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 DNB and 2nd 5G network: needed or not?

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luqman98x
post Oct 18 2024, 08:03 PM

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QUOTE(Sam Leong @ Oct 18 2024, 01:26 PM)
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Actually DNB have SA live but for some reason we cannot register on it lol
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KV only it seems, no SA here in Kelantan after I returned from KV few days ago
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post Oct 19 2024, 04:15 PM

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Also 5G n28 DSS


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post Oct 21 2024, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(luqman98x @ Oct 18 2024, 08:03 PM)
KV only it seems, no SA here in Kelantan after I returned from KV few days ago
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From my test can also get it in JB
Will test ltr in Muar

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post Oct 21 2024, 04:31 PM

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Since they have 20x20 of B28/n28 can't they just do 15x15 for 5G and 5x5 for 4G? I assume no data transmission actually over B28 since it's just used as the anchor band.
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post Oct 25 2024, 08:47 AM

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QUOTE(luqman98x @ Oct 18 2024, 08:03 PM)
KV only it seems, no SA here in Kelantan after I returned from KV few days ago
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Now got SA signal in Kota Bharu... could be 5G SA launch is near?


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post Oct 25 2024, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(luqman98x @ Oct 25 2024, 08:47 AM)
Now got SA signal in Kota Bharu... could be 5G SA launch is near?
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Maybe? No way they enable SA at all tower just for "testing"?
There are too many China devices that doesn't support B28 which causes them cannot use 5G here , perhaps SA could save these devices

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QUOTE(Epic_winner091 @ Oct 21 2024, 04:31 PM)
Since they have 20x20 of B28/n28 can't they just do 15x15 for 5G and 5x5 for 4G? I assume no data transmission actually over B28 since it's just used as the anchor band.
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There are, ENDC is enabled means data is pulled from both B28 LTE and N78 NR
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QUOTE(Epic_winner091 @ Oct 21 2024, 04:31 PM)
Since they have 20x20 of B28/n28 can't they just do 15x15 for 5G and 5x5 for 4G? I assume no data transmission actually over B28 since it's just used as the anchor band.
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Most likely DNB proceed with DSS (Dynamic Spectrum Sharing), means that 20x20 is used by 4G/5G at same time
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post Oct 27 2024, 08:06 AM

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Pretty sure they are testing. I could register to the SA for one second and got rejected after that
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post Oct 27 2024, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(luqman98x @ Oct 25 2024, 08:47 AM)
Now got SA signal in Kota Bharu... could be 5G SA launch is near?
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First wave will be enterprise ppl or telco ppl.
And of coz, all telco are utilize same coverage...

That is y i said..y need 2nd network?
If thr is 2nd network... Sure many telco wont launch SA..
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QUOTE(Epic_winner091 @ Oct 21 2024, 04:31 PM)
Since they have 20x20 of B28/n28 can't they just do 15x15 for 5G and 5x5 for 4G? I assume no data transmission actually over B28 since it's just used as the anchor band.
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Their current plan is 10x10 is for 4g and anchor band
And 10x10 for 5g sa...

Anchor band has traffic... Dun simply say it is just anchor band...
If there is b28 but dun hv 3.5... user might see 5g still but it is b28 speed
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post Oct 27 2024, 11:14 AM

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Yes because 5g latency is so bad now even streaming services suffer
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post Oct 27 2024, 11:18 AM

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Long as it is not Huawei 5g, 5g in Malaysia will never progress
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QUOTE(sadlyfalways @ Oct 27 2024, 11:14 AM)
Yes because 5g latency is so bad now even streaming services suffer
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Exactly.. Not many understand why the latency is so terrible riding on DNB's lousy 5G network
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post Oct 28 2024, 12:40 AM

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As more people are exploiting the 5G Anchor Band (B28) for faster internet - the speed on the anchor band has slowed down significantly - in some cases using the standard 4G band will give you faster internet - especially true for smartphones.

People are exploiting this method because of many reasons, such as using 5G only quota in a cheap way (4G routers that support B28 are cheaper than 5G routers), modified routers, and more.

Some people might not live in an area with fibre coverage or might not be using fibre connection as it might not be suitable - hence such exploitation.

When connect to 5G NSA - the speed is around 200-300Mbps (still fast, but is already slower than what it used to be at around the same time!)
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QUOTE(prosibu @ Oct 27 2024, 11:11 AM)
Their current plan is 10x10 is for 4g and anchor band
And 10x10 for 5g sa...

Anchor band has traffic... Dun simply say it is just anchor band...
If there is b28 but dun hv 3.5... user might see 5g still but it is b28 speed
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On Samsung devices it shows up as "5G" within an unfilled box if you're connected solely to the anchor band.
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post Oct 31 2024, 07:55 AM

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As expected, DNB 5G speed has began to slow down as more people using. Those Ookla and OpenSignal numbers of a brand new network is not sustainable from Day 1. Meant for marketing to con public.

https://www.thestar.com.my/tech/tech-news/2...e-gotten-slower

TS saying how great is DNB 5G vs 4G merely to compare a new network with low user in beginning and usage vs a decade old LTE network with majority users and heavy usage. And also compare how great is new unloaded Malaysia 5G vs other countries that launched for many years. It is unfair and biased comparison to start with when other countries 5G penetration is significantly higher as it was launched much earlier.

TS claimed Telco took longer to accomplish the coverage DNB needs merely 3 years to accomplish but forgot to mention Telco also need to cover inbuilding but DNB until today has limited indoor 5G coverage. Also TS didnt stipulate about the spectrum used by DNB which is L700 (that will show 5G icon despite not 5G) with telco LTE bands that requires more sites for similar coverage- also non equal comparison. DNB likely faking the 5G coverage % by using L700 that has better penetration.

MCMC is the one setting regulation to monitor coverage and ensuring coverage everywhere, if MCMC makes it mandatory for good coverage KPI within 3 years, they should regulate and enforce it. Not to mention MCMC been getting contribution from telcos from revenue to cover rural area but yet still not optimum coverage, where the money goes?

DNB and Ericsson both have been contributing alot of marketing costs to suspiciously promote Msia 5G in advertisement board everywhere, events and research firms as well as award winning ceremony for ministers to promote Msia Single Wholesale Network model.

Having a second network will be able to challenge DNB self proclaimed success and provide an equivalent comparison with DNB. Competition drives the industry not paid advertisement, tweaked stats and biased comparison.

Furthermore it is not public money to have second network, DNB using Rakyat money and government owning DNB unnecessarily. Gov shall not involve into business …

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post Nov 1 2024, 08:06 PM

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U Mobile to build Malaysia’s Second 5G network.
https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...ond-5g-network/
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QUOTE(YoungMan @ Nov 1 2024, 08:06 PM)
U Mobile to build Malaysia’s Second 5G network.
https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...ond-5g-network/
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My house still having very poor U Mobile 4G coverage now. Hopefully U Mobile will consider to add more sites than its existing infrastructure
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QUOTE(YoungMan @ Nov 1 2024, 08:06 PM)
U Mobile to build Malaysia’s Second 5G network.
https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...ond-5g-network/
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Lol i realy, really thought its maxis that would get that contract since they're the one that pushing hard from joining dnb last time. Mever thought it'll be umobile instead.

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