NEW BLM a.k.a SAGA LEAKED(PIC INSIDE), pls dont sue me
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 Jan 10 2008, 10:44 PM, updated 18y ago
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Jan 10 2008, 10:49 PM
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better u watermark it...
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Jan 10 2008, 10:49 PM
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to be honest, it looks rather great from that angle!
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Jan 10 2008, 10:50 PM
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its already showing on TV leh...... so it shouldnt be a surprise and u wouldnt get sued i guess...
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Jan 10 2008, 10:52 PM
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not bad.. not bad at all..
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Jan 10 2008, 10:54 PM
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how's about interior?
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dah banyak produce ke??.....
wahhhhh mana dapat gambar tuuu This post has been edited by CHIP CN: Jan 10 2008, 10:58 PM |
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Jan 10 2008, 10:57 PM
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currently ppl dah order dlm 3k unit...
besar lebih kurang vios |
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Jan 10 2008, 10:59 PM
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QUOTE(Witchblade @ Jan 10 2008, 10:57 PM) currently ppl dah order dlm 3k unit... the new vios or the old one..? as the new one interior is quite big for a small car..besar lebih kurang vios  |
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Jan 10 2008, 11:00 PM
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QUOTE(CHIP CN @ Jan 10 2008, 10:56 PM) dah banyak produce ke??..... spt ckp ttadik pls don sue me...official 18hb baru ada kluar dlm tv /newspaperwahhhhh mana dapat gambar tuuu |
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Jan 10 2008, 11:06 PM
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when the WRM ( gen2 codename ) is supposed to replace wira, they came up with new name.. err.. Gen2
while Persona IS a sedan version of gen2 , instead of gen2 sedan, they named it Persona.. when whole world apart Saga replacement out, they keep the name Saga..  ok i dont get it.. |
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Jan 10 2008, 11:08 PM
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fuyoh.........
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Jan 10 2008, 11:10 PM
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QUOTE(Revamperz @ Jan 10 2008, 11:06 PM) when the WRM ( gen2 codename ) is supposed to replace wira, they came up with new name.. err.. Gen2 haha market strategy maybe...while Persona IS a sedan version of gen2 , instead of gen2 sedan, they named it Persona.. when whole world apart Saga replacement out, they keep the name Saga.. ok i dont get it..but still worth lol...from 31k-rm40k u can see rm40k version(white colour version) for ur information tiada power windows kat pintu belakang |
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Jan 10 2008, 11:10 PM
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hmm the place strangely like the proton COE near shah alam. Well the interior looked neat enough.
Too bad that the back seat does not have a headrest like the savvy. Maybe if they produce the highline they will put it? oh and 1 more thing..THe engine bay looked different.. i can see the IAFM module at the right side of the engine but the spark plug area looked diffrent...it seems like they added something..Any campro owners want to comment on this? This post has been edited by haze: Jan 10 2008, 11:12 PM |
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Jan 10 2008, 11:13 PM
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Red, white so nice
 That one is green or blue  Interior looks ok la. But the aircond vent, i dont like it. But what the hell with the lining at the bottom of doors  |
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Jan 10 2008, 11:14 PM
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front looks like bmw, back looks like older model c class...
surely will be modified to looks like bmw or baby benz  |
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Jan 10 2008, 11:16 PM
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Better than mod to nipps car
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Jan 10 2008, 11:17 PM
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at least it handles better then some higher priced car
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Jan 10 2008, 11:18 PM
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QUOTE(haze @ Jan 10 2008, 11:10 PM) hmm the place strangely like the proton COE near shah alam. Well the interior looked neat enough. torque improve...better than myvvi and gen2 1.3Too bad that the back seat does not have a headrest like the savvy. Maybe if they produce the highline they will put it? oh and 1 more thing..THe engine bay looked different.. i can see the IAFM module at the right side of the engine but the spark plug area looked diffrent...it seems like they added something..Any campro owners want to comment on this? |
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Jan 10 2008, 11:18 PM
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nice car man
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Jan 10 2008, 11:18 PM
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QUOTE(Revamperz @ Jan 10 2008, 11:06 PM) when the WRM ( gen2 codename ) is supposed to replace wira, they came up with new name.. err.. Gen2 They kept Satria's name as well. The Neo simply mean it's 'New(version)'while Persona IS a sedan version of gen2 , instead of gen2 sedan, they named it Persona.. when whole world apart Saga replacement out, they keep the name Saga.. ok i dont get it..I thought paul's entry said they tinted the back indicator light to orange instead of Benz styled headlamps?  They don't come in the metallic white of Persona sadly, that color is very nice  This post has been edited by SeaGates: Jan 10 2008, 11:20 PM |
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Jan 10 2008, 11:22 PM
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No purple also
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Jan 10 2008, 11:24 PM
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Front reminds me of Skyline GTR!
  Already kicking myself for buying myvi 1.0sr... 41K For the same amount of money could get BLM highline 1.3 with airbag summore. This post has been edited by myvi5949: Jan 10 2008, 11:30 PM |
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Jan 10 2008, 11:29 PM
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QUOTE(Azuma-kun @ Jan 10 2008, 11:13 PM) Red, white so nice useless, unless it's at the widest end of the door which seems to be at the topThat one is green or blue Interior looks ok la. But the aircond vent, i dont like it. But what the hell with the lining at the bottom of doors This post has been edited by soulfly: Jan 10 2008, 11:30 PM |
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Jan 10 2008, 11:29 PM
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QUOTE(haze @ Jan 10 2008, 11:10 PM) hmm the place strangely like the proton COE near shah alam. Well the interior looked neat enough. direct ignition coil like most perodua engines. no more distributor failure, straight dash of current to the spark, better timing control Too bad that the back seat does not have a headrest like the savvy. Maybe if they produce the highline they will put it? oh and 1 more thing..THe engine bay looked different.. i can see the IAFM module at the right side of the engine but the spark plug area looked diffrent...it seems like they added something..Any campro owners want to comment on this? Added on January 10, 2008, 11:30 pmin fact, the engine layout alot like the EJ-DE engines on kenari and kelisa. airbox on right, gearbox below block, timing belts on left. This post has been edited by kev da man: Jan 10 2008, 11:30 PM |
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Jan 10 2008, 11:31 PM
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Jan 10 2008, 11:29 PM) useless, unless it's at the widest end of the door which seems to be at the top Hope so. Dont tell me that proton put there without any reason :swet: |
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Jan 10 2008, 11:35 PM
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there is a strip out model at cineleasure damansara
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Jan 10 2008, 11:41 PM
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THe air cond vents dont suits the car well. They should retain the original savvy one instead of ripping it off from nippon car.
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Jan 10 2008, 11:41 PM
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similar interior to the savvy.....but savvy has a nicer built quality and design.....probably thats where it scores higher price besides a more reinforced body for a compact.
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Jan 10 2008, 11:43 PM
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hmm, everything looks solid
just hope when people get to touch it, it is indeed solid as it look |
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Jan 10 2008, 11:43 PM
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how's the interior quality?
same quality like persona anot?? |
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Jan 10 2008, 11:45 PM
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the passenger side in the future will have airbags included...
the space for airbag module is already there, just like savvy... |
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Jan 10 2008, 11:48 PM
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more like for your tissue box haha........
i'll be great if there's a 2nd airbag....but since its basic lineup......kinda impossible though.....i'd prefer ABS and EBD. |
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Jan 10 2008, 11:50 PM
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i think saga H-Line is possible
just that they are holding out to see how it sell first then only introduce saga SE, with all the full specs  |
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Jan 10 2008, 11:53 PM
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well..any pics of the interior? the exterior looks really nice. proton is improving on its design..finally.
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Jan 10 2008, 11:53 PM
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I think so too thats why they didnt range it B M and H line. They went one below with no line
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Jan 10 2008, 11:55 PM
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Prepare for the worst wira and iswara (kereta kebal) depreciation
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Jan 11 2008, 12:01 AM
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for me this car is the best ever car from Proton. :thumb:
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Jan 11 2008, 12:05 AM
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QUOTE(Revamperz @ Jan 10 2008, 11:06 PM) when the WRM ( gen2 codename ) is supposed to replace wira, they came up with new name.. err.. Gen2 haha...persona is wira uk name..so afterall gen2 sedan objective to replace wira..so they give name persona (wira uk ver)while Persona IS a sedan version of gen2 , instead of gen2 sedan, they named it Persona.. when whole world apart Saga replacement out, they keep the name Saga.. ok i dont get it.. |
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Jan 11 2008, 12:07 AM
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The white one very nice indeed..
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Jan 11 2008, 12:11 AM
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QUOTE(kcng @ Jan 10 2008, 11:45 PM) the passenger side in the future will have airbags included... how do u know??hope its true n will have abs n ebd n all those accs as H-Line modelthe space for airbag module is already there, just like savvy... |
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Jan 11 2008, 12:12 AM
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if have interior pictures....would be the best and makes everything of this topic perfect!!!
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Jan 11 2008, 12:12 AM
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the engine is great too. Better than gen2/persona.
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Jan 11 2008, 12:21 AM
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jan 11 2008, 12:12 AM) if have interior pictures....would be the best and makes everything of this topic perfect!!! TS did post up an interior pic. http://img245.imageshack.us/my.php?image=10012008076yr2.jpg |
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Jan 11 2008, 12:25 AM
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Wow thanks TS! The pictures are nice and clear!
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Jan 11 2008, 12:26 AM
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QUOTE(zacevox @ Jan 11 2008, 12:01 AM) for me this car is the best ever car from Proton. :thumb: st what's wrong with your avatarwow after some little glances. i can say that this car is a real value for money. still we need to know more about it's power... |
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Jan 11 2008, 12:32 AM
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QUOTE(Witchblade @ Jan 10 2008, 11:10 PM) haha market strategy maybe... means pintu belakang guna pusing????but still worth lol...from 31k-rm40k u can see rm40k version(white colour version) for ur information tiada power windows kat pintu belakang |
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Jan 11 2008, 12:34 AM
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Fuyoh, really tempting to book 1!! the car is just just very very Nice (wat happened to the lining??
), interior is way way much nicer than SAVVY, and it looks very solid. All looks very promising to own 1. WTH, now every night I just dream of the SAGA....but then my old 1.5S ISWARA is serving me faithfully for 15 years ...LONG LIFE THE SAGA , may the SAGA continues!!! |
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Jan 11 2008, 12:35 AM
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is the auto gear handle kinda weird???...just asking only ..plus i never arive an auto car before..so sry ya..haha
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Jan 11 2008, 12:35 AM
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haha nvm back seat ppl dun really need power window. They are not the one paying toll and getting parking ticket anyway
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Jan 11 2008, 12:36 AM
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QUOTE(haze @ Jan 11 2008, 12:35 AM) haha nvm back seat ppl dun really need power window. They are not the one paying toll and getting parking ticket anyway ya....you're right at another angle also....boleh buka cukup bagus untuk passanger...kekekekekeke |
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Jan 11 2008, 12:37 AM
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if can i prefer pusing window
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Jan 11 2008, 12:42 AM
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I see that the wires are exposed in the engine.....nothing wrong with that?
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Jan 11 2008, 12:42 AM
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QUOTE(zacevox @ Jan 11 2008, 12:37 AM) if can i prefer pusing window why???...exercise??? |
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Jan 11 2008, 12:44 AM
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no worry and headache later power window rosak
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Jan 11 2008, 12:47 AM
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The car exterior & interior looks nice. Hopefully the car will be reliable as well. definitely will be one of my wishlist for this year.
now, to find a good source for funds...... btw does the car also have no front power windows as an option? |
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Jan 11 2008, 12:48 AM
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QUOTE(Oyaji @ Jan 11 2008, 12:47 AM) The car exterior & interior looks nice. Hopefully the car will be reliable as well. definitely will be one of my wishlist for this year. that's for no-line version..i think...no power windows at all!now, to find a good source for funds...... btw does the car also have no front power windows as an option? |
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Jan 11 2008, 12:51 AM
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QUOTE(haze @ Jan 11 2008, 12:35 AM) haha nvm back seat ppl dun really need power window. They are not the one paying toll and getting parking ticket anyway maybe they save this features for H-line or SE model... |
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Jan 11 2008, 12:54 AM
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No doubt this is based on Savvy.. interior is 90% similar..small patch of fabric for the door panel trim.. deep set dashboard with curved windscreen just like Savvy contributes nicer to driving position than Gen.2..non integrated HU which is easier to upgrade... I like the front exterior, the design abruptly put a halt to Savvy's roundish front end design...headlamps design Savvy still better...
Damn can't wait to test drive... |
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Jan 11 2008, 12:59 AM
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walao..bro...u working in proton?or u climb into the plant to took those pic..haha
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Jan 11 2008, 12:59 AM
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headlamps design savvy still better?
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Jan 11 2008, 01:00 AM
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QUOTE(zacevox @ Jan 11 2008, 12:59 AM) headlamps design savvy still better? this is way lot better than savvy leh bro  |
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Jan 11 2008, 01:02 AM
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QUOTE(jimmy.soo @ Jan 11 2008, 01:00 AM) this is way lot better than savvy leh bro ya but then someone(the only one) above just saying that. |
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Jan 11 2008, 01:02 AM
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wow.looks gr8.
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Jan 11 2008, 01:03 AM
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QUOTE(zacevox @ Jan 11 2008, 01:02 AM) ya but then someone(the only one) above just saying that. hahaha, maybe he's the ONLY one... different ppl different taste lar who knows in future he'll get britney spears as his wife? |
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Jan 11 2008, 01:06 AM
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not so nice la..y everyone say nice?..the auto gear stick looks like a joystick..hope someone doesn't grab it n think they're driving (flying?) the car wif it
jkjk..from the front n the back it look nice..i like the lights..but from the sides it looks a bit too high n the back is short..like kene squashed from the back..funny la..maybe it'll look nicer wif bigger rims n lowered..SE/R3 edition plzzzzzz This post has been edited by zx12: Jan 11 2008, 01:07 AM |
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Jan 11 2008, 01:08 AM
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QUOTE(zacevox @ Jan 11 2008, 01:02 AM) ya but then someone(the only one) above just saying that. Look carefully - the hi and low beam bulbs are in the same reflector just like other P2 cars ..Savvy has dual projector-like reflector for hi and low beams like Waja and Satria NEO..and easy to install angel eyes. SO SEE creafully before making a fool out of yourself.    This post has been edited by hypermount: Jan 11 2008, 01:25 AM |
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Jan 11 2008, 01:12 AM
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QUOTE(half_lif3 @ Jan 10 2008, 11:43 PM) how's the interior quality? Same..don't worry..same quality like persona anot?? Interior definitely looks like Savvy  Can't wait to test drive the car also..will head to the nearest SA after the launch but will order frm my proton friend hehehe |
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Jan 11 2008, 01:14 AM
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this head lamp nicer design
 for a BLM this car is looking great but i can see that savvy has better interior quality than this,looks more solid. overall i do think this car will sell very well! |
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Jan 11 2008, 01:19 AM
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QUOTE(zadan @ Jan 11 2008, 01:14 AM) this head lamp nicer design afterall savvy priced more than this SAGA (except savvy lite)for a BLM this car is looking great but i can see that savvy has better interior quality than this,looks more solid. overall i do think this car will sell very well! nway for the price that proton ask for this new saga...its definitely really competitive in this segmen hope handling n the ride n quality are good...come on p1..dont let us down. |
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Jan 11 2008, 01:25 AM
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hav to wait market feedback.
usually proton car has lot of kacau compare to other car. remember when gen2 and savy launch problems? waja more worst, window masuk air lah, power window kacau lah.... but anywhere nice design really. |
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Jan 11 2008, 01:29 AM
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QUOTE(cymon @ Jan 11 2008, 01:25 AM) hav to wait market feedback. yeah...wait till 2nd batch or SE if there is any usually proton car has lot of kacau compare to other car. remember when gen2 and savy launch problems? waja more worst, window masuk air lah, power window kacau lah.... but anywhere nice design really.  |
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Jan 11 2008, 01:30 AM
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nah you can't go wrong with latest proton models...my Savvy interior doesn't give our rattle snake's sound after 2 years, no squeaking mouse from the suspension and engine's still smooth...no doubt this BLM will be a hot stuff.
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Jan 11 2008, 01:30 AM
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look's nice from the pictures
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Jan 11 2008, 01:36 AM
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QUOTE(NewbieBetta @ Jan 11 2008, 12:59 AM) walao..bro...u working in proton?or u climb into the plant to took those pic..haha haha sorry bcoz late reply...im asleep ready hhaaim capture that pic today with my n95..sorry bit2 blur bcoz must fast capture lol...takut kantoi...hahaha ya this model assembly at shah alam dan hari ni baru keluar dari kilang..so cepat2 im capture...but im not working at proton..but have some "lubang". anyway...my imformer says..proton already build R3 model for this saga and im hope can get that design a.s.a.p(maybe must wait 3-6month) hahahaa |
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Jan 11 2008, 01:37 AM
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Looks good.
Only Q is will the boot lid still collect water between the metal and the bottom of the windscreen and drip water into the boot?PS. All round power windows are not a good idea in case the car plops into a river and u need to get out. Besides, who ever opens the back windows? This post has been edited by ceo684: Jan 11 2008, 01:38 AM |
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Jan 11 2008, 01:38 AM
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it's nice car for the replacement of current saga
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Jan 11 2008, 01:39 AM
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QUOTE(cymon @ Jan 11 2008, 01:25 AM) hav to wait market feedback. this model totally improve ..no more spare part from Tengku Mahaleel family(all spare part contract goes to their family)...so QC more more beter than gen2 or waja old model...anyway...new chairman come with new visionusually proton car has lot of kacau compare to other car. remember when gen2 and savy launch problems? waja more worst, window masuk air lah, power window kacau lah.... but anywhere nice design really. |
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Jan 11 2008, 01:44 AM
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QUOTE(zx12 @ Jan 11 2008, 01:06 AM) not so nice la..y everyone say nice?..the auto gear stick looks like a joystick..hope someone doesn't grab it n think they're driving (flying?) the car wif it yeah...i also felt the gear stick is kinda weird.......but overall it's great except the gear stick jkjk..from the front n the back it look nice..i like the lights..but from the sides it looks a bit too high n the back is short..like kene squashed from the back..funny la..maybe it'll look nicer wif bigger rims n lowered..SE/R3 edition plzzzzzz anyone felt weird???? Added on January 11, 2008, 1:44 am QUOTE(zx12 @ Jan 11 2008, 01:06 AM) not so nice la..y everyone say nice?..the auto gear stick looks like a joystick..hope someone doesn't grab it n think they're driving (flying?) the car wif it yeah...i also felt the gear stick is kinda weird.......but overall it's great except the gear stick jkjk..from the front n the back it look nice..i like the lights..but from the sides it looks a bit too high n the back is short..like kene squashed from the back..funny la..maybe it'll look nicer wif bigger rims n lowered..SE/R3 edition plzzzzzz anyone felt weird???? This post has been edited by MR_alien: Jan 11 2008, 01:44 AM |
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Jan 11 2008, 01:46 AM
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QUOTE(hypermount @ Jan 11 2008, 01:08 AM) Look carefully - the hi and low beam bulbs are in the same reflector just like other P2 cars .. so only this extra you say that Savvy headlights is better? Savvy has dual projector-like reflector for hi and low beams like Waja and Satria NEO..and easy to install angel eyes. SO SEE creafully before making a fool out of yourself.  most people dont care either it got dual or three projector or what,the most important is how is the design look: ugly or nice. This post has been edited by zacevox: Jan 11 2008, 01:49 AM |
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Jan 11 2008, 01:47 AM
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QUOTE(Witchblade @ Jan 11 2008, 01:39 AM) this model totally improve ..no more spare part from Tengku Mahaleel family(all spare part contract goes to their family)...so QC more more beter than gen2 or waja old model...anyway...new chairman come with new vision Those old time crony power windows all fail at around the same time wan Hope quality will improve. |
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Jan 11 2008, 01:59 AM
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QUOTE(zacevox @ Jan 11 2008, 01:46 AM) so only this extra you say that Savvy headlights is better? steven lim teh ping ~~~~~ lolz ~ kakakakakaka most people dont care either it got dual or three projector or what,the most important is how is the design look: ugly or nice. still kennot tahan when see ur avatar. btw, BLM look quite common car but well 30k ~ wat we expect ~ nice also ` great ~ better than viva if u as me |
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Jan 11 2008, 01:59 AM
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It looks reallu good, I'll buy one if I am allowed to do so, how about the engine?
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Jan 11 2008, 02:02 AM
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QUOTE(DaViDcHiN @ Jan 11 2008, 01:59 AM) It looks reallu good, I'll buy one if I am allowed to do so, how about the engine? ur wife bising u get 1 more car ? 1.3 campro. should be 1.3 gen2 engine. |
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Jan 11 2008, 02:05 AM
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How was everyone opinion on the gear stick????....normal or unnormal???
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Jan 11 2008, 02:08 AM
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look ok too me ~ dun have much comment since it not expensive car.
about testing i not sure have not test before |
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Jan 11 2008, 02:15 AM
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the engine... whts tht 4 box for?
from the pic, i can c IAFM is like a plugin... so means our campro cars can put it also rite? |
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Jan 11 2008, 02:22 AM
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yeah ~ I notice the wired wiring and like a fuse there ~ wat is IAFM ?
injection automated fuel machanism? |
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Jan 11 2008, 02:29 AM
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QUOTE(Aggronax @ Jan 11 2008, 02:22 AM) yeah ~ I notice the wired wiring and like a fuse there ~ wat is IAFM ? no lar, its intake air-fuel module... injection automated fuel machanism? |
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Jan 11 2008, 02:34 AM
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m... ? what it use for ?
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Jan 11 2008, 04:07 AM
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something like cold air intake?
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Jan 11 2008, 06:46 AM
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QUOTE(DaViDcHiN @ Jan 11 2008, 01:59 AM) It looks reallu good, I'll buy one if I am allowed to do so, how about the engine? QUOTE(Ultima @ Jan 11 2008, 02:15 AM) the engine... whts tht 4 box for? from the pic, i can c IAFM is like a plugin... so means our campro cars can put it also rite? QUOTE(Aggronax @ Jan 11 2008, 02:34 AM) m... ? what it use for ? IAFM is variable intake manifold. It means the intake manifold can have two different lengths to suit driving conditions. How it does is in general is to have a valve that can close and open to adjust the length of the manifold. Having a shorter air path from the filter to the engine is good at high engine RPM and a longer path is good when the engine is at low speed eg. city driving. With this it improves the overall torque curve of the engine giving it good low end torque and high end too. Other systems are VIM=variable intake manifold by toyota, Cyclone by Mitsubishi and many more including BMW who has this implemented on many models including the M performance cars if i am not mistaken.IAFM can be fit but i think but the cost is just too much, first you have to get the manifold and airbox set, followed by a new ECU as well. Not entirely plug and play. |
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Jan 11 2008, 09:23 AM
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ok larr...for a 30k car...but,doesn't it seems wierd at the meter panel??it's too small.i think it'll look better if it's wider..btw,waiting to see its performance gain compare to current campro.
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Jan 11 2008, 09:54 AM
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QUOTE(aizad02 @ Jan 11 2008, 09:23 AM) ok larr...for a 30k car...but,doesn't it seems wierd at the meter panel??it's too small.i think it'll look better if it's wider..btw,waiting to see its performance gain compare to current campro. Early reports are this engine is very torquey compared to the the original campro, new developments also notice is the direct coil on plug config instead of the waste spark system with dual coil being used now |
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Jan 11 2008, 09:59 AM
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QUOTE(rcracer @ Jan 11 2008, 09:54 AM) Early reports are this engine is very torquey compared to the the original campro, new developments also notice is the direct coil on plug config instead of the waste spark system with dual coil being used now very torquey?so its good rite? |
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Jan 11 2008, 10:05 AM
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QUOTE(Ultima @ Jan 11 2008, 09:59 AM) very torquey? yeah means a lot of pick up, no need rev highso its good rite? |
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Jan 11 2008, 10:07 AM
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QUOTE(rcracer @ Jan 11 2008, 10:05 AM) yeah means a lot of pick up, no need rev high then its good ler but how about the top speed? fear if very torquey lajak xde plak |
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Jan 11 2008, 10:08 AM
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Proton claim 170 only
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Jan 11 2008, 10:09 AM
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Jan 11 2008, 10:12 AM
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Nice pics... at least we can get a clear view of the Saga instead of the annoying teaser pics Proton is giving us now.
The front end is undoubtedly the most charming aspect of this car. It looks like it's descended from the new Proton family tree, sharing same aesthetic genes as the Satria Neo and of course it's sibling Savvy. Yet at the same time it looks distinctively unique. The rear end looks pretty good too. The rear lamps may resemble the old C-class, yet the entire look reminds me of a Skoda Octavia. At least it looks much acceptable than the awkward Savvy (I actually like the Savvy's radical look ) The side profile however looks relatively drab. For a car with such a charming front end, the side profile fails to fit in. The surface is flat while it turns from sporty to squarish/boxy towards the end; while the high boot makes it look like a commercial vehicle. The skinny wheels doesn't help either. My first impression was, OMFG... it's an A160 !! Interior looks really boring and cheap, although the material quality can't be seen from the pictures. The central console looks cheapskate. Savvy's dash actually looks better even though these two cars share quite a number of parts. Even though this is a budget car Proton should have given us a much better interior. Overall, it's looking good from the outside, but we'll need to see test drive reviews to know what's under the hood. Will this sub 40K machine wrestle market share from Perodua? Probably, if it doesn't suffer any more "traditional" Proton problems... It might just eat into the Viva's sales, and even it's own sibling Savvy because it has a boot. Yet the Myvi is less likely to be affected because of its different model range. |
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Jan 11 2008, 10:15 AM
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QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ Jan 11 2008, 10:12 AM) Nice pics... at least we can get a clear view of the Saga instead of the annoying teaser pics Proton is giving us now. its 1.3 bro, so same class with myvi but a lil cheaper The front end is undoubtedly the most charming aspect of this car. It looks like it's descended from the new Proton family tree, sharing same aesthetic genes as the Satria Neo and of course it's sibling Savvy. Yet at the same time it looks distinctively unique. The rear end looks pretty good too. The rear lamps may resemble the old C-class, yet the entire look reminds me of a Skoda Octavia. At least it looks much acceptable than the awkward Savvy (I actually like the Savvy's radical look )The side profile however looks relatively drab. For a car with such a charming front end, the side profile fails to fit in. The surface is flat while it turns from sporty to squarish/boxy towards the end; while the high boot makes it look like a commercial vehicle. The skinny wheels doesn't help either. My first impression was, OMFG... it's an A160 !! Interior looks really boring and cheap, although the material quality can't be seen from the pictures. The central console looks cheapskate. Savvy's dash actually looks better even though these two cars share quite a number of parts. Even though this is a budget car Proton should have given us a much better interior. Overall, it's looking good from the outside, but we'll need to see test drive reviews to know what's under the hood. Will this sub 40K machine wrestle market share from Perodua? Probably, if it doesn't suffer any more "traditional" Proton problems... It might just eat into the Viva's sales, and even it's own sibling Savvy because it has a boot. Yet the Myvi is less likely to be affected because of its different model range. but yeah, tht one got dvvt, very keng |
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Jan 11 2008, 10:22 AM
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I believe the pic was taken inside the proton shah alam plant. So whoever taken this picture and share it here with us is either Proton staff, or proton vendor.
Talking of ethic, whoever taken this pic, either proton staff or vendor, shame on u, you have breach the trust given to you. Spy shoot outside the factory is one thing, but this photo is kind of showing there are ppl who do not respect the confidentiality that they are suppose to keep. That really make me sad........ |
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Jan 11 2008, 10:23 AM
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this look kinda promising
price is kinda reasonable too |
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Jan 11 2008, 10:24 AM
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QUOTE(LPJ @ Jan 11 2008, 10:22 AM) I believe the pic was taken inside the proton shah alam plant. So whoever taken this picture and share it here with us is either Proton staff, or proton vendor. For people working for Proton... yeah, it's a shame.Talking of ethic, whoever taken this pic, either proton staff or vendor, shame on u, you have breach the trust given to you. Spy shoot outside the factory is one thing, but this photo is kind of showing there are ppl who do not respect the confidentiality that they are suppose to keep. That really make me sad........ For consumers like us, pictures like these are a blessing. How can we make a pre-order without even looking at actual pics? QUOTE(Ultima @ Jan 11 2008, 10:15 AM) its 1.3 bro, so same class with myvi but a lil cheaper I meant price + car size...but yeah, tht one got dvvt, very keng Myvi is still pretty much a mini mpv while the Saga is a sedan. DVVT or not, we'll need to see the Saga's engine before any conclusions can be made... Hence test drive reviews are needed This post has been edited by StarGhazzer: Jan 11 2008, 10:26 AM |
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Jan 11 2008, 10:28 AM
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good pics bro.
the front and rear exterior design looks nice but the side...hmm This post has been edited by hafislife: Jan 11 2008, 10:29 AM |
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Jan 11 2008, 10:32 AM
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kancil/kelisa = too small too cheap
myvi = too exp new saga = just nice.. haha |
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Jan 11 2008, 10:37 AM
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see how it sells and perform first la....
one more week only |
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Jan 11 2008, 10:39 AM
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Nice front and rear end. Can't say the same for the side profile and interior.
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Jan 11 2008, 10:47 AM
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WHOW NICE AR LOVE IT
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Jan 11 2008, 11:01 AM
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look nice only but last long or not !TT.TT later here rosak there rosak?!
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Jan 11 2008, 11:04 AM
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QUOTE(thom_chai @ Jan 11 2008, 10:39 AM) Nice front and rear end. Can't say the same for the side profile and interior. right...hope if there is r3 version (like TS said), hope it will hv better dashboard...seswai tif its r3 price..nway, neo r3 still not launch, even gen2 r3 xde lg...only mme verson ...  |
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Jan 11 2008, 11:04 AM
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Will not last long. The moment u drive away from showroom, ur tyre senget, ur steering fall down or worse, the engine caught in fire.
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Jan 11 2008, 02:00 PM
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QUOTE(Azuma-kun @ Jan 11 2008, 11:04 AM) Will not last long. The moment u drive away from showroom, ur tyre senget, ur steering fall down or worse, the engine caught in fire. is this your test drive experience????...kakakaka |
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Jan 11 2008, 02:05 PM
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nice pics, thx for sharing to lyn-ers...
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Jan 11 2008, 02:13 PM
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QUOTE(Azuma-kun @ Jan 11 2008, 11:04 AM) Will not last long. The moment u drive away from showroom, ur tyre senget, ur steering fall down or worse, the engine caught in fire. BASHER SPOTTED! |
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Jan 11 2008, 02:15 PM
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QUOTE(zacevox @ Jan 11 2008, 02:13 PM) BASHER SPOTTED! more like sacarsm not found |
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Jan 11 2008, 02:18 PM
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wow nice job bro, from the car design sell for rm30-rm40 consider not bad.
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Jan 11 2008, 02:20 PM
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QUOTE(lIMlIM @ Jan 11 2008, 02:18 PM) wow nice job bro, from the car design sell for rm30-rm40 consider not bad. i will 100 units of BLM from you... |
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Jan 11 2008, 02:24 PM
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hope the cars is not underpower..
since that the body is said kinda big .. if not gotta rev very high to achive power la... |
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Jan 11 2008, 02:25 PM
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it looks damn nice for a car that segment!..
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Jan 11 2008, 02:30 PM
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i like the cars, but from side, something wrong
but thnk god they did improve on front n rear |
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Jan 11 2008, 02:43 PM
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QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ Jan 11 2008, 10:24 AM) For people working for Proton... yeah, it's a shame. Agree. The supposedly proton staff is indeed very unethical in releasing these photos. And about pre-ordering w/o having a look at the actual model i guess it's a pretty common practice in automotive industry. Perhaps because it is PROTON people are doubtful to place an order before seeing it in flesh. Anyway, thousands do have faith in Proton and ordered their latest Saga For consumers like us, pictures like these are a blessing. How can we make a pre-order without even looking at actual pics? All the best Proton. Make us proud.This post has been edited by zc_squash: Jan 11 2008, 02:43 PM |
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Jan 11 2008, 02:51 PM
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QUOTE(Ultima @ Jan 11 2008, 10:07 AM) then its good ler The design is a city car, top speed is not important, but still i'm sure 140++ is more than capable.but how about the top speed? fear if very torquey lajak xde plak |
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Jan 11 2008, 02:54 PM
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QUOTE(rcracer @ Jan 11 2008, 02:51 PM) The design is a city car, top speed is not important, but still i'm sure 140++ is more than capable. yup, 140++ is capable i think for 1.3... |
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Jan 11 2008, 02:59 PM
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140 is far more capable le... i think can even reach 180, just gotta take some time
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Jan 11 2008, 03:26 PM
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how many of us travel at 180km/h anyway?
Allowed in Malaysia is only 110km/h.. lol. 95% of buyers for this will be within the 110km/h mark |
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Jan 11 2008, 03:35 PM
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Proton is back on track..im so happy
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Jan 11 2008, 03:40 PM
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QUOTE(lIMlIM @ Jan 11 2008, 02:18 PM) wow nice job bro, from the car design sell for rm30-rm40 consider not bad. U hav how many stock? I buy ALL... The front n rear is nicely designed, btu when I c from side, feel like something is wrong... |
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Jan 11 2008, 03:52 PM
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I told someone a long time ago that the rear looks fugly. I admit I was wrong...it actually looks...ugly...without the "f"
plus its now short and weird  The boot looks like its really close to the rear windscreen...quite dangerous there isn't it? At least the front and interior looks pretty good. |
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Jan 11 2008, 03:59 PM
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QUOTE(Aeon_Clock @ Jan 11 2008, 03:52 PM) I told someone a long time ago that the rear looks fugly. I admit I was wrong...it actually looks...ugly...without the "f" erhmmm, its not that ugly le.... front and back look pretty. just from sideview a bit weird... plus its now short and weird The boot looks like its really close to the rear windscreen...quite dangerous there isn't it? At least the front and interior looks pretty good. |
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Jan 11 2008, 04:09 PM
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QUOTE(jimmy.soo @ Jan 11 2008, 03:59 PM) erhmmm, its not that ugly le.... front and back look pretty. just from sideview a bit weird... ya way more better than tata nano... |
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Jan 11 2008, 04:13 PM
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Lol front red colour looks like mitsubishi new lancer....look carefully.
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Jan 11 2008, 04:20 PM
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dunno le..
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Jan 11 2008, 04:46 PM
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QUOTE(Aeon_Clock @ Jan 11 2008, 03:52 PM) I told someone a long time ago that the rear looks fugly. I admit I was wrong...it actually looks...ugly...without the "f" At least it got butt compare to myvi or viva.. plus its now short and weird The boot looks like its really close to the rear windscreen...quite dangerous there isn't it? At least the front and interior looks pretty good. |
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Jan 11 2008, 05:06 PM
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Just wild idea.. car hacking.. (just like what the American Chopper does for bikes) would be possible if Proton ship BLM like LEGO package..
Anyway..I' think the Proton BLM is "NO FRILL" car for general rakyat, pricing was right and engine performance should be reasonable and fuel consumption (IAMF) should be better than Proton Persona/Waja Campro (but like to see it close to Savvy). My wishlist of BLM, should have a air bag for driver at least,no more power windows problem (like SAGA), and welding gaps are closed/seal (no more mosquito lava breeding ground).. QUALITY in finish.. and GAPS should be closer.. It a rakyat car ... This post has been edited by debiankl: Jan 11 2008, 05:16 PM |
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Jan 11 2008, 05:08 PM
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the backlight reminds me of C class.
is it just me ??? |
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Jan 11 2008, 05:11 PM
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QUOTE(debiankl @ Jan 11 2008, 05:06 PM) My wishlist of BLM, should have a air bag for driver at least,no more power windows problem (like SAGA), and welding gaps are closed/seal (no more mosquito breeding ground).. QUALITY in finish.. and GAPS should be closer.. The BLM M-Line does come with an airbag for the driver seat. |
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Jan 11 2008, 05:18 PM
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noticed that the black strip on the door are not aligned properly in 2 of the photos
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Jan 11 2008, 05:25 PM
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QUOTE(zc_squash @ Jan 11 2008, 05:11 PM) The BLM M-Line does come with an airbag for the driver seat. Yes, that Proton perception that only certain product range should be enjoy safety feature and this happens becos the Govt did make this mandatory feature..  This issue should be raised up..as election is coming ... |
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Jan 11 2008, 05:27 PM
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i bet buyers who bought viva and old saga are crying now!
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Jan 11 2008, 05:30 PM
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QUOTE(hazremi @ Jan 11 2008, 05:27 PM) i bet buyers who bought viva and old saga are crying now! i dont think so, they should know saga & viva is consider OLD car 07 car, and BLM SAGA is 08 car , unless there is anyone buy old saga this year |
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Jan 11 2008, 05:50 PM
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QUOTE(debiankl @ Jan 11 2008, 05:25 PM) Yes, that Proton perception that only certain product range should be enjoy safety feature and this happens becos the Govt did make this mandatory feature.. i agree to this.... cut the profit margin and add one more airbag... This issue should be raised up..as election is coming ... i believe with 2 airbags (driver and passenger) it will surely sell... maklum la malaysians, airbags = premium features to them |
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Jan 11 2008, 05:53 PM
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i dun need tht stupid airbags
if for passenger, i dun mind, but for driver, its in the steering rite? |
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Jan 11 2008, 05:56 PM
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QUOTE(Ultima @ Jan 11 2008, 05:53 PM) i dun need tht stupid airbags yeah its in the steeringif for passenger, i dun mind, but for driver, its in the steering rite? |
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Jan 11 2008, 05:57 PM
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QUOTE(kcng @ Jan 11 2008, 05:56 PM) yeah its in the steering so useless lor for me, later cannot change sporty steering.... drive carefully la, then u dun need tht airbags |
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Jan 11 2008, 05:58 PM
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v can't call it BLM edi...its officialy the SAGA nw!!
no wonder dey sell da ah beng 1 v da noisy ass exhaust so cheap... |
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Jan 11 2008, 06:03 PM
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QUOTE(d3vilzzzz @ Jan 11 2008, 05:58 PM) v can't call it BLM edi...its officialy the SAGA nw!! now only u know ah??... no wonder dey sell da ah beng 1 v da noisy ass exhaust so cheap... btw, that day i read newpaper said the new saga only needs service at 10,000km interval instead of normal 5000km interval... i wonder what so special about the engine... less rotating parts??... |
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Jan 11 2008, 06:11 PM
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ahh....current protons also service at interval of 10k,after reach the 20k mark..later then,they put in the manual,change oil filter every 5k..what's the different???
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Jan 11 2008, 06:15 PM
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The inside looks very plastic
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Jan 11 2008, 06:18 PM
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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Jan 11 2008, 06:03 PM) now only u know ah??... they using fully full-sinatic oil btw, that day i read newpaper said the new saga only needs service at 10,000km interval instead of normal 5000km interval... i wonder what so special about the engine... less rotating parts??... |
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Jan 11 2008, 06:18 PM
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What do you expect from a so low-priced car???
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Jan 11 2008, 06:19 PM
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QUOTE(johnkor @ Jan 11 2008, 11:01 AM) look nice only but last long or not !TT.TT later here rosak there rosak?! Then u test la when u got the chance..how we r suppose to know?Added on January 11, 2008, 6:20 pm QUOTE(Azuma-kun @ Jan 11 2008, 11:04 AM) Will not last long. The moment u drive away from showroom, ur tyre senget, ur steering fall down or worse, the engine caught in fire. lol very funny one... Added on January 11, 2008, 6:27 pm QUOTE(Ultima @ Jan 11 2008, 05:57 PM) so useless lor for me, later cannot change sporty steering.... May the 'sporty spirit force' will be with u hehe...drive carefully la, then u dun need tht airbags This post has been edited by john_jenin: Jan 11 2008, 06:27 PM |
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Jan 11 2008, 06:30 PM
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whatever it is.. it does look nice and way better than viva
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Jan 11 2008, 06:35 PM
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QUOTE(shah_ho_nam @ Jan 11 2008, 06:30 PM) whatever it is.. it does look nice and way better than viva IMHO it look really nice..but agree with others about the side view...anyway for the price tag it's a bargain...simply outrun viva.. |
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Jan 11 2008, 06:38 PM
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true,now Proton car are cheap enough that making Perodua car is so expensive.
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Jan 11 2008, 06:40 PM
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front and back look good ... when look at the side is somehow weird already
and the interior ... looks very cheap.. lolzz (dun come flame me say wat you expect in a 30k car) |
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Jan 11 2008, 06:43 PM
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the door trim look beter but i hate the round aircond hole. yucks
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Jan 11 2008, 06:44 PM
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sure laaa....what u expect from a 30k car?? cheap car comes wif cheapo stuff lah....haha....so,later what's perodua gonna do to compete wif proton now???
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Jan 11 2008, 06:49 PM
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I prefer old saga aircond hole...it can blew directly to ur face...woah syok la...mine waja cant blew directly if sit at front passenger sit
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Jan 11 2008, 06:54 PM
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your Waja is the new facelite?
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Jan 11 2008, 06:54 PM
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so do we expect the new generation of KL taxis are this? since iswara are gonna gone for good...
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Jan 11 2008, 06:59 PM
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QUOTE(Jasonist @ Jan 11 2008, 06:54 PM) so do we expect the new generation of KL taxis are this? since iswara are gonna gone for good... ha never thought of that. but hell yeah i would like to sit in these cars |
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Jan 11 2008, 07:43 PM
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QUOTE(Witchblade @ Jan 10 2008, 11:10 PM) haha market strategy maybe... but still worth lol...from 31k-rm40k u can see rm40k version(white colour version) for ur information tiada power windows kat pintu belakang  no power windows OMGmalaysia boleh... |
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Jan 11 2008, 07:47 PM
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QUOTE(zacevox @ Jan 11 2008, 06:43 PM) the door trim look beter but i hate the round aircond hole. yucks Tried to copy myvi side air con but tak jadi.The interior looks cheap. But i just cant tahan some ppl who havent even test drive the car yet but still they say the handling is damn good.. |
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Jan 11 2008, 07:48 PM
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Only rear windows no power windows, I think current Saga also the same.
Hope the real thing is as good as it looks in the pics. |
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Jan 11 2008, 08:16 PM
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QUOTE(Jasonist @ Jan 11 2008, 06:54 PM) so do we expect the new generation of KL taxis are this? since iswara are gonna gone for good... i think i read that somewhere which said that BLM will be used as taxis.....dunno correct or not.btw, jeremy clarkson has once said the Savvy is a complete junk, now what'll happen if he tried on this new Saga? |
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Jan 11 2008, 08:19 PM
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QUOTE(~\G.O.D/~ @ Jan 11 2008, 07:43 PM) no power windows OMGmalaysia boleh... |
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Jan 11 2008, 08:20 PM
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QUOTE(ShinAsakura @ Jan 11 2008, 08:16 PM) i think i read that somewhere which said that BLM will be used as taxis.....dunno correct or not. maybe he'll use it to change that chev test tract carbtw, jeremy clarkson has once said the Savvy is a complete junk, now what'll happen if he tried on this new Saga? |
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Jan 11 2008, 08:23 PM
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the car look awkward if see from side... same as vios & city... tyre look small and look not compatible size with the body
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Jan 11 2008, 08:24 PM
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QUOTE(syazone @ Jan 11 2008, 08:23 PM) the car look awkward if see from side... same as vios & city... tyre look small and look not compatible size with the body but liana was proven best in cornering... |
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Jan 11 2008, 08:46 PM
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does the audio player support MP3/WMA?
or just normal CDA? |
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Jan 11 2008, 09:30 PM
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QUOTE(ShinAsakura @ Jan 11 2008, 08:16 PM) i think i read that somewhere which said that BLM will be used as taxis.....dunno correct or not. Why would you even care what jeremy has got to say?btw, jeremy clarkson has once said the Savvy is a complete junk, now what'll happen if he tried on this new Saga? |
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Jan 11 2008, 10:14 PM
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QUOTE(zc_squash @ Jan 11 2008, 09:30 PM) Why would you even care what jeremy has got to say? Good point~ |
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Jan 11 2008, 10:30 PM
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QUOTE(zc_squash @ Jan 11 2008, 09:30 PM) Why would you even care what jeremy has got to say? as another opinion/verdict regarding the new car of course. without a certain verdict/opinion stated by any source, how can people just buy a thing blindly without knowing it's pros and cons? now tis is my opinion. there's no need to get work out here haha (or am i the 1 who got worked out?) |
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Jan 11 2008, 10:59 PM
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QUOTE(Canopies @ Jan 11 2008, 06:49 PM) I prefer old saga aircond hole...it can blew directly to ur face...woah syok la...mine waja cant blew directly if sit at front passenger sit agree, my father's old iswara hv ntg better than the aircon, easily adjust the direction, after my father change it to vios, the aircon how u adjust also no feeling like that, some car even more worst, the circle aircon hole very hard to adjust, just like sh!t  |
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Jan 11 2008, 11:03 PM
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it looks like the laitio
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Jan 11 2008, 11:10 PM
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QUOTE(shah_ho_nam @ Jan 11 2008, 06:30 PM) whatever it is.. it does look nice and way better than viva the way viva hv been introduce.... not creative enuff... not interesting.... for me kereta P2 semua kecik-2.... not my taste.... |
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Jan 11 2008, 11:13 PM
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QUOTE(Revamperz @ Jan 10 2008, 11:06 PM) when the WRM ( gen2 codename ) is supposed to replace wira, they came up with new name.. err.. Gen2 different management. last one wanted to turn Proton into a sporty, luxurious brand which it clearly is not.while Persona IS a sedan version of gen2 , instead of gen2 sedan, they named it Persona.. when whole world apart Saga replacement out, they keep the name Saga.. ok i dont get it..QUOTE(kevin23 @ Jan 11 2008, 07:47 PM) Tried to copy myvi side air con but tak jadi. RM30k-40k car, you expect leather-coated dash, dual-zone aircond, and soft plastics?The interior looks cheap. But i just cant tahan some ppl who havent even test drive the car yet but still they say the handling is damn good.. The perception that a Proton handles good is because good handling has always been a Proton trademark since the Savvy. Same thing like how people say a Beemer will have good handling or a Merc will be comfortable even though the model has just been announced. Same thing how Peroboys always associate their cars with quality and powderful just because it has DVVT. This post has been edited by nerd: Jan 11 2008, 11:22 PM |
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Jan 11 2008, 11:17 PM
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QUOTE(CHIP CN @ Jan 11 2008, 11:10 PM) the way viva hv been introduce.... not creative enuff... not interesting.... for me kereta P2 semua kecik-2.... not my taste.... RUSA ? lolz ~ VIVA dun have much buyer even more they now have rival like Savvy and now BLM..... worst to worst viva may have a big discount. |
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Jan 11 2008, 11:28 PM
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QUOTE(nerd @ Jan 11 2008, 11:13 PM) different management. last one wanted to turn Proton into a sporty, luxurious brand which it clearly is not. fuh bro...u shot all them atas bawah depan belakang RM30k-40k car, you expect leather-coated dash, dual-zone aircond, and soft plastics? The perception that a Proton handles good is because good handling has always been a Proton trademark since the Savvy. Same thing like how people say a Beemer will have good handling or a Merc will be comfortable even though the model has just been announced. Same thing how Peroboys always associate their cars with quality and powderful just because it has DVVT.  anyway...it looks great the car. just hope it wont hav much quality defects diz time since we cant ensure that nothin 100% is perfect i personally like the exterior though. put bigger rim, lower it down and black tinted. fuh....very elegance look  |
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Jan 11 2008, 11:33 PM
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QUOTE(ShinAsakura @ Jan 11 2008, 10:30 PM) as another opinion/verdict regarding the new car of course. without a certain verdict/opinion stated by any source, how can people just buy a thing blindly without knowing it's pros and cons? now tis is my opinion. there's no need to get work out here haha (or am i the 1 who got worked out?) Yep sure getting an opinion is important but seriously, Jeremy Clarkson?! Top Gear is a good entertainment programme but they've never done a 'proper' review. The show has been biased, unfair and ridiculous when it comes to Korean and Malaysian cars. Try some other sources like Paul Tan, for example. LOL, i don't think any of us got worked out. Just a usual exchange of opinions Cheers.p/s: About buying things blindly...hm, i guess not really 'blind'. We have knew quite a lot about the BLM don't we? Pre-ordering is a usual practice in many fields. People usually pre-order without a complete knowledge about a certain product based on either brand loyalty or the past records of the brand. In gaming industry for instance, pre-ordering is normal when people have just only seen the trailers or played the demo. |
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Jan 11 2008, 11:46 PM
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i wonder when da dis car will hit jeremy clarkson's shw??
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Jan 11 2008, 11:47 PM
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i like the white one!!!
plan to get one! |
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Jan 12 2008, 12:03 AM
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QUOTE(nerd @ Jan 11 2008, 11:13 PM) different management. last one wanted to turn Proton into a sporty, luxurious brand which it clearly is not. HAHAHA..absoulute bullshit!RM30k-40k car, you expect leather-coated dash, dual-zone aircond, and soft plastics? The perception that a Proton handles good is because good handling has always been a Proton trademark since the Savvy. Same thing like how people say a Beemer will have good handling or a Merc will be comfortable even though the model has just been announced. Same thing how Peroboys always associate their cars with quality and powderful just because it has DVVT. Perception that proton handles good because good handling has been a Proton trademark????!! ohyea,lotus handling i remember... Quote of the year for 2008.... Anyway,back to the BLM,for 30-40 k car i aint expecting that much but that car seriously looks way too cramp.From the design of the seat i can see that it is very cramp and not spacious at all even though some may say it is a sedan.But my guess is it is even smaller than a Hyundai accent(Now dont come and tell me accent is RM 50k++ car) The steering looks bad.Looks to plastiky,and weird.The only positive is that the front is quite nice looking.The back is so so,and the side view is plain crap. But the most important is interior cause we spend most of the time in the car.I have given Proton many chances but the same old crappy problems occured in my bro's neo,my friends Persona.IF ppl buy this BLM,it definately because its cheap,nothing else. |
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Jan 12 2008, 12:06 AM
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well done...
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Jan 12 2008, 12:19 AM
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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Jan 12 2008, 12:03 AM) HAHAHA..absoulute bullshit! cant ask for much la bro..at that price with a 1.3cc it cant go any bigger..government issit wanna have this "1 keluarga 1 kereta" everyone can drive? Perception that proton handles good because good handling has been a Proton trademark????!! ohyea,lotus handling i remember... Quote of the year for 2008.... Anyway,back to the BLM,for 30-40 k car i aint expecting that much but that car seriously looks way too cramp.From the design of the seat i can see that it is very cramp and not spacious at all even though some may say it is a sedan.But my guess is it is even smaller than a Hyundai accent(Now dont come and tell me accent is RM 50k++ car) The steering looks bad.Looks to plastiky,and weird.The only positive is that the front is quite nice looking.The back is so so,and the side view is plain crap. But the most important is interior cause we spend most of the time in the car.I have given Proton many chances but the same old crappy problems occured in my bro's neo,my friends Persona.IF ppl buy this BLM,it definately because its cheap,nothing else. |
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Jan 12 2008, 12:25 AM
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QUOTE(NewbieBetta @ Jan 12 2008, 12:19 AM) cant ask for much la bro..at that price with a 1.3cc it cant go any bigger..government issit wanna have this "1 keluarga 1 kereta" everyone can drive? fix the traffic jam problem 1st.... |
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Jan 12 2008, 12:26 AM
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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Jan 12 2008, 12:03 AM) HAHAHA..absoulute bullshit! i dont think the statement is bullshit.. take my wira for example (year 95) compare to myvi's handling.. i confirm it is way better than myvi..Perception that proton handles good because good handling has been a Proton trademark????!! ohyea,lotus handling i remember... Quote of the year for 2008.... Anyway,back to the BLM,for 30-40 k car i aint expecting that much but that car seriously looks way too cramp.From the design of the seat i can see that it is very cramp and not spacious at all even though some may say it is a sedan.But my guess is it is even smaller than a Hyundai accent(Now dont come and tell me accent is RM 50k++ car) The steering looks bad.Looks to plastiky,and weird.The only positive is that the front is quite nice looking.The back is so so,and the side view is plain crap. But the most important is interior cause we spend most of the time in the car.I have given Proton many chances but the same old crappy problems occured in my bro's neo,my friends Persona.IF ppl buy this BLM,it definately because its cheap,nothing else. u said u aint expecting much but it seems like u r contradicting urself picture can be deceiving, so sit in the car before make any complain.. juz like Nissan grand livina where ppl said it is rival for innova.. once i sat on livina, i confirm it is smaller than my house avanza dont tell me ur overpriced myvi and viva doesnt have plastic feel.. now that is what i call fanboyism |
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Jan 12 2008, 12:34 AM
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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Jan 12 2008, 12:03 AM) HAHAHA..absoulute bullshit! I am honoured coz I actually make good enough statements to be considered as quote of the year.Perception that proton handles good because good handling has been a Proton trademark????!! ohyea,lotus handling i remember... Quote of the year for 2008.... Anyway,back to the BLM,for 30-40 k car i aint expecting that much but that car seriously looks way too cramp.From the design of the seat i can see that it is very cramp and not spacious at all even though some may say it is a sedan.But my guess is it is even smaller than a Hyundai accent(Now dont come and tell me accent is RM 50k++ car) The steering looks bad.Looks to plastiky,and weird.The only positive is that the front is quite nice looking.The back is so so,and the side view is plain crap. But the most important is interior cause we spend most of the time in the car.I have given Proton many chances but the same old crappy problems occured in my bro's neo,my friends Persona.IF ppl buy this BLM,it definately because its cheap,nothing else. Absolute bullshit? We'll see. I respect your ability to see quality of materials through camera phone pictures that are not capable of capturing such details, and also your ability to time travel to the future when the BLM is already launched and make a statement about interior space, and also the reason why people buy it. I wish I had it too  This post has been edited by nerd: Jan 12 2008, 12:36 AM |
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Jan 12 2008, 12:47 AM
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wow, a war is just begin.
QUOTE(imperialrealcs @ Jan 12 2008, 12:26 AM) i dont think the statement is bullshit.. take my wira for example (year 95) compare to myvi's handling.. i confirm it is way better than myvi.. err,Wira got Lotus help for their handling?u said u aint expecting much but it seems like u r contradicting urself picture can be deceiving, so sit in the car before make any complain.. juz like Nissan grand livina where ppl said it is rival for innova.. once i sat on livina, i confirm it is smaller than my house avanza dont tell me ur overpriced myvi and viva doesnt have plastic feel.. now that is what i call fanboyism |
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Jan 12 2008, 12:55 AM
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wira not yet. the lotus handling tech i think started with satria GTI i guess. but wira handling is better than myvi
. no doubt as they are different league already and tuned for different purpose..ah well that is my 2 cents only.. |
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Jan 12 2008, 12:56 AM
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QUOTE(zacevox @ Jan 12 2008, 12:47 AM) wow, a war is just begin. it's a so called only... even if u got lotus handling.. what for?? err,Wira got Lotus help for their handling? |
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Jan 12 2008, 12:57 AM
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leaked leaked
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Jan 12 2008, 12:58 AM
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the car looks better in pic compare to other protons... but must go n c directly.. but the price is affordable for 1.3.
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Jan 12 2008, 01:02 AM
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QUOTE(djdevan @ Jan 12 2008, 12:58 AM) the car looks better in pic compare to other protons... but must go n c directly.. but the price is affordable for 1.3. i agreed..... |
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Jan 12 2008, 01:11 AM
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car looks good. but only the back passenger part, it looks odd, abit too long on the back door tat it looks abit weird, n ugly too. mayb they should hav a better line at the back.
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Jan 12 2008, 01:17 AM
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my personal view, this new saga do looks nice. the interior definitely need some improvements.
anyway, that's my opinion from the first look. the things is, proton is improving. maybe the overall quality is not yet satisfied a lot of people, yet proton is showing some improvement. that's a good thing. I dont like jeremy clarkson. his show focus primarily on getting higher rating. good luck proton. |
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Jan 12 2008, 03:01 AM
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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Jan 12 2008, 12:03 AM) HAHAHA..absoulute bullshit! u just cant take it that handling has always been proton trademark as acclaimed by lots of motoring magazine right?Perception that proton handles good because good handling has been a Proton trademark????!! ohyea,lotus handling i remember... Quote of the year for 2008.... perodua fanboy just cant take it right, they need to win in all category? did most of the proton owners here claim that their car quality is top notch? most of them harp on the handling of the car.... show me a motoring magazine that says proton cars (since savvy onwards) handles like shiat and show me an article from a motoring magazine that says myvi handles better if not.... dont be sore |
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Jan 12 2008, 03:04 AM
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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Jan 11 2008, 07:47 PM) Tried to copy myvi side air con but tak jadi. so u trying to say myvi handles better then this la now?The interior looks cheap. But i just cant tahan some ppl who havent even test drive the car yet but still they say the handling is damn good.. cannot even complete with savvy on handling, wan to complete with a sedan? |
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Jan 12 2008, 03:09 AM
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Biar la dia. Give him a chance to win.
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Jan 12 2008, 03:09 AM
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QUOTE(imperialrealcs @ Jan 12 2008, 12:26 AM) i dont think the statement is bullshit.. take my wira for example (year 95) compare to myvi's handling.. i confirm it is way better than myvi.. Agreed. Wira's handling is much better than Myvi's. Myvi's handling is rubbish. Cheap plastics? Viva and Myvi's dashboard plastics looks and feels cheap too. For this BLM, i'm not too sure, as we need to check it out at the showroom first. I guess, most people will buy this car not only because it's cheap... they will buy it because it's a sedan. And we all know that most Malaysians prefer sedans.Especially good looking ones. u said u aint expecting much but it seems like u r contradicting urself picture can be deceiving, so sit in the car before make any complain dont tell me ur overpriced myvi and viva doesnt have plastic feel.. now that is what i call fanboyism |
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Jan 12 2008, 03:12 AM
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I've show this picture to my colleague. Guess what, some of them get interested because of the price
Design is wise, depends on own preference. But most of them said, front so nice and of coz, TOO CHEAP This post has been edited by Azuma-kun: Jan 12 2008, 03:12 AM |
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Jan 12 2008, 03:15 AM
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QUOTE(zacevox @ Jan 11 2008, 02:13 PM) BASHER SPOTTED!  QUOTE(kcng @ Jan 11 2008, 02:15 PM) more like sacarsm not found Only us know what it means This post has been edited by Azuma-kun: Jan 12 2008, 03:22 AM |
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Jan 12 2008, 03:50 AM
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how about the price????the design not bad ...
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Jan 12 2008, 04:18 AM
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RM31k to RM39k
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Jan 12 2008, 05:33 AM
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Nice, simple and clean design. Hope that the interior is better than Savvy.
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Jan 12 2008, 08:02 AM
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I think we really have to go to showroom see,feel n touch for ourself before commenting the interior material quality
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Jan 12 2008, 08:32 AM
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looks nice from the outside, wat is actually the real deal abt this car??
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Jan 12 2008, 08:47 AM
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QUOTE(zhixin @ Jan 12 2008, 08:32 AM) looks nice from the outside, wat is actually the real deal abt this car?? For me it's the engine..improved 1.3 Campro with IAFM...that should add more torque and FC conscious |
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Jan 12 2008, 09:06 AM
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QUOTE(zacevox @ Jan 12 2008, 04:18 AM) RM31k to RM39k lolz ~ i can't stop laugh seeing ur avatar ~ steven lim ~ lolz ~ QUOTE(zhixin @ Jan 12 2008, 08:32 AM) looks nice from the outside, wat is actually the real deal abt this car?? we dun know yet. need to be tested ~ QUOTE(john_jenin @ Jan 12 2008, 08:47 AM) For me it's the engine..improved 1.3 Campro with IAFM...that should add more torque and FC conscious hopefully, well I think at least better FC than before SAGA |
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Jan 12 2008, 09:41 AM
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QUOTE(Aggronax @ Jan 12 2008, 09:06 AM) hopefully, well I think at least better FC than before SAGA Yup..and hopefully this IAFM can also fit on current campro... |
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Jan 12 2008, 11:31 AM
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Some leaked brochure found on net.
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Jan 12 2008, 11:38 AM
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what a bad photoshop , they should make the butt of the car transparent tru the window of the front facing car .
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Jan 12 2008, 11:44 AM
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IMHO, not bad for a rm30k++ car...
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Jan 12 2008, 11:50 AM
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Another 6 days for official launching
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Jan 12 2008, 12:15 PM
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Binary, where did you get that from?
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Jan 12 2008, 12:23 PM
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QUOTE(zc_squash @ Jan 12 2008, 12:15 PM) Binary, where did you get that from? He he he.. from a trusted sauce... |
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Jan 12 2008, 12:23 PM
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Weh mana amik. Bak meh la brochure tu.
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Jan 12 2008, 12:23 PM
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QUOTE(binary @ Jan 12 2008, 11:31 AM) Some leaked brochure found on net. is this the master print for the whole brochure... but i am really feel weird... why this car is so cheap.. which part did they cut the cost?? More details |
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Jan 12 2008, 12:25 PM
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QUOTE(shah_ho_nam @ Jan 12 2008, 12:23 PM) is this the master print for the whole brochure... but i am really feel weird... why this car is so cheap.. which part did they cut the cost?? part where they cut cost...they did not put in the engine they did not fit brakes in it the door is made of plastic |
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Jan 12 2008, 12:32 PM
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haiz..
when proton sells out car for higher price most people said its not worth it for their so called cheap quality. but when they sell out cheap car people also complaint. most malaysian really want free car with enzo's quality and perfomance isit? |
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Jan 12 2008, 12:46 PM
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QUOTE(camel90 @ Jan 12 2008, 12:32 PM) haiz.. this only we called it truly Malaysian ma. when proton sells out car for higher price most people said its not worth it for their so called cheap quality. but when they sell out cheap car people also complaint. most malaysian really want free car with enzo's quality and perfomance isit? |
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Jan 12 2008, 01:13 PM
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QUOTE(kcng @ Jan 12 2008, 12:25 PM) part where they cut cost... i asked it cos if i look at the case of china product, yeah it might be cheap but can last for how long?? they cut cost on everything. ACER for example, proven to be the cheapest among lappy, but always ended up in cracking, breaking, and many other probs also.. than same here. many people bashing proton car saying that it n safety on the road and is not proven to be good in price also.. The depreciation price for proton cars also sucks years to years.. i didn't say that P2 shared the same probs but at least as a consumer i also need to know before ending up buying one. i also want to know what make it so competitive among other cars also... they did not put in the engine they did not fit brakes in it the door is made of plastic |
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Jan 12 2008, 01:25 PM
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Cannot comment on the quality, reliability or how long it will last yet since the car is not launched. Please note that, the price of car in Malaysia is high compared to other country so people are used to the "overpriced" pricing. So when a car is sold at a cheaper price people will think too much "cut cost" is done to make it cheap thus the quality is bad.
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Jan 12 2008, 01:32 PM
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QUOTE(caviars @ Jan 12 2008, 01:25 PM) Cannot comment on the quality, reliability or how long it will last yet since the car is not launched. Please note that, the price of car in Malaysia is high compared to other country so people are used to the "overpriced" pricing. So when a car is sold at a cheaper price people will think too much "cut cost" is done to make it cheap thus the quality is bad. there's more like it and sorry i didn't know how to tell them about it.. thanks btw |
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Jan 12 2008, 02:36 PM
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QUOTE(shah_ho_nam @ Jan 12 2008, 01:13 PM) i asked it cos if i look at the case of china product, yeah it might be cheap but can last for how long?? they cut cost on everything. ACER for example, proven to be the cheapest among lappy, but always ended up in cracking, breaking, and many other probs also.. than same here. many people bashing proton car saying that it n safety on the road and is not proven to be good in price also.. The depreciation price for proton cars also sucks years to years.. i didn't say that P2 shared the same probs but at least as a consumer i also need to know before ending up buying one. i also want to know what make it so competitive among other cars also... QUOTE(caviars @ Jan 12 2008, 01:25 PM) Cannot comment on the quality, reliability or how long it will last yet since the car is not launched. Please note that, the price of car in Malaysia is high compared to other country so people are used to the "overpriced" pricing. So when a car is sold at a cheaper price people will think too much "cut cost" is done to make it cheap thus the quality is bad. caviars explain it perfectly..shah_ho_nam, i ask u back, if myvi-2 (new model) is selling at 25k..... would u think that they are cutting cost? |
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Jan 12 2008, 02:58 PM
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oit...why la that door guard at the bottom...seems like it won't guard the door from anything,lah!!! btw,from the brochure,the top speed and acceleration 0 - 100km/h of tht car's lower than current campro 1.3!!
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Jan 12 2008, 03:10 PM
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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Jan 11 2008, 07:47 PM) Tried to copy myvi side air con but tak jadi. You are TEH WIN.The interior looks cheap. Myvi is the ONLY car in the world that has round aircon vents Interior does 'look' cheap, but we won't know until we feel it with our bare hands, right? I'm sure it won't be Beemer or Audi quality, not even to the extent of Japanese imports, yet I'm sure Proton won't be that stupid to give us crap materials this time round. Speaking of which, Myvi's dashboard also have cheap parts... the central console buttons are very thin and plasticky. My guess is that the Saga will have something similar. QUOTE(aizad02 @ Jan 12 2008, 02:58 PM) btw,from the brochure,the top speed and acceleration 0 - 100km/h of tht car's lower than current campro 1.3!! Top speed... hehe... that's not exactly important anyway. How many times do you need to speed up to 150kmh and above?What's more important is the FC and reliability of the engine. |
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Jan 12 2008, 03:14 PM
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for FC i don't think it'll be good..maybe myvi still better in fc..1.3 engine,for a sedan car?that's too much i think..how can it go if going for genting??
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Jan 12 2008, 03:21 PM
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QUOTE(kcng @ Jan 12 2008, 02:36 PM) shah_ho_nam, i ask u back, if myvi-2 (new model) is selling at 25k..... would u think that they are cutting cost? here's might be a glimpse of what they might do: 1) turning to cassette player instead of CD 2) definitely no SRS and ABS included might also change the quality of braking system 3) No more indicators at your side mirror and no auto adjust for it 4) No power window. 5) Carpet material might be changed 6) Engine capacity had been decrease might bad as 660 or at least 800. 7) Equivalent to 20k price cut. most engine bay and stuffs has been changed.. 8) Lastly people would ask, wow 20k discount...same price as kereta kebal.. -material means all including the shell, interior design, seats, seatbelt, wind shield, antenna to the previous one, and many more that u can imagine.. the ride will not the same standard as previous version - heheh.. that's just my opinion on cars.. btw no hard feelings for it.. live on |
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Jan 12 2008, 04:03 PM
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Because that is the only way if Proton want to turn back from their 2006 and 2007 loss.
a price war with Perodua just perfect to make Proton more competitive. Added on January 12, 2008, 4:13 pmso now Myvi and Viva is overprice compare to the new 1.3 Saga or the 1.6 Persona. This post has been edited by zacevox: Jan 12 2008, 04:13 PM |
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Jan 12 2008, 04:23 PM
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QUOTE(binary @ Jan 12 2008, 11:31 AM) Some leaked brochure found on net. How to get it in full size???? More details can't see the words! |
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Jan 12 2008, 04:32 PM
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QUOTE(zacevox @ Jan 12 2008, 04:03 PM) Because that is the only way if Proton want to turn back from their 2006 and 2007 loss. yeah especially viva.. now it's the right time to buy new car with new looka price war with Perodua just perfect to make Proton more competitive. Added on January 12, 2008, 4:13 pmso now Myvi and Viva is overprice compare to the new 1.3 Saga or the 1.6 Persona. |
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Jan 12 2008, 04:36 PM
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QUOTE(aizad02 @ Jan 12 2008, 03:14 PM) for FC i don't think it'll be good..maybe myvi still better in fc..1.3 engine,for a sedan car?that's too much i think..how can it go if going for genting?? I think its ok. it's weight is 1030Kg(manual) which is lighter than wira at 980kg(manual)/myvi 940kg(manual). Wira has 66kw/6000rpm(92bhp) 126nm/3000rpm Blm has 70kw/6000rpm(94bhp) 120nm/4000rpm Myvi has 64kw/6000rpm(85bhp) 116nm/3200rpm Comparing power to weight ratio the blm is not bad and why cant it go up genting since its more powerful than wira? This post has been edited by -storm-: Jan 12 2008, 04:52 PM |
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Jan 12 2008, 04:41 PM
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QUOTE(-storm- @ Jan 12 2008, 04:36 PM) I think its ok. it's weight is 1030Kg(manual) which is lighter than wira at 1370kg(manual). Why does everyone buying or discussing about cars will ask the "Genting" question?? Wira has 66kw/6000rpm(92bhp) 126nm/3000rpm Blm has 70kw/6000rpm(94bhp) 120nm/4000rpm Comparing power to weight ratio the blm is not bad and why cant it go up genting since its lighter and more powerful than wira? Since Kancil, Viva, MyVi and even the original Saga can, so why not the new Saga?? |
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Jan 12 2008, 04:45 PM
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-storm-, Wira only weight between 980 kg (2,161 lb)-1,011 kg (2,229 lb)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton_Wira 1370kg is even heavier than Perdana liao |
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Jan 12 2008, 04:45 PM
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QUOTE(jVIPERs2 @ Jan 12 2008, 04:41 PM) Why does everyone buying or discussing about cars will ask the "Genting" question?? I dont think they understand the term. Since Kancil, Viva, MyVi and even the original Saga can, so why not the new Saga?? Going up Genting is all about the driver and not the how powerful is the car. My wira auto tapau my fren wira manual technically not possible coz gear ratio does not permit it but some how i manage to to win. i got more balls to hentam coner |
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Jan 12 2008, 04:46 PM
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QUOTE(jVIPERs2 @ Jan 12 2008, 04:41 PM) Why does everyone buying or discussing about cars will ask the "Genting" question?? maybe it's the typical platform to test the strength of that car.. by the way just as always mentioned and i didn't remember from which paper, proton claimed that they got this new technology that proven on FC..radiator or what i didn't remember. could someone please tell us more about it Since Kancil, Viva, MyVi and even the original Saga can, so why not the new Saga?? |
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Jan 12 2008, 04:46 PM
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Malaysians, normal la.
Buy a car must ask the SA, boleh naik genting ka? Buy a car when it's cheap, must be cut cost. Buy a car, base on design. Buy a car, need abs, ebd, airbag but still dead (sorry for anyone feel offend with that statement, but it is a fact)What else? Oh i forgot 1 important thing. Engine must have "VVT" No V and T is lousy engine. |
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Jan 12 2008, 04:46 PM
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QUOTE(zacevox @ Jan 12 2008, 04:45 PM) -storm-, Wira only weight between 980 kg (2,161 lb)-1,011 kg (2,229 lb) I dono la i got from eon website one http://www.eon.com.my/article.cfm?id=100http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton_Wira 1370kg is even heavier than Perdana liao my mistake i look at gross weight instead of curb weight Added on January 12, 2008, 4:50 pm QUOTE(shah_ho_nam @ Jan 12 2008, 04:46 PM) maybe it's the typical platform to test the strength of that car.. by the way just as always mentioned and i didn't remember from which paper, proton claimed that they got this new technology that proven on FC..radiator or what i didn't remember. could someone please tell us more about it IAFM ma or VIM technology. Nvm im buying the car i'll be the guinea pig to test the fc http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variable_inlet_manifold This post has been edited by -storm-: Jan 12 2008, 04:51 PM |
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Jan 12 2008, 05:03 PM
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So the new BLM is confirmed as the new saga afterall.
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Jan 12 2008, 05:04 PM
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QUOTE(travis_ckf @ Jan 12 2008, 05:03 PM) So the new BLM is confirmed as the new saga afterall. haha it always is... BLM is just the codename afterall |
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Jan 12 2008, 05:09 PM
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QUOTE(jimmy.soo @ Jan 12 2008, 05:04 PM) haha it always is... BLM is just the codename afterall Well since Badawi will name the car, i have a bad telling that he will name the car as "Jeanne", so Proton Jeanne everyone!!!! |
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Jan 12 2008, 05:10 PM
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QUOTE(travis_ckf @ Jan 12 2008, 05:09 PM) Well since Badawi will name the car, i have a bad telling that he will name the car as "Jeanne", so Proton Jeanne everyone!!!! huh? it is a proton SAGA already... not Jeanne or Johnny |
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Jan 12 2008, 05:10 PM
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Jeanne Saga
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Jan 12 2008, 05:11 PM
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why can't we put a trust on our local made cars??
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Jan 12 2008, 05:12 PM
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Coz it's proton, not perodua. So simple what.
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Jan 12 2008, 05:14 PM
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QUOTE(hypermount @ Jan 11 2008, 01:08 AM) Look carefully - the hi and low beam bulbs are in the same reflector just like other P2 cars .. Savvy has dual projector-like reflector for hi and low beams like Waja and Satria NEO..and easy to install angel eyes. SO SEE creafully before making a fool out of yourself. QUOTE(zadan @ Jan 11 2008, 01:14 AM) this head lamp nicer design head lamp look like same with GETZ or CRV .........for a BLM this car is looking great but i can see that savvy has better interior quality than this,looks more solid. overall i do think this car will sell very well! 
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Jan 12 2008, 05:14 PM
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QUOTE(Azuma-kun @ Jan 12 2008, 05:12 PM) Coz it's proton, not perodua. So simple what. another proton basher??? c'mon lar... they're improving alot now leh arent they? dont say till like perodua is everything compare with proton Added on January 12, 2008, 5:15 pmperodua never had a sedan eh as far as i can recall This post has been edited by jimmy.soo: Jan 12 2008, 05:15 PM |
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Jan 12 2008, 05:16 PM
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QUOTE(Azuma-kun @ Jan 12 2008, 05:12 PM) Coz it's proton, not perodua. So simple what. can we at least give them a try on the road ... see if this car can run over those vios... |
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Jan 12 2008, 05:16 PM
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What improving? U think this people looking forward on proton improvement? They just hope proton die la. So their dream to have rx8 at 50k only can become true
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Jan 12 2008, 05:16 PM
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QUOTE(shah_ho_nam @ Jan 12 2008, 05:11 PM) why can't we put a trust on our local made cars?? I will give you a reason. Spot the difference. |
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Jan 12 2008, 05:21 PM
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QUOTE(jimmy.soo @ Jan 12 2008, 05:04 PM) haha it always is... BLM is just the codename afterall Saga shud be the name for this car.. it is displayed at the back of the cars in the photos unless they wan to make last min adjustments.. |
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Jan 12 2008, 05:24 PM
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QUOTE(jimmy.soo @ Jan 12 2008, 05:14 PM) another proton basher??? c'mon lar... they're improving alot now leh arent they? dont say till like perodua is everything compare with proton Added on January 12, 2008, 5:15 pmperodua never had a sedan eh as far as i can recall QUOTE(Azuma-kun @ Jan 12 2008, 05:16 PM) What improving? U think this people looking forward on proton improvement? They just hope proton die la. So their dream to have rx8 at 50k only can become true u know..i know maa.... |
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Jan 12 2008, 05:27 PM
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OMG you guys blind or what cant u see the defects i posted? What improvement when they cant even align properly. Sad anyway book already the car definitely will check the side for misalignments.
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Jan 12 2008, 05:39 PM
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QUOTE(travis_ckf @ Jan 12 2008, 05:09 PM) Well since Badawi will name the car, i have a bad telling that he will name the car as "Jeanne", so Proton Jeanne everyone!!!! Why not juz name it after himself?? QUOTE(-storm- @ Jan 12 2008, 05:16 PM) I will give you a reason. That is why they are called "Spy shots".. Spot the difference. |
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Jan 12 2008, 05:42 PM
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QUOTE(jVIPERs2 @ Jan 12 2008, 05:39 PM) Why not juz name it after himself?? Hope they rectify it before the launch la, if not it will be the 1st batch "issue" That is why they are called "Spy shots".. |
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Jan 12 2008, 06:03 PM
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QUOTE(-storm- @ Jan 12 2008, 05:42 PM) Hope they rectify it before the launch la, if not it will be the 1st batch "issue" If not, juz claim warranty~ |
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Jan 12 2008, 06:09 PM
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QUOTE(binary @ Jan 12 2008, 11:31 AM) Some leaked brochure found on net. How to get it in full size???? More details can't see the words! |
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Jan 12 2008, 06:42 PM
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jan 12 2008, 06:09 PM) How to get it in full size???? i can read wor. can't see the words!  |
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Jan 12 2008, 09:09 PM
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i heard we need to wait 4-5 months?
my bro call my SA she say wait 4-5 months is that long? |
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Jan 12 2008, 09:10 PM
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 aha...half way to go... |
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Jan 12 2008, 09:38 PM
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There still less than 1 week to go, we should see the full frame soon.
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Jan 12 2008, 09:46 PM
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Between Myvi and New Saga, which one you prefer ?
Added on January 12, 2008, 9:52 pmBut indeed, the solid eye very eye catching...nice.. This post has been edited by chyz66: Jan 12 2008, 09:52 PM |
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Jan 12 2008, 10:00 PM
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well..like someone said. u cant decid just by looking at it through pictures. but u hav to feel it, drive it blablabla..
but in terms of look and price...hehe..ill go for this SAGA |
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Jan 12 2008, 10:03 PM
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saw it outside cineleisure just now.. a lil' bit small for my taste but wad daya expect from a 30k++ car
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Jan 12 2008, 10:20 PM
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wat color is the illuminated dials????
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Jan 12 2008, 10:33 PM
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QUOTE(-storm- @ Jan 12 2008, 06:42 PM) i can read wor. left side can read....what abt the right side??? |
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Jan 12 2008, 10:35 PM
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I thought somebody already post the right side. U can find it on 2 other threads.
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Jan 12 2008, 11:55 PM
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jan 12 2008, 10:33 PM) left side can read....what abt the right side??? Right side is just data which previous page ppl had already posted. Try looking for it.Specs only ma i got the copy already. |
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Hi guys, here is something that i cooked up earlier in photoshop...just couldnt resist adding in some small modifications to it...
 if proton dont screw this up... this car is gonna sell well.... no offence...but viva owners are gonna be so f**ked up now |
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QUOTE(Xune @ Jan 13 2008, 12:01 AM) Hi guys, here is something that i cooked up earlier in photoshop...just couldnt resist adding in some small modifications to it... Not really, coz they're still praying for the quality to be bad, fc worst than them and their roadtax is still cheaper! if proton dont screw this up... this car is gonna sell well.... no offence...but viva owners are gonna be so f**ked up now |
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Jan 13 2008, 12:08 AM
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QUOTE(Xune @ Jan 13 2008, 12:01 AM) Hi guys, here is something that i cooked up earlier in photoshop...just couldnt resist adding in some small modifications to it... haha that design is exactly same as what i'm thinking now if proton dont screw this up... this car is gonna sell well.... no offence...but viva owners are gonna be so f**ked up now |
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Jan 13 2008, 12:54 AM
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QUOTE(jVIPERs2 @ Jan 13 2008, 12:07 AM) Not really, coz they're still praying for the quality to be bad, fc worst than them and their roadtax is still cheaper! each and every single time proton release a new entry level car, they will pray hard Added on January 13, 2008, 12:56 am QUOTE(jVIPERs2 @ Jan 12 2008, 06:03 PM) If not, juz claim warranty~ true... warranty isn't there for nothingThis post has been edited by soulfly: Jan 13 2008, 12:56 AM |
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Jan 13 2008, 12:57 AM
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QUOTE(Witchblade @ Jan 10 2008, 10:44 PM)
 Added on January 13, 2008, 12:58 am compare it with 3-series bumper which looks exactly the same .  This post has been edited by BridgestoneRE711: Jan 13 2008, 12:58 AM |
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Jan 13 2008, 01:05 AM
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mmg nama dia saga tgk gamba belakan tu kan tertulis saga belah kanan tu belah kiri maybe 1.3
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Jan 13 2008, 01:10 AM
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aiya, saga wont sell wan la
viva got dvvt, dual airbags, abs, ebd, toyota QC this saga? aper ade? plastic dah la buruk macam sial, airbag pun satu jer.... confirm lepas tu power window mesti rosak lepas 2 hari |
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Jan 13 2008, 01:53 AM
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from my initial expression, i'ld say gd effort from proton... tink it's a better buy den viva if dey can improve on de parts below (compare wif de savy which de car is based on):-
- larger interior legroom and headroom, mayb de back legroom but for the front tink ntg much can b altered since de A-pillar is de same as savvy's... - the 'thud' door sound when slamming the door to close compare to the savvy's 1 which gives a 'chuck' sound when it's slammed... - Lotus Handling like the savvy... - improved suspension system (have been told that savvy's suspension dun absorb bumps very well), ok i might affect the handling but it's a sedan so it shud b more comfortable... - improve on the interior plastic quality with some added features such as power windows and stuff lidat... - side turning signal and electric side mirror (dun mean de auto retractable wan)... anything u guys would like 2 add?? dat's juz my honest opinion... sorry if i've offended any savvy's fan here... as for the price factor i tink it's still ok dey price it a lil' bit more and add-on some extra features such as passengers airbag, back power window, side turning signal, etc... if those features can be added-on, it can actually compare and affect the myvi's sale instead of the viva only den we'll c a 2-dog fight between P1 and P2 and dat's not bad news tho... we'll get better cars at a reasonable price |
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Jan 13 2008, 02:07 AM
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QUOTE(Witchblade @ Jan 10 2008, 10:54 PM)  |
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Jan 13 2008, 02:38 AM
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3,429 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: alor star • selangor • skudai
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good effort .
somehow, i got the sense that someone will upgrade the engine to some bigger size engine such as the 1.6 campro or even certain mitsu engine as the campro mounting is almost the same . |
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Jan 13 2008, 07:34 AM
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Off course lah.. Malaysia got many "engineer" that can change wira to evo, kancil to mira, kenari to move. Not only engine, the whole car transform to a whole new car with GT wing summore.
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Jan 13 2008, 09:17 AM
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QUOTE(Xune @ Jan 13 2008, 12:01 AM) Hi guys, here is something that i cooked up earlier in photoshop...just couldnt resist adding in some small modifications to it... Sebijik macam golf gti if proton dont screw this up... this car is gonna sell well.... no offence...but viva owners are gonna be so f**ked up now |
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Jan 13 2008, 09:53 AM
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QUOTE(LPJ @ Jan 11 2008, 10:22 AM) I believe the pic was taken inside the proton shah alam plant. So whoever taken this picture and share it here with us is either Proton staff, or proton vendor. I dont think proton would really mind some leaked pictures. in fact, I think it's good for them. it helps them to promote their new car. I am wondering if this was done on purpose by proton to increase our 'desire' to own that car.Talking of ethic, whoever taken this pic, either proton staff or vendor, shame on u, you have breach the trust given to you. Spy shoot outside the factory is one thing, but this photo is kind of showing there are ppl who do not respect the confidentiality that they are suppose to keep. That really make me sad........ witchblade, nice pictures. u had shown me something I wanted to see oh so long time ago...... thanx |
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Jan 13 2008, 09:54 AM
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QUOTE(shah_ho_nam @ Jan 12 2008, 01:13 PM) i asked it cos if i look at the case of china product, yeah it might be cheap but can last for how long?? they cut cost on everything. ACER for example, proven to be the cheapest among lappy, but always ended up in cracking, breaking, and many other probs also.. than same here. many people bashing proton car saying that it n safety on the road and is not proven to be good in price also.. The depreciation price for proton cars also sucks years to years.. i didn't say that P2 shared the same probs but at least as a consumer i also need to know before ending up buying one. i also want to know what make it so competitive among other cars also... Time will tell wheter this car will outrun *cough*viva*cough* or not...Added on January 13, 2008, 10:02 am QUOTE(-storm- @ Jan 12 2008, 05:16 PM) I will give you a reason. Small matter..u can check it firsthand at showroom when it's launched...if it's really looking like that then just abandon the car..simple..Spot the difference. This post has been edited by john_jenin: Jan 13 2008, 10:02 AM |
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Jan 13 2008, 11:24 AM
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QUOTE(kcng @ Jan 13 2008, 01:10 AM) aiya, saga wont sell wan la Fuiyooooo...really ah? viva got dvvt, dual airbags, abs, ebd, toyota QC this saga? aper ade? plastic dah la buruk macam sial, airbag pun satu jer.... confirm lepas tu power window mesti rosak lepas 2 hari |
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Jan 13 2008, 11:29 AM
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QUOTE(BridgestoneRE711 @ Jan 13 2008, 02:38 AM) good effort . the first thing to as before buying proton cars.. what engine that can be transplanted into it.. same here i wanna know also.. i guess there's only one man who can answer this question.. bring on the_catacombssomehow, i got the sense that someone will upgrade the engine to some bigger size engine such as the 1.6 campro or even certain mitsu engine as the campro mounting is almost the same . |
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Jan 13 2008, 12:11 PM
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YUCK!!
i really have no idea why they got paid to design somesort of baseline car like this for the rakyat..... ewww! Added on January 13, 2008, 12:13 pmhonestly the previosu saga looks better interms of originality and a lot much contemporary look than this! This post has been edited by stevenek3: Jan 13 2008, 12:13 PM |
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Jan 13 2008, 12:18 PM
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huh!!i think this blm's better than the very old saga...the engine,the body are better what..and plus,it's even cheaper than the very old......saga.
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Jan 13 2008, 12:18 PM
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QUOTE(stevenek3 @ Jan 13 2008, 12:11 PM) YUCK!! ok,i dont agree with you,i guess most of us also do not agree with you.i really have no idea why they got paid to design somesort of baseline car like this for the rakyat..... ewww! Added on January 13, 2008, 12:13 pmhonestly the previosu saga looks better interms of originality and a lot much contemporary look than this! anyway,you dont like this car rite?don't buy it and stop blabbering here,viva and myvi got so much originality i guess |
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Jan 13 2008, 12:27 PM
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yeahh....sooo much originality mah....dat's y can see so many twins
. this day car launched,tomorrow got bodykit edi,convert to toyota,convert to daihatsu...wuiyyoo... |
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Jan 13 2008, 12:31 PM
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The old Saga is a rebadge (based on Lancer Fiore), the same applies to the Myvi and other models...
At least, this is a leap forward for Saga after the current model is at the frontline for more than 20 years...i think they have done a great job on front and rear, side profile is okay... |
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Jan 13 2008, 01:18 PM
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QUOTE(Witchblade @ Jan 10 2008, 10:54 PM) ps. rempits, beware This post has been edited by badSeed: Jan 13 2008, 01:19 PM |
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Jan 13 2008, 01:27 PM
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QUOTE(stevenek3 @ Jan 13 2008, 12:11 PM) YUCK!! Well, I'll say it's nicer than than India's BLM..i really have no idea why they got paid to design somesort of baseline car like this for the rakyat..... ewww! Added on January 13, 2008, 12:13 pmhonestly the previosu saga looks better interms of originality and a lot much contemporary look than this! And if u think the ori Saga is more original, pls go do some read up before posting such silly opinion of yours~ QUOTE(aizad02 @ Jan 13 2008, 12:27 PM) yeahh....sooo much originality mah....dat's y can see so many twins There's also a BMW version u can transform it into~ . this day car launched,tomorrow got bodykit edi,convert to toyota,convert to daihatsu...wuiyyoo... |
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Jan 13 2008, 01:50 PM
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QUOTE(stevenek3 @ Jan 13 2008, 12:11 PM) YUCK!! yeah..i agree with you..saga looks more original..that's why mitsu rebadge the old saga..wait..is it the other way around? i really have no idea why they got paid to design somesort of baseline car like this for the rakyat..... ewww! Added on January 13, 2008, 12:13 pmhonestly the previosu saga looks better interms of originality and a lot much contemporary look than this! |
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Jan 13 2008, 02:10 PM
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QUOTE(Xune @ Jan 13 2008, 12:01 AM) Hi guys, here is something that i cooked up earlier in photoshop...just couldnt resist adding in some small modifications to it... hulala...nice saga GTI if proton dont screw this up... this car is gonna sell well.... no offence...but viva owners are gonna be so f**ked up now |
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Jan 13 2008, 02:23 PM
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QUOTE(Witchblade @ Jan 10 2008, 11:00 PM) spt ckp ttadik pls don sue me...official 18hb baru ada kluar dlm tv /newspaper haha..... nobody is going to sue u. this actually helps a lot of people, including proton themself.QUOTE(Revamperz @ Jan 10 2008, 11:06 PM) when the WRM ( gen2 codename ) is supposed to replace wira, they came up with new name.. err.. Gen2 I kind of like it though when they retain the saga name.... new saga begins.... the saga continues....while Persona IS a sedan version of gen2 , instead of gen2 sedan, they named it Persona.. when whole world apart Saga replacement out, they keep the name Saga.. ok i dont get it.. |
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Jan 13 2008, 02:24 PM
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How About These?
Facelifted Version  Evo X/ Lancer GT Look Alike  |
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Jan 13 2008, 02:39 PM
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ready stock cars reaches kuching port liaw..my dad saw it..thousands of them..
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Jan 13 2008, 02:49 PM
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QUOTE(stevenek3 @ Jan 13 2008, 12:11 PM) YUCK!! Originality? How could the old saga looked more 'original' when it is a mitsubishi rebadged?i really have no idea why they got paid to design somesort of baseline car like this for the rakyat..... ewww! Added on January 13, 2008, 12:13 pmhonestly the previosu saga looks better interms of originality and a lot much contemporary look than this! |
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Jan 13 2008, 03:04 PM
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QUOTE(zc_squash @ Jan 13 2008, 02:49 PM) Originality? How could the old saga looked more 'original' when it is a mitsubishi rebadged? He's just plain silly bashing without even knowledge about Proton Saga history... |
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Jan 13 2008, 03:05 PM
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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Jan 12 2008, 12:03 AM) HAHAHA..absoulute bullshit! what is ur full name, kevin clarkson??? are u the brother of jeremy clarkson??? Perception that proton handles good because good handling has been a Proton trademark????!! ohyea,lotus handling i remember... Quote of the year for 2008.... Anyway,back to the BLM,for 30-40 k car i aint expecting that much but that car seriously looks way too cramp.From the design of the seat i can see that it is very cramp and not spacious at all even though some may say it is a sedan.But my guess is it is even smaller than a Hyundai accent(Now dont come and tell me accent is RM 50k++ car) The steering looks bad.Looks to plastiky,and weird.The only positive is that the front is quite nice looking.The back is so so,and the side view is plain crap. But the most important is interior cause we spend most of the time in the car.I have given Proton many chances but the same old crappy problems occured in my bro's neo,my friends Persona.IF ppl buy this BLM,it definately because its cheap,nothing else. yo kevin, now I come n tell u that accent is RM 50k++. what is ur reason for not comparing the blm and the accent price? they are both roughly the same size. |
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Jan 13 2008, 03:36 PM
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BLM ni amik model citroen yg mana? mcm tiara & waja... tipikal.
copy paste edit save. |
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Jan 13 2008, 03:38 PM
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QUOTE(shiman @ Jan 13 2008, 03:36 PM) BLM ni amik model citroen yg mana? mcm tiara & waja... tipikal. And now designing new car macam budak2 main photoshop pulak? copy paste edit save. |
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 Jan 13 2008, 03:42 PM
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QUOTE(john_jenin @ Jan 13 2008, 03:38 PM) And now designing new car macam budak2 main photoshop pulak? hehehe.. 3rd class so called engineers..baik employ graphic designer byk2 je.. all photoshop/corel draw based. no need 3d modellin. |
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Jan 13 2008, 03:44 PM
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fuh...
photoshopping to make a car. damn, malaysian sure got many ahli sihir loh. they think to make some shape with metal is like priting on the piece of paper. ROFL just that proton make new model but still got iras2 with their previous models. people will smash proton on the spot. u people who said that never saw other maker produce their models sith similarities among them kah? so stupid until didnt know how to use google to serch for it? |
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Jan 13 2008, 03:45 PM
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QUOTE(shiman @ Jan 13 2008, 03:42 PM) hehehe.. 3rd class so called engineers.. Hehe...and u don't get my sarcasm..... baik employ graphic designer byk2 je.. all photoshop/corel draw based. no need 3d modellin. |
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Jan 13 2008, 03:48 PM
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QUOTE(john_jenin @ Jan 13 2008, 03:38 PM) And now designing new car macam budak2 main photoshop pulak? lol...IT is a kid talking.. |
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Jan 13 2008, 03:51 PM
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QUOTE(apache_utara @ Jan 13 2008, 03:48 PM) lol... Hehe..design toilet bowl also can use photoshop maa.... IT is a kid talking.. |
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Jan 13 2008, 04:08 PM
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haha... ok what if design look alike previous model. try look at mercedes, bmw, they look the same, with fist sight we'll know that is merce, bmw
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Jan 13 2008, 04:12 PM
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Looks pretty cool... prefer Savvy lights & interior more (new aircond's nicer tho) but overall it's a sweet looking car, and what makes me happiest is that this car's gonna be all over the roads, and to have an updated version of the saga, instead of the old boxy one filling the roads, is definitely a good thing
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Jan 13 2008, 04:13 PM
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You know what, a perodua salesman told me just now the new saga will be still using the old saga engine. Just the outlook is different.. i lol-ed... I am speechless.
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Jan 13 2008, 04:16 PM
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QUOTE(kcng @ Jan 13 2008, 01:10 AM) aiya, saga wont sell wan la viva is the best. with dvvt can smoke this saga anytime. no fight at all.viva got dvvt, dual airbags, abs, ebd, toyota QC this saga? aper ade? plastic dah la buruk macam sial, airbag pun satu jer.... confirm lepas tu power window mesti rosak lepas 2 hari and got toyota QC, hit by lorry also no problem |
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Jan 13 2008, 04:18 PM
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QUOTE(chyz66 @ Jan 13 2008, 04:13 PM) You know what, a perodua salesman told me just now the new saga will be still using the old saga engine. Just the outlook is different.. i lol-ed... I am speechless. True ah?? Wow that's a new one... i think they're out of idea+ignorant to learn about their competitor...imagine Saga 2008 using 4g13p carburator |
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Jan 13 2008, 04:20 PM
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QUOTE(john_jenin @ Jan 13 2008, 05:18 PM) True ah?? Wow that's a new one... Ya, he told me it is actually another saga facelifted version... that's why can so cheap i think they're out of idea+ignorant to learn about their competitor...imagine Saga 2008 using 4g13p carburator |
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Jan 13 2008, 04:22 PM
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Jan 13 2008, 04:16 PM) viva is the best. with dvvt can smoke this saga anytime. no fight at all. and got toyota QC, hit by lorry also no problem |
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Jan 13 2008, 04:22 PM
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Jan 13 2008, 04:16 PM) viva is the best. with dvvt can smoke this saga anytime. no fight at all. like that meh? and got toyota QC, hit by lorry also no problem then i'll buy those overprice 1.0 viva larThis post has been edited by syazone: Jan 13 2008, 04:23 PM |
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Jan 13 2008, 04:24 PM
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i want to sell my EF and buy a Viva... then add GT wing and boom-boom sound system
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Jan 13 2008, 04:29 PM
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Proton should have done abit to improve their interior part.....they have done well in exterior part, it's enough for SAGA version. Hope to see total CHANGED in PERDANA next time.
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Jan 13 2008, 04:48 PM
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QUOTE(shiman @ Jan 13 2008, 03:36 PM) BLM ni amik model citroen yg mana? mcm tiara & waja... tipikal. Citroen? Bukan renault lagi ker? Nissan kot. Daihatsu, Toyota memang mustahil la.copy paste edit save. Honda lagi la, tak yah mimpi la. |
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Jan 13 2008, 04:58 PM
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QUOTE(Azuma-kun @ Jan 13 2008, 04:48 PM) Citroen? Bukan renault lagi ker? Nissan kot. Daihatsu, Toyota memang mustahil la. something like tisHonda lagi la, tak yah mimpi la.  |
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Jan 13 2008, 04:59 PM
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Oh...i know. Impreza
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Jan 13 2008, 05:04 PM
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So anyone here booked the car ? Or planning to buy ? I visit a shopping mall just now and there are perodua doing promo. So the SA keep intro MyVi to me...
and talk alot bad about others.... |
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Jan 13 2008, 05:04 PM
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Haha...desperate?
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Jan 13 2008, 05:13 PM
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QUOTE(kslow2168 @ Jan 13 2008, 05:58 PM) something like tis the front looks not bad.. wonder how the engine performs. |
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Jan 13 2008, 05:35 PM
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QUOTE(Azuma-kun @ Jan 13 2008, 06:04 PM) Haha...desperate? I dunno. When i asked him opinion about the upcoming Saga, he said : That's not new lah, it's only facelift version,just outlook change and add something new only. Engine still same as old saga. Then keep intro me MyVi 1.0 over Viva 1.0 |
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Jan 13 2008, 05:41 PM
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if i were a sales manager, if i have an SA with lack of knowledge (even it's about competitor's product) like that sure i fire already. bikin malu saja. good SA doesn't talk bad about other car, but rather explain the advantage of the product he's selling.
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Jan 13 2008, 05:51 PM
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Jan 13 2008, 05:41 PM) if i were a sales manager, if i have an SA with lack of knowledge (even it's about competitor's product) like that sure i fire already. bikin malu saja. good SA doesn't talk bad about other car, but rather explain the advantage of the product he's selling. That shows the they are desperate lo |
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Jan 13 2008, 06:57 PM
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QUOTE(syazone @ Jan 13 2008, 04:22 PM) like that meh? i support you 200% mate,a viva with dvvt engine and toyota QC is worth more than a proton persona then i'll buy those overprice 1.0 viva lar |
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Jan 13 2008, 06:59 PM
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QUOTE(Azuma-kun @ Jan 13 2008, 04:59 PM) Oh...i know. Impreza scoop version wasn't available i guess |
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Jan 13 2008, 07:28 PM
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So, they maintain the Saga name.
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Jan 13 2008, 07:35 PM
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QUOTE(chyz66 @ Jan 13 2008, 05:35 PM) I dunno. When i asked him opinion about the upcoming Saga, he said : That's not new lah, it's only facelift version,just outlook change and add something new only. Engine still same as old saga. tis is all new model la.. Then keep intro me MyVi 1.0 over Viva 1.0using renault platform.. |
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Jan 13 2008, 07:46 PM
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proton really do some turn around now...
i can see the gen2 in sunway sebarang jaya was quite impresive..a sporty car...and now the proton saga with a look like civic infront and just RM30-35k ...what you wan somemore from it..This post has been edited by stevenlee: Jan 13 2008, 07:47 PM |
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Jan 13 2008, 07:51 PM
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QUOTE(tiSSue_paPer @ Jan 13 2008, 07:35 PM) tis is all new model la.. it's using the same platform as savvy, doesn't relate to any renault at allusing renault platform.. |
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Jan 13 2008, 09:26 PM
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QUOTE(chyz66 @ Jan 13 2008, 05:35 PM) I dunno. When i asked him opinion about the upcoming Saga, he said : That's not new lah, it's only facelift version,just outlook change and add something new only. Engine still same as old saga. aduhhhhh.... salesman standard 6 ka..... tah tah nak buka tayar kereta pun x reti..... Then keep intro me MyVi 1.0 over Viva 1.0 |
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Jan 13 2008, 09:27 PM
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QUOTE(CHIP CN @ Jan 13 2008, 09:26 PM) aduhhhhh.... salesman standard 6 ka..... tah tah nak buka tayar kereta pun x reti..... Suruh check kan keta masa collect pun die tatau kot. |
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Jan 13 2008, 10:57 PM
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Jan 13 2008, 04:16 PM) viva is the best. with dvvt can smoke this saga anytime. no fight at all. u understand me.....and got toyota QC, hit by lorry also no problem saga what? buang masa jer la QUOTE(chyz66 @ Jan 13 2008, 05:35 PM) I dunno. When i asked him opinion about the upcoming Saga, he said : That's not new lah, it's only facelift version,just outlook change and add something new only. Engine still same as old saga. i so wanted to meet this salesman Then keep intro me MyVi 1.0 over Viva 1.0QUOTE(hazremi @ Jan 13 2008, 06:57 PM) i support you 200% mate,a viva with dvvt engine and toyota QC is worth more than a proton persona exactly... so why buy proton?no dvvt, no toyota QC, boleh buang jer la kereta ni... airbag pun tak tau real airbag or plastic bag |
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Jan 13 2008, 11:10 PM
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U have to drive this saga before meet the salesman.
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Jan 13 2008, 11:24 PM
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tempting..price is ok for my likings.
hopefully someone i know is one of the first few thousands who is going to receive this car. Test drive first.... |
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Jan 13 2008, 11:46 PM
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i tot i saw one already on the road. brown color.. i can only remember the plate WLC XXX
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Jan 14 2008, 01:28 AM
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hi, anyone dude here looking for BLM or need any info can pm me...
i helping my friend to sell this car.. as a broker... pm for more details, arrange test drive or best price n free gift... booking Rm500 is refundable.. introduce ur friends looking for tis model to earn commision also... let me know.. thanks!! |
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Jan 14 2008, 01:55 AM
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QUOTE(loon1983 @ Jan 14 2008, 01:28 AM) hi, anyone dude here looking for BLM or need any info can pm me... any free gift that u can offer me???i helping my friend to sell this car.. as a broker... pm for more details, arrange test drive or best price n free gift... booking Rm500 is refundable.. introduce ur friends looking for tis model to earn commision also... let me know.. thanks!! and can send me the brochure?? |
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Jan 14 2008, 04:26 AM
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 Any comment? |
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Jan 14 2008, 06:43 AM
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QUOTE(loon1983 @ Jan 14 2008, 01:28 AM) hi, anyone dude here looking for BLM or need any info can pm me... what are the specs? price? what free gift?i helping my friend to sell this car.. as a broker... pm for more details, arrange test drive or best price n free gift... booking Rm500 is refundable.. introduce ur friends looking for tis model to earn commision also... let me know.. thanks!! |
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Jan 14 2008, 12:12 PM
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QUOTE(kcng @ Jan 13 2008, 10:57 PM) u understand me..... lol saga what? buang masa jer la i so wanted to meet this salesman exactly... so why buy proton? no dvvt, no toyota QC, boleh buang jer la kereta ni... airbag pun tak tau real airbag or plastic bag why so hate this new saga...just give them a chance first lor |
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Jan 14 2008, 12:13 PM
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QUOTE(hafislife @ Jan 14 2008, 12:12 PM) lol Bro, u better know who is kc before reply his post why so hate this new saga...just give them a chance first lor |
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Jan 14 2008, 12:17 PM
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QUOTE(Azuma-kun @ Jan 14 2008, 12:13 PM) Bro, u better know who is kc before reply his post no idea...care to let me know |
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Jan 14 2008, 12:20 PM
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QUOTE(kcng @ Jan 13 2008, 10:57 PM) airbag pun tak tau real airbag or plastic bag Not balloon meh? The one that can twist become poodle? |
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Jan 14 2008, 12:42 PM
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QUOTE(kcng @ Jan 13 2008, 10:57 PM) no dvvt, no toyota QC, boleh buang jer la kereta ni... |
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Jan 14 2008, 12:55 PM
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KC just being sarcastic jer....
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Jan 14 2008, 01:08 PM
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i heard need at least 2 months waiting list
so hot meh? |
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Jan 14 2008, 01:09 PM
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Nice what. Means this new saga got alot of potential buyer.
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Jan 14 2008, 01:30 PM
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the outside looks ok
but the interior.. looks cheap but cant hiam too much .. its a 30k car after all |
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Jan 14 2008, 01:32 PM
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QUOTE(Azuma-kun @ Jan 14 2008, 12:20 PM) Not balloon meh? The one that can twist become poodle? Using balloon is better than used condom =x *spams* |
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Jan 14 2008, 01:38 PM
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this saga yeah, is sux
better buy those p2, good quality summore.. hi price, better quality rite |
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Jan 14 2008, 01:48 PM
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QUOTE(Ultima @ Jan 14 2008, 01:38 PM) this saga yeah, is sux oh man,pls stop,i want to cry already. better buy those p2, good quality summore.. hi price, better quality rite p2 is a god gift to mankind. myvi is better than suzuki swift,and viva is better than proton saga. viva@true love myvi@it's a passion |
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Jan 14 2008, 02:09 PM
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QUOTE(hazremi @ Jan 14 2008, 01:48 PM) myvi is better than suzuki swift,and viva is better than proton saga. myvi better than those swift?? |
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Jan 14 2008, 02:13 PM
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warning large display so that you can see clearly! » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « so disappointed with Proton's QC. |
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Jan 14 2008, 02:41 PM
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maybe they r not finalize yet?
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Jan 14 2008, 02:50 PM
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QUOTE(ghost321 @ Jan 14 2008, 02:13 PM) warning large display so that you can see clearly! That's kinda funny, I mean, it seems that all the new Saga I see have mis-aligned side strips. If it's a QC problem wouldn't it be restricted to a few cars, or at the worst case scenario, a few cars will have properly aligned strips? » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « so disappointed with Proton's QC. |
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Jan 14 2008, 03:06 PM
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it's actually their design? or maybe later they will claim it it's their design.
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Jan 14 2008, 03:22 PM
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Just wait for the car to be launch first and see if the door strips same as those pics.
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Jan 14 2008, 04:02 PM
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QUOTE(ghost321 @ Jan 14 2008, 03:13 PM) so disappointed with Proton's QC. |
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Jan 14 2008, 04:40 PM
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I bet the final production cars will have non of the door strips, save cost and no quality issue.
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Jan 14 2008, 04:50 PM
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QUOTE(chyz66 @ Jan 14 2008, 04:02 PM) Don't understand. What does that mean ? from the pictures, looks like the new sagas (Proton "black metal" BLM) were mass produced to meet the demand after the official launching.see the mis-aligned side strips VS the leaked brochure which doesn't have the miss align strips. Just a very simple thing, Proton Quality Control "QC" can miss out. That already portrait an important image of the company which is lacking of better or excellent QC. I hope Proton will rectify this and prove to the consumer that they are serious to give us a quality malaysian made product. Added on January 14, 2008, 4:55 pm QUOTE(neb @ Jan 14 2008, 04:40 PM) I bet the final production cars will have non of the door strips, save cost and no quality issue. door strips should not be removed. it at least will try to prevent the doors getting "bullet holes" from parking beside inconsideration car owners.  i'll cry (if the car parked beside me is gone) or start scratching to whoever made "bullet holes" to my car door! Overall Proton Black Metal exterior looks good! Interior..i don't like the meter dash board...can't comment much. need to see the actual car This post has been edited by ghost321: Jan 14 2008, 04:58 PM |
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Jan 14 2008, 06:04 PM
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If u dont want, ask them to remove the lining when u order the car.
I plan to remove all the emblem except the proton logo. |
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Jan 14 2008, 06:11 PM
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QUOTE(Azuma-kun @ Jan 14 2008, 06:04 PM) If u dont want, ask them to remove the lining when u order the car. u must be proud of having that thundercat logo eh?? I plan to remove all the emblem except the proton logo. |
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Jan 14 2008, 06:12 PM
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I'm driving a Proton what. Not a Mitsu or Daihatsu.
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Jan 14 2008, 07:27 PM
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QUOTE(Azuma-kun @ Jan 14 2008, 06:04 PM) If u dont want, ask them to remove the lining when u order the car. Remove all to reduce drag and so u can add 'DVVT' to increase hp?? I plan to remove all the emblem except the proton logo. |
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Jan 14 2008, 08:07 PM
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QUOTE(SeaGates @ Jan 14 2008, 02:50 PM) That's kinda funny, I mean, it seems that all the new Saga I see have mis-aligned side strips. If it's a QC problem wouldn't it be restricted to a few cars, or at the worst case scenario, a few cars will have properly aligned strips? old news already.posted it earlier already but non of the lyn members seems to care. |
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Jan 14 2008, 08:20 PM
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QUOTE(Azuma-kun @ Jan 14 2008, 07:12 PM) I'm driving a Proton what. Not a Mitsu or Daihatsu. ya lo i know wira..... |
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Jan 14 2008, 08:38 PM
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QUOTE(Azuma-kun @ Jan 14 2008, 06:04 PM) If u dont want, ask them to remove the lining when u order the car. can paint whatI plan to remove all the emblem except the proton logo. Added on January 14, 2008, 8:40 pm QUOTE(squall_kay @ Jan 14 2008, 02:09 PM) myvi better than those swift?? of course.... Toyota QC mar! no kiddingThis post has been edited by soulfly: Jan 14 2008, 08:40 PM |
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Jan 14 2008, 09:43 PM
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Small matter only. So the side door moulding misalligned. Take it off la. Simple DIY to re allign it.
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Jan 14 2008, 10:05 PM
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so let me see, misaligned door strip can cause your brakes to fail?
or will it cause the power window to fail ======= but i bet if the door strip in a bmw is misaligned, everyone will say, wow a real different approach |
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Jan 14 2008, 10:10 PM
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QUOTE(kcng @ Jan 14 2008, 10:05 PM) so let me see, misaligned door strip can cause your brakes to fail? This is proton ma we talking about, they say got improvement but small alignment also cannot do properly how about other major stuff? Btw not bashing i book the car already or will it cause the power window to fail ======= but i bet if the door strip in a bmw is misaligned, everyone will say, wow a real different approach |
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Jan 14 2008, 10:17 PM
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Jan 14 2008, 08:38 PM) can paint what myvi is also better than jazz,dont forget that,dvvt=vtecAdded on January 14, 2008, 8:40 pm of course.... Toyota QC mar! no kidding |
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Jan 14 2008, 10:22 PM
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hahaha... i 2nd that.
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Jan 14 2008, 10:24 PM
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comparison between bmw and proton
how much u pay is how much u get |
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Jan 14 2008, 10:30 PM
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QUOTE(LPJ @ Jan 11 2008, 10:22 AM) I believe the pic was taken inside the proton shah alam plant. So whoever taken this picture and share it here with us is either Proton staff, or proton vendor. hmm this is very good of you to be standing on their side ...Talking of ethic, whoever taken this pic, either proton staff or vendor, shame on u, you have breach the trust given to you. Spy shoot outside the factory is one thing, but this photo is kind of showing there are ppl who do not respect the confidentiality that they are suppose to keep. That really make me sad........ and the whole point of a forum would be ... if u have it - share it ... if u dont have it, just wait and see la whats wrong is those pics ... if the pics cannot be leaked out ... i am sure he is being reprimanded already as we speak ... |
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Jan 14 2008, 10:32 PM
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What about this?
I think this one from the brochure    what do you think guys? ?This post has been edited by madstone: Jan 14 2008, 10:33 PM |
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Jan 14 2008, 10:37 PM
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QUOTE(madstone @ Jan 14 2008, 10:32 PM) What about this? what do u mean ????I think this one from the brochure what do you think guys? ? |
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Jan 14 2008, 10:37 PM
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"Appreciate the quiet and drive" <-- thats some "english" there......
The car looks good... but its small.. I guess its ok if its your first car when you're out working after graduation or u just need a second car for standby purposes. I like the way it looks This post has been edited by ydingo: Jan 14 2008, 10:39 PM |
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Jan 14 2008, 10:42 PM
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QUOTE(ydingo @ Jan 14 2008, 10:37 PM) "Appreciate the quiet and drive" <-- thats some "english" there...... Small ar??? The car looks good... but its small.. I guess its ok if its your first car when you're out working after graduation or u just need a second car for standby purposes. I like the way it looks then i tall person suffer lo? I get leg cramps when i drive my sister's savyProton SA ppl tell me its longer and bigger than the current iswara? Looking at the specs ya la its bigger than the iswara aeroback. This post has been edited by -storm-: Jan 14 2008, 10:46 PM |
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Jan 14 2008, 11:29 PM
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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Wow, it does look good. Hopefully, the interior quality is as good as its look. |
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Jan 14 2008, 11:37 PM
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jan 14 2008, 10:37 PM) what do u mean ???? I meant is, how's the new SAGA?One thing i hate Proton's car lately, it's steering look so hard, not looks so soft type of material like Savvy, Gen 2, Persona, the steering kinda the same type BUT i'm looking fwd to see the new SAGA in showroom hopefully it won't disappoint me the rear view look like mercedes, correct if i'm wrong |
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Jan 14 2008, 11:42 PM
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QUOTE(ghost321 @ Jan 14 2008, 02:13 PM) warning large display so that you can see clearly! woah..that bad...better p2 defect free even before launch... » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « so disappointed with Proton's QC.Added on January 14, 2008, 11:46 pm QUOTE(hazremi @ Jan 14 2008, 10:17 PM) myvi is also better than jazz,dont forget that,dvvt=vtec vtec...?old tech..old news...dvvt...NEW tech real news...This post has been edited by john_jenin: Jan 14 2008, 11:46 PM |
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Jan 15 2008, 12:17 AM
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Now, I wish to book the all new SAGA. Can I ask how is the booking process be done since I havent have the experience of booking a car and fear of being cheated by those sales person.
Some of my questions : 1) Is it better to book the new SAGA after the launch? I have seen all those real photo of the cars and I'm definitely confirmed want to buy 1 . I just scared that I will have to wait for a longer time if I dun book earlier. Any advice?2) Is the booking fee of RM500 refundable ? (Just as an assurance) 3) Do I have to go to different showroom to ask for a better deal? (I stay at Bukit Mertajam and there are a many PROTON EDAR showroom around - Juru Autocity, Bandar Perda, Megamall (beside it), Butterworth (Jelita Menawan). Does anyone has good buying experience from any of those or the one I didnt mention ? 4) Is the booking process is just fill in some personal information, then choose the spec,color that I want, then pay RM 500 and get the receipt as proof. Is it just that or am I missing something ? 5) Can somebody share your experience here? Thanks very very much. |
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Jan 15 2008, 12:50 AM
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How long you guys suppose the waiting period would be?
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Jan 15 2008, 01:22 AM
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QUOTE(ghost321 @ Jan 14 2008, 02:13 PM) warning large display so that you can see clearly! » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « so disappointed with Proton's QC. maybe proton still using this slogan "Quality tak apa, janji gaya mesti ada!!" |
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Jan 15 2008, 01:42 AM
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QUOTE(~\G.O.D/~ @ Jan 15 2008, 01:22 AM) maybe proton still using this slogan "Quality tak apa, janji gaya mesti ada!!" |
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QUOTE(hazremi @ Jan 14 2008, 10:17 PM) myvi is also better than jazz,dont forget that,dvvt=vtec I didn't know VTEC so lousy. |
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QUOTE(tslim2531 @ Jan 15 2008, 12:17 AM) Now, I wish to book the all new SAGA. Can I ask how is the booking process be done since I havent have the experience of booking a car and fear of being cheated by those sales person. Some of my questions : 1) Is it better to book the new SAGA after the launch? I have seen all those real photo of the cars and I'm definitely confirmed want to buy 1 . I just scared that I will have to wait for a longer time if I dun book earlier. Any advice?2) Is the booking fee of RM500 refundable ? (Just as an assurance) 3) Do I have to go to different showroom to ask for a better deal? (I stay at Bukit Mertajam and there are a many PROTON EDAR showroom around - Juru Autocity, Bandar Perda, Megamall (beside it), Butterworth (Jelita Menawan). Does anyone has good buying experience from any of those or the one I didnt mention ? 4) Is the booking process is just fill in some personal information, then choose the spec,color that I want, then pay RM 500 and get the receipt as proof. Is it just that or am I missing something ? 5) Can somebody share your experience here? Thanks very very much. QUOTE(zc_squash @ Jan 15 2008, 12:50 AM) How long you guys suppose the waiting period would be? My advice,don'k book Proton's car after launching IF u want it fast, better book before launching Proton's has been doing this for years promis promise & promise just imagine last month i heard my friend still didn't get his Persona after 6 month to make it worst, he changed 2 dealers already for NEW SAGA, it is advisable to wait at least the 3rd,4th or 5th batch get their car 1st & 2nd batch is people who order before launching 3rd, 4th & 5th batch is people who book after launching & willing to wait 6 to 9 months, even worst than that, may be 1 year It's better & easier to wait after a year or more BUT if u want to take the risk, be my guess I learned a lot how proton's work they didn't produce stock for the market they like to wait for market 1st, how many people ordered etc etc from there, they will produce stock & most of them in low QC lot of probs IF u want Proton's car with less prob, wait a year OR more read lot of news about new SAGA, their owner, probs so on & so forth read lot of review about SAGA before jumping into buying it (but sometimes Proton paid writers to write false statement about their car) listen what their new owner want to say about their car after a year join cars forum like MOTORTRADER & AUTOWORLD to keep track on SAGA performance & probs For the time being, while waiting, keep your money, top up your downpayment don't make loan repayment more than 7 years coz Proton's car can't survive 7 years Proton's old car like Wira & previous model can stay that long BUT not for models after that my brother in law WAJA Campro, got major probs last year, 7 years like my car, but major repair top up your downpayment & loan repayment below 7 years |
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Jan 15 2008, 06:28 AM
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itu semua kereta yg xlulus lah. of course proton takkan hantar showroom.
whoever took that photo, seems purposely trying to condemn proton. |
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Jan 15 2008, 07:44 AM
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Can you see the brochure clearly?
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Jan 15 2008, 08:46 AM
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QUOTE(-storm- @ Jan 14 2008, 10:42 PM) Small ar??? It is bigger "a bit" than savvy, and the headroom looks reasonable. then i tall person suffer lo? I get leg cramps when i drive my sister's savyProton SA ppl tell me its longer and bigger than the current iswara? Looking at the specs ya la its bigger than the iswara aeroback. Size is but a matter of human preference here |
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QUOTE(tslim2531 @ Jan 15 2008, 12:17 AM) Now, I wish to book the all new SAGA. Can I ask how is the booking process be done since I havent have the experience of booking a car and fear of being cheated by those sales person. 1)depend,if you want the car faster,book before launch,if u can wait,then wait after lunch but you need to wait longer to get the car.Some of my questions : 1) Is it better to book the new SAGA after the launch? I have seen all those real photo of the cars and I'm definitely confirmed want to buy 1 . I just scared that I will have to wait for a longer time if I dun book earlier. Any advice?2) Is the booking fee of RM500 refundable ? (Just as an assurance) 3) Do I have to go to different showroom to ask for a better deal? (I stay at Bukit Mertajam and there are a many PROTON EDAR showroom around - Juru Autocity, Bandar Perda, Megamall (beside it), Butterworth (Jelita Menawan). Does anyone has good buying experience from any of those or the one I didnt mention ? 4) Is the booking process is just fill in some personal information, then choose the spec,color that I want, then pay RM 500 and get the receipt as proof. Is it just that or am I missing something ? 5) Can somebody share your experience here? Thanks very very much. 2)Yes 3)Clarify this with your salesman,try to scout for best deals but mostly the same like accessories and tinted film. 4)Yes 5)Refer to 1-4 |
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QUOTE(-storm- @ Jan 14 2008, 10:42 PM) Small ar??? For me the current iswara 26999 also not enough leg room la~ i was suffering but thats my first driving car = Pront Old Saga for about 4-5 years. then i tall person suffer lo? I get leg cramps when i drive my sister's savyProton SA ppl tell me its longer and bigger than the current iswara? Looking at the specs ya la its bigger than the iswara aeroback. Now when i choose to buy a car, i always concern about leg room more that the car's performance. Waja is fine for me but MyVi still cannot satisfy my leg comfort level, finally i choose Persona ~ the only car that suitable to big and tall guy like me and also reasonable price for a young working boy ~  This post has been edited by Nel: Jan 15 2008, 09:25 AM |
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QUOTE(madstone @ Jan 15 2008, 03:45 AM) My advice, aiyo..don'k book Proton's car after launching IF u want it fast, better book before launching Proton's has been doing this for years promis promise & promise just imagine last month i heard my friend still didn't get his Persona after 6 month to make it worst, he changed 2 dealers already for NEW SAGA, it is advisable to wait at least the 3rd,4th or 5th batch get their car 1st & 2nd batch is people who order before launching 3rd, 4th & 5th batch is people who book after launching & willing to wait 6 to 9 months, even worst than that, may be 1 year It's better & easier to wait after a year or more BUT if u want to take the risk, be my guess I learned a lot how proton's work they didn't produce stock for the market they like to wait for market 1st, how many people ordered etc etc from there, they will produce stock & most of them in low QC lot of probs IF u want Proton's car with less prob, wait a year OR more read lot of news about new SAGA, their owner, probs so on & so forth read lot of review about SAGA before jumping into buying it (but sometimes Proton paid writers to write false statement about their car) listen what their new owner want to say about their car after a year join cars forum like MOTORTRADER & AUTOWORLD to keep track on SAGA performance & probs For the time being, while waiting, keep your money, top up your downpayment don't make loan repayment more than 7 years coz Proton's car can't survive 7 years Proton's old car like Wira & previous model can stay that long BUT not for models after that my brother in law WAJA Campro, got major probs last year, 7 years like my car, but major repair top up your downpayment & loan repayment below 7 years ask me ma.. i giv zhen wei ready stock.. |
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Jan 15 2008, 09:56 AM
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QUOTE(tiSSue_paPer @ Jan 15 2008, 09:30 AM) aiyo.. Sales Promoter always said this:ask me ma.. i giv zhen wei ready stock.. "READY STOCK!" "READY STOCK!" how come you have the stock ready when the car still dunno where actually? you yourself dunno whether proton allocate the stock to your shop or not? IF proton give to your shop, there's already 1000 customers waiting in list this is what you called READY STOCK? almost all car dealer said that; ready stock, ready stock BUT when pay booking fees, the misery starts AFTER 1 year, there's ready stock actually, real one This post has been edited by madstone: Jan 15 2008, 09:57 AM |
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Jan 15 2008, 10:52 AM
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i think the ready stocks are actually really. There are alot of Proton Black Metal in spyshot pictures under the hot sun or cool rain. I bet all of them has the mis-aligned door strips
I think if you remove it, maybe need to repaint because it use glue or some kinda of tape to stick it. well door strips only.. nobody cares. Added on January 15, 2008, 11:05 am » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « i agree. i was tempted to buy GEN2 when it first launch. Lucky I didn't after reading the bad experience the owners have with their cars. I booked MYVI instead before it launch. Made a smart choice. Their customer service and service center was good. I always go to the main service center in PG. (book 1 week in advance to avoid waiting) as for the new saga, it is quite attractive too with the design and the price range if i'm looking for a 1st car options. do some research about their customer service/service center around your area or wait for feedbacks. if you can't wait ..... is your choice.. This post has been edited by ghost321: Jan 15 2008, 11:05 AM |
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Jan 15 2008, 11:05 AM
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QUOTE(ghost321 @ Jan 15 2008, 10:52 AM) i think the ready stocks are actually really. There are alot of Proton Black Metal in spyshot pictures under the hot sun or cool rain. I bet all of them has the mis-aligned door strips if i..i do care..have to paint again what..rugi duit maaa I think if you remove it, maybe need to repaint because it use glue or some kinda of tape to stick it. well door strips only.. nobody cares. |
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Jan 15 2008, 11:07 AM
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QUOTE(squall_kay @ Jan 15 2008, 11:05 AM) if i..i do care..have to paint again what..rugi duit maaa then you might have the opportunity to test their customer service. see whether they re-align for you with some paint job for free or something. |
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Jan 15 2008, 11:20 AM
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hi everyone here...
thanks for those pm n sms me for booking n asking abt new BLM... the booking fee is Rm500, refundable .... n i will arrange u guys to test drive once the BLM come... if u dunwan the car after it launch.. the Rm500 is fully refundable.. but book now is better, cause the waiting period wil be quite long after it launch... the estimate period if booking now is 2 months... so, let me know ur name n number... mine is William 016-2068373... i will give u guys the best discount.... thanks!! |
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Jan 15 2008, 11:29 AM
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IF this is your FIRST CAR
YOU SHOULD READ THIS Like ghost321 said, Do some homework & research join car's forum for more info in car & of course, new car check the service centre & the customer service so far, proton service centre is among the worst still can't find good proton service centre (KIA i think no 1 worst because i'm using KIA Spectra)This post has been edited by madstone: Jan 15 2008, 11:30 AM |
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Jan 15 2008, 12:57 PM
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risking your money for BLM i guess is way more better than viva
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Jan 15 2008, 01:52 PM
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Service Center? why bother. find own mechanic lar better. my satria also send for the first 3 service only. but then again, new car need to send for the 5 year warranty.
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Jan 15 2008, 01:57 PM
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QUOTE(shah_ho_nam2 @ Jan 15 2008, 12:57 PM) risking your money for BLM i guess is way more better than viva I dun want to risk my money on car without seeing the car itselfQUOTE(kaizou @ Jan 15 2008, 01:52 PM) Service Center? why bother. find own mechanic lar better. my satria also send for the first 3 service only. but then again, new car need to send for the 5 year warranty. We're talking about first 3 service herethat's the main important thing |
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Jan 15 2008, 01:59 PM
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don't go to proton sc, go to eon sc better
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Jan 15 2008, 06:34 PM
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QUOTE(madstone @ Jan 15 2008, 01:57 PM) I dun want to risk my money on car without seeing the car itselfWe're talking about first 3 service here Yup..that's the main important thing Wanna test drive kaw kaw..see whether it can beat MyVi in terms of engine power o nt Hope the handling would be similiar to Savvy too..less than 1 week to go.. |
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Jan 15 2008, 07:14 PM
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Jan 15 2008, 02:59 PM) don't go to proton sc, go to eon sc better aik ada 2 kah??? |
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Jan 15 2008, 07:17 PM
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QUOTE(Notoriez @ Jan 15 2008, 07:34 PM) Yup.. Haha, wat less than one week.. minus today, just 2 days to go only nia.... Wanna test drive kaw kaw..see whether it can beat MyVi in terms of engine power o nt Hope the handling would be similiar to Savvy too..less than 1 week to go.. This post has been edited by chyz66: Jan 15 2008, 07:17 PM |
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Jan 15 2008, 07:56 PM
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performance sure new Saga better because the engine got more hp
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Jan 15 2008, 07:58 PM
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saw the new saga kick ass tv advertisement
looks so cool but reality sure very -.-" |
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Jan 15 2008, 09:41 PM
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Proton is good in upsetting future buyers, remember that.
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Jan 15 2008, 09:44 PM
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Proton sales and service center is just 200m away from my house
but..buying a proton...needs more than that.. Need a lot of luck! |
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Jan 15 2008, 09:50 PM
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buying car need luck
but .. buying proton.. needs full load of luck .. haha |
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Jan 15 2008, 10:43 PM
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QUOTE(madstone @ Jan 15 2008, 09:41 PM) Proton is good in upsetting future buyers, remember that. well..i dont hear soo much upset people since savvy,satria neo,persona...they will do fine this time too plus the car dealer summore the managing director do quite well of work i must say... |
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Jan 16 2008, 03:25 AM
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QUOTE(amirsubhi @ Jan 15 2008, 10:43 PM) well..i dont hear soo much upset people since savvy,satria neo,persona...they will do fine this time too i think so...at least la..bettr than tengku mahaleel's era..so, its quite good improvement..maybe in 5 years time, maybe proton can improve a lot..lets hopethe managing director do quite well of work i must say... |
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Jan 16 2008, 08:48 AM
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QUOTE(amirsubhi @ Jan 15 2008, 10:43 PM) well..i dont hear soo much upset people since savvy,satria neo,persona...they will do fine this time too second that,the problems that most people have here is more towards legacy problemthe managing director do quite well of work i must say... |
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Jan 16 2008, 10:05 AM
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QUOTE(hazremi @ Jan 16 2008, 08:48 AM) second that,the problems that most people have here is more towards legacy problem third that..... is there anyting as such? not many people are selling their used 'new generation' proton car, especially savvy.... heard that it has very good qc. |
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Jan 16 2008, 10:21 AM
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i think if u want to buy this saga,better wait till 3rd or 4th gen lar,better QC i think.as for me,i'm among the 1st gen of neo..so much problems..until now,over 1 year still got probs and at last,sick of going to s/c.i go repair myself outisde.easy and satisfying.u'll need tons of good luck to buy a 1st n 2nd gen of proton cars without any problems.
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Jan 16 2008, 10:27 AM
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THE "SAGA" CONTINUES.....sini spoil sana spoil =p
Im prepared to claim warranty already once i get the car haha, 1st thing will be the door strip. 2nd, i will keep u all posted This post has been edited by -storm-: Jan 16 2008, 10:27 AM |
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Jan 16 2008, 10:34 AM
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QUOTE(-storm- @ Jan 16 2008, 10:27 AM) THE "SAGA" CONTINUES.....sini spoil sana spoil =p Hahahaha..great ....hope to u see u posted it...kaka!Im prepared to claim warranty already once i get the car haha, 1st thing will be the door strip. 2nd, i will keep u all posted |
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Jan 16 2008, 10:38 AM
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jan 16 2008, 10:34 AM) Hahahaha..great ....hope to u see u posted it...kaka! Nway i think now proton customer service improve already la, i claim some warranty for my sis's savy on that day they fix and replace for me that thing, sensor thing if fix on your own money rm260 This post has been edited by -storm-: Jan 16 2008, 10:39 AM |
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Jan 16 2008, 10:50 AM
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if u really know what's the problem,and u can tell them directly what have to change to solve the problem,and they agree wif u,it's ok lar...coz it's free..if u just said god sound here got sound there smell here there....water comes in through here,there...they'll just change some parts and consider it done without testing.
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Jan 16 2008, 11:01 AM
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QUOTE(hope2see @ Jan 16 2008, 10:05 AM) third that..... is there anyting as such? Ahem not many people are selling their used 'new generation' proton car, especially savvy.... heard that it has very good qc. Savvy user here, banyak problem oh but all fix. Planning to sell already the savvy. Scare later more problems develop. |
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Jan 16 2008, 01:43 PM
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anyway guys,dont go to glenmarie service center,had very bad experience over there,i recommend COE
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Jan 16 2008, 01:44 PM
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QUOTE(hazremi @ Jan 16 2008, 01:43 PM) anyway guys,dont go to glenmarie service center,had very bad experience over there,i recommend COE Wheres COE? |
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Jan 16 2008, 02:57 PM
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QUOTE(zacevox @ Jan 15 2008, 07:56 PM) performance sure new Saga better because the engine got more hp no.... only Myvi is da best... DVVT power can eat Saga anytime. Toyota japan QC |
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Jan 16 2008, 02:58 PM
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Jan 16 2008, 02:57 PM) no.... only Myvi is da best... DVVT power can eat Saga anytime. Toyota japan QC yaya true true...TOYOTA rules |
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Jan 16 2008, 04:27 PM
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Haha, this saga no TUV(Technischer berwachungsverein) certified ??
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Jan 16 2008, 05:43 PM
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QUOTE(chyz66 @ Jan 16 2008, 04:27 PM) Haha, this saga no TUV(Technischer berwachungsverein) certified ?? izit right? at least savvy have TUV |
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Jan 16 2008, 06:06 PM
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QUOTE(Ultima @ Jan 16 2008, 02:58 PM) yaya true true... Zero One's VIOS rules!! TOYOTA rules |
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Jan 16 2008, 06:36 PM
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Just wait for SAGA to come out
wanna see what will they 'kelentong' again |
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Jan 16 2008, 06:45 PM
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QUOTE(nabelon @ Jan 11 2008, 03:35 PM) Proton is back on track..im so happy what do u care? |
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Jan 16 2008, 06:49 PM
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launching dis friday or sumting ya?
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Jan 16 2008, 07:08 PM
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QUOTE aunching dis friday or sumting ya? Yup, launching this friday. Just booked mine (solid white M-line) afternoon. The sales person says the overall nationwide booking have reached 10k units . Dunno how long have to wait.. he told me 2-3 months. He also says if I book after launch, he says dont even dream of getting your car in half a year . I ask whether the car already arrive, he says the car will only arrive at showroom thursday night where we can curi curi buka n tengok. He says the sales will gonna be twice of that of PERSONA. |
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Jan 16 2008, 07:32 PM
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I know it will take quite a time to get the BLM but 6 months is just too long. Maybe the SA just want people to book the car so he/she increase the wait time.
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Jan 16 2008, 07:35 PM
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QUOTE(am_eniey @ Jan 16 2008, 06:45 PM) what do u care? maybe because he buy proton shares |
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Jan 16 2008, 08:21 PM
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QUOTE(chyz66 @ Jan 16 2008, 04:27 PM) Haha, this saga no TUV(Technischer berwachungsverein) certified ?? My Proton friend didnt mentioned anything First batch Savvy and Satria GTi only has this certification.. I'll save enough downpayment first + see what problems before deciding to get this Saga or Myvi..If Saga, immediately i'll send it to a nice shop to pimp it up Added on January 16, 2008, 8:24 pm QUOTE(caviars @ Jan 16 2008, 07:32 PM) I know it will take quite a time to get the BLM but 6 months is just too long. Maybe the SA just want people to book the car so he/she increase the wait time. Every SA has their quota..so if he has already fulfilled his monthly quota, he puts you in for the next month quota..That's what happen to my friend last time..Book car early month but only gets the car middle of next month...ask him @ first he won't admit but only after getting the car he apologizes and tell us the truth This post has been edited by Notoriez: Jan 16 2008, 08:24 PM |
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Jan 16 2008, 08:41 PM
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QUOTE(Notoriez @ Jan 16 2008, 09:21 PM) First batch Savvy and Satria GTi only has this certification.. |
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Jan 16 2008, 10:05 PM
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QUOTE(madstone @ Jan 15 2008, 03:45 AM) My advice, changing dealer make suffer alot..... be patient lor...don'k book Proton's car after launching IF u want it fast, better book before launching Proton's has been doing this for years promis promise & promise just imagine last month i heard my friend still didn't get his Persona after 6 month to make it worst, he changed 2 dealers already for NEW SAGA, it is advisable to wait at least the 3rd,4th or 5th batch get their car 1st & 2nd batch is people who order before launching 3rd, 4th & 5th batch is people who book after launching & willing to wait 6 to 9 months, even worst than that, may be 1 year It's better & easier to wait after a year or more BUT if u want to take the risk, be my guess I learned a lot how proton's work they didn't produce stock for the market they like to wait for market 1st, how many people ordered etc etc from there, they will produce stock & most of them in low QC lot of probs IF u want Proton's car with less prob, wait a year OR more read lot of news about new SAGA, their owner, probs so on & so forth read lot of review about SAGA before jumping into buying it (but sometimes Proton paid writers to write false statement about their car) listen what their new owner want to say about their car after a year join cars forum like MOTORTRADER & AUTOWORLD to keep track on SAGA performance & probs For the time being, while waiting, keep your money, top up your downpayment don't make loan repayment more than 7 years coz Proton's car can't survive 7 years Proton's old car like Wira & previous model can stay that long BUT not for models after that my brother in law WAJA Campro, got major probs last year, 7 years like my car, but major repair top up your downpayment & loan repayment below 7 years |
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Jan 17 2008, 12:20 AM
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anybody know the detail of launching day?as in wat time will it be launched..cause i wan to book immediately after it launch
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Jan 17 2008, 01:15 AM
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QUOTE(ivanau88 @ Jan 17 2008, 12:20 AM) anybody know the detail of launching day?as in wat time will it be launched..cause i wan to book immediately after it launch reliable source said launch date and time is 18-jan 5:30pmproton already accepting booking since 1-jan-2008, up to 15-jan, 4909 people had already booked the new saga |
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Jan 17 2008, 01:16 AM
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4909 ppl ? walau ~ T_T
gila |
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Jan 17 2008, 02:08 AM
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proton sux interior as always... zzz
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Jan 17 2008, 07:34 AM
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This is gonna hit the Perodua Viva really hard, maybe even Myvi (1.3L also). The thing is, Proton may have to dump the Savvy into some other market like Jinhua Youngman of China, etc.
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Jan 17 2008, 08:26 AM
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QUOTE(gestapo @ Jan 17 2008, 02:08 AM) proton sux interior as always... zzz basher spotted!!! |
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Jan 17 2008, 08:48 AM
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I really like this new saga
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Jan 17 2008, 09:00 AM
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yea yea as always.. Even BMW 7 series interior quality oso loose to Viva one ok.. dont play play..
Nth can beat perodua's quality.. lol. |
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Jan 17 2008, 09:32 AM
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QUOTE(cham2020 @ Jan 17 2008, 08:48 AM) I really like this new saga woah, cantikhere is my photoshop rendition of it |
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Jan 17 2008, 09:47 AM
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QUOTE(chyz66 @ Jan 16 2008, 04:27 PM) Haha, this saga no TUV(Technischer berwachungsverein) certified ?? TUV could be extended from Savvy.QUOTE(gestapo @ Jan 17 2008, 02:08 AM) proton sux interior as always... zzz No. It is better than Benz as it has Lotus steering and TUV sticker taken from Savvy. Correct me if I'm wrong, Proton interior follow continental feel, so no cheap hard plastic too, only expensive continental plastic.QUOTE(m|ng @ Jan 17 2008, 09:00 AM) yea yea as always.. Even BMW 7 series interior quality oso loose to Viva one ok.. dont play play.. Wrong. Proton is following continental-like build with TUV certification sticker, it is BMW that will loose to Proton. Perodua is just cheap plastic. Even people in UK and Iran know this. Nth can beat perodua's quality.. lol. QUOTE(soulfly @ Jan 16 2008, 02:57 PM) no.... only Myvi is da best... DVVT power can eat Saga anytime. Toyota japan QC Correct. DVVT sticker can eat Saga anytime. But New Saga no idea as it has more sticker than the old one. Savvy 1.2L from KL to Singapore take 30min only, this new Saga 1.3L must be less than 30min.For 35k~40k, a car that has better quality than Benz & BMW, TUV cert, Lotus handling & steering, strong chasis, invincible power window because of using new scissor lift concept, powerful engine with IAFM (better than iVTEC, VVTi and DVVT), it will be the winner for years to come. Go buy!!! |
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Jan 17 2008, 10:32 AM
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QUOTE(dstl1128 @ Jan 17 2008, 09:47 AM) TUV could be extended from Savvy. Bro, u haven't seen the specs for this car yet? Its not built for power, acceleration 0-100 for manual 13.5s, for auto 14.5s - MyVi 0-60 in 11.3, that's for the manual, auto not sure. Top speed, Saga manual 160kph, auto 155kph. MyVi manual 169kph, auto not too sure. However, with the lotus tuning, and hopefully TUV (cos Savvy, Satria Neo & Persona were very successful in terms of comfort & engine reliability)and IFAM (built for effeciency), its a completely different thing from iVTEC, VVTi and DVVT, so u can't really say its better or worse. Its the CPS that's comparable to those, new wajas gonna get it. so how bad can the new saga be? i really can't wait to see the interior. should be quite confortable too methinks. if i like it, booking & DP on the spot!!!No. It is better than Benz as it has Lotus steering and TUV sticker taken from Savvy. Correct me if I'm wrong, Proton interior follow continental feel, so no cheap hard plastic too, only expensive continental plastic. Wrong. Proton is following continental-like build with TUV certification sticker, it is BMW that will loose to Proton. Perodua is just cheap plastic. Even people in UK and Iran know this. Correct. DVVT sticker can eat Saga anytime. But New Saga no idea as it has more sticker than the old one. Savvy 1.2L from KL to Singapore take 30min only, this new Saga 1.3L must be less than 30min. For 35k~40k, a car that has better quality than Benz & BMW, TUV cert, Lotus handling & steering, strong chasis, invincible power window because of using new scissor lift concept, powerful engine with IAFM (better than iVTEC, VVTi and DVVT), it will be the winner for years to come. Go buy!!! |
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Jan 17 2008, 10:57 AM
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You guys are arguing on the wrong point it seems (as always). Nice styling? Perfect interior? Excellent performance? All that for 30k price? Go dream lar.
The saga is positioned in the budget subcompact segment, and thus the main target audience is either family getting a second car for their teens just out of college, or families of the lower-income group. Thus the main priority is space , reliability and cost effectiveness. Space is evident from the design. The height, the generous rear head room, and the high fenders. Boot space not sure, but hope they don't retain Waja's stupid boot. Reliability remains to be tested. Proton's reputation on this is bad, but Persona seems to seen some improvement after Syed Zainal Abidin's tenure (and wiping up the shit left behind by the braindead crony Tun Mahaleel). And finally, cost effectiveness. This again remains to be seen, influenced by spare part price, reliability and fuel efficiency. The other factors are merely second rate, because they serve only to sweeten the deal. Anyway, the new saga has the variable intake system. Wonder how it performs? |
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Jan 17 2008, 11:12 AM
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QUOTE(dstl1128 @ Jan 17 2008, 09:47 AM) TUV could be extended from Savvy. Ahh...at the end tis must be about DVVT fanboyism i guess hehehe...No. It is better than Benz as it has Lotus steering and TUV sticker taken from Savvy. Correct me if I'm wrong, Proton interior follow continental feel, so no cheap hard plastic too, only expensive continental plastic. Wrong. Proton is following continental-like build with TUV certification sticker, it is BMW that will loose to Proton. Perodua is just cheap plastic. Even people in UK and Iran know this. Correct. DVVT sticker can eat Saga anytime. But New Saga no idea as it has more sticker than the old one. Savvy 1.2L from KL to Singapore take 30min only, this new Saga 1.3L must be less than 30min. For 35k~40k, a car that has better quality than Benz & BMW, TUV cert, Lotus handling & steering, strong chasis, invincible power window because of using new scissor lift concept, powerful engine with IAFM (better than iVTEC, VVTi and DVVT), it will be the winner for years to come. Go buy!!! |
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Jan 17 2008, 11:18 AM
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this car if compare to waja..new saga is longer and higher than the current waja but waja is slightly wider...i am so excited about this new car..i am gonna book it tmr...any comments mate?
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Jan 17 2008, 11:22 AM
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QUOTE(kcng @ Jan 17 2008, 09:32 AM) woah, cantik BTW that look sleek..guess many will do this kind of mod.. |
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Jan 17 2008, 11:23 AM
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QUOTE(ivanau88 @ Jan 17 2008, 11:18 AM) this car if compare to waja..new saga is longer and higher than the current waja but waja is slightly wider...i am so excited about this new car..i am gonna book it tmr...any comments mate? Are u sure its longer and higher than the waja? I find that hard to believe. As it is, the 1.6 engine is already having trouble powering the Waja. And this one's a 1.3. From the picture, it looks about the size of a Toyota Vios only. |
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Jan 17 2008, 11:26 AM
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We can say what we want..but in the end it's the numbers that matters...4K++ booking in two weeks?that's quite something..and please don't say Proton making up this figure...
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Jan 17 2008, 11:28 AM
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QUOTE(john_jenin @ Jan 17 2008, 11:26 AM) We can say what we want..but in the end it's the numbers that matters...4K++ booking in two weeks?that's quite something..and please don't say Proton making up this figure... When waja and gen2 first came out, they had similar booking numbers. Just a note. |
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Jan 17 2008, 11:35 AM
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QUOTE(soggie @ Jan 17 2008, 11:28 AM) When waja and gen2 first came out, they had similar booking numbers. Just a note. Yeah i guess that's might be true with past waja and gen2 but for current model like Persona the numbers of Persona i see on road does reflect the number of booking.. Agree or not? |
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Jan 17 2008, 11:41 AM
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QUOTE(john_jenin @ Jan 17 2008, 11:35 AM) Yeah i guess that's might be true with past waja and gen2 but for current model like Persona the numbers of Persona i see on road does reflect the number of booking.. Actually, i meant to say the number of bookings for Proton's cars are quite consistent, except for the Savvy which got pwned by Myvi thanks to its stupid advertising campaign. therefore the number of bookings does not reflect the quality of the car. I'm guessing sales numbers after the first year would be a better indicator? Agree or not? |
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Jan 17 2008, 12:00 PM
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QUOTE(soggie @ Jan 17 2008, 11:41 AM) Actually, i meant to say the number of bookings for Proton's cars are quite consistent, except for the Savvy which got pwned by Myvi thanks to its stupid advertising campaign. therefore the number of bookings does not reflect the quality of the car. I'm guessing sales numbers after the first year would be a better indicator? I can't remember what the savvy advrtising campaign was like, but did they hide it in a stupid black box like they did with this and the persona? if so, no wonder it got pawned by the MyVi. But i think it got pawned not cos of the advert though. Advert's got little to do with it. Its just the MyVi-Toyota/Daihatsu technology thing, makes it 'appear' more marketable that's all. Its got a slightly more marketable look as well, but personally i prefer the savvy. |
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Jan 17 2008, 12:04 PM
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hi everyone here... thanks for those pm n sms me for booking n asking abt new BLM... the booking fee is Rm500, refundable .... n i will arrange u guys to test drive once the BLM come... if u dunwan the car after it launch.. the Rm500 is fully refundable.. but book now is better, cause the waiting period wil be quite long after it launch... the estimate period if booking now is 2 months... so, let me know ur name n number... mine is William 016-2068373... i will give u guys the best discount.... thanks!! |
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Jan 17 2008, 12:29 PM
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Awesome!! dang the feeling..can't wait...better than before sex.
This car will be a hot stuff! |
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Jan 17 2008, 12:34 PM
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QUOTE(hypermount @ Jan 17 2008, 12:29 PM) Awesome!! dang the feeling..can't wait...better than before sex. You'd rather trade sex for an entry level subcompact Malaysian made car? Ja, I mean, i like the car, but i prefer...This car will be a hot stuff! |
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Jan 17 2008, 12:37 PM
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QUOTE(Suave @ Jan 17 2008, 12:00 PM) I can't remember what the savvy advrtising campaign was like, but did they hide it in a stupid black box like they did with this and the persona? if so, no wonder it got pawned by the MyVi. But i think it got pawned not cos of the advert though. Advert's got little to do with it. Its just the MyVi-Toyota/Daihatsu technology thing, makes it 'appear' more marketable that's all. Its got a slightly more marketable look as well, but personally i prefer the savvy. Myvi advertised itself with emphasis on the toyota-lineage, which translates to quality for the common folk. Plus the emphasis on driveability and practicability, with generous interior space and a comfortable drive, making it an instant hit for malaysian people because that is exactly what the majority wants.Savvy advertised itself as... first, TUV certified to repair the proton image, and then a stupid comic strip to show how tough the savvy is. And finally, focus on sporty features and the renault-gene from their recent win in F1 (which has nothing to do with their economy car engines), placing it to compete in the sport supermini segment which effectively guareentied its low sales. Not to mention that Myvi came out two months before Savvy did, and robbed away most of its potential customers. And not to mention Perodua's down-to-earth family-themed corporate image versus elitist-snubbish-arrogant Proton attitude... why support Proton when there is perodua? That's the common mentality I guess. Now Proton is doing what Perodua's doing... keep it low key, and let the industry players, press and word of mouth do the marketing. And finally, actually listening to consumer opinion for once. I don't support Proton. I support Syed Zainal Abidin. It's a turning point for Proton when Tun Mahaleel was ousted. |
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Jan 17 2008, 12:41 PM
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waiting for tommorow...... haiya.... cant wait already.....
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Jan 17 2008, 01:14 PM
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QUOTE(loon1983 @ Jan 17 2008, 12:04 PM) hi everyone here... you've been copying and pasting the same thing like over and over again?thanks for those pm n sms me for booking n asking abt new BLM... the booking fee is Rm500, refundable .... n i will arrange u guys to test drive once the BLM come... if u dunwan the car after it launch.. the Rm500 is fully refundable.. but book now is better, cause the waiting period wil be quite long after it launch... the estimate period if booking now is 2 months... so, let me know ur name n number... mine is William 016-2068373... i will give u guys the best discount.... thanks!! |
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Jan 17 2008, 01:30 PM
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he wanna promote kot~~
alot of sale thenhigh commision~~hehe |
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Jan 17 2008, 02:17 PM
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QUOTE(Suave @ Jan 17 2008, 11:23 AM) Are u sure its longer and higher than the waja? I find that hard to believe. As it is, the 1.6 engine is already having trouble powering the Waja. And this one's a 1.3. From the picture, it looks about the size of a Toyota Vios only. yup..is longer and higher if u compare the dimension from the new saga and the current waja's brochure |
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Jan 17 2008, 03:04 PM
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huge car wh small amount?
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Jan 17 2008, 03:06 PM
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look from behind like compressor c200.. Waaaa...
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Jan 17 2008, 04:24 PM
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Mr Tourist: Oh good lord man! Do you have your own custom built Mercedes in this country?
Taxi driver: No la sir, that is new saga only Joke aside, can't wait for tomorrow |
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Jan 17 2008, 04:51 PM
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some showroom probably can see tonite already....can't wait..
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Jan 17 2008, 05:03 PM
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Jan 17 2008, 04:24 PM) Mr Tourist: Oh good lord man! Do you have your own custom built Mercedes in this country? you should add some moreTaxi driver: No la sir, that is new saga only Joke aside, can't wait for tomorrow Mr Tourist: Oh good lord man! Do you have your own custom built Mercedes in this country? Taxi driver: No la sir, that is new saga only Mr Tourist: So a new saga begins Taxi driver: yeah sir, the saga continues |
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Jan 17 2008, 05:11 PM
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QUOTE(hazremi @ Jan 17 2008, 05:03 PM) you should add some more hahaha....this dialog can be added the next series of star wars!!!...would look funny!!!Mr Tourist: Oh good lord man! Do you have your own custom built Mercedes in this country? Taxi driver: No la sir, that is new saga only Mr Tourist: So a new saga begins Taxi driver: yeah sir, the saga continues |
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Jan 17 2008, 05:56 PM
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QUOTE(BeckhamSoccerTips @ Jan 17 2008, 04:51 PM) some showroom probably can see tonite already....can't wait.. where!!which showroom?i cannot wait d |
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Jan 17 2008, 07:06 PM
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QUOTE(soggie @ Jan 17 2008, 12:37 PM) Myvi advertised itself with emphasis on the toyota-lineage, which translates to quality for the common folk. Plus the emphasis on driveability and practicability, with generous interior space and a comfortable drive, making it an instant hit for malaysian people because that is exactly what the majority wants. yeah..this Syed Zainal is so far so good..bring back proton to lives...now i think, Tun Mahathir can get his answer why Pak Lah put Tun Mahaleel down...hope Syed Zainal can further improve Proton to a better state...so that we rakyat can afford a better car...n doesnt feel sooo bad becoz the the higher tax impose on foreign car...all the best proton...dont disappoint rakyat anymore.. Savvy advertised itself as... first, TUV certified to repair the proton image, and then a stupid comic strip to show how tough the savvy is. And finally, focus on sporty features and the renault-gene from their recent win in F1 (which has nothing to do with their economy car engines), placing it to compete in the sport supermini segment which effectively guareentied its low sales. Not to mention that Myvi came out two months before Savvy did, and robbed away most of its potential customers. And not to mention Perodua's down-to-earth family-themed corporate image versus elitist-snubbish-arrogant Proton attitude... why support Proton when there is perodua? That's the common mentality I guess. Now Proton is doing what Perodua's doing... keep it low key, and let the industry players, press and word of mouth do the marketing. And finally, actually listening to consumer opinion for once. I don't support Proton. I support Syed Zainal Abidin. It's a turning point for Proton when Tun Mahaleel was ousted. Added on January 17, 2008, 7:08 pm QUOTE(hazremi @ Jan 17 2008, 05:03 PM) you should add some more nice one bro.. Mr Tourist: Oh good lord man! Do you have your own custom built Mercedes in this country? Taxi driver: No la sir, that is new saga only Mr Tourist: So a new saga begins Taxi driver: yeah sir, the saga continues This post has been edited by squall_kay: Jan 18 2008, 07:25 AM |
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Jan 17 2008, 08:46 PM
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QUOTE(ivanau88 @ Jan 17 2008, 02:17 PM) yup..is longer and higher if u compare the dimension from the new saga and the current waja's brochure Hey bro, its only higher. Not longer or wider. Reference from EON website for Waja, advertisement handout provided by Proton Edar for BLM.Here's the dimensions: BLM: (L)x(W)x(H) = 4257 x 1680 x 1502mm Weight: 1065kg (M-Line auto) Waja: 4465 x 1740 x 1420 Weight: 1205kg (1.6 Auto) |
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Jan 18 2008, 12:58 AM
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According to an insider (which is my friend)..
You guys must be wondering why the New SAGA is cheap rite?? According to him that most of the parts comes from previous Proton models..Gen2, Neo and Savvy...that's why they managed to keep the cost very low..no need to manufacture new stuffs..just use their current models parts and mix it all up and shove it into the new Saga.. Nevertheless, i do really like this new Saga..can't wait to test drive it this coming weekend.. |
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Jan 18 2008, 01:18 AM
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That's better. Cheap spare part
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Jan 18 2008, 06:03 AM
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QUOTE(Notoriez @ Jan 18 2008, 12:58 AM) According to an insider (which is my friend).. That's very normal not only in the car industry but every other industry, lower your costs and make more profit, that's allYou guys must be wondering why the New SAGA is cheap rite?? According to him that most of the parts comes from previous Proton models..Gen2, Neo and Savvy...that's why they managed to keep the cost very low..no need to manufacture new stuffs..just use their current models parts and mix it all up and shove it into the new Saga.. Nevertheless, i do really like this new Saga..can't wait to test drive it this coming weekend.. |
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Jan 18 2008, 07:22 AM
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Gen-2 and Waja CPS on the way... should wait or go for BLM?
http://paultan.org/archives/2008/01/16/pro...n2-cps-spotted/ |
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Jan 18 2008, 07:28 AM
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QUOTE(kenji1903 @ Jan 18 2008, 07:22 AM) Gen-2 and Waja CPS on the way... should wait or go for BLM? fresh look from proton = blmhttp://paultan.org/archives/2008/01/16/pro...n2-cps-spotted/ more spacious n better car but old look with just engine improvement = gen2 cps n waja cps |
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Jan 18 2008, 08:36 AM
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Morning Guys!! On the way to work at 7.45 this morning, I saw all the Proton showrooms around my area have put up canopies already. Der automobile ist kommen!
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Jan 18 2008, 08:43 AM
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yea!!i am coming baby
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Jan 18 2008, 09:13 AM
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there are 2 saga blm at proton platinum showroom at mutiara damansara
feels like wanna go straight at the showroom instead of going to work... |
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Jan 18 2008, 09:19 AM
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Can't wait to see the car!
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Jan 18 2008, 09:26 AM
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i am going there to snake soon
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Jan 18 2008, 09:31 AM
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zzzz....i dont understand...till now...izzit so difficult for proton to make a automatic power window at rear doors??????
sigh..disappointed after see the interior...even though i quite impressed on the exterior look |
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Jan 18 2008, 09:38 AM
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the car is only RM30k-40k, additional power window will increase the production cost.
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Jan 18 2008, 09:56 AM
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Given with the normal proton power window problems..i rather have only 2 power windows up front
Gonna chiao frm work early today..want to see my 'future' wife |
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Jan 18 2008, 10:00 AM
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QUOTE(vampireffect @ Jan 18 2008, 09:31 AM) zzzz....i dont understand...till now...izzit so difficult for proton to make a automatic power window at rear doors?????? i dun mind actually, coz i dun open my rear windows mostly... besides, i rarely c cars opening their 4 windows at once... unless all of them r smoking in the car sigh..disappointed after see the interior...even though i quite impressed on the exterior look |
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Jan 18 2008, 10:24 AM
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I also don't prefer rear power window, less problem as proved by my humble 1.3 wira a/b. Actually I like the exterior but after owning wira 1.3, its time to migrate to higher model like persona or waja 1.6.
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Jan 18 2008, 10:46 AM
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QUOTE(vampireffect @ Jan 18 2008, 09:31 AM) zzzz....i dont understand...till now...izzit so difficult for proton to make a automatic power window at rear doors?????? Even the higher line also don't have rear power window?sigh..disappointed after see the interior...even though i quite impressed on the exterior look |
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Jan 18 2008, 10:50 AM
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Dont have i think. Base line car dont need those la.
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Jan 18 2008, 10:50 AM
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QUOTE(vampireffect @ Jan 18 2008, 09:31 AM) zzzz....i dont understand...till now...izzit so difficult for proton to make a automatic power window at rear doors?????? gen2,perdana,persona..all of them have power window at rear doors.sigh..disappointed after see the interior...even though i quite impressed on the exterior look you're disappointed?what to do,let us buy the cars ok? |
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Jan 18 2008, 11:28 AM
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gen2 cps bumper so nice ler... the whole front reminds me of impreza
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