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post Dec 4 2012, 11:26 AM

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I m staying near Bandar Puteri Klang.

Would like to take my Black color Camry for a car wax or detailing. I want shining body.

Any recommended workshop pls?
jakesean
post Dec 4 2012, 11:35 AM

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just applied Permanon Platinum last Saturday, now a short review after 2 days...

prep work before applying Permanon Platinum was shampoo with Meguiars Gold Class, claying with Hecta PL, then very light polishing with Meguiars Ultimate Polish to remove the stains, and then following up with another wass with Meguiars Gold Class again to make sure that all polishing residue has been removed..

So then i applied the permanon platinum, mixing 20ml of permanon platinum and filled the provided spray bottle with clean filtered water. after finishing the whole car, i followed up with Meguiars Ultimate Detailer (UQD)..

The day after, Sunday, i did a quick wipe down with ONR and then used the 2 in 1 revitalizer as sort of a detailer, shine was nice after that, but could also be because of UQD.

overall, the shine before detailing with UQD (Permanon only) was OK, but after applying UQD, shine was good, very wet looking finish, one word, nice! and i wouldnt say that beading properties for Permanon Platinum was that great either.. more of a disappointment.

after the super heavy downpour in KL yesterday, the roof wasnt beading water properly at all.. very disappointed.. also did apply permanon platinum onto the windscreen, half of the whole area so that i could see the difference, and during the downpour, beading was also ok, similar to using OCW on the windscreen, however i feel OCW did better on the windscreen..

However, on the windscreen where the wiper doesnt wipe, water wasnt beading at all on.. rain water was was just flowing down, first time ever happening on my ride since 2 years ago i bought the car.. have always been applying OCW and sometimes Rain X from day 1 on the windscreen, no disappointments with OCW and Rain X, with Permanon, very disappointing. No pics tho coz it was raining like crazy, visibility was crap and lots of traffic.

whereas on the roof, water beading wasnt that great, to my liking, i expected more from Permanon Platinum.. water bead feels like after washing with Meguiars Ultimate Wash and Wax, without applying any sort of wax..

anyhow, since i have about 50% of permanon platinum left, i will give it another go once in maybe another 2-3 months, or once i feel that its necessary.

ultimately, what made me purchased Permanon Platinum was the good reviews on its beading properties, its durability and also the ease of washing off dirt (some positive charge or something that doesnt bond dirts to the paint). so in terms of water beading, very disappointed. OCW + UQD gets the job done much better by a mile..

next review would probably be washing of the dirt after more heavy downpours, might probably wash the car in 2-3 days time and see how easily the stains get removed.

This post has been edited by jakesean: Dec 4 2012, 11:40 AM
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post Dec 4 2012, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(jakesean @ Dec 4 2012, 11:35 AM)
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I used the PG Polymer Sealant and it beaded great smile.gif even the dew from this morning looks amazing!!!
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post Dec 4 2012, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(jakesean @ Dec 4 2012, 11:35 AM)
just applied Permanon Platinum last Saturday, now a short review after 2 days...

prep work before applying Permanon Platinum was shampoo with Meguiars Gold Class, claying with Hecta PL, then very light polishing with Meguiars Ultimate Polish to remove the stains, and then following up with another wass with Meguiars Gold Class again to make sure that all polishing residue has been removed..
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maybe consider skipping this step and just wipe off the residues with a clean m/f cloth? because the car wash has gloss/lubricating properties which may hinder the bonding of your new wax/sealant (which in this case permanon platinum)
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post Dec 4 2012, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Dec 4 2012, 11:53 AM)
maybe consider skipping this step and just wipe off the residues with a clean m/f cloth? because the car wash has gloss/lubricating properties which may hinder the bonding of your new wax/sealant (which in this case permanon platinum)
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i tried on the bonet, then i thought it would be a pain in the ass to buff off the whole car with MF, surely miss some parts.. haha.. laziness.. i thought about this as well, so what i did was just used more water and less shampoo solution so its very much lighter than the usual shampoo wash...
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post Dec 4 2012, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(alexng2208 @ Dec 4 2012, 12:43 PM)
I used the PG Polymer Sealant and it beaded great smile.gif even the dew from this morning looks amazing!!!
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is this wax?
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post Dec 4 2012, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(arayz @ Dec 4 2012, 12:23 PM)
is this wax?
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its polymer sealant or artificial wax (as compared to natural wax which is carnauba IMO)

i bought it because its cheap

main link here

http://www.pgpermaglass.com/index.php?opti...=286&Itemid=389

and kenneth from wetshine.net review-ed it here

http://wetshine.net/2011/04/18/permaglass-vs-meguiars/
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post Dec 4 2012, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(alexng2208 @ Dec 4 2012, 02:05 PM)
its polymer sealant or artificial wax (as compared to natural wax which is carnauba IMO)

i bought it because its cheap

main link here

http://www.pgpermaglass.com/index.php?opti...=286&Itemid=389

and kenneth from wetshine.net review-ed it here

http://wetshine.net/2011/04/18/permaglass-vs-meguiars/
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nice, i just get this lar plus the PG wash n wax.. save more money tongue.gif
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post Dec 4 2012, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(arayz @ Dec 4 2012, 01:36 PM)
nice, i just get this lar plus the PG wash n wax.. save more money tongue.gif
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hehe... better start slow and steady and get the techniques right first smile.gif

http://www.pgpermaglass.com/index.php?opti...=276&Itemid=389

you should have this too. after wash, just mix some shampoo into a spray / mist and use the clay bar to smooth out the paint

after that i used this too

http://www.pgpermaglass.com/index.php?opti...=291&Itemid=389

remove the black tar stains

on then i applied Soft 99 in the metallic can (since i have it at home, why not) to clean the paint

and then lastly (LSP) only the PG Polymer Sealant
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post Dec 4 2012, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Dec 3 2012, 10:50 AM)
For rinseless ONR or GO Waterless Car Wash

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Bro, the GO Waterless Car wash... Any idea where I can purchase it?

I wanted to try and compare it with the QD that I have. Quick solution for gloss and water beading.
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QUOTE(jakesean @ Dec 4 2012, 11:35 AM)
just applied Permanon Platinum last Saturday, now a short review after 2 days...

prep work before applying Permanon Platinum was shampoo with Meguiars Gold Class, claying with Hecta PL, then very light polishing with Meguiars Ultimate Polish to remove the stains, and then following up with another wass with Meguiars Gold Class again to make sure that all polishing residue has been removed..

So then i applied the permanon platinum, mixing 20ml of permanon platinum and filled the provided spray bottle with clean filtered water. after finishing the whole car, i followed up with Meguiars Ultimate Detailer (UQD)..

The day after, Sunday, i did a quick wipe down with ONR and then used the 2 in 1 revitalizer as sort of a detailer, shine was nice after that, but could also be because of UQD.

overall, the shine before detailing with UQD (Permanon only) was OK, but after applying UQD, shine was good, very wet looking finish, one word, nice! and i wouldnt say that beading properties for Permanon Platinum was that great either.. more of a disappointment.

after the super heavy downpour in KL yesterday, the roof wasnt beading water properly at all.. very disappointed.. also did apply permanon platinum onto the windscreen, half of the whole area so that i could see the difference, and during the downpour, beading was also ok, similar to using OCW on the windscreen, however i feel OCW did better on the windscreen..

However, on the windscreen where the wiper doesnt wipe, water wasnt beading at all on.. rain water was was just flowing down, first time  ever happening on my ride since 2 years ago i bought the car.. have always been applying OCW and sometimes Rain X from day 1 on the windscreen, no disappointments with OCW and Rain X, with Permanon, very disappointing. No pics tho coz it was raining like crazy, visibility was crap and lots of traffic.

whereas on the roof, water beading wasnt that great, to my liking, i expected more from Permanon Platinum.. water bead feels like after washing with Meguiars Ultimate Wash and Wax, without applying any sort of wax..

anyhow, since i have about 50% of permanon platinum left, i will give it another go once in maybe another 2-3 months, or once i feel that its necessary.

ultimately, what made me purchased Permanon Platinum was the good reviews on its beading properties, its durability and also the ease of washing off dirt (some positive charge or something that doesnt bond dirts to the paint). so in terms of water beading, very disappointed. OCW + UQD gets the job done much better by a mile..

next review would probably be washing of the dirt after more heavy downpours, might probably wash the car in 2-3 days time and see how easily the stains get removed.
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Thanks for sharing bro. I was thinking of getting it earlier too, but end up with Optimum Seal instead. (Didn't use yet, still feeling a bit lazy to apply it on my ride.) Always envy with the water beading effect.

So far what I have been doing to my ride is, ONR then OCW. ONR weekly, OCW bi-monthly. Occasionally just QD it with the mixture of water with thicker ONR liquid. To my surprise, this mixture of QD not bad. It can clean and it shines.

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QUOTE(MyWifeCar @ Dec 4 2012, 02:03 PM)
Bro, the GO Waterless Car wash... Any idea where I can purchase it?

I wanted to try and compare it with the QD that I have. Quick solution for gloss and water beading.
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Their place is in Sri Hartamas. Google it and you should find their facebook page and location. Their products are from Freedom Waterless Car Wash....if you like ONR then you'd love their products.
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post Dec 4 2012, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(jakesean @ Dec 4 2012, 11:35 AM)
just applied Permanon Platinum last Saturday, now a short review after 2 days...

prep work before applying Permanon Platinum was shampoo with Meguiars Gold Class, claying with Hecta PL, then very light polishing with Meguiars Ultimate Polish to remove the stains, and then following up with another wass with Meguiars Gold Class again to make sure that all polishing residue has been removed..

So then i applied the permanon platinum, mixing 20ml of permanon platinum and filled the provided spray bottle with clean filtered water. after finishing the whole car, i followed up with Meguiars Ultimate Detailer (UQD)..

The day after, Sunday, i did a quick wipe down with ONR and then used the 2 in 1 revitalizer as sort of a detailer, shine was nice after that, but could also be because of UQD.

overall, the shine before detailing with UQD (Permanon only) was OK, but after applying UQD, shine was good, very wet looking finish, one word, nice! and i wouldnt say that beading properties for Permanon Platinum was that great either.. more of a disappointment.

after the super heavy downpour in KL yesterday, the roof wasnt beading water properly at all.. very disappointed.. also did apply permanon platinum onto the windscreen, half of the whole area so that i could see the difference, and during the downpour, beading was also ok, similar to using OCW on the windscreen, however i feel OCW did better on the windscreen..

However, on the windscreen where the wiper doesnt wipe, water wasnt beading at all on.. rain water was was just flowing down, first time  ever happening on my ride since 2 years ago i bought the car.. have always been applying OCW and sometimes Rain X from day 1 on the windscreen, no disappointments with OCW and Rain X, with Permanon, very disappointing. No pics tho coz it was raining like crazy, visibility was crap and lots of traffic.

whereas on the roof, water beading wasnt that great, to my liking, i expected more from Permanon Platinum.. water bead feels like after washing with Meguiars Ultimate Wash and Wax, without applying any sort of wax..

anyhow, since i have about 50% of permanon platinum left, i will give it another go once in maybe another 2-3 months, or once i feel that its necessary.

ultimately, what made me purchased Permanon Platinum was the good reviews on its beading properties, its durability and also the ease of washing off dirt (some positive charge or something that doesnt bond dirts to the paint). so in terms of water beading, very disappointed. OCW + UQD gets the job done much better by a mile..

next review would probably be washing of the dirt after more heavy downpours, might probably wash the car in 2-3 days time and see how easily the stains get removed.
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Firstly bro, you don't use a shampoo like that to remove whatever polishing oils, that's why it is interfering with the Permanon bonding. To remove polishing oils you need a proper IPA wipedown and whatever equivalent may be used.

While this is an honest experience from you, this can be misleading.
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QUOTE(ZeroSP @ Dec 4 2012, 05:22 PM)
Firstly bro, you don't use a shampoo like that to remove whatever polishing oils, that's why it is interfering with the Permanon bonding. To remove polishing oils you need a proper IPA wipedown and whatever equivalent may be used.

While this is an honest experience from you, this can be misleading.
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Absolutely correct!

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post Dec 4 2012, 10:56 PM

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Nice thread will be spending reading from 1st post
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post Dec 4 2012, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(ZeroSP @ Dec 4 2012, 05:22 PM)
Firstly bro, you don't use a shampoo like that to remove whatever polishing oils, that's why it is interfering with the Permanon bonding. To remove polishing oils you need a proper IPA wipedown and whatever equivalent may be used.

While this is an honest experience from you, this can be misleading.
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to the non professionals (and even someone thats in the pro scene for so MANY years) may want to take note of this: http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/auto-d...html#post319835
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post Dec 5 2012, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Dec 4 2012, 11:37 PM)
to the non professionals (and even someone thats in the pro scene for so MANY years) may want to take note of this: http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/auto-d...html#post319835
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where do i get some ipa goodness around KL?

curi from uni science labs? smile.gif
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QUOTE(alexng2208 @ Dec 5 2012, 09:56 AM)
where do i get some ipa goodness around KL?

curi from uni science labs? smile.gif
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you want?
I have 2 bottles (2.5 L each)

didnt curi from my lab, i bought myself. huhuhu
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QUOTE(junbecks @ Dec 5 2012, 10:04 AM)
you want?
I have 2 bottles (2.5 L each)

didnt curi from my lab, i bought myself. huhuhu
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where you buy? what brand/pricing?
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Dec 5 2012, 10:48 AM)
where you buy? what brand/pricing?
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