Where i can get Makita 9227C ?

Best bought with polishing kit or just the unit itself?

http://twitpic.com/bkej1h after ~1 hour washing, ~3 hours claying (only the front, sigh) 2 hours of waxing the whole car...

http://twitpic.com/bkej7z finally got the mirror finish/glass silky gloss that i've always wanted XD

http://twitpic.com/bkejfl i should really bring out the DSLR from hibernation and not getting lazy with the phone camera rofl

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Added on December 9, 2012, 4:27 pmbro, can you compare this with the meguiar's water magnet? zerosp commented that this blows the water magnet away and from what i read here, it may not be enough to dry even one car? omg?

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Added on December 9, 2012, 4:28 pmcan consider looking up autogeek.net

or another fellow LYN seller selling it for rm700 (can nego! )

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Dec 9 2012, 04:28 PM

water magnet is enough to dry one car without wringing provided you rinse the car with free flowing water after wash.

Makita 9227C can be bought locally around RM800-850 new.

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Added on December 9, 2012, 6:48 pm

Honestly, I don't know what is with all the water magnet hype though... For me, the Cobra did the job for me and that's it.

This post has been edited by ZeroSP: Dec 9 2012, 06:48 PM

in a way meguiar's are all the hype here

so would really like to get the facts straight before pulling the trigger and deciding what to go with

Well, I like that straight opinion, which I never dare to put it on haha.

Well, I bought the Water Magnet for RM45, and its the best drying cloth I've ever used for my car.

Why I like Meguiar's is simply because I tried them and they worked quite well for me, so I stick to them.

Buy with the kit, you have no choice but to use them. If it suited you then you're fine. If not......
Buy it on it's own, then you have a problem of sourcing for some polishes and pads.....
The answer lies within you.

Nice job there. That's a good start.

If water just sticks to the surface (do not have healthy LSP), no drying cloth of any size would be able to dry the car without wringing. If you have a healthy LSP on the surface and can sheet 80% ~ 90% of the water off, both would be able to dry the car without the need to wring.

I don't know what's the price of the Cobra here, but if you check out both pricing at Autogeek, you'd see that the Water Magnet is cheaper and that's what it is - a cheap drying cloth. It works, but the more expensive Guzzler works better. This is where, I'd say, you'd get what you pay for.

I wouldn't call it 'all hype'. Some of their products are up there with the best, especially some of their Professional and Detailers line of products. Their consumer line (those that sells on the shelf of many lcoal shops) are better than most of the others there. If a shop is using Megs Professinal and Detailers line of products, I'd say they are using one of the best products available. Unfortunately, some of the people who are using them in these shops are another story. To me, these people are are just taking advantage of an already well established brand, but never know how to uphold them. Believe it or not, Autodetailer used to use the full line of Meguiars products, and even if they've already switched to another product line, I still see some of Meguiars products there.

The only problem I see here is people are marketing Meguiars here as an exclusive and premium products, which they are really not. But, that's the price we had to pay after the taxes and levys.

Works for me too. I still can't find any better alternatives for some of the Meguiars products that I'm currently using and fond of, but for a few others, I do, and Water Magnet is one of them. But if you like it, by all means stick with it. Just that you have to keep an open mind though. With time, better products would be coming out. Water Magnet has been around ever since I've started getting serious in detailing, and that was more than 10 years ago. 10 years is a long time for technology to catch up. If you have the chance and can afford one, I think you should try the Guzzler or something similar (which are also available). I actually have 3 Water Magnets and still have 1 that's in it's original package. I don't think I'll be opening it anything soon......hehehe.....

Oh...and there's an even better drying cloth then the Cobra Guzzler......HAHAHAHAHA.......

thanks for the comment bro.

just rained just now and played around with water beading by pouring/splashing water on my car lol:
http://twitpic.com/bkr49c
lol first time ever get to experience water beading effect. not very uniform though. rm20ish wax, cant expect much

not sure what kinda LSP levels/water repellent we're talking about, however the car was just entirely waxed, so i guess it has some decent LSP on?
and thanks for the feedback. really appreciate it. if you don't mind answering, what do you personally use btw? i personally am a "believer" of "you get what youi pay for" as well!

Well i guess my choice of wording ”all hype" is probably at mistake, however yes, i'm pretty much at same consensus as you are: meguiar's marketing in Malaysia along with their pricing in malaysia which even with taxes/levies, still shouldn't nett that much afaik.


lastly, what is this better drying cloth than cobra?
very interested!

by hand?
I would suggest that the lack of uniformity is from hand application not the price of the wax.

A couple of pics of water beading on one of my car. Sorry, not many beads, they're quite stubborn and always want to run off....hehehe....





And a crappy video shot with my cheapo hp of water sheeting....

Water sheeting

If you mean LSP, well....I'm starting to feel old and lazy nowadays, so I'm leaning more towards using coatings instead of the normal waxes/sealants. But my favourite combination used to be Zaino Z2Pro and top up with Zaino Z8 after every couple of washes. Optimum Car Wax is also my go-to just because is very convenient to use (as a spray wax), though durability is not as good as the Zainos. But, well, I don't mind that cuz I would more than always top up after every wash or two.

Duragloss Drying Towel (not the waffle weave) and Dodo Juice Supernatural Drying Towel...the latter is as big as a beach towel and can dry a whole bus without wringing!!! (figuratively speaking....hahahaha...)

Help guys! anything good to recommend to remove all the visible scratches? Swirl mark gone but scratches some of them are still there.

can try the scratch remover pen..someone selling over here at garage sales or you can opt to go ACE to buy the pen

Since you already have the Meg's Ultimate Compound, you can try a few more rounds of it. If you see the scratches slowly going away that mean you're on the right track. Just keep going. There are not many compound out there which is as aggressive but safe as Meg's Ultimate Compound. And remember, you're working by hand so it'll take more time and effort than using an aggressive machine.

hurm... will try though

thanks for the recommendation. hurm.. okay. Haha I'm using the Black and Decker Polisher. It's actually quite good for beginner. I've only did it twice but seems not so effective. Guess like what you have said need to do it a couple more times.

yeah its as you suggested.

so if i am applying it with a machine, even with the cheap kura kura wax, it'll be beading water like you see from expensive wax?

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Added on December 12, 2012, 12:48 ami see much thanks for the feedback.

from the pictures compared, i suppose even my water beading/water sheeting wasn't all too bad? i noticed i faced similar problems as you too as water just keeps running off and i can hardly take a good picture of it (i had to sprinkle water a couple of times to get some pretty beads LOL!)

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Added on December 12, 2012, 12:49 amtried viewing some of the videos from autogeek/meguiar's? product marketing/advertisement aside, i find them rather educational

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Added on December 12, 2012, 12:52 amB&D isn't really meant for polishing though and while it could fix light swirl marks etc, deep scratches could be difficult as proven by yourself. only way to go is just to give it a few more tries

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Dec 12 2012, 12:52 AM

yup. But for how long the beads last, that I dont know.

Maybe you should try the UC with a cloth....more aggressive that way...not to mention more control with how large of an area to compound/polish.

i see.

well the packaging says last up to 12 months ! (with highlights and exclamations omg! lol)
i'm gonna assume that 12 months is the car kept in garage and never driven

thats the spirit!