if u r going for 1 week gym and 1 week break, then smack really hard for the 1 week gym.
give ur 110% during the 1 week, then rest for a week.

What's wrong with starting off by cutting?
Before you bulk, it would be best to have bf% below 13.
Can you imagine how you would look like if you started bulking at 20% bf?
It isn't fixed that you have to bulk then only cut

if u r fat, then yes, cutting is to be done 1st.
but if ur muscle mass is not enough, why would u wanna cut 1st rite?
maybe u have a tummy, but then... other parts of ur body not muscular.
do u wanna cut all of that off and leaving u with a small piece to be carved?
get ur muscles buffed up, then u can start ur cutting.
bulking also means getting ur size bigger, muscular wise also (imo la...)

Haha yeah bro i get your point.
So in the end it's the goal which matters la haha.
I want a model-like body so maybe that was why I chose to cut first.
How's your cutting going bro?

haha cutting?
havent start yet.
coz i now just got back to gym 2 days ago.
will go heavy on weights and do cardio as well.
so basically i doing in between. haha...

yup.. agree.. it depend on what we need actually.. i did read somewhere about this before im choosing to start with cutting..

I will have to repeat this. Cutting and Bulking at the same time is achievable. Search G-Flux by Berardi.

I'm doing clean bulking at the moment. Although I think the progress is slow.

This post has been edited by kurtkob78: May 30 2009, 09:09 AM

yup.. i agree.. but it DAMN hard to archive.. some says it like sitting and standing at the same time.. ive tried before but failed BIG TIME...

Good Luck.

lol, good luck ? Is it hard to do cut and bulk at the same time ? kmaru is it doable?

It's doable, but it's not easy.

http://www.precisionnutrition.com/members/...read.php?t=5294

It's possible, even Terry Gallyot told me so BUT it is extremely difficult and it takes years and years of experience and knowing your own body through and through. Which is why beginners and even intermediates shouldn't even think of trying it.

Lol bro. Some people should take a look at you in real life. You're even more impressive than your progress pics. Even i was impressed. To have trained just a few years naturally with just basic supplements, you've come a long way. If you go for the next H & F meet up, you'll wow a lot of people especially with those arms of yours. I'd say you have definitely great genetics for your biceps.


This post has been edited by darklight79: May 30 2009, 12:03 PM

one noob question guys, can I use the terms cutting/bulking when I'm not in the serious dieting ?

thanks in advance....

Front double-bi pose. Arms are growing, slowly but surely.

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Also, been trying to get the lat spread pose right but it always comes out wrong. Either I'm doing it wrongly or I have no lats. I think it's the latter.

You have similar bicep insertion points like mine. We both have poor bicep genetics. More hammer curls.

Lat spread, learn to rotate your scapulae outwards.

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Added on May 30, 2009, 2:27 pmDon't worry about it mate. Don't get caught up in the lil details. Should be fine.

This post has been edited by darklight79: May 30 2009, 02:27 PM

Thanks for the reply...

IMO, (my case) it is quite possible to lose bodyfat while simultaneously adding lean mass. It wont be as rapid as a "bulking" phase, but you are hitting 2 birds with one stone. For me, the way I plan to accomplished this is to eat right...I did cardio on my non lifting days and perhaps up the calories slightly on lifting days and continue to cut bodyfat while gaining lean mass (hope so)...

Wow, thanks, actually my training schedule is all going haywire this semester plus the exhaustion after coming back from Muar for the whole day. Not sure if I can keep training like this next semester.

You can. When you first start, the first few days or the first week you'll feel like shit. After that you'll be fine. It takes around 2 weeks to fully get used to the lag period but you'll be fine by then.

Nay, this is my 3rd month being posted full time in Muar. Sometimes before going to the gym I'd take a 10 min nap, but still sometimes I get this throbbing headache half way through my training and have to reduce the weight load. So for prophylaxis I'd pop a T. paracetamol 500mg and go to gym after my preworkout shake + a small cup of coffee from that coffee maker at the ground floor.

Also, I'm not getting my 8 hour sleep a night, more like 4-5 hours a night.