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post Apr 27 2008, 05:47 PM

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QUOTE(destroyer @ Apr 27 2008, 03:14 AM)
@azarimy, i've checked USM website, and it stated that for diploma holder, if we enter USM architecture, it only 3 years. could you clarify on this matter. thanx in advance.
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ok. i'll check on it.

QUOTE(BurgaFlippinMan @ Apr 27 2008, 04:08 AM)
btw, if I reject an offer in a public uni, will the place be offered to someone else?
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yes. it can be offered immediately to the next qualified candidate if u inform them soon enough; or it will offered as a 2nd intake which is 2-4 weeks later than the 1st intake; or in case of UTM, it will be kept so that they can take more diploma students (in to that batch) the next year.
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sir azarimy,

i was just wondering, why did u be a part time lecturer and a part time architect after your degree? why didn't u just do either one of them full time?

well, as what everyone already knows, architecture program of a uni/college in malaysia must have an accreditation by LAM. so, does interior design program need an accreditation by any body or something?
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QUOTE(myesarah @ Apr 27 2008, 09:58 AM)
sir azarimy,

i was just wondering, why did u be a part time lecturer and a part time architect after your degree? why didn't u just do either one of them full time?

well, as what everyone already knows, architecture program of a uni/college in malaysia must have an accreditation by LAM. so, does interior design program need an accreditation by any body or something?
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well, for one thing, IPTAs dont often take fresh graduates to become part of the teaching staff unless they have some serious achievements under their belt. when i graduated in 2001, there wasnt any permanent vacancies, so the faculty had to apply to the administration for more fundings. so i had to wait for the opening, which apparently took 10months. so i became a part time lecturer rather than just wait and do nothing.

only if there were an opening readily available, and a 3.50++ with a bunch of dean's list and other awards, could one be taken directly into the teaching staff. even so, the faculty will have to screen them through interviews. great at learning doesnt mean u'll be good at lecturing. in my case, i had a 1 year long interview (via part time teaching), so the real interview was pretty much nothing.



no. at the moment interior design does not have an accreditation system, but they do have a society for it. check out MSID.
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post Apr 28 2008, 01:18 AM

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ben911 may i ask which course did you take in taylors ?? The diploma in architectural technology or the bachelor of science ?
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came back from KL yesterday after the UTM interview ^^

i sort of realised sth...there is a reason for interviews to be called INTER-view. besides being assessed by the interviewer, it is also a chance for the prospective student to have a clearer idea of how the university is like.

I really really like my interviewers ^^ too bad i didn't take down their names. the session was really relaxed (...is that a good thing? blink.gif ) and they were really really nice. i actually sort of regretted that i put UTM as second choice sad.gif i think they were shocked when i said UTM's not my first choice...then they told me i'll only get UTM IF i put it as first *sob* but if they aren't going to consider second-choicers, then why call them up for interviews in the first place? cry.gif

compared to the warm and cheerful(?) impression that the UTM interviewers gave me, UM feels a bit distanced and cold now...why oh why don't the UM people conduct interviews? >.<

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QUOTE(yuexia @ Apr 28 2008, 12:12 AM)
came back from KL yesterday after the UTM interview ^^

i sort of realised sth...there is a reason for interviews to be called INTER-view. besides being assessed by the interviewer, it is also a chance for the prospective student to have a clearer idea of how the university is like.

I really really like my interviewers ^^ too bad i didn't take down their names. the session was really relaxed (...is that a good thing?  blink.gif ) and they were really really nice. i actually sort of regretted that i put UTM as second choice  sad.gif  i think they were shocked when i said UTM's not my first choice...then they told me i'll only get UTM IF i put it as first  *sob*  but if they aren't going to consider second-choicers, then why call them up for interviews in the first place?  cry.gif

compared to the warm and cheerful(?) impression that the UTM interviewers gave me, UM feels a bit distanced and cold now  yawn.gif  why oh why don't the UM people conduct interviews? >.<
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could u describe ur interviewers for me?

the reason why they mentioned about 2nd choicers is not about UTM, but about other universities. universities such as UM can bypass UTM's preferred candidates and "steal" them based on technicalities. if UTM sees that u have the talent, the character and the qualifications for the course, UM could steal u away based on qualifications alone (assuming UM is the first choice). i mean, if we think u're good, for damn sure other universities would think the same as well. so it boils down to which university u've put as the 1st choice.

and yes, UTM's interviews are conducted in a relaxed or casual environment rather than formal. we feel that students perform best when they are comfortable.
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um. well. i went into the room situated on the side of the corridor leading towards Dewan Jumaah (my interview centre was the KL campus). there were 2 interviewers, the man was quite tall i think (he was sitting down all the time. i just instictively felt that he's quite tall tongue.gif ) , wasn't wearing specs and with no moustache. the lady wore specs, average height (i think). both were really jovial smile.gif

but then again, i'm Really veryvery poor at remembering what people wore and stuff like that. so... tongue.gif
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H guys..

Just to share some humor with you all.
These happen when we had 1 of our assignment and some student get too enthusiastic !!!

and these are what my lecture warned every students thru email drool.gif

Dear ARBE1200 students,

Greetings. I hope you are enjoying a break, following Phase 2 Tocal.

Now, regarding Phase 3 Two Rooms...
Can I emphasise, to everyone involved, the following points:

- this is a STUDENT DESIGN EXERCISE ONLY, not a 'REAL WORLD' PROJECT. It connects to the 'real world' of sticks, stones, rain and butterflies mainly through a brilliant and beautiful presentation made by real people in Week 8, and by the Phase 3 documents.

- our 'clients' are extremely busy. They do not wish to offend, but they are unable to answer any enquiries, whether by email, telephone, through the shop, or anywhere else.

- Please DO NOT HARASS THE CLIENTS IN ANY WAY.

- Questions, enquiries, etc. regarding the project are to be sent ONLY via myself,


- Please enjoy the opportunity to create a design using a brief which was thought up by myself and the High Tea people; there is more than enough information to generate 9 plans for Week 9. Nine plans, that's right... Enjoy this rare opportunity to design something practical, accommodating, and beautiful.

Please read through the email below, received from High Tea With Mrs Woo. See you all next week.

Cheers,
JR
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This is the message that the client send to my lecture..


FROM ANGELA, High Tea With Mrs Woo:

Hi JR!

Great news, your students have been getting excited about the project, a few have come to visit the shop already! But it seems some of the students are a little confused and we thought it best to clarify to all them, maybe in a group email or blackboard posting? Our shop staff have been asked some interesting questions:

- I am here to meet the girls, are they here?
- may I make an appointment to meet with the girls?
- may I make an appointment to see their warehouse? (asked by all students so far!)
- what is their favourite colour?
- what kind of materials do they like?
- what are the girls like? their personality...likes and dislikes etc

It also seems that some students really do believe that the project is real and we have received a $50,000 grant! It is nice to see that they are quite enthusiastic and putting effort into understanding their 'client'. Do you think they should know that it is just a 'brief'? Or perhaps it is good they are taking it so seriously smile.gif

We wanted to let the students know that:
- It is not possible for 120 students to come and visit our warehouse. We want them to start with a clean slate without letting the current warehouse affect the new design. The images shown in the slide show was to provide a rough indication of the size of the cutting table, sewing machines and storage/cutting requirements. It is not necessary to visit the warehouse as we do not wish for it to influence their ideas and design of the two rooms.
- We are not able to directly answer emails/questions from all the students: please pass questions to their tutor first and we will try our best to give some further advice. It would be unfair to speak to students individually as all students need to be provided with the same information.
- The invitation for students to visit our store was to give them a better idea of our style, aesthetic and colour palette. They are welcome to have a closer look at our garments and feel the materials that we love to use. They can also observe our selection of the complimentary stationery, illustrations and products that we also love.
- With all this information and observation, we hope they can use their imagination to create a productive, thoughtful and comfortable workspace and restspace for us.


Additionally, we had a few more thoughts for the brief:
- we require natural light and ventilation but keep in mind that as we are cutting fabric, it would be best not to have a breeze that would move the fabric while we cut.
- privacy is also important - we do not wish for people in the street to be able to view our expensive machinery and fabrics and we like to work in private.

Ahh, what do you think? Hope it is helpful to the students, great to see their excitement!

Cheers,
x Ange @ HIGH TEA

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@azarimy. i think i'll enter matric since i think i am uncertain about my future.

btw, thanks a lot for your info that you give and share here. i really2 appreciate it. mybe i'll enter architecture after finish my matriculation. thanx a lot azarimy.

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izit possible to enter Diploma in this field right after SPM using my trial results?

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QUOTE(yuexia @ Apr 28 2008, 03:56 AM)
um. well. i went into the room situated on the side of the corridor leading towards Dewan Jumaah (my interview centre was the KL campus). there were 2 interviewers, the man was quite tall i think (he was sitting down all the time. i just instictively felt that he's quite tall  tongue.gif ) , wasn't wearing specs and with no moustache. the lady wore specs, average height (i think). both were really jovial  smile.gif 

but then again, i'm Really veryvery poor at remembering what people wore and stuff like that. so... tongue.gif
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how about age? language proficiencies? skin colour? was the lady wearing tudung or not?

i'm just trying to figure out who ur interviewers were, bcoz i personally know all of them, and i know there are certain things that they say or do will indicate that u've got it. but they will not say it straight away so that u'll not put ur hopes up too high. one of the things that could be said is about the 2nd choicers that we've discussed earlier. to some, that would mean "i want to offer u the place right now, but UM might steal u away" (which is good), but to others it could mean "i have nothing else to talk about, so i'm just gonna say something ambiguous" (which is not really good).

QUOTE(destroyer @ Apr 28 2008, 07:26 AM)
@azarimy. i think i'll enter matric since i think i am uncertain about my future.

btw, thanks a lot for your info that you give and share here. i really2 appreciate it. mybe i'll enter architecture after finish my matriculation. thanx a lot azarimy.
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very well. hope u achieve ur best in ur future endeavours!

QUOTE(aprisis @ Apr 28 2008, 07:34 AM)
izit possible to enter Diploma in this field right after SPM using my trial results?
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trials? not for IPTAs, no. but i believe u can for IPTSs. IPTA intakes are usually well after the official SPM results are announced, so there's no reason why u need to apply using trial results. however, IPTS may have 2 or 3 intakes per year, and in light of saving time, they may allow u to apply to their courses using ur trial results. later they will still request ur official results.

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i saw this taylor's advertisement in my school. it says Diploma in Architectural Technology. does this mean i'll be studying architecture in technological concept and not as a whole?
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haha. tanx azarimy. i thought u might be angry with me after explaining a lot of thing to me and after all that expalaination, i'm not going into architecture (just not right now).

i really2 appreciate ur info.

i want to get into architecture, just that i'm not sure about what i'm going to do. and i don't have confident if i can do well in architecture.

mybe 1 year in matric will make me more matured.

thanx azarimy.

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QUOTE(aprisis @ Apr 28 2008, 10:00 AM)
i saw this taylor's advertisement in my school. it says Diploma in Architectural Technology. does this mean i'll be studying architecture in technological concept and not as a whole?
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there's no specialization in diploma, only emphasis. specialization means u will have a bundle of specific subjects (for example technology) and nothing else. emphasis means u have every other subjects, but technological subjects have proportionately bigger portion than the others. in diploma, u will learn most of the basic stuffs. they cant afford u to specialize, bcoz it will severely hinders ur ability to go forward during degree.

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haha. tanx azarimy. i thought u might be angry with me after explaining a lot of thing to me and after all that expalaination, i'm not going into architecture (just not right now).

i really2 appreciate ur info.

i want to get into architecture, just that i'm not sure about what i'm going to do. and i don't have confident if i can do well in architecture.

mybe 1 year in matric will make me more matured.

thanx azarimy.
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why would i be angry? biggrin.gif

my objective here is to provide as much information as i can so that u (the students) can make the best, well informed decision for ur future. i'm not getting paid enough to promote this course here haha. if u are interested, then come in this thread, ask everything u need to ask, and then decide. the worst thing about choosing ur future is when u make it without being fully informed. this happens alot, especially with overzealous promoters trying to sell their courses by any means necessary.
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do u think its advisable to go for architecture in taylor's? and i'm quite confuse now. the chart on the very 1st page says 6 years but its 5 years in the ad.

btw, does any1 know where i can buy the thin easy bending type of wood used for model making? in need for stage setup urgently smile.gif
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this is from taylor's website:

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Upon completion of the Diploma programmes at Taylor's College, students are granted advanced standing into the final year of the Bachelor of Environments at The University of Melbourne, leading to the Master of Architecture.


also, refer to this diagram, from their website too:

from the quote and the diagram, u can see that it's a total of 6 years after SPM. u might be confused with their degree programme (bachelor of science in architecture) which is 5 years after STPM/A-levels.
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i'm not so sure bout these. but from what i gathered.

diploma 3 levels. that means 3 years. after that i can go Bachelor of Environment, 1 year, and finally Master of Architecture, 2 years. for the bachelor of environment, does it act like a bonus?

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QUOTE(aprisis @ Apr 28 2008, 10:33 AM)
i'm not so sure bout these. but from what i gathered.

diploma 3 levels. that means 3 years. after that i can go Bachelor of Environment, 1 year, and finally Master of Architecture, 2 years. for the bachelor of environment, does it act like a bonus?
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BEnv (bachelor of environment) is a part 1 equivalent degree that u need to take before u can proceed to part 2 (in this case, masters of architecture in melbourne). u can never take part 2 courses before u obtain a part 1, and no diploma in malaysia is accredited with part 1 (except the old UiTM diploma which has been discontinued since 2005).

so it's not a bonus, but a requirement wink.gif.

3 years diploma + 1 year BEnv (part 1 equivalent) + 2 years MArch (part 2) = 6 years
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for a while i was thinking, 'master of architecture=masters?' tongue.gif

for BEnv, i heard it needs 60% in work for them to grant a place in melbourne, is it?

and what if i take A levels? i'll be skipping a year in diploma? just that? unsure.gif

yeah and thanks for ur patience biggrin.gif

6 years..i'll be in my mid twenties by the time..

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+ yes, masters of architecture (MArch) is a masters degree.

+ yes. 60%.

+ if u take A-levels (or STPM for that matter), u are recommended to join the degree programme straight away, be it BSc in taylor's or BEnv straight in melbourne. to even consider a diploma in architecture after A-levels is a step backwards. the feel that i get is u wanna do architecture as fast as possible. so diploma after A-levels is a big NO-NO.

+ and yes, all architecture graduates are usually 23-25 years old. it's normal. u must also note that architecture is life long learning. u will still continue to learn as u practice. the degree is just a mark where ur formal training stops. it doesnt mean u can stop learning wink.gif.



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