K, I'm tired of new threads coming up asking the same thing and we're repeating the same answers again and again.

so here is THE thread. talk about it here, discuss it here.

need help on SEO and all other forms of how to move your site? come here.



I'll start (in no particular order)

1. Submit to search engine
2. Submit to directory
3. Do SEO (Search Engine Optimization) on your site whenever possible
4. Have good content

well, these are the 4 i have, which I think is good enough. In fact goldfries.com only did #4. #3 here and there.



good enough for me!

Anyway, must suggestion to all newbies as usual - MAKE GOOD CONTENT, since most people here are BLOG owners rather than actual company / corporate websites.

This post has been edited by goldfries: Aug 27 2008, 03:13 AM

how to submit to search engine?

google this : submit search engine google
or : submit search engine yahoo

you can try it for google/msn/yahoo - usually people only use these 3.

follow this useful cheat sheet to get started and never confused!

http://www.seomoz.org/blog/the-web-develop...seo-cheat-sheet

thanks for starting a thread ya... ^^ but i'm still blur blur. think will spend more time exploring.

Need consultant? Pay a bit, find someone at Lowyat member help you. Need Professional might pay more..

http://developers.evrsoft.com/seotool/

Scan the density of a keyword. Choose your keyword wisely

Rmb

Less is More
More is Less
Less doesnt mean NOTHING

The above meaning is choosing a damn popular keyword such as "money" over some not as popular keyword "money earning" doesn't mean you'll get more visitor. The more stuff you'll eventually get is COMPETITION. So choose something which has decent keyword search with less competition

Just my 0.24566 cent

Call Phase. The Key word have few phase, was mention Phase 1" money", Phase 2 " money earning" phase 3 " money earning program". Only deep study will do well. it can forward or reverse the word.

This post has been edited by clementcpteh: Aug 1 2008, 01:01 PM

i think this thread has to be pinned to avoid more threads like this.

btw - suddenly no one got question ah?

yea..its always been the same question even though its indirect..

how to add meta tag for every of my post in blogger? This will help search engine to look for it right?

Build links and increase ur PR, also read this useful tips http://www.liveseotips.com

Edit:
@paco
use wordpress plugin such as all in one seo and headspace, hope this help

This post has been edited by miccy: Aug 17 2008, 12:47 AM

You mean use wordpress plugin in blogger? Possible?

i'm not quite familiar with blogger, sorry i thought u were using self hosted wordpress blog, btw i dont think u have to put meta tag in it since blogspot is a part of google , so ke mana tak tumpah nasi kalau tak ke kuah

This post has been edited by miccy: Aug 17 2008, 12:54 AM

i submitted my URL to google search engine already... juz hope it can increase my traffic

noooo... you cannot do like that

when you submit to any search engine, you didn't get any chance in getting any traffic unless your website is niche.

Steps from Goldfries is consider the basic steps.

But there are around 6 more advanced steps to increase your traffic ranking.

5. Submit video to youtube, metacafe or break
6. Submit bulletin using Myspace, Facebook, Friendster
7. Submit to 100 more directory which you can do it manually or automactically by breaking the captcha code
8. buy expired domain ( domain which are 1 to 2 years old are consider the best in getting the traffic
9. Go out with Adwords.Advertise your website
10. Open blog with Blog.com , Blogger.com , wordpress.com and start writing your own content and link back to your website

I suggest you read my Internet Marketing Center Portal at http://www.sindiket.com

Download WebCeo and start tuning your website to match the related keywords

My web is no.1 in Google page for keyword "pemasaran internet"

Submit your website URL to other website is a good idea but it's not so perfect.

One of the Internet Marketer, he doesn't care anything about Search Engine but his website get to the top of search engine.

The most important is the meta section. If all your keyword can work very well, you will get to the top but It will take some times.

The Most Faster Ways
1. Spead more money on Advertising.
2. Use Sitemap and RSS.
3. Submit Your URL at Directories Website.
4. Try to spam the text but don't too over. If not, your website will get ban.
5. Use different keywords for each Topic/Title

If you follow everything above, your website will get to the top of search engine.

Advertising Website

Google Adwords
http://adwords.google.com

Hotmail Advertising
http://advertising.microsoft.com/hotmail

Microsoft adCenter
https://adcenter.microsoft.com/

Yahoo! Advertising Solutions
http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/as/

Clicksor
http://www.clicksor.com/

Media Shakers
http://www.mediashakers.com/

that might get you top of the search engines, but not Google.

Google has ways to prevent these things that are too easy to do.

For bloggers, if content is not your strength, just try blog-hopping first.

Another way of doing it, is to increase you pagerank. To do so, you need as many back links as possible. What you can do to get more back link is submit your entry to the following site. (of course you have to register)

http://negaraku.net , Malaysian one!
http://digg.com
http://stumbleupon.com
http://rockyourvote.net
http://fark.com

I'd suggest you go to Malaysian ones first. There's about 1000 visitors daily, at least 4-5 people will read your entry. Who knows, they might put your link on their blogs. hehehe

Hi all,

Wanna share a post of submitting to search engines for free. Hope it helps

To submit web site to Search Engines for better visibility

thanks jessica for your info..

btw, feel free to submit to http://link.sindiket.com

Hi moff17, Just submitted! Thanks!

just to share - site submission to search engines and directories aren't as helpful as getting site popularity as having good contents.

Besides good content + SEO, another method is using the current most popular social networking. forums... facebook... digg... comment on other blogs... etc, be active in blogosphere and social networking, it might help. Participate more, get exposure more.

Yeah, great point there! I just completed a *cosmetic surgery* on my blog...Think it looks more attractive now

hey edmx.... how do i put the icon in the post??? like i submitted a story from my blog... how do i put the 'fave' icon on that post????

I am totally a dummy on the SEO, search engine thingy etc.

My 2 cents for a good blog,

1. Good content
2. Post regularly
3. Mingle & join party, gathering, etc.
4. Be yourself

Cheers!

Those are just many ways. SEO helps you get visitors, but doesn't exactly make the blog popular.

as for posting frequency - it really depends on the blog. For me, my articles are anywhere from 3 to 7 days apart.

and i like your point #4 - BE YOURSELF, just as long as you don't be an ass, jerk or bitch la unless you want instant fame in a bad way.

hey goldfries, thanks 4 kind words there. im totally dummy on this SEO, etc thingy. I dont even know what RSS is. I just post n post n post what's on my mind and what i felt like ranting. perhaps one fine day, let's catch up over coffee, u teach this uncle a bit lar.

cheers!

RSS and blogging tips, I've already highlighted many on my site actually.

being yourself indeed is important. our blog / website is a representation of us.

thumbs up goldfries!

Choose something sensitive to write and you'll be popular on the next day either to be arrested or on the newspaper headline.

But I believe if you discover something first about someone popular, say Paris Hilton or Siti Nurhaliza.

as long as you don't end up in lokap la.

if i end up in lokap... who gonna hold candlelight vigil 4 me? hmm... perhaps all my socio political friends...

anyone in the All Blogs Alliance?

Write a good/useful/original content is the most important.

lol take good quality pictures of food!!! make ppl drool over the keyboard xD.... and another way is to join Blog Directories... quite good

yeah..but not during fasting month..hehe

For me, good content plus keyword density is a must.

Hi Mr Goldfries, this article should interest the rest of the guys too

How to boost your blog traffic using keywords

can i ask u guys how u all got those.. nice banner like signatures tat links to ur blog??

my 2cents,

easiest way to get an interactive banner, i would say, check out at http://www.feedburner.com , everything is automated just like my signature. As for those fancy with pictures, perhaps if you hav some skill in photoshop do a banner by urself then upload to feedburner as well. simple.

cheers!

write a good article...

just dont get it how SEO works
i already activate the plugin
then just wait and see?

I am trying to make my blog popular through forums.
. I want to try the method one by one..
Hope someday I can make decent income from
blogging..

To every blogger here.. Let us together make the
blogging world happening..

For bloggers maybe you add a few SEO plugins like ALL SEO plugin. Helps a lot and also consider to change your permalink to make it more SEO friendly.
However remember to avoid duplicate content.
Use copyspace to check this.
Dupliacte content will automatically labeled by Google as low standard sites and will not help you to rank well in SERP.

Can you tell me how to "add a few SEO plugins"?
I want to try all methods that is available.
Thanks..

The most common and effective way to increase population of your site/blog/forum

1. Articles directories submission
2. Directories submission
3. Link exchange
4. Do follow signature link from forum
5. Do follow comments link from other blog
6. 100% unique content, and include your keywords as anchor text.
7. Video marketing
8. Yahoo Answer ( Answer according to the question which related to your niche)
9. Social bookmarking.

and as for the seo plugin for wordpress, it is pretty simple as you just need to activate it and put your title, description and keyword at each of your post. Do not include keywords which irrelevant to your site cause you might get penalty from google. Moreover, quality content and strong backlink is needed so you won't face google sandbox effect.

Any Pm is welcome if you have any question to ask, thanks

This post has been edited by JoelWyn: Sep 15 2008, 02:02 AM

JoelWyn's post is interesting. if got time can do.

for me, i rely almost entirely on content and word of mouth.

Yeap, no doubt bout it , content is king and the soul of the web but think about it, how many people are doing/writing the same niche/topic with you, without a strong and quality backlink, it is impossible to get into top 1000 in google SERP.
So a tips for people who want to get more traffic to their blog.

1. Post at least 2-5 comments on related niche dofollow's blog.
2. Post at least 2-5 reply to dofollow's forum, the best is niche related.

P/s : Do include your keyword as anchor text, for example if you keyword is money, you could try put money/money face/money lover as your name to post comments.

You can see significant result in a week.

Wow!

I love these ideas.
I will surely try all these.

Here's what I understand and little confuse right now:

1. SEO plugin related to keywords about my blog.
Whenever I post a blog, I need to activate the
SEO plugin. So if I have about 50 posts, I need
to activate it 50 times like that?
Where can I activate it? Do I need to go to
certain website?

2. The reason we post related content about our blog
and comments at other blogs with the same niche
is to spread our link. Then the spider will detect it
and our rank will go up.
Is it true?

3. What is the meaning of these? :



4. Social Bookmarking are like Friendster, Myspace etc isn't?

5. About the video marketing, does it mean that I need to
capture the video I am talking about the blog contents
and upload it to YouTube like that?

6. The articles and directories submission is the same as
"pinging" isn't? or is it different?

7. It's the first time I know about using yahoo answer.
Hmm.. I will try to check it.

Fuh, that's all for now. There's really a long journey for me
as a super nooby in this area of blogging. I even got called
"blogwhore" at the Health forum for trying to tell people
about my blog. I really don't know about it.

Anyway, thanks guys.
Thanks JoelWyn
Thanks goldfries

Hope to read from you soon..

To the other bloggers, let us learn from the expert.

Hi Bizmind, glad you like them.

For your enquiry,

1. Seo Plugin is a plugin for wordpress blog. Wordpress is good with SEO and search engine love wordpress blog. You have to activate them once and it will available at the bottom of you posting page.

2. Yes posting comments at related blog and other site is known as backlinks. The stronger backlinks you have, the better page rank you got. It also will help you to increase your site traffics. But remember this, do it naturally so google won't give any penalty to your site. naturally mean, around 10-20 comments and forum post per day.

3. Social bookmarking is refer to Techro, Dig, Delicios and etc.
You can use this half auto social bookmarking tools here http://www.socialmarker.com/

4. Video marketing is create a video which is interesting, it can related or not related to your niche , it doesn't matter. You create and interesting video and put watermark at the bottom of the video which contain your site url. So when people will the video, indirectly they will notice your link as well.

5. Articles directories and directories work as giving you backlinks. Articles directories will bring you more traffics, as most of the articles directory have higher pr and position at search engine.

For example: i posted one articles at ezine.com
the articles name : Reduce The Burden of Student Loan Debt
The original site url : http://loan.juststudent.net

You search at google see which appear at the first page.

Besides that, if someone feed your articles, you can gain traffic from their site too right ?

6. Yahoo answer worth to try as the visitor will be targeted because you posting at the section which related to your site but it is only something for short terms. With good ads placement, you probably will get clicks from visitor from yahoo answer because they are desperate for the thing they are looking for. Besides that, it will give you backlinks as well.

It is not a long journey anymore if you do it correctly, i hope it can help you and please do question here if you have any problem.

Thanks bro!

You're the best!

Let me try this steps first.
Later if I confuse about something,
I will ask here.

Oh ya.. You mentioned about the wordpress
when it comes to SEO plugin right? What
about if I am using Blogger?

No problem dude,

And for blogger, it is very limited and they don't have any plugin for this. You have to do them manually. For my personal opinion, blogger is for beginner and once you can handle blogger, switch to wordpress.

Different between blogger and wordpress:

Blogger :
Advantage - They host for you, easy to use.
Disadvantage - very limited tools

Wordpress:
Advantage - Thousand of useful plugin, lots of feature
Disadvantage - self hosting

it's not just comments la. people put your site at blogroll also will add to your backlinks (also as inlink, or inbound link........ and more) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backlink

you can use https://siteexplorer.search.yahoo.com/

or just search for Backlink Checker to see how many you have.

JoelWyn another thing is page rank, you should put it as pagerank (joined words) or PR. would be better or else people quite often think of it as result pages rank, which is different.


not entirely correct.

wordpress.org allows you to download the wp engine and host it yourself.

wordpress.com host for you, easy to use too. they have generally better features than Blogger and have nicer themes.

for wordpress.com, you can't put ad scripts. it's a disadvantage to people who wish to place ads.



blogger is good for beginner but they can always continue it when they are doing well.

wordpress also fine for newbie actually. so either way is fine.

try to avoid the switching part because of the hassle involved. you build PR on blogspot.com and backlinks already, then go new domain. all lost. or at least have to rebuild.

Hi Goldfries, the question he asked is about what commenting for, not what is backlinks.

thanks

i'm just adding information to that reply of yours to give better understanding on what else contributes to backlinks.

OK guys.. You two are very helpful.
Thanks a lot!!
Now I got too many info and I don't know
where to start.

Hmm.. Let me try with ezine..

The making of videos to promote your website or products is also known as Viral Marketing if I'm not mistaken. Or is it Guerilla... Bleh.. Seems like a good source of direct traffic to my website. Good idea for you guys if you have written a good article and want ppl to know about it. Youtube is afterall a PR 9 website

This post has been edited by magdalene2008: Sep 16 2008, 05:16 PM

Hmm... I am still thinking what video to make..
..

whats means by submit to directory?

I think submit to directories means we submit
our website info to directories at for example
google, yahoo, lycos and so on..

Please correct me if I am wrong..

Do u guys have any idea how much a personal domain (like .com or .net) costs?

no, that would be search engine.

directory is different.

directory is like http://www.dmoz.org/

less than RM 30. you can try places like http://www.godaddy.com

Rm30 per month? or year?
I also trying to find web hosting
that is suitable for beginner.

Simple to use, cheap but still
safe. Any suggestions?

Hi everyone! Just thought of inputting my 2sen worth to this thread; have you all heard of Blog Explosion? Well, I search this topic for the keyword but found none so thought of adding this info for anyone's interest! Erm... word of advise: Am not sure if it goes against Adsense, you can check it yourself!

By the way, I just want to give a public thanks to Goldfries for his guidance and advise!

This post has been edited by wye8th: Sep 18 2008, 01:54 PM

http://www.adgridwork.com/

anyone heard of this b4??? u have to put their ads on ur blog.. then ur ads(like google ads) are going on other ppl's blog

Wow! If this is true, that's amazing. What is the benefit
they are getting by doing this? There must be something.
Have you tried it?




Why do you think by joining this BlogExplosion will
against Adsense? I don't see anywhere it says they
must click the adsense's ad to help us make money.
They just say about potential traffics
Thanks bro for the info, keep it up, let us support
each other. Anyway, I would like to exchange blog
link if you are interested. This way we can increase
our backlinks.

hmm i got adsense and i'm a member of blog explosion.. and i'm happy enuf... although blog explosion din increase my traffic... maybe a few uniques.. but now stop edi... even those directories never increase my traffic edi... MCB!!!

btw i found out the adgridworks thingy because got ppl click my blog from that link... but i never even join!

That's weird.. You never joined but you get click from there.
Oh ya, BTW how can you detect from where did your clicks
coming from?

2nd question, How do you make your signature?
It looks interesting and you can promote more than one
blog. Can you share with me the info?



Tim

haha i using nuffnang ma... so can check the analytics... my siggy is using photoshop wan...

i can design alot of siggy... but cannot design logo oni

You mean with photoshop you can design the
words: "MyFoodBlog::The Project 100::MyJokesBlog"
on top of the picture?

oo nono i photoshop the banner for my food blog... but to make those links... go to My Controls> Edit Signature> (Put Your Link With Your Link Title)

edit: if u wan me help also can... gimme ur link to ur website with wat title u want it.. i will post the code here and u juz copy and paste it in

This post has been edited by cassplayer: Sep 21 2008, 02:46 PM

Wow.. So kind of you.
You know programming.

Hmmm.. I just try this first:

www.allmycells.blogspot.com

Sorry to bother you..

name:
Health is Wealth

lol cant do it la... but i'll teach u how...

[(url)=(your blog address)]Health Is Wealth[/(url)]

take off all the ( ) and replace "your blog address" with www.allmycells.blogspot.com

This post has been edited by cassplayer: Sep 21 2008, 03:38 PM

Oh.. It's ok.
I guess I figured it out how to
do it. Thanks to you bro!
All the best in everything you do.

haha thx... but u already did it b4 u asked me ma... ur "My Blog"

oh? I didn't realize that..
Maybe because I saw that your
sign is a lot more interesting
with the picture..

oo the 1 with the picture is diff code edi.... kinda hard for me to figure out until i had to ask 1 of the famous bloggers

oic..

Create picture using photoshop then
hyperlink it with the info from other
blogger right?

Let me try the simple one first.

This post has been edited by Bizmind: Sep 21 2008, 05:45 PM

Hi... well, it was by way of mouth, so no way to send you link! Anyway, you are right. I just wanna highlight just in case anyone wanna try both BlogExplosion and Adsense... I am wondering now, Adsense is there but would I, as a visitor to any blog be bother to click on it unless the content of both the blog and Advert is relevant to my search? If that is the case, would it be better to find a niche and put our heads in building up that niche (so far, I haven't found out what is the niche, yet) and backlinks can only help SEO if the links linking each other are relevant enough, am I correct?

By the way, Bizmind, I just thought of something... why not put your link in Wikipedia since I see your blog is about health... and the info looks good enough for Wikipedia level... so maybe people looking for related information might click on yours and increase traffic as well as build up your rep in that community!

This post has been edited by wye8th: Sep 22 2008, 08:41 AM

Yeah.. I agree with you.

Hmm.. About the wikipedia thingy maybe I pass for
now. . I am still not really good enough in this.
Still a lot to learn I guess.. But it will be in my work
list. Thanks for the suggestion bro.

You know why I say this? It's because I kept seeing HowStuffWorks links to be the point of reference in any technical subject... hey... this is one way to increase their traffic!

On second thoughts, when I upgrade and update my level of blog, I'll be linking to your blog, ya?

You are welcome to be in my "link list".
Exchange link is one of the ways we can
increase our Page Rank isn't?

It's a win2 situation.

I read your blog and it is very nice.
Keep it up. One day you will be
one of the famous blogger.

Thank you, kind sir for your vote of confidence! I'll do my best to be on par with yours and I'll request a linking from you then! About the Page Rank, I really dunno! I mean, even if your page is ranked 1st, it won't mean, me, as the researcher of the information, would re-visit that particular page again UNLESS, there is something interesting, unique, NOT just REHASHING of the same stuff found all over the net and lastly, updates! At the end of the day, Page Rank is just a number in this vast sea of information. Do you agree?

Innit on nuffnang is a good start. I received good feedback from that pagerank website, and I'm sure you can too!

Yup, you're right.
It's quality that count when it
comes to repeated readers.

But I really need to improve
my content to be unique and
special.

Please don't speak like my
blog is good. It's actually still
between poor to average.


Never stop learning..
Ok tonight I want to try
Nuffnang..



Regards,


Tim

@Adam Tam: How good is nuffnang?

@Bizmind: Don't be humble! You write well and you have your specialty: bifidus! Good Luck!

1. try blog aggregators like petalingstreet, sarawho & innit

2. b active in the blogosphere, be it subscriber for other good blogs or comment more

3. increase networking with other bloggers

the above 3 do help me although im not a big blogger.

cheers!

greetings,i wanna use add headline animator in my siggy but everytime i copy the code that feedburner provides,it only shows codes.how u guys do the headline animator?can help me?

(pardon me for my language.im awfully sleepy now..huhu)

u need to make a graphic image in .GIF

I think in order to make a blog popular, is to write something that can create a resonance among the readers. Like kennysia, xiaxue, RPK, they are write things that make resonance among us.

I think to make your blog popular, you have to define a theme for your blog and define the readers who are going to read. Who are they, what are their thoughts, what they are expecting from your themed blog and etc. Write something that kick the world into their heart. I think with that, your blog will be promoted by word of mouth and along the time, people will start to link to you recommending others to read.

From there on, your readers, sponsors will come along and congratulations, you've done it!

SEO, adsense and other paid marketing are meant for commercial purpose. It need big cost and I bet a blogger who write for leisure (at initial stage) does not want to spend that much of money. For example did you see kennysia buy advertisement before? I am not sure but I didn't see before so far. But is he famous? You bet.

So bottom line:
define what you want(readers, themes), bomb it with contents, creativity in presenting the contents and link exchange with others.

What do you think?

nude pics of belinda chee and marion caunter

LOL~~

well that would attract short term visitors. anyway guys / gals, questions on GIF animation, can always start a thread for that.

while for page rank, please understand that PageRank and search results page number are different things.

I thought that pagerank is the result that shows when you search at google. The number one website shown is the one with the number one pagerank. So I misunderstood all this time.. Huhu~~

So actually what are diferences between these two things?
SEO are meant for which one?

put up contreversial postings that will get media attention. remember to put links to your blog in other people's blog comment section. but remember to keep the content relevant of course so they will keep coming back for more. and NO do not post nude pictures in blogs, it might get your account suspended. someone is just triyng to give stupid advice or get your blog account suspended

This post has been edited by beatlesalbum: Oct 5 2008, 06:17 PM