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post Oct 22 2007, 06:26 PM, updated 18y ago

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According to the post at Tomshardware.com rumors about RV670 being a Radeon HD 3000 series is correct. Tomshardware even posted a picture and other various web sites reported specifications about the upcoming Radeon HD 3850 and HD 3870 cards, based on RV670Pro and RV670XT GPU's.

According to the info RV670, or HD 3850 will end up clocked at 700MHz for the GPU and 1800MHz for memory. It will support DirectX 10.1 and PCI Express 2.0. High performance HD 3870 based on the RV670XT will end up clocked at 825MHz for the GPU and 2400MHz for the memory. According to the picture, HD 3870 will need a dual slot cooling solution. Same as the HD 3850, it supports DirectX 10.1 and PCI-Express 2.0. Both GPU's are made in 55nm manufacturing process and comes with UVD.

These are the long rumored additions to the ATI line to go up against Nvidia's best.

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post Oct 25 2007, 02:46 PM

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GT is out already. why ATI alway late one . alway let nvidia lead ...
this start even form 9800XT. aiya ATI make haste.
business is who fast who get the market 1st ...

sigh...

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post Oct 25 2007, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(Spawnster @ Oct 25 2007, 02:50 PM)
huh...so late...by then most ppl will grab 8800gt
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Nvidia really good . not only at the tecnology of the GC. but also in markeing strategy .
ATi should really learn form Nvidia.
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post Oct 28 2007, 11:31 AM

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wise step. but now all rush to buy 8800GT . maybe in their mind already the GT will out perform the upcomming ATI GC.....

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post Oct 28 2007, 09:34 PM

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and dont forget too. the 8800GT not support direct X 10.1 . and the upcomming ATI is support both DX 10.1 and PCI 2.0

good news. hehe smile.gif

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post Nov 1 2007, 08:24 PM

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With Nvidia's GeForce 8800 GT out the door and benchmarked, the big question is whether AMD's upcoming RV670-based Radeon HD 3800 graphics processors will have what it takes to compete. Specifications for the Radeons have leaked out already, and it seems like the fastest model (nicknamed "Gladiator") will run at 825MHz with 512MB of 1200MHz GDDR4 memory. That tells us little about real-world performance, but Fudzilla claims to already know how the new Radeon will perform, and says AMD will lose to Nvidia. Quite badly so. For the "Gladiator" Radeon HD 3800, Fudzilla quotes performance 8-10% lower than that of the GeForce 8800 GT.

Fudzilla says AMD will use lower prices to nab sales away from Nvidia. As it did with the Radeon HD 2600 and 2400 series, AMD will apparently undercut Nvidia, this time by around $30-50. The Radeon HD 3800 may therefore be priced under the $200 mark when it launches on November 15.


taken form some review site
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post Nov 1 2007, 08:48 PM

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QUOTE(likito @ Nov 1 2007, 08:27 PM)
8800GT  can score 13xxx on 3dmark06
3800 8-10% lower than 8800gt
simple calculation , HD3800 score 11930+- (13000*9%) on 3dmark06
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yes almost like that .biggrin.gif

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post Nov 12 2007, 08:53 PM

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http://www.tcmagazine.com/comments.php?id=16730&catid=2

Radeon 3870 Euro 249
Radeon 3850 Euro 199
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post Nov 13 2007, 09:03 PM

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http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/553390

some already sell it on lyn
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post Nov 13 2007, 09:19 PM

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lol . we should thanks to ATI for giving us cheaper card with decents performance . if ATI dint push out new series , the nvidia still continuce selling 8800gts for over 1.2k . GT not even released .
and we still have to pay over 1k for a good GC .

thanks ATI or AMD lol notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

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post Nov 13 2007, 09:43 PM

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really hope the ATI will out perform Nvidia this time . although i already own a GT lol smile.gif
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post Nov 15 2007, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(kianweic @ Nov 15 2007, 09:01 AM)
I was really hoping that this card would have whoop 8800GT back to the stone age eventhrough I owned a Geforce 8800GT.

This is because I don't want to see another Nvidia as a monopoly like say Microsoft. Giving the monopolistic power will only cause the consumer to suffer.

The reason being there are not any laws in Malaysia to promote fair competition therefore there won't be any antitrust case. Malaysia loves monopolistic behaviour in all aspect be it private sector or non-private sector. Only one party always suffer = the consumer/customer/people.
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agree . totoaly agree with your monopoly view. like streamyx , astro monopoly in Malaysia . services is sux and expensive but what to do , they monopoly the markeyt

we should thanks ATI for the new series card . with this card Nvidia come out a decents performance card below 1k . or else we still have to pay over 1k for the same class GC. like the GTS series .

bit dissapoint with the HD 3800 seires but there have major improvement from x2900 series . Good job .

say NO to monopoly biggrin.gif

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post Nov 15 2007, 04:55 PM

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Here's what's really interesting, on average the Radeon HD 3870 offers around 85% of the performance of the 8800 GT, and if we assume that you can purchase an 8800 GT 512MB at $250, the 3870 manages to do so at 87% of the price of the 8800 GT. The Radeon HD 3870 becomes even more attractive the more expensive the 8800 GT is and the opposite is true the cheaper it gets; if the 8800 GT 512MB was available at $219, then the 3870 doesn't stand a chance.

If AMD can actually meet its price expectations then it looks like the 3870 is actually competitive. It's slower than the 8800 GT, but the price compensates.


this take out form some review
so i dont think ATI 3800 series already lose in this battle.

when i buy a GC i will for perfomance and price .
so which 1 is most value for money we still dint know yet smile.gif

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post Dec 1 2007, 09:03 PM

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QUOTE(vearn27 @ Dec 1 2007, 08:54 PM)
Guys... I'll be getting a gfx soon in 2~3 weeks time... At first, the Nvidia's 8800GT and 8800GTS on my mind at the moment, I wonder if actually the Ati 3870 HD will outperform the Nvidia's? unsure.gif

I only opting for single card operation and not going for CF smile.gif
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single card 8800GT is out perform HD3870 . but for CF HD 3870 is better then 8800GT.

but if u want better 3d image quality ATI alway better then Nvidia . if u dont mind few FPS behind compare to Nvidia
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my X1900xtx the quality of 3D rendering image still beter then my 8800GT . @@

anyway just my personal opinion . biggrin.gif


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post Dec 1 2007, 09:30 PM

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QUOTE(vearn27 @ Dec 1 2007, 09:23 PM)
Oh, single card wise 8800GT will outperform the HD3870 but it will be vice versa if it is 8800GT SLi vs HD3870 CF?

Would the performance differ significant or wouldn't be to visible? How about the power consumption? I read from Irenic that even HD3870 CF wouldn't as much as single 8800GT? Or he mean not as much as 8800GT SLi? blink.gif

However, most lately games all optimized for Nvidia's sad.gif
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well i just amatuer acuatly . let the expert answer your question biggrin.gif
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post Dec 4 2007, 08:01 PM

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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Dec 4 2007, 06:42 PM)
IMO... ATi vs nVidia in terms of performance... nVidia wins, in terms of image quality, ATi... seriously...

about gameplay... ATi tries keep maintaining good image quality (IQ), unlike nVidia tried keep good gameplay frame rate... actually, it's unnoticeable until you tried both ATi and nVidia...
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agree. try both ati x1900 find out the image quality is better then nvidia even 8800GT @@.

what games : coounter strike : source . lol

ATI FTW
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post Dec 5 2007, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(clayclws @ Dec 5 2007, 11:25 AM)
Hmm...Image quality...something I haven't really notice. Read about it in TomsHardware and GameSpot last time, but that was during the GeForceFX era where all the NVIDIA cards really do suck. I tweak my brightness, colours, etc. as I do intensive graphics presentation, and this may come as a very welcomed boon for me...if I do not need to tweak much while using ATI, but I seriously doubt that.

Been NVIDIA user since GeForce 256 (that's the first GeForce), and thinking of going ATI since my motherboard supports Crossfire instead of SLI (and CFx scales better than SLI - HD3870 not only performs better than 8800GT, it is cheaper too - source: TomsHardware & AnandTech). The cheaper part...well, got to wait till supply is more than demand as HD3870 shouldn't have cost more than RM800. If it still maintains the same cost even after PCFair and 8800GTS NDA, I'm going to stick with NVIDIA...


Added on December 5, 2007, 11:26 amOh yeah, it seems to be R680 instead of RV680 as it is AMD.ATI's flagship product.
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guess u not serious gameser : dont just fansy with the benchamark score ..

not really notice the diffrent . lol / even a low end games like Counter Strike : Source . can notice the diffrent .

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post Dec 5 2007, 12:14 PM

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dont need high end card . even x1900 series is better thenn 8800 GT @@. in term of IQ.


pls no nvidia fans boy here .

need proof just grap 2 of the card i mention and run a simple games CS: Sources.

for those say cant notice the diffrent . it maybe they buy card for benchmarking only not for games smile.gif

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post Dec 5 2007, 12:49 PM

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sry if i say any fans boy thing .

every 1 have their own standard or leverl of IQ . my maybe not same as him .. etc .

so whther Nvidia or AIT is both ok for IQ . just stay with what u like most .
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QUOTE(clayclws @ Dec 5 2007, 03:45 PM)
Wow, you notice the image quality difference while gaming? What did you do? Snap every frame, sit back and admire the pictures? Really, image quality comparison may be made within games but how much difference can you notice while gaming? You must be paranoid to really take notice. I play games to relax and enjoy...I want the game to run smooth and beautiful, and not bragging about how much better my image is compared to NVIDIA's. If you notice it while using graphic intensive programs, movie editting or watching...then it'll really be worthwhile to note because they hamper your enjoyment. How would a less jagged fence on your screen make any difference in your pursuit of enjoyment while playing CoH?
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aiyo . shoot me for wat . like i say diffrent ppl diffrent of standard and lvl of IQ . for me i can notice diffrent . not me only many ppl notice aslo .

if enjoy nvidia go ahead , no harm . me and other notice we chose ATI . no harm also . this is free world what .

sry if my this post and previos offense to some1 . just point out some of my view only .

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