aiyoh akem.. i dunno u can be so emo.. i was joking mah...
u can lost respect to me.. but dun drag along my clanmates
i was the one who make statement.. i was posting based on wut i experience with u guys
u guys love wut to use last stand.. it's not something bad, i just state it out..

right

so i see the new RnR for 5v5, but what abt the FFA?

is the FFA thing gonna be 36 ppl dumped into those maps to fight among themselves to see whos top, and so called "King of COD4" or is there some sort of structure like there was for ACGC?

what default classes will there be or can participants choose their own?

also juzMarks u should update the 1st post with the new rules to make it easier for guys to see whats what..

the international rules only apply to the SnD mode.y dont we apply the international rules to the SnD map only?for other modes we use the normal rules we have set earlier.this way we can still train for the international rules and have fun with the local rules in the other game modes.IMO that would be a good compromise.

as much as i prefer international rules even though i dont like it 100%(no sway n stuff like that) cause it can prepare us for the future(pam4 promod watever) i think its 2 late to change it now.alot of teams have been training very hard on the local rules n it ll be unfair to them.but  if just the snd map rules we change the rules i think it wont be so bad.

That was what i suggested and applied to the server settings. but some people are just not satisfied. I am thoroughly dissapointed. Firstly.. if you ACTUALLY READ THE FREGGIN R&R...

Rule Changes:
� The Organizers reserve the right to modify the rules as needed. This includes changes due to software updates or releases, competition committee decisions and all other changes deemed necessary to online tournaments.
� Teams are responsible to check the rules on a regular basis and prior to every match to ensure they are in complete compliance. Teams must understand that rules listed are guidelines to ensure fair and competitive play and are subject to interpretation by the administrators based on the spirit of the game.

i will NOT vote. Simply because i do not care.
i will ensure my team is ready for any rules you throw at us and i will be gunning for XEF.
i will SEND you home, on the first day, the first match. AGAIN.

The first few times i felt bad, simply because XEF has been around for so long, your participation over the months of competitive play had earned my respect. But when you become a nuisance and not justify it convincingly, without purpose and without rationale, you become an enemy of the community, you make me an enemy and an enemy you shall have.

I hope you all have fun. I despise fighting over petty things, when everything was already settled.
Ultimately, you have never been in the organizers shoes, all you do is complain when things dont go right.
So if things dont go right here or if things dont start on time, please dont complain, they tried their best, you made it worse.
Thanks for wasting everyone's time.

i will SEND you home, on the first day, the first match. AGAIN.

You just want to fight international teams? Because you think Malaysian standard is not good enough? The community is just starting to grow and you want to pull it down?

pika dont post when u r angry la.u might say something u regret later
wah that a touch too cruel man...

and to the organizer pls remember the general rule.u cant always make every1 happy.just make sure the majority are.i hope crashtec n my suggestion can be taken into consideration as well.

Ladies and Gentlemen,

I would like to say something before all these things get out of hand. Firstly, if most of you remember, the rule set made in malaysia was FOR the malaysian community. It was agreed upon by numerous team leaders, not only myself, together with NewEra Malaysia to provide these rules, apply them in all upcoming local competition as a promotion to the game. We all agreed that day, that focusing on 1 game mode will kill the game, not only that, it will kill CS 1.6, which NewEra, WCG, WGT and ESWC still currently run.

Unlike singapore, the CALL OF DUTY 4 : Modern Warfare clans here are much larger. This creates a bigger gaming industry in Malaysia and i hope it will not consist of the same group of people when COD4 eventually dies out.

I helped create this community for them to be closer, heard and also allow them to play with the rules they are comfortable with. This also helps promote the game, its uniqueness and its system without limiting the game's system too much. There ARE no international rules, simply because there hasn't been an International competition, WGT is the closest we can get so far, with the Regionals & Leagues i am planning soon, we might go big. But remember that WGT is local, regardless. The reason why they use the WCG ruleset (which will be modified soon) is because they want to have a good reference for their sponsors, Intel & ASUS. The same reason why organizers f*** up the communities.

I must stress that the reason we dont use international rules is because there isn't one. Secondly, we don't need to pull players from CS, thirdly I dont WANT to. [ESP] supports gaming, that is why we try very hard not to pull players away from their games in turn, we gain their support whenever there is need for it. In order for the gaming industry to grow, there needs to be coherent support from each game, clan and community, so that sponsors and companies will be more supportive and understanding of our stature.

I want the current clans to be stronger without the need of international support but at the same time aid those countries that have limited teams.
In all honesty, i didn't like the WCG Singapore rules due to the fact that it is too close to other games, it might either kill the other games or vice versa. The core groups who played COD4 for the current rules may leave to newer games because of it and CS clans might come over, killing CS in the process.

Before applying the rulesets, please think about the future of the INDUSTRY, not the game, not your company, not your competition. THe rule set in singapore also makes it longer for games to complete, giving you time constraints as a organizer. Normal Malaysian games, although having multiple game modes, lasts from 45-60 minutes TOTAL, where as 1 game of 14 rounds in SnD with the WCG ruleset will last you an hour EACH set. Which means a game that goes to a tie breaker, might reach a total of 3 hours. IF all teams were as strong as each other, a 16 team game will last a total of 12 hours to the finals, without a group stage. A problem i faced while running the WCG in Singapore.

As an organizer, im speaking for those who had organized COD4 competitions before... DO you have the time? DO your sponsors AGREE with what you are planning? Are the competitors HAPPY with your current system? Will the SYSTEM function during the process of the competition?
A choice must be made, i hope you understand the consequences.

All i can say is, the WCG Singapore rule set had its advantages. It was easy to apply, you didnt need an expert behind the servers, so long as he knew the exec codes. But that was singapore. I don't know how it will fare here in Malaysia, since the rule sets are also ready with only required exec codes to be run.

With Highest Regards,
[ESP].Death
[ESP].Gaming,
Play Hard, Go Pro.
Gamers for Gaming.

However, in support for the organization and community, I will be sending 1 more team [ESP].eGo and will be joining the FFA regardless of cost.
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[ESP].Death - FFA
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[ESP].eGo - COD4 Team
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