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post Jan 9 2008, 09:20 AM

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QUOTE(BSE87 @ Jan 7 2008, 08:10 PM)
HI need some advice , i just finished my diploma and im starting ACCA classes tomorrow.Im studying FULL time. Im exempted  the first 4 papers so i start with F5. Anyways im planning to take 4 papers(F5-F8) for this coming June exam.  Im taking it in SEGI coll , im not sure if tehy have good lecturers for ACCA there.
Ok so my question is

1) Is it wise to take up to 4 papers per seating? (studying FULL time)

2) Is lecturer's notes enough to pass  ACCA exams?

ADVICE please!!
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take 3 papers 1st la...dont be so rush...i was like u too lastime...came out from tarc diploma....but i got exemption for 5 papers wo rclxm9.gif then came out rushing to take 4 papers 1 sitting...eventually screw up and stuck there cry.gif

F5 - i dono who is good...lastime got exemption rclxm9.gif
F6 - i think McO ms. wong paik wan is not bad la
F7- i recommend haneef@McO
F8- i recommend low chin ann@Kolej Bandar

QUOTE(carlosandy @ Jan 8 2008, 10:04 PM)
Small mistake only, why u so take it so serious?
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wei dont fight here...we are here to discuss...somemore ppl just request u to correct ur mistake...it seems u r the one who taking it so serious...cheers! smile.gif


Added on January 9, 2008, 9:22 amattended P4 1st class on monday. the paper itself is really hard. the whole class only 8 students sweat.gif sweat.gif guess not many students willing to choose this paper. but mr chan tze kang teached really good...have to work harder! smile.gif

This post has been edited by roy_pck: Jan 9 2008, 09:22 AM
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post Jan 9 2008, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(roy_pck @ Jan 9 2008, 09:20 AM)
wei dont fight here...we are here to discuss...somemore ppl just request u to correct ur mistake...it seems u r the one who taking it so serious...cheers! smile.gif.....
Ya, I agree, we just discuss only. If I make a mistake, then just ask me correct it and no need to come out some word look like so serious.
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post Jan 9 2008, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(carlosandy @ Jan 8 2008, 10:04 PM)
Small mistake only, why u so take it so serious?
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not that i want to take it seriously, but we are future professionals. our information must be accurate.. seriously, no offence.
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post Jan 9 2008, 07:54 PM

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not defending carlosandy here, but i think eventually you'll come to realize that our information need not be accurate. We just need to show due skill and care, and done in good faith. Errors like this won't be penalized. XD
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post Jan 9 2008, 08:40 PM

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QUOTE(babysept @ Jan 9 2008, 01:49 AM)
ello course mate, im soo agree wit u. =p
last sitting, really kills me..
and i really regret taking 4 papers at 1 goal..

anyway, think twice, 4 papers for 1 sitting, aint dat easy..
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i take 3 paper also feels very susah eledi~
if can, this time i think i take 2 is enuf eledi~

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post Jan 9 2008, 08:58 PM

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Have been reading yr comments on ACCA for some time. Most students appear to be asking about the quality of lecturers. Here's my 2 cents worth. No matter how brilliant, the lecturer is not sitting yr exam... you are and the key to success is hard work, perseverance, understanding of topic and last but not least, esp for papers which emphasize written rathen that numerical ability, good english. I hope that u don't write in yr exams like what u are writing here.

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post Jan 9 2008, 09:19 PM

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QUOTE(schuen @ Jan 6 2008, 08:45 PM)
Used to study ACCA in Sunway for a few sem. Sunway uses differentiation strategy : better study environment, longer tuition hours, lecturers ok, lots of prize winners produced, famous college, premier plus status, high passing rate etc & so, fees also expensive lor...

Prize winners will not feel expensive coz got money rewards kua I think...For those working students from big 4, especially PWC, EY & KPMG, no feelin of expensive kua coz sponsor by their co, need to bond however. Tat's why part time classes consist majority of these ppl who r very proud of themselves n they deserve to be proud lor.

Left only those who pay for the full fees, no sponsors, no rewards, not fr rich family n not earning high salary will feel the pain like me...so changed to ksa las sem. brows.gif 

However, need to clarify, Sunway is indeed a good tuition provider for ACCA if u dun compare the price lor.
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i also not study at sunway now already
too time consuming for working ppl like me hehe

looking for p1 and p2 notes anyone ?

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post Jan 9 2008, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(VpIc @ Jan 9 2008, 04:37 PM)
not that i want to take it seriously, but we are future professionals. our information must be accurate.. seriously, no offence.
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Then u just ask me to correct it lo!

I just provide small mistake information only and not give everything wrong.

Any way, I would like to say sorry for the small mistake information if u still want to take it so seriously.

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post Jan 9 2008, 11:46 PM

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QUOTE(roy_pck @ Jan 9 2008, 09:20 AM)

Added on January 9, 2008, 9:22 amattended P4 1st class on monday. the paper itself is really hard. the whole class only 8 students  sweat.gif  sweat.gif  guess not many students willing to choose this paper. but mr chan tze kang teached really good...have to work harder! smile.gif
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attended P4 @FTMS daniel ho, class is 20+ people..good teaching also..but of coz,the paper is challenging as he said thou...both to study and pass the paper.. nod.gif
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post Jan 10 2008, 12:34 AM

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anyone attend Joe Fang - F7 class last Friday, what had been taught in the class? how many students?
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post Jan 10 2008, 01:17 AM

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QUOTE(faradie @ Jan 9 2008, 08:58 PM)
Have been reading yr comments on ACCA for some time. Most students appear to be asking about the quality of lecturers. Here's my 2 cents worth. No matter how brilliant, the lecturer is not sitting yr exam... you are and the key to success is hard work, perseverance, understanding of topic and last but not least, esp for papers which emphasize written rathen that numerical ability, good english. I hope that u don't write in yr exams like what u are writing here.
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Wrong. Good lecturers is a basic ways to success. Without a good guidance from lecturer, we might take more time to learn. A good lecturer makes you success faster and easier. A bad lecturer also can give u success, but you've to take more time (resit).
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post Jan 10 2008, 01:27 AM

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QUOTE(keith_hjinhoh @ Jan 10 2008, 01:17 AM)
Wrong. Good lecturers is a basic ways to success. Without a good guidance from lecturer, we might take more time to learn. A good lecturer makes you success faster and easier. A bad lecturer also can give u success, but you've to take more time (resit).
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agree. a good lecturer is essential in guiding and helping you to pass. and most importantly he/she can turn a rather bored paper into an interesting one. that's why we are here to discuss which lecturers are good. smile.gif
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QUOTE(keith_hjinhoh @ Jan 10 2008, 01:17 AM)
Wrong. Good lecturers is a basic ways to success. Without a good guidance from lecturer, we might take more time to learn. A good lecturer makes you success faster and easier. A bad lecturer also can give u success, but you've to take more time (resit).
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I think their NOTES that help u pass !!

I recognise a prize winner, she never attend tuition class ! But, she managed to borrow from her friend Andrew Pang Notes to study & she won First in Malaysia.
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post Jan 10 2008, 09:44 AM

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QUOTE(keith_hjinhoh @ Jan 10 2008, 01:17 AM)
Wrong. Good lecturers is a basic ways to success. Without a good guidance from lecturer, we might take more time to learn. A good lecturer makes you success faster and easier. A bad lecturer also can give u success, but you've to take more time (resit).
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3 members replied to my post and I have randomly taken the first reply to take the issue a little further. This is the issue of written English. A good lecturer is not there or able to improve the quality of it. For a written paper like P3, you cannot pass the paper by memory work. Becuase we are dealing with factors which are inherently uncertain such as people and the weather which affect strategy, the examiner is looking at how you provide factual, logical arguments. No two answers will be the same. Therefore, coming to my point, you need to express yourself well and be able to have a good command of English. This is to help you understand the questions and express yourself well in your answers.
With due respect, there are many grammatical errors in the written replies of all 3 members who posted. The examiner is UK based and so is the Body, this is one major issue. How many Malaysian students fail their written papers due to poor English? Is a lecturer able to help you in your English? Afeter all, he is not there to teach you English.
I would be interested to know the pass rates of Malaysian and Singapore ACCA student members. Is this available?
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post Jan 10 2008, 09:55 AM

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Well, for starters, they are not that strict on the usage of english grammar because they understand that most of their students come from countries where English is not their mother tongue.
Therefore the main thing would be getting your points across clearly, and not that much on grammar correct-ness. . .

I would say that the paper is hard on its own, its pretty technical . . .

I'm taking P1 + P2 this sitting . . .while working in Ipoh .. =)
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post Jan 10 2008, 03:46 PM

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Guys , ACCA website has already TAKE OUT all Part 1 -3 (old syllabus) Pass years Papers !!

I need paper 3.4 !! I throw away all the book after I pass this paper. But, seems like it is relevanat wi P3.


Added on January 10, 2008, 4:01 pm
QUOTE(keith_hjinhoh @ Jan 10 2008, 01:17 AM)
Wrong. Good lecturers is a basic ways to success. Without a good guidance from lecturer, we might take more time to learn. A good lecturer makes you success faster and easier. A bad lecturer also can give u success, but you've to take more time (resit).
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QUOTE(roy_pck @ Jan 10 2008, 01:27 AM)
agree. a good lecturer is essential in guiding and helping you to pass. and most importantly he/she can turn a rather bored paper into an interesting one. that's why we are here to discuss which lecturers are good. smile.gif
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I tend to agree wit u guys !!
Good lecturers really helps a lot !! Just imagine reading 200 pages lecture notes VS 560 pages of Textbook ! How much time u can save by this !!
However, my MOM always said SELF STUDY is the best . (I don't agree wit her, & we start to argue... mad.gif She claim that TEXT BOOK is sufficient to pass. And because I am working, ACCA tuition is very far away & time constraint, I choose to self study , and I fail some of the papers.)


QUOTE(faradie @ Jan 10 2008, 09:44 AM)
3 members replied to my post and I have randomly taken the first reply to take the issue a little further. This is the issue of written English. A good lecturer is not there or able to improve the quality of it. For a written paper like P3, you cannot pass the paper by memory work. Becuase we are dealing with factors which are inherently uncertain such as people and the weather which affect strategy, the examiner is looking at how you provide factual, logical arguments. No two answers will be the same. Therefore, coming to my point, you need to express yourself well and be able to have a good command of English. This is to help you understand the questions and express yourself well in your answers.
With due respect, there are many grammatical errors in the written replies of all 3 members who posted. The examiner is UK based and so is the Body, this is one major issue. How many Malaysian students fail their written papers due to poor English? Is a lecturer able to help you in your English? Afeter all, he is not there to teach you English.
I would be interested to know the pass rates of Malaysian and Singapore ACCA student members. Is this available?
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YA, u are just like my mom !!

The problem here is the TEXTBOOK!! .Kaplan Textbook is so lenghty yet it is not in point form. Some of the points is repetitive. Some points are too short with not much explaination. Frankly, I don't like the textbook but I m using it ! I have no other sources ....

I heard BPP is better, but I only managed to get KAplan.

If we have a GOOD textbook, we don't need to attend lecture class.
Ya, for most people, attend class is the ONLY time that force us to study . tongue.gif

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QUOTE(Irresistible @ Jan 10 2008, 03:46 PM)
Guys , ACCA website has already TAKE OUT all Part 1 -3 (old syllabus) Pass years Papers !!

I need paper 3.4 !! I throw away all the book after I pass this paper. But, seems like it is relevanat wi P3.


Added on January 10, 2008, 4:01 pm
I tend to agree wit u guys !!
Good lecturers really helps a lot !! Just imagine reading 200 pages lecture notes VS 560 pages of Textbook ! How much time u can save by this !!
However, my MOM always said SELF STUDY is the best . (I don't agree wit her, & we start to argue... mad.gif She claim that TEXT BOOK is sufficient to pass. And because I am working, ACCA tuition is very far away & time constraint, I choose to self study , and I fail some of the papers.)
YA, u are just like my mom !!

The problem here is the TEXTBOOK!! .Kaplan Textbook is so lenghty yet it is not in point form. Some of the points is repetitive. Some points are too short with not much explaination. Frankly, I don't like the textbook but I m using it ! I have no other sources ....

I heard BPP is better, but I only managed to get KAplan.

If we have a GOOD textbook, we don't need to attend lecture class.
Ya, for most people, attend class is the ONLY time that force us to study . tongue.gif
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I hv 3.4 PY Q&A. Give me yr email n I'll send it to u - I'll even forgive u for calling me yr mom!
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post Jan 10 2008, 06:03 PM

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thx for advice every1. I think ill just go ahead with classes and see for myself if i can do the past years or not. ^^ If i can cope ill take 4 .

ALSO


Another thing is how do i check the exam dates? if possible ill try to take subs that have days inbetween for exams.

thx!

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post Jan 10 2008, 07:06 PM

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QUOTE(Irresistible @ Jan 10 2008, 03:46 PM)
Guys , ACCA website has already TAKE OUT all Part 1 -3 (old syllabus) Pass years Papers !!

I need paper 3.4 !! I throw away all the book after I pass this paper. But, seems like it is relevanat wi P3.


Added on January 10, 2008, 4:01 pm
I tend to agree wit u guys !!
Good lecturers really helps a lot !! Just imagine reading 200 pages lecture notes VS 560 pages of Textbook ! How much time u can save by this !!
However, my MOM always said SELF STUDY is the best . (I don't agree wit her, & we start to argue... mad.gif She claim that TEXT BOOK is sufficient to pass. And because I am working, ACCA tuition is very far away & time constraint, I choose to self study , and I fail some of the papers.)
YA, u are just like my mom !!

The problem here is the TEXTBOOK!! .Kaplan Textbook is so lenghty yet it is not in point form. Some of the points is repetitive. Some points are too short with not much explaination. Frankly, I don't like the textbook but I m using it ! I have no other sources ....

I heard BPP is better, but I only managed to get KAplan.

If we have a GOOD textbook, we don't need to attend lecture class.
Ya, for most people, attend class is the ONLY time that force us to study . tongue.gif
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the old syllabus exam papers still there la. kindly refer to HERE
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QUOTE(roy_pck @ Jan 10 2008, 07:06 PM)
the old syllabus exam papers still there la. kindly refer to HERE
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Thanks so much !! notworthy.gif

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