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carlosandy
post Jan 6 2008, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(schuen @ Jan 6 2008, 08:45 PM)
Used to study ACCA in Sunway for a few sem. Sunway uses differentiation strategy : better study environment, longer tuition hours, lecturers ok, lots of prize winners produced, famous college, premier plus status, high passing rate etc & so, fees also expensive lor...

Prize winners will not feel expensive coz got money rewards kua I think...For those working students from big 4, especially PWC, EY & KPMG, no feelin of expensive kua coz sponsor by their co, need to bond however. Tat's why part time classes consist majority of these ppl who r very proud of themselves n they deserve to be proud lor.

Left only those who pay for the full fees, no sponsors, no rewards, not fr rich family n not earning high salary will feel the pain like me...so changed to ksa las sem. brows.gif 

However, need to clarify, Sunway is indeed a good tuition provider for ACCA if u dun compare the price lor.
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Actually for me, the most important is to get better lecturer other than study environment.

Ya, I agree with u, Sunway uses differentiation strategy, provide better study environment and longer tuition hours. But all this for me is not important.

Talk about the prize winner and high passing rate for ACCA, actually a lot of them not just appear in Sunway list, but also appear in KSA/MCO list.

A lot of KL lecturer prepare a lot of study notes and teach very good exam technique, but for Sunway only few lecturer can do this. That's why a lot of Sunway student also come to KL for additional tuition.

Even we didn't compare the price, we also need to compare quality of lecturer. For eg, in the 3 core paper, Sunway only got good and famous lecturer in P2, but KSA/MCO can provide good lecturer in all 3 papers.
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QUOTE(carlosandy @ Jan 5 2008, 11:53 PM)
I think u better choose other lecturer since got KSA student complaint about his teaching method in P1 (P7 don't know).

Actually it is very high risk to take P7 since the KL 2 best audit lecturer Philip Woo and Sheila also stop teaching this paper. I also don't think Jackson Chan will be better than Philip Woo and Sheila in teaching audit paper.

You try some lecturer got better experience, may Fung Chee Kang (FTMS) lah!
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haha..ya wo..if Fung got teach,recommended to go leh... rclxms.gif
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post Jan 6 2008, 10:33 PM

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hahaha carlosandy very anti-sunway.
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QUOTE(ThanatosSwiftfire @ Jan 6 2008, 10:33 PM)
hahaha carlosandy very anti-sunway.
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not only that...anti mco and also aaron kwok.. laugh.gif brows.gif
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post Jan 6 2008, 10:46 PM

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lol, so generally if anti mco and sunway, that means he is a ksa supporter la.. XD must be KSA agent.
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post Jan 6 2008, 11:15 PM

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I need advice here,I'm going to take P2 and am normally a Sunway student.The problem is that I strongly dislike Menon's style of teaching since 2.5 with Sunway's signature overlong hours of classes (which I have little tolerance for) plus extra classes to finish the syllabus.Her style of teaching is like expecting 100% of the students are eager to get world prize, leaving less enthusiastic students (like me blush.gif ) with difficulty to cope.I am more comfortable with essay papers than calculation based papers.I really get frustrated every time I attend her class.It really made my life miserable studying that subject, took me 3 tries to finally pass the paper and also affected my focus on other papers.

However,she's admittedly well versed with her stuff and often praised as a good teacher.Should I take the safe way and continue learning P2 from her since my fundamental knowledge from 2.5 was from her (although my foundation is still quite shaky)?Or should give Joe Fang from KSA a try?I'm afraid I can't follow his lectures since I came from Menon's school of teaching.All I need is to know enough to pass this dreadful paper once and for all, help please notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(carlosandy @ Jan 6 2008, 09:58 PM)
Actually for me, the most important is to get better lecturer other than study environment.

Ya, I agree with u, Sunway uses differentiation strategy, provide better study environment and longer tuition hours. But all this for me is not important.

Talk about the prize winner and high passing rate for ACCA, actually a lot of them not just appear in Sunway list, but also appear in KSA/MCO list.

A lot of KL lecturer prepare a lot of study notes and teach very good exam technique, but for Sunway only few lecturer can do this. That's why a lot of Sunway student also come to KL for additional tuition.

Even we didn't compare the price, we also need to compare quality of lecturer. For eg, in the 3 core paper, Sunway only got good and famous lecturer in P2, but KSA/MCO can provide good lecturer in all 3 papers.
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ya , same here . most important is good lecturer !! study environment can come second .
the fees quite pain ...zzz


but now dun care 1st . only studying CAT , haha .



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post Jan 7 2008, 12:19 AM

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QUOTE(ThanatosSwiftfire @ Jan 6 2008, 10:46 PM)
lol, so generally if anti mco and sunway, that means he is a ksa supporter la.. XD must be KSA agent.
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Ha Ha Ha, I'm not KSA agent or supporter lah. But they truely provide good quality lecturer and acceptable tuition fees.

I also recommend some lecturer in MCO, FTMS or SEGi mah!

Ha Ha Ha, even I anti MCO, I also go for Sheila class in MCO ah!

I always said go to ACCA class follow lecturer, not follow college.

You can see from my recommendation list of lecturer, I also recommend some MCO lecturer wo!
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post Jan 7 2008, 01:14 AM

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QUOTE(Blackhart @ Jan 6 2008, 11:15 PM)
I need advice here,I'm going to take P2 and am normally a Sunway student.The problem is that I strongly dislike Menon's style of teaching since 2.5 with Sunway's signature overlong hours of classes (which I have little tolerance for) plus extra classes to finish the syllabus.Her style of teaching is like expecting 100% of the students are eager to get world prize, leaving less enthusiastic students (like me blush.gif ) with difficulty to cope.I am more comfortable with essay papers than calculation based papers.I really get frustrated every time I attend her class.It really made my life miserable studying that subject, took me 3 tries to finally pass the paper and also affected my focus on other papers.

However,she's admittedly well versed with her stuff and often praised as a good teacher.Should I take the safe way and continue learning P2 from her since my fundamental knowledge from 2.5 was from her (although my foundation is still quite shaky)?Or should give Joe Fang from KSA a try?I'm afraid I can't follow his lectures since I came from Menon's school of teaching.All I need is to know enough to pass this dreadful paper once and for all, help please notworthy.gif
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if you wish to switch to joe fang, try talking to him first. he may help you scrap past your paper.

confirmed that joe famg got class on the 10 Jan, 10am to 5pm
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post Jan 7 2008, 09:00 AM

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QUOTE(Blackhart @ Jan 6 2008, 11:15 PM)
I need advice here,I'm going to take P2 and am normally a Sunway student.The problem is that I strongly dislike Menon's style of teaching since 2.5 with Sunway's signature overlong hours of classes (which I have little tolerance for) plus extra classes to finish the syllabus.Her style of teaching is like expecting 100% of the students are eager to get world prize, leaving less enthusiastic students (like me blush.gif ) with difficulty to cope.I am more comfortable with essay papers than calculation based papers.I really get frustrated every time I attend her class.It really made my life miserable studying that subject, took me 3 tries to finally pass the paper and also affected my focus on other papers.

However,she's admittedly well versed with her stuff and often praised as a good teacher.Should I take the safe way and continue learning P2 from her since my fundamental knowledge from 2.5 was from her (although my foundation is still quite shaky)?Or should give Joe Fang from KSA a try?I'm afraid I can't follow his lectures since I came from Menon's school of teaching.All I need is to know enough to pass this dreadful paper once and for all, help please notworthy.gif
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You may be can try some lecturer in KL:

Joe Fang (KSA) - He got the very good technique in answer consol question, but the IFRS part is just ok ok only.

Keith Farmer (KSA) - He was very famous and experience lecturer in teaching this paper. According to his student, his notes and exam technique is very good. But I'm worry he can't finish the syllabus on time.

Haneef (Mc Orange) - He was very good in teaching IFRS, can give u very good fundamental and understanding in answer IFRS question. But for consol part, he is not so good, cos his technique in answer consol question too slow already. In his class, you will feel very boring. His tuition fees also expensive.

So, depend on what u expect in this paper. Difference lecturer got difference teaching style. You always must remember there is no perfect lecturer in any paper also.
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HI need some advice , i just finished my diploma and im starting ACCA classes tomorrow.Im studying FULL time. Im exempted the first 4 papers so i start with F5. Anyways im planning to take 4 papers(F5-F8) for this coming June exam. Im taking it in SEGI coll , im not sure if tehy have good lecturers for ACCA there.


Ok so my question is

1) Is it wise to take up to 4 papers per seating? (studying FULL time)

2) Is lecturer's notes enough to pass ACCA exams?



ADVICE please!!
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post Jan 7 2008, 08:29 PM

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QUOTE(BSE87 @ Jan 7 2008, 08:10 PM)
HI need some advice , i just finished my diploma and im starting ACCA classes tomorrow.Im studying FULL time. Im exempted  the first 4 papers so i start with F5. Anyways im planning to take 4 papers(F5-F8) for this coming June exam.  Im taking it in SEGI coll , im not sure if tehy have good lecturers for ACCA there.
Ok so my question is

1) Is it wise to take up to 4 papers per seating? (studying FULL time)

2) Is lecturer's notes enough to pass  ACCA exams?

ADVICE please!!
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If u think u can handle it, its OK to do so.

But seems that this is your first attempt, take 3 papers first la..

In most cases, lecturers notes is better than textbook.

but, seems I do not know see your Actual lecture notes, I can't comment further.
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QUOTE(BSE87 @ Jan 7 2008, 08:10 PM)
HI need some advice , i just finished my diploma and im starting ACCA classes tomorrow.Im studying FULL time. Im exempted  the first 4 papers so i start with F5. Anyways im planning to take 4 papers(F5-F8) for this coming June exam.  Im taking it in SEGI coll , im not sure if tehy have good lecturers for ACCA there.
Ok so my question is

1) Is it wise to take up to 4 papers per seating? (studying FULL time)

2) Is lecturer's notes enough to pass  ACCA exams?

ADVICE please!!
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i dun think is a good choice to take 4 paper together...
especially the audit paper + fm.
actually notes or text book usually is not enuf since all of us know ACCA exam always asking about current issue. Further more the tax act and FRS are change all the time...
so i suggest u dun rush to take all the paper,dun take the paper at 1 time.if possible, choose those paper that will not examine in consecutive day so u hv more time to study~
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post Jan 7 2008, 10:24 PM

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i agree. first semester to ACCA, i suggest u take either 2-3 papers only. don't too hasty and overconfident. really easy to screw up.
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it's not advisable. especially when f5, you need to master both theory and calculation. master any one, and you will fail the paper.
f6, the amount of things need to study is a lot. then include f7, which understanding of conso, published accounts, cash flow, ratio and ifra must be at fingertips in order to get comfortable marks. so i think 3 papers should be more then enough since this is your first sitting.
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post Jan 8 2008, 09:59 AM

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Take 3 better...easier to prepare..

and maybe u can consider seeking ACCA tuition in other college..get some famous lecturer who will provides good lecture note..

then u no need to refer much to the textbook..
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post Jan 8 2008, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(BSE87 @ Jan 7 2008, 08:10 PM)
HI need some advice , i just finished my diploma and im starting ACCA classes tomorrow.Im studying FULL time. Im exempted  the first 4 papers so i start with F5. Anyways im planning to take 4 papers(F5-F8) for this coming June exam.  Im taking it in SEGI coll , im not sure if tehy have good lecturers for ACCA there.
Ok so my question is

1) Is it wise to take up to 4 papers per seating? (studying FULL time)

2) Is lecturer's notes enough to pass  ACCA exams?

ADVICE please!!
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Actually it is depend on individual lah! Some people feel that can take 4 papers study full time, but some ppl thing it is difficult to take 4 papers.

F5 to F7 will involve a lot of calculation. You need to spend a lot of time to practice the calculation. Beside calculation, you also can't skip theory cos no more optional question in this paper. ACCA know, last time a lot of candidates try to skip question on more theory and gain marks from calculation, so under new syllabus they don't allow student skip theory question.

For F8 Audit & Assurance, this is a killer paper in fundamental level. A lot of student die in this paper since Alan Lewin become examiner. You need to understand a lot of audit procedures for this paper. If I'm not mistake, the passing rate for this paper last time was a lowest in Part 2.

So it is very depend on individual. But for me, it is very hard for me to take 4 paper together even study full time. So may be u try 3 paper first lah if u thing u can't do it.

For lecturer notes, if you attend the class where he/she can provide you with good lecturer notes and teach you step by step to answer past year question, it should be enough for you study for ACCA exam. Text book may be only use for other reference purpose when u can't understand from lecturer notes.

For SEGi College, I think it is not a good choice for you cos only left Kwai Fatt in SEGi currently. A lot of ex-SEGi very good lecturer like Sheila, Vikness, Hannef already went to other college. So currently beside Kwai Fatt, I'm not sure other SEGi lecturer good or not. May be u can try my recommendation lecturers in below lah:-


F5 - Andrew Pang (Kasturi)
F6 - Alan Yeow (Kasturi), Siva Nair (FTMS) , Choong Kwai Fatt (SEGi, IRC only)-if he teach
F7 - Keith Farmer (Kasturi), Joe Fang (Kasturi), Haneef (Mc Orange)
F8 - Philip Woo (Kasturi), Sheila (Mc Orange), Fung Chee Kang (FTMS)

This post has been edited by carlosandy: Jan 8 2008, 10:34 PM
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QUOTE(carlosandy @ Jan 8 2008, 10:08 AM)
Actually it is depend on individual lah! Some people feel that can take 4 papers study full time, but some ppl thing it is difficult to take 4 papers.

F5 to F7 will involve a lot of calculation. You need to spend a lot of time to practice the calculation. Beside calculation, you also can't skip theory cos no more optional question in this paper. ACCA know, last time a lot of candidates try to skip question on more theory and gain marks from calculation, so under new syllabus they don't allow student skip theory question.

For F8 Audit & Assurance, this is a killer paper in fundamental level. A lot of student die in this paper since Alan Lewin become examiner. You need to understand a lot of audit procedures for this paper. If I'm not mistake, the passing rate for this paper last time was a lowest in Part 2.

So it is very depend on individual. But for me, it is very hard for me to take 4 paper together even study full time. So may be u try 3 paper first lah if u thing u can't do it.

For lecturer notes, if you attend the class where he/she can provide you with good lecturer notes and teach you step by step to answer past year question, it should be enough for you study for ACCA exam. Text book may be only use for other reference purpose when u can't understand from lecturer notes.

For SEGi College, I think it is not a good choice for you cos only left Kwai Fatt in SEGi currently. A lot of ex-SEGi very good lecturer like Sheila, Vikness, Hannef already went to other college. So currently beside Kwai Fatt, I'm not sure other SEGi lecturer good or not. May be u can try my recommendation lecturers in below lah:-
F5 - Andrew Pang (Kasturi) , Chow Kim Tai (FTMS)
F6 - Alan Yeow (Kasturi), Siva Nair (FTMS) , Choong Kwai Fatt (SEGi, IRC only)
F7 - Keith Farmer (Kasturi), Joe Fang (Kasturi), Haneef (Mc Orange)
F8 - Philip Woo (Kasturi), Sheila (Mc Orange), Fung Chee Kang (FTMS)
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please update your information please?

Chow Kim Tai is not teaching in FTMS anymore. He is teaching in McOrange only for paper P5.

please do not recommend lecturers who are not teaching anymore. it's quite misleading.
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post Jan 8 2008, 10:04 PM

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QUOTE(VpIc @ Jan 8 2008, 09:38 PM)
please update your information please?

Chow Kim Tai is not teaching in FTMS anymore. He is teaching in McOrange only for paper P5.

please do not recommend lecturers who are not teaching anymore. it's quite misleading.
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Small mistake only, why u so take it so serious?
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QUOTE(scorpiok @ Jan 7 2008, 08:40 PM)
i dun think is a good choice to take 4 paper together...
especially the audit paper + fm.
actually notes or text book usually is not enuf since all of us know ACCA exam always asking about current issue. Further more  the tax act and FRS are change all the time...
so i suggest u dun rush to take all the paper,dun take the paper at 1 time.if possible, choose those paper that will not  examine in consecutive day so u hv more time to study~
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ello course mate, im soo agree wit u. =p
last sitting, really kills me..
and i really regret taking 4 papers at 1 goal..

anyway, think twice, 4 papers for 1 sitting, aint dat easy..

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