Please save a slot for SWL.RvG and SWL.PeW for CoD4. =)

How do you 'reverse' slots. =P Hahah, long time no see mesti ejek sikit.

Haha, I posted on the previous page. Booked slot for two teams. =)

SWL.RvG
SWL.PeW

for CoD4

Also, please don't change the rules at the last minute. x_x Thanks. =)

This post has been edited by Grr: Aug 14 2008, 06:55 PM

Well, if you're going to be using the SG ruleset, then go SG rules all the way. If you're going to be using Malaysian ruleset, then go for it all the way. Now we're just waiting for you to tell us what you're going to be using so we can train for it. I don't mind either one, really, but my preference is the Malaysian ruleset.

Unlike some of the people who have posted in this thread, some of us who actually have competitive experience playing in local tournaments are able to comment on it fairly. I would say that our ruleset allows for greater variety and tactics whereas the SG ruleset's biggest advantage is that it allows for standardization. That distills the game into who shoots first and more accurately (and tactics, of course). You can't say that because we want our local tourney rules that we're biased and vice versa. It's just what we're comfortable with and what we've practiced the most. If the organizers can't make up their minds, we should allow for the majority to decide/allow for team captains to vote. =)

[SWL.PeW]*Grr

This post has been edited by Grr: Aug 19 2008, 10:27 AM

Thank you. =)

I would like to reserve a slot for FFA CoD4 - [SWL.PeW]*Grr

Thanks.

Because we have voted and the majority of us would prefer Malaysian rules. Don't worry, if your team is good enough, it doesn't matter what ruleset the organizers are using because your skill will shine through. =) There's still the WGT later on and if [XEF] would like to organize a tourney with international rules, I'm sure most of us will be there. =) Cheers.

Yes, and it also completely sterilizes the fun and variety out of the game. If you would like another vote, you can ask the organizers to get another one and we'll get ONLY the team captains to vote. And that whole bit about saving time? It's a myth. Here it is coming from someone who has helped with organizing and running CoD4 tournaments on with local rulesets and 'international' rulesets.

Honestly, like I pointed out earlier, I don't mind either ruleset. On the other hand, if you were to force me to vote, I would vote Malaysian rules. You can call me kuno, old-fashioned, backward, whatever, but it doesn't change my mind that the Malaysian ruleset is much more fun to play with. It also levels a lot of the playing ground with the perks available.

You see, with international rulesets, once there is a visible gap between teams, it just gets bigger every tournament. New teams can't catch up much to the big boys because you can't change your perks to give you an advantage over the other team and changing your tactics too much isn't going to make much of a difference against the big boys. All it boils down to is how sharp you are with your weapon. The Malaysian ruleset allows for many different variations. You can be strong in one map and weak in another but with the right combination of perks, you CAN match your opponents to complete your objective, especially in Domination and HQ. Changing your tactics brings about a whole different style of gameplay, especially with those two maps sometimes enabling you to get surprise wins against teams that might look stronger on paper.

Now, if you wanted a change in to the international ruleset because you did not have much joy in local tournaments, trust me, you're not going to get much better results with an international ruleset unless you get lucky with your brackets. So, again, if you like, you can ask the organizers to call another vote but I don't think the results are going to change.

I'm not quite sure what you're trying to say here. A lot of tournaments use international rules? Cool. I didn't say otherwise. Uh, I want to point out that you highlighted CGS who play CS:S, not CoD4. The list is pretty, though. ^^

From the list you highlighted, it clearly states CSS in brackets. =/ I didn't know CGS would be having CoD4. Anyway, no use debating. If YOU feel that international rules clearly are better for the Malaysian CoD4 scene, then YOU should lobby for it more vigorously. We've had our say in the matter, and the organizers have changed the RnR to suit the majority. When the next tourney comes along, you're more than welcome to say what you need to say to the organizers. Fair? =)

p.s. Dunno why got an extra post from me. =/

*sob*

You're not getting what I'm saying. Okay, for the last time before I go and get work done: If you can convince the organizers to hold another poll where all team captains vote, then do it. They have already finalized the rules and they said they don't want to change it any more, though, so your chances of getting that is very low. It's not up to you and me.

Yes, that I know already. You might want to pass the message on to Faliq/newbi3s, though.

Yes, but since the RnR is already finalized, what are you going to do about it? Are you going to whine about it or just play? Sometimes I understand the need for the BfNut slogan. XEF leaders/team captains, please rein it in. Thank you. =)

Actually, if you can't beat other Malaysian teams it's not much use trying to hope to beat international-standard teams. XD

Anyway, looks like the matter is settled. All this fawning for 'international' standard rules was getting on my nerves.

You know, the only divisive opinion has come from the XEF guys. That's probably why crashtec is so pissed. Why can't a simple compromise be reached? There were 3 people who offered to make the SnD mode just like the international version that you wanted, but yet there is still a demand to make the whole tournament tailor to your needs. Sure, voice your opinion. Sure, be disappointed when the majority wins. However, don't be a bunch of sour grapes and try to force your way. Even the JEDI guys have said they'll play with the Malaysian rules. If the TBun and Blitz tournaments were open to them, they would have come down then to play our rules, I'm sure. If the guys who play SnD almost exclusively have no problem playing the Malaysian rules, why should you? While crashtec may have been more vocal about it than I would have been, he does echo what I and a couple of other team captains think. I'll be keeping an eye out for you guys at the tournament.

This just shows you're not very good at HQ. If anything, we should say no to Dom. Aiyah, I'll save the rest of the comments for the meeting. I don't really want to start this up again.

You didn't read the last page at all, did you? >.<

In fists. Payment made directly to your face.

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I'm kidding. Have to find some way to keep myself awake at work.

What kind of tanks? Sonic? Flame? Mammoth?

Haha, it was a fun tourney. Congrats to the winners and a big shoutout to the organizers (& New Era/King Kong) for all the hard work in getting the tourney to run as smoothly as possible. Hope you guys met your targets for the project. <3

p.s. omg just realized the sonic tank was from Dune 2k. Classic!