wont benefit anything if we have grudge againts another, as you know.. our community still need each other support to make it stronger.

Personally, i have numerous time stated that i agree with what u r saying becoz you too have your points and you have to defend it. It's just a suggestion anyway, like i said a warm up preparation before WGT. But then, the team captains have spoken and the result need to be respect. I dunno about others members, but me myself will do anything i could to support anyone including you who wish to bring cod4 to a new level. It would be nice to see cod4 tourney offering 5 digits price.

Lastly, yeah.. if luck is smiling upon us.. we shall meet again in the first round. tongue.gif

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the war has ended....peace has finally come!! xD? so chill up boys i already been spectating the arguement about the ruleset till now...btw grats on the decision that we made...
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Btw,I like to state out that I enjoyed the argument. LOL! Ya I'm damn random. whistling.gif What they always say "Make peace,not war". The debate has ended. I give it a 7 out of 10. Why? Good debate but didn't last long enough. xD laugh.gif See you guys in Sunway Rock Cafe! Thundaga!
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pika go to collega la. dun coem here kacau kacau tongue.gif
oh ya when is the dateline for payment for the FFA?
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I'm already in college la....I'm just surfing lowyat and comic webs in college since there was no time for me to do that at home since I woke up at 8.30 means I have to get going immediately for class which is why I'm here now in college surfing the web and I know I'm not being relevant in saying out my facts here but I like to say it out here anyway so what are you doing out now Aeon plus I bet you'd run out of breath reading this in one breath.
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COD FFA FORMS will be at SUNWAY ROCK CAFE NOW!. im here hahaha.

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COD FFA FORMS will be at SUNWAY ROCK CAFE NOW!. im here hahaha.

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please save one form for me please!!!! I'm currently in Melbourne so please please please save one form for [ESP].Quack =D!!!!
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=(( Damn sad la, i missed the debate. And I would like to explain in person what crash really meant. =(( [ESP].Emo will be there.

October, we'll be coming to register ESP teams soon, all 4 teams will be playing. Hope to meet you in person. =) Always good to have people willing to take all the crap to make a tourney.

Cheers
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QUOTE(Sanction @ Aug 21 2008, 10:22 AM)
=(( Damn sad la, i missed the debate. And I would like to explain in person what crash really meant. =(( [ESP].Emo will be there.

October, we'll be coming to register ESP teams soon, all 4 teams will be playing. Hope to meet you in person. =) Always good to have people willing to take all the crap to make a tourney.

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dont save for him raz !!

LAWL! thx raz for the INFO you have sent to me. but when is the deadline for payment?? ^^


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QUOTE(Mr.Pikachu @ Aug 21 2008, 09:47 AM)
I'm already in college la....I'm just surfing lowyat and comic webs in college  since there was no time for me to do that at home since I woke up at 8.30 means I have to get going immediately for class which is why I'm here now in college surfing the web and I know I'm not being relevant in saying out my facts here but I like to say it out here anyway so what are you doing out now Aeon plus I bet you'd run out of breath reading this in one breath.
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i'll give u a human wedgie u wont forget kekekekeke drool.gif
omg 4 esp going @_@ ..... wan so deadly meh?

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dont save for him raz !!

LAWL! thx raz for the INFO you have sent to me. but when is the deadline for payment?? ^^
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nuuuuuuu i aint a freek!!!

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dont save for him raz !!

LAWL! thx raz for the INFO you have sent to me. but when is the deadline for payment?? ^^


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i'll give u a human wedgie u wont forget kekekekeke  drool.gif
omg 4 esp going @_@ ..... wan so deadly meh?
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What is human wedgie? Is that buttseck? Bring it on! xD Deadline is 31 August. Yes we all going! Yay road trip! = = Aeon I follow your car xD.
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wow, all the star player is here, asian best player & team,

i will say, "Bring it on, this is hell march to sunway"


lol ...

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crashtec, this is the goodness of debate. Sometimes we go overboard but mature people quickly realize that we wont benefit anything if we have grudge againts another, as you know.. our community still need each other support to make it stronger.

Personally, i have numerous time stated that i agree with what u r saying becoz you too have your points and you have to defend it. It's just a suggestion anyway, like i said a warm up preparation before WGT. But then, the team captains have spoken and the result need to be respect. I dunno about others members, but me myself will do anything i could to support anyone including you who wish to bring cod4 to a new level. It would be nice to see cod4 tourney offering 5 digits price.

Lastly, yeah.. if luck is smiling upon us.. we shall meet again in the first round. tongue.gif
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Alright.

Because of what has happened, i would like to inform you all that i have made an official meeting, for all teams to attend, preferably only team leaders, to meet with Ben from In2 Marketing for settings rules for the upcoming WGT COD4 tournament.

This meeting is crucial for the development and success of the event and also for future benefits.

PM me your team name, contact details and position (remember only team leaders are allowed to vote) if you are interested, but members are allowed to voice opinions, so long as they go through their leader first, so be prepared. Also let me know when you are free. This won't be in anyway bias since ben will be there and you will have a choice of vote.

It is also a good chance for you to know who is behind the COD4 scene now, besides me and the guys in new era smile.gif

Although i would still like to instill the malaysian rules, i might opt to remove 2 game modes, since Australia uses Domination and Sabotage as well. It is particularly interesting, since many believe SnD is the way to go. TDM is used by EU/TWL in 1 vs 3 and 1 vs 2 matches, which could be separate events for the future. (nothing really major, since it would be hard to pick opponents), HQ never really made it to competitive levels since Domination is almost the same. Momo from gamestah mentioned this as well previously

"Death.. please keep everyone informed about this event. I would love the opportunity to help you promote this event. Do you have a website up yet ?

Also, you may like to consider using the Sabotage format. A very successfull tournament has just been setup in New Zealand using the Sabotage format. The rounds go for 2.5 minutes with 10 second player respawns. After 2.5 minutes, OT kicks in and the respawn time increases by 5 seconds for every 20 seconds of gameplay. This means that as the round goes longer, it becomes even more important to stay alive. It is run using PAM and if you like, I can get you to server config files so you can load it up and have a try.

Cheers
your wang...
Momo"

I am trying to get gamestah into our picture, which means shout casts for stage matches. It'll be cool and great for promoting future events here in Malaysia, no matter what game it is.

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wow, all the star player is here, asian best player & team,

i will say, "Bring it on, this is hell march to sunway"
lol ...
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Sabotage! YaY Sounds real interesting and a thrilling game! Gr8 idea!

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SAY NO TO HQ!
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SAY NO TO HQ!
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This just shows you're not very good at HQ. If anything, we should say no to Dom. Aiyah, I'll save the rest of the comments for the meeting. I don't really want to start this up again. wink.gif
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I don't mind starting it up again xD. I like all the modes.
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haha yea, we're not very good in HQ. come to think of it, we're not good at all in HQ. plus, it makes no sense to me....domination on the other hand, me likey, and it actually has a logical scoring system.
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And first prize is only 800!! what a rip off...
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i guess its because its their first time organizing tourney thats why more expensive kua.....expensive or not....it would be a good experience to play with some of the best clans in malaysia smile.gif
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not oni malaysia, singapore and thailand clans oso
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This just shows you're not very good at HQ. If anything, we should say no to Dom. Aiyah, I'll save the rest of the comments for the meeting. I don't really want to start this up again.  wink.gif
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WHAT MEETING ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!
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XEF clan u all dat day got go the rock cafe n play ar...u guys name look similar to people we played agaisnt that day
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i went there that day....i remember i play with u also....nice to meet u laugh.gif
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ya.. thehehe.. we will be there again tomorrow night..
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GUYS im officially online. so far. hmm forms 21-32 have been taken. there are only forms 33 34 35 36 left. biggrin.gif hurry!!!.

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there's still left at SRC right? Im going there tomorrow..
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there are 20 forms in SRC. but i have no idea whether its finished. ANYWAY to those DotA players please come and join. lacking DotA players @@
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Well, they like to try new things. Singapore always wanted to try our rules out and this is the first time Malaysia opened up to other countries with its rules. So, despite having low prizes, the reception is still good smile.gif

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Nvm Grr, you can scream all you want at the meeting. There are several leaders in particular I would like to meet.

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i wan join for dota ! i wan join both ! but sadly, confirm cod4 n dota have clash game. haih. -.-"

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when be this meeting happening?
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Nvm Grr, you can scream all you want at the meeting. There are several leaders in particular I would like to meet.

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wow SANCTION FINALLY TALKS KANINAH yes i m one of the leader u wanna meet right?and another ahem u going to kill him....lolx i cant wait....
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O_o!! Me kill people? No lar, I'm very friendly. No one is going to die.
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O_o!! Me kill people? No lar, I'm very friendly. No one is going to die.
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I mean seriously, my clan leader set example for apologising when he didn't need to. So I must be nice as well. I mean after all we ALL get to express our opinions. i mean seriously, nowadays since the last incident with a special person everybody has been SOOOO worried about offending other people.

I mean seriously, I can play any set of rules without problem and it has been said that i suck balls at CoD. So I hope the people who want to actually make the damned tourney a success would just suck in their gut and go to the meeting and find out what is actually happening without having to search for a single relevant post every 3 pages.

*Yar i read the entire thread just to make sure what the hell was going on. I know some people didn't.

happy days...

See you on the front line.


Added on August 21, 2008, 11:47 pmDieeeee lar u pixy. =) oh wait, I'm spamming again, and that is a big no no!!! Please be reminded that in no way do i represent my clan's opinions and as such stand alone in all that I say. If I do offend anyone it is entirely intentional and I hope you see a doctor who will then prescribe something for your short-temperedness.

i'm such a good boy lar...

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QUOTE(Sanction @ Aug 21 2008, 11:45 PM)
I mean seriously, my clan leader set example for apologising when he didn't need to. So I must be nice as well. I mean after all we ALL get to express our opinions. i mean seriously, nowadays since the last incident with a special person everybody has been SOOOO worried about offending other people.

I mean seriously, I can play any set of rules without problem and it has been said that i suck balls at CoD. So I hope the people who want to actually make the damned tourney a success would just suck in their gut and go to the meeting and find out what is actually happening without having to search for a single relevant post every 3 pages.

*Yar i read the entire thread just to make sure what the hell was going on. I know some people didn't.

happy days...

See you on the front line.


Added on August 21, 2008, 11:47 pmDieeeee lar u pixy. =) oh wait, I'm spamming again, and that is a big no no!!! Please be reminded that in no way do i represent my clan's opinions and as such stand alone in all that I say. If I do offend anyone it is entirely intentional and I hope you see a doctor who will then prescribe something for your short-temperedness.

i'm such a good boy lar...
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wat meeting ... i dunno also ?
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i see everything is brewing up nicely
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QUOTE([ESP�)
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WHAT MEETING ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!
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You didn't read the last page at all, did you? >.<
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wat meeting ... i dunno also ?
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crashtec is gonna organize a meeting with in2 to discuss the RnR for WGT tourney. This way, the RnR is made by majority. We'll discuss and debate all we want during the meeting. Read the last few pages.. crashtec did ask team captain/leader to pm him ur details


Added on August 22, 2008, 10:04 amjust curious.... there no team reserve for cs?

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only 3 teams. looks like the CS competition wont be going on.
And with the current time and situation , there will not be a competition.

All you COD players get those friends who play DotA. and let me know!!.. biggrin.gif
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crashtec is gonna organize a meeting with in2 to discuss the RnR for WGT tourney. This way, the RnR is made by majority. We'll discuss and debate all we want during the meeting. Read the last few pages.. crashtec did ask team captain/leader to pm him ur details


Added on August 22, 2008, 10:04 amjust curious.... there no team reserve for cs?
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International rules please.

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hurmm i was hoping the rules will be quite similar to SKOTH 2 and Singapore WCG. But again, i think most players dun wan that.. so it might be Domi,Sabo n SnD.. I dunno.. let's discuss this during the meeting
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Cs cancel eh?
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Babo Violent! I got the game but I couldn't connect to overseas connection for f**ks.....the extreme lag caused me to joined the spectators instead lol...there should be some local server for this game man...I want to try...looks so nice to play....

@t3quila:enough,don't start it again.let team leaders go meeting and discuss.
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since cs cancel the prize money add to the COD4 prize money ^^ V
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What the point is...


THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS INTERNATIONAL RULES. IF YOU TAKE THE TIME TO ACTUALLY CHECK WHICH I'M SURE YOU HAVEN'T CAUSE IF YOU DID YOU WOULDN'T BE WHINING HERE, NO 3 COMPETITIONS OVERSEAS HAVE USED THE SAME RULES. THE ONLY "MOD" WHICH HAS BEEN USED IS PAM4 AND THE PROMOD WHICH IS A BETA TO PAM4.

THERE ARE NO STANDARD INTERNATIONAL RULES. I HOPE YOU ALL UNDERSTAND THAT. WHAT CRASHTEC WAS TRYING TO SAY IS THAT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME PLEASE START UP YOUR OWN TOURNEY AND TALK TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE SET UP TOURNEYS OVERSEAS.

And now we return you to your regular thread time.
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chill sanc!
remember wad heppend when SMC?? ^^V kekekekeke
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I would prefer if malaysian have their own standards. But i will not diss the regional SnD standards tho.

I would like to absorb the SnD standards in OUR snd, but still would like to play other game modes. But the number of game modes might be reduced, especially by removing HQ, since it has been rated imba by some players. It is however, possible to have more than one game mode in WGT, depending on how people vote during the meeting.

Remember that the WGT will be fixed according to what you all vote for, so long as it is plausible and agreed upon.

Also, i will most likely be doing the server settings, but i will release the settings once its done so teams can train with them. Obviously it will be tested first to ensure it doesnt farkap during the tourney smile.gif

I never changed anything for any RnR, most decisions were made by captains and finalized by the organizers. My influence only got so far as suggesting an alternative to apply your ideas, which is usually easier to accept than a total change of a system. Remember that, no matter what we say in the meeting, it is the organizers and sponsors who agree with the settings. If they dont agree, it doesnt matter what we say.

We are lucky organizers of these events have been very open. That is also why our response in Malaysia is far better than other countries, which is also why I would like to bring us to a better direction where rulesets are concerned.

[ESP].Death

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way to go brian ^^
awating the settings ^^V

cant wait

waiting anxiously ^^
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QUOTE(AeonStrife @ Aug 22 2008, 07:07 PM)
way to go brian ^^
awating the settings ^^V

cant wait

waiting anxiously ^^
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omg, i just replied and 2 seconds later you reply de.. this is not MSN Messenger laaaaaaaa...

zzz
Go eat dinner and get off the PC laaaa
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What the point is...


THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS INTERNATIONAL RULES. IF YOU TAKE THE TIME TO ACTUALLY CHECK WHICH I'M SURE YOU HAVEN'T CAUSE IF YOU DID YOU WOULDN'T BE WHINING HERE, NO 3 COMPETITIONS OVERSEAS HAVE USED THE SAME RULES. THE ONLY "MOD" WHICH HAS BEEN USED IS PAM4 AND THE PROMOD WHICH IS A BETA TO PAM4.

THERE ARE NO STANDARD INTERNATIONAL RULES. I HOPE YOU ALL UNDERSTAND THAT. WHAT CRASHTEC WAS TRYING TO SAY IS THAT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME PLEASE START UP YOUR OWN TOURNEY AND TALK TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE SET UP TOURNEYS OVERSEAS.

And now we return you to your regular thread time.


your caps lock key spoil? looks like you are shouting...hmmm?

dont raise your voice, improve your arguement....

This post has been edited by marvintwj: Aug 22 2008, 07:18 PM
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QUOTE(crashtec @ Aug 22 2008, 07:05 PM)
I would prefer if malaysian have their own standards. But i will not diss the regional SnD standards tho.

I would like to absorb the SnD standards in OUR snd, but still would like to play other game modes. But the number of game modes might be reduced, especially by removing HQ, since it has been rated imba by some players. It is however, possible to have more than one game mode in WGT, depending on how people vote during the meeting.

Remember that the WGT will be fixed according to what you all vote for, so long as it is plausible and agreed upon.

Also, i will most likely be doing the server settings, but i will release the settings once its done so teams can train with them. Obviously it will be tested first to ensure it doesnt farkap during the tourney smile.gif

I never changed anything for any RnR, most decisions were made by captains and finalized by the organizers. My influence only got so far as suggesting an alternative to apply your ideas, which is usually easier to accept than a total change of a system. Remember that, no matter what we say in the meeting, it is the organizers and sponsors who agree with the settings. If they dont agree, it doesnt matter what we say.

We are lucky organizers of these events have been very open. That is also why our response in Malaysia is far better than other countries, which is also why I would like to bring us to a better direction where rulesets are concerned.

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IMPORTANT INFORMATION TO ALL


Guys there are a few things all of you should know.

1st of all. Committee decided to break the news now and not later. The MAIN purpose of this event is to raise funds for 2 charity homes. I will provide the details of these charities as soon as i can confirm it with my lecturer. As all of you should know, The SCG08 committee is made of of 100% students from sunway university college. This event is actually a project that we have to complete before October @@.

2nd. NewEra is now our sponsor and im glad to say that we might increase the prize money for both COD4 events.

3rd. DotA competitions are to be held on the 6th Saturday. and COD4 categories FFA n TEAM are to be held on the 7th. Details will be release shortly

4th. We are most likely are to set up a website for all updates latest news etc etc . the webpage will be given out shortly.

5th. GUYS I NEED ALL OF YOU TO COOPERATE AND PLEASE SUBMIT AND COMPLETE PAYMENTS BEFORE 31st AUGUST.

To complete payments you can :

arrange for WALK IN PAYMENT to
Jason Philip Tham 012 699 6926

or

pay directly to Sunway Rock Cafe @ Jln Pjs 11/20 Bandar Sunway.

Please keep your attention here for the time being.

REMINDER AGAIN

PLEASE COMPLETE ALL PAYMENTS AND SUBMISSION OF FORMS BEFORE 31st OR YOUR RESERVATION WILL BE AUTOMATICALLY CANCELED
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yeay!! prize increase on cod4 !! w00t~! $.$ jackpot! hahahaha

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YES!! SUNDAY!!! WOO
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why no wc3 and sc?
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QUOTE(marvintwj @ Aug 22 2008, 07:16 PM)
your caps lock key spoil? looks like you are shouting...hmmm?

dont raise your voice, improve your arguement....
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Looks like you didn't read the post.

Please try to make it for the meeting so it can be explained in detail.
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DUDE finally theres an SC guy in here. YES!!!. i wish i could put starcraft in but there arent enough players to begin the competition with.
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Why are they banning UAV and Skorpion? cry.gif
It wouldn't hurt to have a mini primary weapon unsure.gif
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OctoberRaz, the front page hasn't been updated yet. The new R&R hasn't been updated into the drop down menu.
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QUOTE([ESP�)
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OctoberRaz, the front page hasn't been updated yet. The new R&R hasn't been updated into the drop down menu.
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unfortunately, october doesn't have access to juz_mark's account.
neither do i. so we currently are unable to update the first page.
juz_mark is finding time to update it now.
sorry for the inconvenience to all.

ps. patience is a virtue xP


Added on August 23, 2008, 1:12 am
QUOTE(OctoberRaz @ Aug 20 2008, 06:12 PM)
The poll is closed now. and the votes have been counted.

Majority votes this Malaysian (edited) RnR
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

So this is final. we will use this R n R for the tournament. FFA players please refer to this

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

this is for anyone that is left out on the current COD4 tourney rules. biggrin.gif
and just another reminder, FFA for COD4 is now RM30 per person thumbup.gif

This post has been edited by Zephrus: Aug 23 2008, 01:12 AM
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post Aug 23 2008, 01:21 AM

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QUOTE(Zephrus @ Aug 23 2008, 01:05 AM)
unfortunately, october doesn't have access to juz_mark's account.
neither do i. so we currently are unable to update the first page.
juz_mark is finding time to update it now.
sorry for the inconvenience to all.

ps. patience is a virtue xP


Added on August 23, 2008, 1:12 am
this is for anyone that is left out on the current COD4 tourney rules.  biggrin.gif
and just another reminder, FFA for COD4 is now RM30 per person  thumbup.gif
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Hmm, organizers please take note that you might not have enough time to do both FFA and Team games on the same day. I suggest running all games on the same day, while finishing finals the next day.
Or Run the Team games up till Semis on the first day, then finish up FFA and Finals on sunday.
U could do this for both Dota and COD4/


Added on August 23, 2008, 1:23 am
QUOTE(MYNAMEISJASON @ Aug 23 2008, 12:04 AM)
Why are they banning UAV and Skorpion? cry.gif
It wouldn't hurt to have a mini primary weapon unsure.gif
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Skorpion is not banned in this tourney.

Skorpion ban is for TWL PAM4.

This post has been edited by crashtec: Aug 23 2008, 01:23 AM
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QUOTE(crashtec @ Aug 23 2008, 01:21 AM)
Hmm, organizers please take note that you might not have enough time to do both FFA and Team games on the same day. I suggest running all games on the same day, while finishing finals the next day.
Or Run the Team games up till Semis on the first day, then finish up FFA and Finals on sunday.
U could do this for both Dota and COD4/
Woah fast reply..
Alright. Taken into consideration.
I'll discuss with others tmr. TY biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(t3quila @ Aug 22 2008, 12:46 PM)
International rules please.
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Tai lo.. there is no international rules... :/

Unless you can prove to the community there is one, i would gladly put it up.

Firstly, you all have a misconception that SnD is the International Rule. I can tell you that, unless you have had experience with international games, PAM4 itself is the only standard in COD4. In fact, some countries use PROMOD, which is stupidly close to CS. The rest of the world do NOT play only SnD, they also play TDM, Sabotage and Domination. Each competition, server and ruleset have different server settings. If this was a standard, i would have used it long ago.

The only reason why you'd want to play ONLY SnD is because a lot of people are trying to make it close to CS, pull CS players over because COD4 in other countries are actully lacking players and clans. I believe a lot of former CS player want an easy cross over, most likely something to brag about "i beat the best COD4 team, and i dont even play the game!" type of shit.

I dread this, since i left cs because it was dull. I don't want this game to be like CS, it shouldn't be. By taking away perks and weapons, you turn this game into something less than CS. CS has an economy, something that does not exist here in COD4, albeit being a little silly (why would Counter-terrorists bring money to a mission?) I do not really understand why people would want to turn a Warfare game into a Counter-Terrorist game. There's CSS, go to it. Clearly, the name states "Modern Warfare".

Eventually people who play COD4 to PLAY COD4 will turn to COD5, which in time will eventually kill COD4 in the future. Then some moron will try turn COD5 into CS, which will also eventually kill the game. Learn something new, if you keep doing the same things, you get the same results. As technology gets better, people will start drifting towards better graphics, better gameplay and eventually better systems.

Why do i foresee this? Look at CS now, how CSS is trying its best to accomadate and kill CS1.6. You may not see this as players, in fact, all these are backroom politics..

Unlike CS, COD4's current "International Rules" disables a lot of things, which in my humble opinion, wastes this games potential. You dont see CS disabling guns and items.

Unless you can make it different, you cannot compete with the likes of other upcoming FPS games, in fact, you make it the same as older games.

This post has been edited by crashtec: Aug 23 2008, 01:40 AM
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Well said.
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QUOTE(OctoberRaz @ Aug 22 2008, 08:58 PM)
IMPORTANT INFORMATION TO ALL
Guys there are a few things all of you should know.

1st of all. Committee decided to break the news now and not later. The MAIN purpose of this event is to raise funds for 2 charity homes. I will provide the details of these charities as soon as i can confirm it with my lecturer. As all of you should know, The  SCG08 committee is made of of 100% students from sunway university college. This event is actually a project that we have to complete before October @@.

2nd. NewEra is now our sponsor and im glad to say that we might increase the prize money for both COD4 events.

3rd. DotA competitions are to be held on the 6th Saturday. and COD4 categories FFA n TEAM are to be held on the 7th. Details will be release shortly

4th. We are most likely are to set up a website for all updates latest news etc etc . the webpage will be given out shortly.

5th. GUYS I NEED ALL OF YOU TO COOPERATE AND PLEASE SUBMIT AND COMPLETE PAYMENTS BEFORE 31st AUGUST.

To complete payments you can :

arrange for WALK IN PAYMENT to
Jason Philip Tham 012 699 6926

or

pay directly to Sunway Rock Cafe @ Jln Pjs 11/20 Bandar Sunway.

Please keep your attention here for the time being.

REMINDER AGAIN

PLEASE COMPLETE ALL PAYMENTS AND SUBMISSION OF FORMS BEFORE 31st OR YOUR RESERVATION WILL BE AUTOMATICALLY CANCELED
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1. Charity, hmm, good to know that gamers have a heart of gold! .tongue.gif
2. Yes, New Era is involved. Expect more money just nothing with 6 zeros.
3. Do not split the tournaments. have both tournaments run at the same time to the quarter finals and then continuing on the 2nd day. did you guys forget what i told you?
4. quick quick.
6. don't be a lame ass, everyone get there and do your bit for charity!
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@.@ Okay... But can you bring CoD back to its roots? To be honest, I never liked SnD for CoD4 itself. I'm more of a domination lover(watafak sounds wrong).

I've seen CoD2 Matches in the old days. They were really a change from CS:S. Spectacular and Tactical at the same time so to say. To add more to the topic, CoD4 was "meant" to compete against the CS gameplay, ever so since they made a SnD mode.

HQ is random and TDM is pointless. Neither of those game modes are suitable for spectator-ship and any level of competitive gaming. Conclusion, Domination for CoD Junkies and SnD for tactical players. *NO HARDCORE, Geez.. How many times must I mention that lol.

Plz Plz Plz Plz!!! drool.gif SnD & Domination. Btw u can't use Sabotage cuz its phoqued up.

Just a suggestion for future events.

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QUOTE(t3quila @ Aug 23 2008, 11:42 AM)
@.@ Okay... But can you bring CoD back to its roots? To be honest, I never liked SnD for CoD4 itself. I'm more of a domination lover(watafak sounds wrong).

I've seen CoD2 Matches in the old days. They were really a change from CS:S. Spectacular and Tactical at the same time so to say. To add more to the topic, CoD4 was "meant" to compete against the CS gameplay, ever so since they made a SnD mode.

HQ is random and TDM is pointless. Neither of those game modes are suitable for spectator-ship and any level of competitive gaming. Conclusion, Domination for CoD Junkies and SnD for tactical players. *NO HARDCORE, Geez.. How many times must I mention that lol.

Plz Plz Plz Plz!!!  drool.gif  SnD & Domination. Btw u can't use Sabotage cuz its phoqued up.

Just a suggestion for future events.
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Actually, it has been said that Domination be part of International events, this was pointed out by shoutcasters Tobi while i was in singapore.
They believe Dom is tactical, if the server settings are correct.

Also, i've always wanted to have a 1 per class competition, where each team can only have 1 per class, 1 assault, 1 specs, 1 demo, 1 sniper and 1 mg. This way, you dont need to limit the perks or weapons, since they are tied to the classes.

It was fun when we used to play default smile.gif

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