QUOTE(p4n6 @ Aug 17 2024, 08:26 AM)
#1 UMobile replaces Digi in the price war in 4G arena which create competition to bring price down, even Maxis also has to follow as they losing customers back then.
#2 If not mistaken, it took telco 3 years to 70% during 4G era. However telco 70% includes inbuilding, DNB only outdoor. Can google for data. Also DNB is MCMC brainchild, whatever announce by DNB need not fact check by MCMC, if DNB announce 90% tomorrow, who can say they are wrong? And MCMC enjoys the marketing they did a good job. So the pop coverage is merely smokescreen for marketing purpose.
#3 I think DNB 5G solution prevented telco to make use of their own LTE bands (combine with the 5G NSA) to deliver higher speed and to reduce congestion. DNB 5G is not scalable as they have limited LTE spectrum to complement the 5G spectrum. Most operators globally doing these except Msia cause of the single wholesale network model. So DNB 5G will hit dead end in near future.
#5 Maybe you stay rural, 5G speed is not like when it first launch always 400Mbps, now i hardly see 100Mbps at my area. Sometimes data stalled and i have to manually turn off 5G. 5G is fast in early stage cause not many people using it, now more people, it becoming crappy day by day. So all the marketing about 5G good speed vs 4G is merely cause no one was using it in the beginning - so and if DNB cant scale by adding more spectrum, it will be another 4G or even worse.
That is why with all the sugarcoated Single Wholesale Network idea while no one in the world doing it, already know is bad idea. But government back then maybe something happened behind, they took the risk and now is in big mess. DNB 5G can be delivered fast but not sustainable… in the end Msians have to pay more.
So far I still can get 1gbps at some area at KL old klang road and USJ taipan. It is just too much ppl using the 5G tower that serving u. Of coz every tower must achieve certain speed to pass the verification. DNB should add more 5G sites for those congestion, not ask for 2nd 5G network, it will spur the user to two parts (like current maxis full of spectrum but less users and half of the users at celcomdigi but only get 33% of LTE spectrum)
QUOTE(p4n6 @ Aug 18 2024, 11:32 AM)
1. New tech can offer more cost efficient per GB, so 5G is better than 4G is no doubt. 2G > 3G > 4G > 5G cost per GB reduction is within expectation. Having say that YES 5G giving 1TB is merely a marketing stunt as unless you tether and torrent, not possible to consume up that much for today usage. To calculate shall based on price per actual consumption, which may differ for everyone. In short 5G can bring down the data cost for consumer, whether is DNB or telco own built it will still gonna happen with telco own competition among each others. Existence of DNB is redundant, bad part about DNB is government needs to fork out money which means using people money to do it when telco willing to pay for it.
2. LTE population coverage of Malaysia blended
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1051191...ation-coverage/DNB is under purview of MCMC, a gov entity itself, and gov also own 30% or DNB (previously 100%), DNB is formed by Finance Ministry and Communication Ministry and did not use third party audit on the population coverage measurement. There is a conflict of interest. For telco coverage on 2/3/4G, MCMC audit them so give a more fair assessment.
You are right i have no proof but it is questionable as i am typing this dense urban area place, there is no 5G.
3. I did my own reading and some chatgpt, no matter how i calculate 200Mhz with the LTE 40Mhz low band, DNB will max out to serve 6 operators. In 5G NSA model, the 700Mhz is DNB major achiles heel, that will congest first and cause issue of using 5G before the actual 200Mhz 5G band. While SA may be the solution but it seems quite abit of negative reviews from country currently running, you may not like this but i will say my source is google.
4. You seem to dwelve into the marketing campaign that say Malaysia 5G is fastest, kinda naive, do note that when DNB first launch, only YES the smallest telco in Msia is offering service with a few thousand customers maybe or less. The entire network is used by few people, when they do speed test, it will be really fast as compared to other countries which already launch 5G for years with more significant number of users. The less the adoption of 5G, the faster the speed will be. So the comparison with others merely show we have less users not really fastest. You need to observe much longer trend … i think 2025 perhaps will be a fairer bit comparison i.e. 2025 Msia speed vs 2023 of other countries speed.
5. I think is wrong for you to keep comparing current 4G speed which has more subs but older tech compare to 5G with 5G today in Malaysia with less customers and less devices (cheap 5G phones like <RM1000 quite little still). This is also same for my point in #4, where other countries launch 5G longer and have more 5G subs in their network and therefore their average speed came down due to higher adoption. This is true as Msia 5G speed is slowing down after 2 years of launch and it will go lower and match with rest of the world once adoption pick up.
i duno what you mean by 200mhz of sub6 and 40mhz of LTE anchor band will congest... it is not logic at all, it should depends on how the operator to deploy the site, eg china mobile may only occupy 100mhz for sub 6 but they still can serve their 700m subs in china. The more sites will effect total subs per site reduced (this is all depend on DNB willing to add site or no).
For 4G, telco dun wan to add site due to cost issue, example, digi only have 3 sites at taipan with limited spectrum but they just dun wan to add site, but after celcomdigi, they consolidated celcom sites to share within celcomdigi subs, this make the subs per site reduced and improved speed.
but question is DNB willing to do or no...and for sure splitting the 40m subs to two network will make this worsen as both of the network lack of budget to do so...(can see from celcomdigi vs celcom and digi)
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