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-Kouichi-
post Jan 17 2009, 05:09 PM

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erm..wanna ask sumthing noob

how do i use mr.base white??it's use for??

blowsperior
post Jan 17 2009, 05:26 PM

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You can buy Mr.Base White spray can or use the 40ml bottle.

Mr.Base White is another product of Gunze Sangyo that use to prime the model surface.

It is almost the same as Mr.Surfacer and Tamiya Primer.
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post Jan 17 2009, 08:34 PM

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helloo. im a newbie in painting gundams. can anyone tell what these items are?? can u tell me the code for the spray cans and what other things that i shud know???

Thank You So Much!!! biggrin.gif thumbup.gif




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madmoz
post Jan 17 2009, 09:20 PM

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@ sil3nC3_10,
perhaps this can help.
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/488910

hmm.gif Btw, is there any difference between Mr Super Clear (the grey spraycans) and Mr Hobby Top Coat (the blue spray cans)?

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sil3nC3_10
post Jan 17 2009, 10:32 PM

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smile.gif tq i've ady compared n got a few spraycans figured out. but if any1 can help more ur welcome 2 k.

thanks again rclxm9.gif
blowsperior
post Jan 17 2009, 10:42 PM

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Dear madmoz,

Mr.Top Coat fall under Aqueous category.
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post Jan 17 2009, 10:50 PM

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Ic ic. Tq.
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post Jan 17 2009, 11:11 PM

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Dear Sifu's,

May i know the effect is the same if use Flat paint + Clear Gloss top coat VS Gloss Paint + Clear Gloss top coat?
rayloke
post Jan 18 2009, 12:51 AM

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wa this question very hard to answer.......

ok if u spray the some amount of gloss top coat, the one with flat color as base will look less glossy. but with experience n skill, even flat base color can be as glossy as mirror with the help of gloss top coat.


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post Jan 18 2009, 11:23 AM

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O.o thanks rayloke.. i will play around with it cos i dont like kit to be so glossy
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post Jan 18 2009, 03:35 PM

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Helloo... i juz wanna ask has any1 started painting or will paint their MG Sinanju?

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post Jan 18 2009, 08:47 PM

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is there any tool that can be used to make panel lines? tongue.gif

btw, wut's this for anyways? can this replace the normal gundam lining pen?

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post Jan 19 2009, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(boltguard @ Jan 18 2009, 08:47 PM)
is there any tool that can be used to make panel lines?  tongue.gif

btw, wut's this for anyways? can this replace the normal gundam lining pen?

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normally i use a cheapo pin vise to hold a needle (Those used for sewing), together witha p-cutter (Those cotter specially for cutting plastic).

to get the position, i use masking tape, then poke some holes to create marking, then use dymo or dyna (different brand only, basically same type of tape) tape to aid creating the lines.

almost everybody will ask,why it's very easy to slant or create lines that's not straight? well the secret is to draw the line very light, do it like 4~5 times, then take away the tape and continue draw, use the depth u want. later, for thicker line, can use p-cutter on the line.


1. use masking tape to get the right position:

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2. poke holes....

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3. with help of dymo tape, use needle hole by pin vise the script....

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sorry being long winded, i like panel lines very much...... tongue.gif hope that helps.

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raidenVT
post Jan 19 2009, 10:56 PM

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erm, wanna ask here is that enamel paint use for lining and painting are different?
Luen
post Jan 20 2009, 02:37 AM

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erm may i know whr i can get this weathering set in KL ?

http://www.hlj.com/product/GNZGMS107

Besides that, is there any other brand or way tat is recommended for doing weathering ?

I'm using it for military aircraft model kit.. wanted to do the rusted panel lines..

Sorry for the nub question, and thanks for answering >< hehe
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post Jan 20 2009, 08:30 AM

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You can try TM and cineleisure.
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post Jan 20 2009, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(em0ti0n @ Jan 17 2009, 03:35 AM)
if i wash my gundam parts with mr hobby thinner will the plastic melt?
coz i was so stpd to play a lining marker on it then it appears when i ab the parts. i tried resurface but the lining does not goes off and it makes the surface thicker.. haizzz doh.gif

now thinkin to wash it with thinner, but b4 i do this, i wanna know if this action will make the things worse...

editted: does not goes off means that it still viewable after paint is applied.  icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif
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wat paint u applied?
(i kena before, marker under primer still have "shadow", it's very sad sad.gif )
if u use acrylic (Mr. hobby or tamiya), try use window cleaner aka windex, any brand will do.
if u use mr.color, try brake oil "dot3" (i haven't try myself by i've read few sucess stories b4)
if u use can spray, most prob ur last hope is brake oil.
one of my fren tried brake oil, it didnt work so u still have to try urself.
brake oil may coz some brittleness of ur plastic.

if u rili need to save ur kit, then rub with hobby thinner but it's a nighmare vmad.gif


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QUOTE(-Kouichi- @ Jan 17 2009, 05:09 PM)
erm..wanna ask sumthing noob

how do i use mr.base white??it's use for??
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mr.base white is to give a "white foundation" before u paint other colors.
so the color u paint later will be "original". esp, white, yellow, red or light colors.
if u paint straight on plastic (other than white) or primer (grey), ur color coat may be a bit darker than wat u want.
and mr.base white is not a primer, it's diff from primer coz does not has the durability of a primer. it's just a foundation color.
"WHITE SURFACER (white primer)" is available if u wanna prime ur kit in white but only available in can spray.
mr. base white has advantage over normal mr.color white as it's a lacquer, and more opaque and sticks better.
u need to prime wt normal surfacer (1000 or 1200) before u apply base white.
dark colors, black or metallic colors not affected if applied straight on grey primer.


QUOTE(raidenVT @ Jan 19 2009, 10:56 PM)
erm, wanna ask here is that enamel paint use for lining and painting are different?
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same.
but if u use enamel for painting, u won't wanna use back enamel for lining.
the purpose people use enamel wash over lacquer/acrylic is bcoz enamel thinner does not harm it.
so u can clean up the messy line without affecting ur painted color.

QUOTE(Luen @ Jan 20 2009, 02:37 AM)
erm may i know whr i can get this weathering set in KL ?

http://www.hlj.com/product/GNZGMS107

Besides that, is there any other brand or way tat is recommended for doing weathering ?

I'm using it for military aircraft model kit.. wanted to do the rusted panel lines..

Sorry for the nub question, and thanks for answering >< hehe
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u don't have to use those wat. i see many people use acylic drybrushing/enamel wash for weathering.
those markers are hard to get and expensive.
just my 2 cents blush.gif

This post has been edited by erh_teo: Jan 20 2009, 04:30 PM
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post Jan 20 2009, 04:40 PM

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Dear erh_teo,

Thanks for your detail informations



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post Jan 20 2009, 04:56 PM

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@ erh_teo

do u mean by buying maybe a rust brown enamel paint from maybe tamiya for example;

den i use a brush to brush it to make the effect as i like? sorry for asking so much hehe, my only experience is panel lining lol, so there's lots of things tat i wanna make sure before i do it and spoil my kit ><
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post Jan 20 2009, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(blowsperior @ Jan 20 2009, 04:40 PM)
Dear erh_teo,

Thanks for your detail informations
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err.. i didn't answer ur question though blush.gif
but if it's regarding the mr.base white, sorry if i meant to correct ur post.
i too been wandering long wat was the diff of using mr. base white as to using other alternatives.
u know, it's a waste if i get something redundant and GSI certainly has their reason to market mr.base white.
i forgot where i got the explanations but somehow i'm cleared now of it's usage smile.gif

QUOTE(Luen @ Jan 20 2009, 04:56 PM)
@ erh_teo

do u mean by buying maybe a rust brown enamel paint from maybe tamiya for example;

den i use a brush to brush it to make the effect as i like? sorry for asking so much hehe, my only experience is panel lining lol, so there's lots of things tat i wanna make sure before i do it and spoil my kit ><
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weathering is a bit tough, dun ask me coz i'm not military guy..
but a quite search through armor/military modelling might helps..
it's not relying on material but oso reference and technique.

u might wanna try this:
http://z12.invisionfree.com/ScaleModelsMal...dex.php?act=idx

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