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 Radeon HD 3870 and HD 3850 On The Horizon, The Dark Side is POWERFUL . come join

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post Dec 5 2007, 07:06 PM

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QUOTE(irenic @ Dec 5 2007, 04:46 AM)
enuff the bs.. i have 8800gt and 3870.. in terms of speed during playing game, using fraps, 3870 has lower fps, but without fraps, i dun think i can notice it..

image quality, 3870 manage to produce sharper n brighter color, i dunno how to describe it, but those who manage to compare both, plz do so before jump into any conclusion that the difference is small..

the different is noticeable.. definitely.. i like playing games, i want to have as many fps i want, eventhough between 30fps and 34fps we human may not notice it.. but i absolutely like image quality on the 3870.. when i return coolice's 3870 last time, i felt disappointed with image quality on my 8800gt ..

so since i want both speed and quality, i bought 3870 crossfire.. nuff said..
both card got their own advantage.. it's u to decide which iis more important to u, speed or quality..
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It's probably just a different gamma curve. That can be fixed in like 5 minutes. Especially with the dx10 cards, MS controls the spec very tightly, so there should be almost no visible difference to the real image quality comparing the cards in the same mode.
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QUOTE(nagflar @ Dec 5 2007, 07:01 PM)
dont need 3870 . even x1900 xt enough to notice the diffrent on IQ>

still wander why ppl dint see it ?? sweat.gif
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i used to own x1950xt and when i changed to 88gts i didnt notice a difference in IQ, how's that?? tongue.gif

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post Dec 5 2007, 07:14 PM

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well for ppl who have use 2 diffrent card both ATI and Nvidia . should able to notice diffrent of the IQ . this is maybe small diffrent for some 1 but it may also a significant for some one . it depend

well i am not expert to make any statment here. but the true is out there . lol biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(ikanayam @ Dec 5 2007, 07:06 PM)
It's probably just a different gamma curve. That can be fixed in like 5 minutes. Especially with the dx10 cards, MS controls the spec very tightly, so there should be almost no visible difference to the real image quality comparing the cards in the same mode.
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Exactly why i'm always surprised where there's lots of ppl claiming that ATI produce better IQ when the truth is both card's IQ are too similar to call either of them superior. Technically nvidia 8800 series produce better IQ in games but the difference is very much negligible. wink.gif
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post Dec 5 2007, 07:33 PM

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no more argue . let the read the review

http://www.pureoverclock.com/review.php?id=647&page=1

final word form the reveiw


Final Words


With the recent introduction of the Geforce 8 series, NVIDIA are finally able to offer cards worthy of consideration to those who deem image quality as paramount. Gone are the heavy driver optimisation; gone is hardware limited angle depedant anisotropic filtering; gone is a lack of support for HDR+AA. Since the 8600 launch a few weeks ago, there is little reason to go for a 7 series card unless you find a very good second hand bargain. But it must be said, in terms of image quality NVIDIA have done nothing more than catch up with ATI, and perhapos just nudge ahead a little (G80 AF quality can be better in some cases).

ATI's X1000 series are still a great choice as they lack none of the image quality features you would expect in 2007, you have HDR+AA support and HQAF. The only thing lacking is DX10 support

Speaking of DX10, we are no more than a week away from it's launch. With rumours of 24x AA (not full MSAA), who knows what sort of image quality advantage it may have over G80, my guess is probably very little, but we'll be sure to take a look in the next few weeks and update this article with R600.


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QUOTE(nagflar @ Dec 5 2007, 06:33 AM)
no more argue . let the read the review

http://www.pureoverclock.com/review.php?id=647&page=1

final word form the reveiw
Final Words


With the recent introduction of the Geforce 8 series, NVIDIA are finally able to offer cards worthy of consideration to those who deem image quality as paramount. Gone are the heavy driver optimisation; gone is hardware limited angle depedant anisotropic filtering; gone is a lack of support for HDR+AA. Since the 8600 launch a few weeks ago, there is little reason to go for a 7 series card unless you find a very good second hand bargain. But it must be said, in terms of image quality NVIDIA have done nothing more than catch up with ATI, and perhapos just nudge ahead a little (G80 AF quality can be better in some cases).

ATI's X1000 series are still a great choice as they lack none of the image quality features you would expect in 2007, you have HDR+AA support and HQAF. The only thing lacking is DX10 support

Speaking of DX10, we are no more than a week away from it's launch. With rumours of 24x AA (not full MSAA), who knows what sort of image quality advantage it may have over G80, my guess is probably very little, but we'll be sure to take a look in the next few weeks and update this article with R600.

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Exactly correct. The G80 still has the best AF algorithm, even vs R600. So where is this "superior" image quality you were talking about.

edit: i like how you highlight the first part of the sentence... the 2nd part is just as important laugh.gif

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read the full reveiw . b4 any comment .

if still got arguement . i have nothing to say .
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QUOTE(nagflar @ Dec 5 2007, 06:44 AM)
read the full reveiw . b4 any comment .

if still got arguement . i have nothing to say .
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You notice how the review supports what i have been saying. So you're basically shooting your own argument down. I really hope you're not in any debate team.
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hmm.gif, guess i'm not using 8800GTX when comparing with HD2900XT doh.gif laugh.gif

hmm.gif, there's one i want to ask... what about this? mouse-over 16x AF (ATi) and 16x AF (G80), did you notice anything? looks like, ATi's image crispier than nVidia icon_idea.gif

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well then u tell at last

which 1 have better IQ .

ATI OR Nvidia ?

sry i am bit noobie to read review .
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QUOTE(nagflar @ Dec 5 2007, 06:52 AM)
well then u tell at last

which 1 have better IQ .

ATI OR Nvidia ? 

sry i am bit noobie to read review .
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I think i have made my point clearly enough. I'm not here to teach reading comprehension.
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hmm.gif, guess i'm not using 8800GTX when comparing with HD2900XT doh.gif laugh.gif

hmm.gif, there's one i want to ask... what about this? mouse-over 16x AF (ATi) and 16x AF (G80), did you notice anything? looks like, ATi's image crispier than nVidia icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Dec 5 2007, 08:01 PM)
hmm.gif, guess i'm not using 8800GTX when comparing with HD2900XT doh.gif laugh.gif

hmm.gif, there's one i want to ask... what about this? mouse-over 16x AF (ATi) and 16x AF (G80), did you notice anything? looks like, ATi's image crispier than nVidia icon_idea.gif
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it looks ati hv better IQ then nvidia...

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QUOTE(arjuna_mfna @ Dec 5 2007, 08:24 PM)
it looks ati hv better IQ then nvidia...
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maybe for u . but some ppl still dint see it .or they refuse to see it ?? wink.gif
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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Dec 5 2007, 07:51 PM)
hmm.gif, guess i'm not using 8800GTX when comparing with HD2900XT doh.gif laugh.gif

hmm.gif, there's one i want to ask... what about this? mouse-over 16x AF (ATi) and 16x AF (G80), did you notice anything? looks like, ATi's image crispier than nVidia icon_idea.gif
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Your texture problem in BF2 dah settle belom? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(arjuna_mfna @ Dec 5 2007, 07:24 AM)
it looks ati hv better IQ then nvidia...
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QUOTE(nagflar @ Dec 5 2007, 07:38 AM)
maybe for u . but some ppl still dint see it .or they refuse to see it ?? wink.gif
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Just looks like gamma differences, as i have been saying. I guess some people just can't comprehend after all.
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Just wonder which one better 1950xtx vs 3870 in terms of DirectX 9.0 game? Do you guys know?
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QUOTE(ahsiah @ Dec 5 2007, 09:14 PM)
Just wonder which one better 1950xtx vs 3870 in terms of DirectX 9.0 game? Do you guys know?
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http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3151&p=9
It looks like the HD3850 rules on top vs previous generation cards.

As for the IQ, it's pretty much the same after all since G80. Did ATI build better filter in R6xx? Not quite.
http://www.beyond3d.com/content/reviews/47
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I'm just wondering, is it very significant diff between the 3850 256MB VS 512MB in term of performance and future game support? I understand for higher resolution, the 512MB will be better, but let said I'll only kept it under 1440*900?
Beside, using a 19" wide screen shouldn't be able to set higher resolution, will the 256MB version good enough for gaming?
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QUOTE(redbull_y2k @ Dec 5 2007, 08:42 PM)
Your texture problem in BF2 dah settle belom?  hmm.gif
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no, not yet... still got black spots no matter with Catalyst 7.11 or previous one... sad.gif, currently, i have to use "Low" quality, seems working, even though, a bit cacat with low quality setting sad.gif doh.gif

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