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 CREDIT Card Thread v2, Everything about the world of plastic

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yks8845
post Apr 3 2008, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(siutimtim @ Apr 3 2008, 05:42 PM)
really ?? downgrade also cant ?

but now gold = classic lo... no different.. soon plat = gold = classic .. hahaha
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In fact, Some one who is current holding a gold card but with bad payment history ( high debt, not even make min payment ) , i think he / she not goin easier to get a new credit card aprroval ( even classic )... blush.gif
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post Apr 3 2008, 06:13 PM

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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Apr 3 2008, 10:32 AM)
Since talking about credit limit, I check my Citibank monthly statement. Seems like it has change:

Card Spending Limit (Had Kredit)  = (X) RM.....
Installment Loan Limit (Had Pinjaman Ansuran) = (Y) RM.....
Total Credit Limit (Jumlah Had Kredit)  = (X+Y) RM.....

So, which one is my true credit limit ? X or X+Y ?
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e.g. If I swipe a couple of flight tickets, my limit is X or X+Y ?
If I swipe a couple of Osim chairs and installment payment, is X+Y ?
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Anyone can answer the above ? rclxub.gif

Anyway, just got a tele-marketer call +60321704888. Here's roughly how it goes:

TM: Hi, can I speak to Mr. cute_boboi
CB: speaking
TM: Hiiii... I am calling on behalf of Citibank... on bla bla insurance coverage... may I know your age please ?
CB: If you are calling on behalf of Citibank, then you should have all my information.
TM: Oh no siiiir... we don't have the full info, only your name and h/p, as other information is P&C and Citibank does not release it out.
CB: In that case, why does Citibank release my name & h/p as I consider it P&C between Citibank and me ?
TM: ??? ... ? Anyway siiiir, we are offering an insurance bla bla bla..
CB: It's ok. I don't have any plans and budget to spend more on insurance right now.
TM: Oh... in that case, thank you siiir.
CB: Welcome.

*** The only thing I have with Citibank is Credit Card. mad.gif vmad.gif

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post Apr 3 2008, 06:17 PM

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QUOTE(candy_chl @ Apr 3 2008, 05:20 PM)
Wah....definitely i'm not trying RHB bank. How fast is the approval for HSBC? after being rejected by citi, i thought of trying with HSBC or UOB.

good credit record......i dun think i hav a bad one though.......citi rejected me likely due to my AI was only ~25K. i never had a credit card b4 except the one supplementary fr my parents which i only use for emergency. currently still having it.......but of course now already working, hoping to get my own card.

actually when applying credit card, if i disclose i hav a credit card without telling them is supplemetary.......wil my approval be fast as i ady 'had' a credit card?? can they find out that it's actually supplementary??
isn't it funny that one side agent dying to get customer to sign up for a cc.......and the other side CS rejecting client's applications just because they miss one call?? where is the company professionalism?? shakehead.gif

i know UOB doesn't call up the HR for verifications.....how bout HSBC?? do they call for verification as well?? if depending on my HR to pick up these calls.......i can just 4get about applying card fr banks like citi
my AI only ~25K can get gold card meh........somemore with 10K limit...... rclxub.gif
bad history due to a celcom bill..... rclxub.gif then definitely i'm a clean profile......dun even have any loan need to pay like PTPTN. does citibank requires cc applicant to hav at least work for 1 yr also?? i only worked for 9 mths ady.......some of my friends asked me to try again after 1 yr.......lol. sometimes really dun understand credit card company..........
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Candy ,

1) Application for credit card only required 18k income per annual, so , ur total income not goin to be reason of rejection. Many of my friend got their first credit card with income range 1.5k to 1.9k monthly

2) Ur supplement card helpess in application unless ur using principal card which issue more than a year..\

3) Mostly of bank will call applicant's company for job verification due to case like fake salary slip, job info,fake income and so on...It is a way Bank protect their own form risk. But i not sure Hsbc will call or not...

4) Worked for 3 month also can got a credit card, so, ur have been worked for 9 month should not be problem...

5) If u wish to reapply citibank credit card..u may try after 3- 6 month after ur rejection ....If not, they not even goin to process for u ( My cousin whom work in citibank told me)

6)i doubt your job type might affected your application as i knew some type of job were 'blacklist' by citibank...


Lastly, I still agree that maybe ur HR person miss a call from citibank..Anyway, U should try to apply other bank as other forumer said...don give up smile.gif

This post has been edited by yks8845: Apr 3 2008, 06:19 PM
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post Apr 3 2008, 06:26 PM

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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Apr 3 2008, 06:13 PM)
Anyone can answer the above ?  rclxub.gif

Anyway, just got a tele-marketer call +60321704888. Here's roughly how it goes:

TM: Hi, can I speak to Mr. cute_boboi
CB: speaking
TM: Hiiii... I am calling on behalf of Citibank... on bla bla insurance coverage... may I know your age please ?
CB: If you are calling on behalf of Citibank, then you should have all my information.
TM: Oh no siiiir... we don't have the full info, only your name and h/p, as other information is P&C and Citibank does not release it out.
CB: In that case, why does Citibank release my name & h/p as I consider it P&C between Citibank and me ?
TM: ??? ... ? Anyway siiiir, we are offering an insurance bla bla bla..
CB: It's ok. I don't have any plans and budget to spend more on insurance right now.
TM: Oh... in that case, thank you siiir.
CB: Welcome.

*** The only thing I have with Citibank is Credit Card.  mad.gif  vmad.gif
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Boboi, you are not the only person who experience it. I also own Citibank CC only and get the same telesales calling.
Guess not only Citibank sell our info, even other bank does that, eg. Maybank.
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QUOTE(cody99 @ Apr 3 2008, 06:26 PM)
Boboi, you are not the only person who experience it. I also own Citibank CC only and get the same telesales calling.
Guess not only Citibank sell our info, even other bank does that, eg. Maybank.
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me oso.. few mths after got my card fr maybank, this awek call me promo about membership + vacation + bla bla blaa.. what confused me was, this awek not really working for maybank.. but she has access to all my detail fr her pc while on conversation.. same happen after i got my DA cc.. how cud that happen eh??
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QUOTE(cody99 @ Apr 3 2008, 06:26 PM)
Boboi, you are not the only person who experience it. I also own Citibank CC only and get the same telesales calling.
Guess not only Citibank sell our info, even other bank does that, eg. Maybank.
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Based on the rough statistics... the most tele-sales I received are:
1) Citibank (at least once a month)
2) StanChart
3) HSBC (apply this week, next week got tele-marketer call) doh.gif

No offense to the names above, but that's the reality to me. My main usage of a/c and CC are Maybank, yet I receive very minimal marketing/calls from them. Maybe MBB is not aggressive...

The others are free hotel/hospital checkup tele-sales, not sure where they get the info.

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QUOTE(fikrie @ Apr 3 2008, 06:35 PM)
me oso.. few mths after got my card fr maybank, this awek call me promo about membership + vacation + bla bla blaa.. what confused me was, this awek not really working for maybank.. but she has access to all my detail fr her pc while on conversation.. same happen after i got my DA cc..  how cud that happen eh??
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what card you have with them? they target only high income group ?

y no one call me to promote membership or holiday or etc ?? blink.gif
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post Apr 3 2008, 07:53 PM

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Card Spending Limit (Had Kredit) = (X) RM.....
Installment Loan Limit (Had Pinjaman Ansuran) = (Y) RM.....
Total Credit Limit (Jumlah Had Kredit) = (X+Y) RM...

the most important is to know your X amount..this is the Limit of your retail credit......



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post Apr 3 2008, 09:31 PM

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just now got HSBC telemarketer called to promote a hospitalisation plan.

i made a mistake by saying im free to talks, he so "pro". and keep telling me the good of the plan. doh.gif

the plan which give will u "pocket" money which you are hospitalised.
and you will get refund every 3 years for 30% of your premium. the cheque will be send to your mailing address.

i wanna to reject, but he keeps talks and talks....
finally, he just wish me good luck.
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QUOTE(vin_ann @ Apr 3 2008, 09:31 PM)
i wanna to reject, but he keeps talks and talks....
finally, he just wish me good luck.
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That's a good one ! blush.gif Finally knew that the battle was fruitless, might as well give up and end the call gracefully.

Whenever I sense a telemarketeer calling (Usually starts with the question - "Are you free to talk?"), I'll ask for the person to state the reason of the call. He/she says this and that and I'll say "I'm not going to waste anyone's time here but I'm sorry I'm not interested in any of that - Thank you". Works everytime and I can't remember anyone saying anything else but "Sorry for disturbing you - thank you and good bye" tongue.gif

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QUOTE(hye @ Apr 3 2008, 09:51 PM)
That's a good one !  blush.gif Finally knew that the battle was fruitless, might as well give up and end the call gracefully.

Whenever I sense a telemarketeer calling (Usually starts with the question - "Are you free to talk?"), I'll ask for the person to state the reason of the call. He/she says this and that and I'll say "I'm not going to waste anyone's time here but I'm sorry I'm not interested in any of that - Thank you". Works everytime and I can't remember anyone saying anything else but "Sorry for disturbing you - thank you and good bye"  tongue.gif
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good words. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(candy_chl @ Apr 3 2008, 05:20 PM)

actually when applying credit card, if i disclose i hav a credit card without telling them is supplemetary.......wil my approval be fast as i ady 'had' a credit card?? can they find out that it's actually supplementary??
isn't it funny that one side agent dying to get customer to sign up for a cc.......and the other side CS rejecting client's applications just because they miss one call?? where is the company professionalism??  shakehead.gif
Yes, they will know it's a sup card. The number on the card shows it..
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QUOTE(neoxz @ Apr 3 2008, 10:41 PM)
Yes, they will know it's a sup card. The number on the card shows it..
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how to see it is sup or not ?
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I'm holding DA CC for few months and so far never get any call from Telemarketer tongue.gif
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QUOTE(siutimtim @ Apr 3 2008, 11:05 PM)
how to see it is sup or not ?
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i forgot how. Last time a friend of mine thought me. The sequence of the number shows that's its a sup
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no point hide your stuff with bank....

all bank will run check on you...how many cc/loan all can see one......

pointless punya kerja
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QUOTE(Shinichi @ Apr 3 2008, 11:11 PM)
I'm holding DA CC for few months and so far never get any call from Telemarketer tongue.gif
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it's juz a matter of time before the calling start coming in.. i wonder how u'd counter these calls.. hehe.. brows.gif
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QUOTE(babylabbit @ Apr 3 2008, 07:53 PM)
Card Spending Limit (Had Kredit)  = (X) RM.....
Installment Loan Limit (Had Pinjaman Ansuran) = (Y) RM.....
Total Credit Limit (Jumlah Had Kredit)  = (X+Y) RM...

the most important is to know your X amount..this is the Limit of your retail credit......
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Thanks for the info. That's what I think also, but I'm not 100% sure.
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Added on April 4, 2008, 9:53 am
QUOTE(babylabbit @ Apr 4 2008, 12:27 AM)
no point hide your stuff with bank....

all bank will run check on you...how many cc/loan all can see one......

pointless punya kerja
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Agree. You want to know how, spend 1 hr in Bank Negara, ask for a personal CCRIS check. It's free. They will print out the bank codes, loan amount, etc. and ask you whether you have loan/credit in x, y, z banks. This is for them to audit whether you have un-authorised cards/loans that you are not aware by looking at your facial and gesture.

After that, they will give you the few pages printout for your own reference. thumbup.gif Remember to bring your MyKad for verification purpose.

At the same time, you can bring all those RM1 coins and old/torn/half notes to exchange new ones.


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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Apr 4 2008, 09:48 AM)
Thanks for the info. That's what I think also, but I'm not 100% sure.
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Added on April 4, 2008, 9:53 am

Agree. You want to know how, spend 1 hr in Bank Negara, ask for a personal CCRIS check. It's free.  They will print out the bank codes, loan amount, etc. and ask you whether you have loan/credit in x, y, z banks. This is for them to audit whether you have un-authorised cards/loans that you are not aware by looking at your facial and gesture.

After that, they will give you the few pages printout for your own reference.  thumbup.gif  Remember to bring your MyKad for verification purpose.

At the same time, you can bring all those RM1 coins and old/torn/half notes to exchange new ones.
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HSBC will call office to verify?

p.s : my friend who is using uob credit card for many year and every year ask to increase credit they also reject.. so bad.. now so strict give credit ?
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just want to ask if i take cash on call advance from my credit card provider(Hong Leong)...let say i take RM1000 ...the RM1000 is deduct from my credit limit of the card or not?

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