oooic.. next time i'll skip the washing after polishing.. good info for myself. never tried using IPA on clear coats before coz a few years ago i screwed up my LCD screen with IPA, so i stopped using IPA as a cleaner.. still have a 500ml bottle at home i use for cleaning processors, mobo, etc.. is OPC/Permanon's Hecta PL wipedown equivalent to IPA ? since i know OPC is a damn good cleaner...

anyways since i was free earlier this morning i did a test spot again on the bonnet, washed with soap, then did another wash with hecta pl(OPC finished), assuming that Hecta PL will remove any oils or whatsoever. then applied permanon platinum on one side, and OCW on the other for comparison purposes later in the week.

according to him, IPA may be harmful to the clear coats if not used correctly/carefully? or am i understanding him incorrectly?

This post has been edited by jakesean: Dec 5 2012, 02:11 PM

OPC is a cleaner, you need to rinse off after using else if left to dry it will have stains. IPA on the other hand, just spray and wipe off, it cleans but it is not so strong to leave stains.

And what Mike Phillips says is, usually when some detailer wanted to do some test spot, you need to tape up an area (like a square or etc etc), when he wipes IPA over the area after polishing, he forgot to strip off the masking tape. When IPA (alcohol) kena onto the tape, the tape will wrinkle, and then subsequently will pass down the unwanted effect to the masking tape covered surface. On normal usage, it doesn't have any issues. Just spray and wipe off like you would do with any QD.

yes you're understanding it perfectly fine. hence his opinions/preference to not use IPA/wipedowns.

in other words, use with your own discretion/caution

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Added on December 5, 2012, 2:38 pmthanks bro. looks like yours is much cheaper... cuz from AG: http://autogeek.commerce-search.net/search...rds=IPA&x=0&y=0

http://www.autogeek.net/carpro-eraser-ipa.html
hmm:


lol even smell also advertised... i might be including this in my january shopping list then? since i'm thinking of applying opti coat and they recommended to do IPA wipe downs prior to applying

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Dec 5 2012, 02:38 PM

Thanks Bro, too bad they are not selling the products. They only sell service together with their products.

I wonder since the product is so easy to use, why do we even need to call them and pay them to clean...

meaning 1 bottle RM25 lar?

haha

don;t think i need so much

Yes, Hecta PL can be used to remove polishing oil and existing wax but it is not recommended to be used on car body too often. Rinse with water asap to avoid hecta pl stay on the surface for too long.

Just a suggestion, what is your expectation for comparing wax vs Permanon coating in terms of durability? shine? dirt repellent? ease of maintenance? etc. FYI, water beading is not just a overall benchmark for glass coating products. If you are looking for nice water beading result, then wax is recommended but you have to apply regularly as it does not last long.

1 bottle Rm 50 (2.5L)

If you want, can sell you smaller amount.

Is it? Too bad indeed. I have tried the original Freedom and it's very decent. I guess they see more profit in providing services instead of selling them....unlucky us....

Do u guys know where can i buy those measuring cup huh ?? tq

shop selling cake supplies

giant
jusco
tesco
cake shop.

Ok spent quite some money on detailing product. want to make a 6 year old Vios shine again... It's paint is oxidize at certain part, and full with swirl, scratch and water mark. This is what I'm planning to do.

1 - Wash the car with Petronas durance wash and wax.. got 2 bottles forced to take as it comes with the lube during service
2 - clay the car when it's still wet using P&G Clay Bar
3 - Polish the car using Black & Decker Polisher + Merguirs Ultimate Compound
4 - Continue on with P&G Sealant + Black & Decker Polisher
5- Finish it with Merguirs Ultimate Quick Wax

Does the step above in the correct sequence? Googling on the techniques on each of these steps atm.

Guess so. I gave them a call, all they are trying to do was to convince you that their product is good and durable. One needs to be trained to use their product, if anyone cincai use might scratch your car.

They are having promotion now for 1 month package, this is what you get and their car wash can last how long how long...etc

....bla bla bla bla for 10 minutes.

In the end, "Would you like to come over and let us demo our products to you, sir?".

Me " Nope". Hang up.

The steps there looks ok, but the way you described your car as 'oxidize' and 'full with swirl, scratch and water marks', sounds like you're in for quite a looooong day there matey, especially when working only with a B&D. I hope you're using a compound pad with it. Good luck and don't forget to share your results/findings with us here ya.

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Added on December 7, 2012, 10:39 amSounds like typical Malaysian businesses desperate to make a sale by scare tactics.....

This post has been edited by KrisMas: Dec 7 2012, 10:39 AM

Ok wish me luck... i forseeee 6 - 7 hours at least.
I read somewhere that after i wash.. i better rinse it.. clean it up only start with claying right? haha. hope it would not cause more dmg.

The B&D do come with some cheap compound pad.. starting small and if I'm really into it i might upgrade to something better..

just keep the surface wet with the clay lube, and dont press too hard.
also dont stay in 1 area too long.

noted! i tested the clay on my Forte.. nothing much to clay la actually but it's really good. Just like what's being said by everyone... silky smooth after claying.

I have a few extra Cobra Waffle Weave to let go... Anyone interested do take a look Brand new from Autogeek. It works real well, can dry up 2 and a half car without the need to wring it.

errr...I think you mean 2 and a half cars WITH HEALTHY PROTECTION. No offence ya...just don't want people to be misinformed/misguided and have too much of an expectaions on the Cobra WW, then they'll be dissapointed.

The Cobra WW is a GREAT drying cloth. I personally have quite a few of them and loving them. Just that if the car's protection/wax/sealant is weak or non-existant, you won't be able to get much water to sheet of the paint, and you'd be having a whole lot of water to dry off the surface. One sedan roof full of water is all it'll take to fill the WW cloth and you'd need to wring it.

But, saying that, for those who really like to take care of their cars' aesthetics, you won't be dissapointed with it. It really SUCKS!!...(...of course I mean water la....hehehe....)

ok! done with the car. this is the image before it undergo, compound, sealant, and quick wax. Question! after doing all the steps mentioned the swirl mark were gone!!! most of it But now the problem is with the scratches as you can see in the attached image. Any idea how to remove them? Merguirs ultimate compound don't seem to work too well on them. I tried the compound one 1 area twice.. but still the deep visible scratches is there.



This post has been edited by kidmad: Dec 9 2012, 08:04 PM