already been so long NVs killed Image quality.

u really need to keep up with times.... seriously.

i have to agree with sniper69, keep up in time? my previous card were HD26 and now the 88GTS, despite performance difference, i notice quite some significant difference in IQ in desktop apps / movies playback and gaming. Everything got dull once i got the 88GTS. ATi wins NV hands down in IQ ever since the 9xxx series.

about 6-7 years nvdia user since geforce 2/4
after upgrade to 9800 series i dun perasan apa2
after i upgrade to 6600gt
sudenly eh...ati more cantik gambar
in every aspect
windows desktop
game
muvee(abit only)

If it's just colors, you can adjust that quite easily.

AFAIK not only colors quality itself. ATi got better noise reduction on HD Movie playback, better de-interlacing on DVD playback Image represent all too much to explain zzz... I got both HD2900XT & 8600GTS u can easily noticed their difference.

This post has been edited by zeustronic: Dec 5 2007, 08:51 AM

Hmm...Image quality...something I haven't really notice. Read about it in TomsHardware and GameSpot last time, but that was during the GeForceFX era where all the NVIDIA cards really do suck. I tweak my brightness, colours, etc. as I do intensive graphics presentation, and this may come as a very welcomed boon for me...if I do not need to tweak much while using ATI, but I seriously doubt that.

Been NVIDIA user since GeForce 256 (that's the first GeForce), and thinking of going ATI since my motherboard supports Crossfire instead of SLI (and CFx scales better than SLI - HD3870 not only performs better than 8800GT, it is cheaper too - source: TomsHardware & AnandTech). The cheaper part...well, got to wait till supply is more than demand as HD3870 shouldn't have cost more than RM800. If it still maintains the same cost even after PCFair and 8800GTS NDA, I'm going to stick with NVIDIA...

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Added on December 5, 2007, 11:26 amOh yeah, it seems to be R680 instead of RV680 as it is AMD.ATI's flagship product.

This post has been edited by clayclws: Dec 5 2007, 11:26 AM

guess u not serious gameser : dont just fansy with the benchamark score ..

not really notice the diffrent . lol / even a low end games like Counter Strike : Source . can notice the diffrent .

.....

This post has been edited by nagflar: Dec 5 2007, 11:33 AM

so you've got yourself a hd 2900xt and a powerful psu that cost you a bomb that supports it, and then suddenly you think you gotta reduce your power consumption. You fork another 1k for a card with not such a noticable performance increase as an upgrade?

In the end of the day you find yourself sitting in front of a com with not so noticeable upgrades which cost you 1k without mentioning an overkill PSU and an hd2900xt collection dust in the corner.

Don't get me wrong, the 88gt is GOOD certainly for 1st time buyers but i don't consider it as an upgrade option at all for hd2900xt users, just my 2 cents.


But you are comparing a 8600 with an 2900XT which is not on the same tier. But i do appreciate if you can tell us more about the differences.

Image quality of Nvidia cards has improve tremendously after the 8 series, imho it's not a wise choice to use conclusion of 6/7series of Nvidia cards vs ATI x18/x19 series card and bring the conclusion forward to apply on the 8 series vs hd29/hd38 series.

yeah...i've read since the 8800GTX, the IQ is very much improved. hmm...wonder why there's still differences in the IQ thingy? any picture comparison? heheh...someone care enough to capture a screen shot or something. any place i can read regarding the IQ?

with the GT's new purevideo2 or something doesnt it makes some possitive differences?

This post has been edited by SpikeTwo: Dec 5 2007, 12:20 PM

dont need high end card . even x1900 series is better thenn 8800 GT @@. in term of IQ.


pls no nvidia fans boy here .

need proof just grap 2 of the card i mention and run a simple games CS: Sources.

for those say cant notice the diffrent . it maybe they buy card for benchmarking only not for games

This post has been edited by nagflar: Dec 5 2007, 12:16 PM

who's the fanboy now?

btw, wrong...if you pay that much attention on games, i doubt you are actually gaming. in games, especially shooters. we need enough framerates to move, aim and shoot smoothly. and high FPS cards give just that. so it is a pure gaming card.

If one was to pay extra attention towards graphical quality most of the time, he/she is not a pure gamer. one is more suited in graphic designs or movies.

benchmarking? benchmarkers should go CF for ATI cards since they scale better in benchmarking softwares so i read.

Anyways, I'm not that into IQ, because my last Nvidia was TI4200 years ago, then I got a 9600xt then this x1900xt. that's why i wasn't sure about the IQ since I've changed completely everything, like monitor which gives a huge impact too.

edit: reference added.
this might be old, but something to ponder.
http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/ati_nv...ust06/page3.asp

something weird:
http://iax-tech.com/video/3870/38705.htm

This post has been edited by SpikeTwo: Dec 5 2007, 12:51 PM

Go here to check up the comparison:-
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/208229-3...quality-8800gtx

To me, IQ is not a problem anymore for both league. They are about the same unless you want to play "spot it" on two large LCD running the same game then pause and use magnifier to spot the different.

sry if i say any fans boy thing .

every 1 have their own standard or leverl of IQ . my maybe not same as him .. etc .

so whther Nvidia or AIT is both ok for IQ . just stay with what u like most .

i certainly cant see any big difference that justifies "far superior" IQ in that particular image, what bullcrap by THG...

edit: this is what i call noticeable difference 3870 vs 8800GT IQ

but then both the images were taken at slightly different point in time. for 8800GT image u r still kinda far away from landing and vision could be blurred by clouds, compared to 3870 image, which is nearer to the land...

This post has been edited by tadasu: Dec 5 2007, 01:14 PM

yeah that's why. nowadays the gaps of IQ have been very very close.
there's no point in arguing over for IQ.

gonna see more reviews on the 3870.

IMHO one thing i notice moving away from my 7600GS is that ATI does HDR with more subtlety. The HDR effect in a NVIDIA card always seems like overdone compared to ATI card. I think its a matter of personal preference really.

wah Gt image damn blur

did u read the other pages? of the IAX tech? it was due to the drivers. I've posted the links earlier above tadasu's.
those were the clouds as mentioned by tadasu and i've read those in other forums. Yeah, the images were taken during different time frames.

some ppl even mentioned the 3870 unable to render the clouds. that's why there's no grey thing on 3870. how's that? ROFLMAO...

This post has been edited by SpikeTwo: Dec 5 2007, 03:03 PM

Wow, you notice the image quality difference while gaming? What did you do? Snap every frame, sit back and admire the pictures? Really, image quality comparison may be made within games but how much difference can you notice while gaming? You must be paranoid to really take notice. I play games to relax and enjoy...I want the game to run smooth and beautiful, and not bragging about how much better my image is compared to NVIDIA's. If you notice it while using graphic intensive programs, movie editting or watching...then it'll really be worthwhile to note because they hamper your enjoyment. How would a less jagged fence on your screen make any difference in your pursuit of enjoyment while playing CoH?