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post Oct 10 2024, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Oct 10 2024, 01:14 PM)
If you're buying SR model, the white is definitely nicer as the white panel on the doors is I think leather?

SR black color is the cloth... if LR/P then you get suede.
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Yes. For P with suede, with white colour, not sure if it is white suede or other kind of material...
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post Oct 10 2024, 04:02 PM

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Any Tesla owners here park their cars outdoors 24/7? I wonder if it is ok to do that as our hot weather I understand is not good for the battery.
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post Oct 10 2024, 04:43 PM

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the long range rwd version is going to be interesting. wondering what will be the price in msia
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post Oct 10 2024, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(Agent001 @ Oct 10 2024, 01:48 PM)
Yes.  For P with suede, with white colour, not sure if it is white suede or other kind of material...
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I think the white are all leather wrapped if not mistaken regardless which trim level.
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post Oct 10 2024, 09:21 PM

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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Oct 10 2024, 04:43 PM)
the long range rwd version is going to be interesting. wondering what will be the price in msia
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The current LR AWD's range on 18 inch wheels is 678km (629km on 19 inch wheels) so it is actually not too far off from the new LR RWD's range of 702km (640km on 19 inch wheels). If the price of the new LR RWD isn't cheaper by much then I think the LR AWD is still the better pick.
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post Oct 13 2024, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(HotshotS @ Oct 10 2024, 09:21 PM)
The current LR AWD's range on 18 inch wheels is 678km (629km on 19 inch wheels) so it is actually not too far off from the new LR RWD's range of 702km (640km on 19 inch wheels). If the price of the new LR RWD isn't cheaper by much then I think the LR AWD is still the better pick.
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M3LR 18” is 550km at 100% SoH, so EPA is 141 Wh/km, 77.6 kWh battery pack.

Dual motor = 77.6/678=114 Wh/km…
Single motor LR = 77.6/702=111 Wh/km…
Single motor LFP = 60/513=117 Wh/km…

Aiks, how come the NMC is more efficient than the LFP WLTP ratings.

Somehow I realized some brands their WLTP very close to actual driving but for Model 3 very much different 😂

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post Oct 13 2024, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Oct 13 2024, 12:12 PM)
M3LR 18” is 550km at 100% SoH, so EPA is 141 Wh/km, 77.6 kWh battery pack.

Dual motor = 77.6/678=114 Wh/km…
Single motor LR = 77.6/702=111 Wh/km…
Single motor LFP = 60/513=117 Wh/km…

Aiks, how come the NMC is more efficient than the LFP WLTP ratings.

Somehow I realized some brands their WLTP very close to actual driving but for Model 3 very much different 😂
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Good calculation and I want to know why too lmao. Maybe the NMC battery is more or less as efficient as the LFP battery when the driver is not throttling hard and trying to reach the WLTP claim.

Yes Tesla is very different in showing the estimated range. Based on my understanding, the estimated range shown in a Tesla is actually EPA estimates (550km) instead of their marketed WLTP estimates (678km). I think this is a good approach as it gives driver a more accurate estimates but again I think Tesla could have just marketed the EPA range instead of WLTP range which is harder to achieve in reality.
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post Oct 13 2024, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(HotshotS @ Oct 13 2024, 01:49 PM)
Good calculation and I want to know why too lmao. Maybe the NMC battery is more or less as efficient as the LFP battery when the driver is not throttling hard and trying to reach the WLTP claim.

Yes Tesla is very different in showing the estimated range. Based on my understanding, the estimated range shown in a Tesla is actually EPA estimates (550km) instead of their marketed WLTP estimates (678km). I think this is a good approach as it gives driver a more accurate estimates but again I think Tesla could have just marketed the EPA range instead of WLTP range which is harder to achieve in reality.
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I'm starting to think there's "different" WLTP measurements all around...

Tesla's WLTP seems a bit tad too high vs actual.

Cars like Smart #1 and Xpeng G6 has so so WLTP, but actual usage pretty good.
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post Oct 13 2024, 05:55 PM

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anyone had try the tng rfid tag behind this? does it work?

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post Oct 14 2024, 06:08 AM

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QUOTE(babykids @ Oct 13 2024, 05:55 PM)
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anyone had try the tng rfid tag behind this? does it work?
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Does not work, or is extremely slow. The plate is made of metal, it’s blocking the radio frequency.
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Hi all Tesla owners, would like to check a few things on Autopilot

1) what is the max speed we can set on AP ?

2) during my test drive and turn on AP, when I manually turn the streering to avoid motorbike, the AP auto cancelled and system release throttle at the same time which make the car start to regen & braking, is the car able to set AP on throttle only but no streering control?

3) lets say on highway, if we are on AP and I manually changed lane, the AP will be cancelled also is it true? Anyway to avoid this? Make the AP remain active after I manually changed lane

Thanks!
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post Oct 16 2024, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(xom89 @ Oct 16 2024, 01:00 PM)
Hi all Tesla owners, would like to check a few things on Autopilot

1) what is the max speed we can set on AP ?

2) during my test drive and turn on AP, when I manually turn the streering to avoid motorbike, the AP auto cancelled and system release throttle at the same time which make the car start to regen & braking, is the car able to set AP on throttle only but no streering control?

3) lets say on highway, if we are on AP and I manually changed lane, the AP will be cancelled also is it true? Anyway to avoid this? Make the AP remain active after I manually changed lane

Thanks!
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1) Max speed on Autopilot is 140km on both Auto-steer and traffic aware cruise control.
2) Yes, that is called Traffic Aware Cruise Control, you can change it on the autopilot settings on the menu.
3) Same as Q2, do note that you have to have your hands on the steering at all times with TACC.

Side note, always make sure that you are always aware of your surroundings, ensure both hands are on the steering at all times and your throttle foot in on the throttle.
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post Oct 16 2024, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(xom89 @ Oct 16 2024, 01:00 PM)
Hi all Tesla owners, would like to check a few things on Autopilot

1) what is the max speed we can set on AP ?

2) during my test drive and turn on AP, when I manually turn the streering to avoid motorbike, the AP auto cancelled and system release throttle at the same time which make the car start to regen & braking, is the car able to set AP on throttle only but no streering control?

3) lets say on highway, if we are on AP and I manually changed lane, the AP will be cancelled also is it true? Anyway to avoid this? Make the AP remain active after I manually changed lane

Thanks!
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1) 140 km/h
2) Yes, use the TACC. I set for single click TACC, double click Autosteer.
3) Either you get eAP, or S3XY Commander that automatically enables back Autosteer. If you just use TACC, then no issue can just continue.

I personally use TACC a lot more than Autosteer on the highway.
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Oct 14 2024, 06:08 AM)
Does not work, or is extremely slow. The plate is made of metal, it’s blocking the radio frequency.
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Maybe not enabled yet. According to news "the EV no. plate is equipped with a QR code and an integrated RAIN (RAdio frequency IdentificatioN) passive RFID chip running a GS1 UHF Gen2 protocol, operating in the 860 MHz to 930 MHz UHF range. The RFID element – which can be used as an identifier at speeds of up to 230 km/h – isn’t in play yet, but future-proofs the plate for intelligent transportation system (ITS) integration down the line as well for possible payment options.....As the RFID on it uses the entire front plate as an antenna, the chip will give a much stronger signal than say, the plain sticker that TnG uses. "

Source: Paultan
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QUOTE(l2k @ Oct 16 2024, 05:02 PM)
Maybe not enabled yet. According to news "the EV no. plate is equipped with a QR code and an integrated RAIN (RAdio frequency IdentificatioN) passive RFID chip running a GS1 UHF Gen2 protocol, operating in the 860 MHz to 930 MHz UHF range. The RFID element – which can be used as an identifier at speeds of up to 230 km/h – isn’t in play yet, but future-proofs the plate for intelligent transportation system (ITS) integration down the line as well for possible payment options.....As the RFID on it uses the entire front plate as an antenna, the chip will give a much stronger signal than say, the plain sticker that TnG uses. "

Source: Paultan
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They should ensure RFID integrated with toll payment before rolling it out, don’t waste our money to fix multiple RFID and in the end after this integration and implementation then throw away the existing RFID?
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post Oct 24 2024, 06:28 AM

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QUOTE(peace_lover @ Oct 24 2024, 01:01 AM)
They should ensure RFID integrated with toll payment before rolling it out, don’t waste our money to fix multiple RFID and in the end after this integration and implementation then throw away the existing RFID?
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Yes, this is why I'm reluctant to change to the new plate. Only pull factor is when it is integrated into our RFID toll payment.
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post Oct 24 2024, 09:16 AM

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QUOTE(l2k @ Oct 16 2024, 05:02 PM)
Maybe not enabled yet. According to news "the EV no. plate is equipped with a QR code and an integrated RAIN (RAdio frequency IdentificatioN) passive RFID chip running a GS1 UHF Gen2 protocol, operating in the 860 MHz to 930 MHz UHF range. The RFID element – which can be used as an identifier at speeds of up to 230 km/h – isn’t in play yet, but future-proofs the plate for intelligent transportation system (ITS) integration down the line as well for possible payment options.....As the RFID on it uses the entire front plate as an antenna, the chip will give a much stronger signal than say, the plain sticker that TnG uses. "

Source: Paultan
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I heard rumors on the speed identifier. In future once you pass a tol booth, if you speed. Saman will auto send to you. Cause they can auto calculate how fast you drive from Tol booth A to B. If this is true then maybe i wanna hold on to changing to new plates.
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QUOTE(Prometric @ Oct 24 2024, 09:16 AM)
I heard rumors on the speed identifier. In future once you pass a tol booth, if you speed. Saman will auto send to you. Cause they can auto calculate how fast you drive from Tol booth A to B. If this is true then maybe i wanna hold on to changing to new plates.
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Dont think so. Highway Operators are not enforcement. They got no rights to saman you.

This idea is living ahead 20years later.
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Oct 24 2024, 06:28 AM)
Yes, this is why I'm reluctant to change to the new plate. Only pull factor is when it is integrated into our RFID toll payment.
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QUOTE(peace_lover @ Oct 24 2024, 01:01 AM)
They should ensure RFID integrated with toll payment before rolling it out, don’t waste our money to fix multiple RFID and in the end after this integration and implementation then throw away the existing RFID?
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We need to understand the digital plates planning are good intention. TnG company are under CIMB Group corporate umbrella, and they need to profit.
Integration like this means TnG has no meat in the future, furthermore they need to support government to integrate their TnG RFID system.

Of course TnG wouldnt happy to see this, and if not forcing from the government, we won't see integration in short term.

It's private vs government entities now.
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QUOTE(HotshotS @ Oct 10 2024, 09:21 PM)
The current LR AWD's range on 18 inch wheels is 678km (629km on 19 inch wheels) so it is actually not too far off from the new LR RWD's range of 702km (640km on 19 inch wheels). If the price of the new LR RWD isn't cheaper by much then I think the LR AWD is still the better pick.
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I got a friend who interested on M3 rwd with 18 inch wheel. Wondering if using 18inch wheel the M3 standard is still 513km WLTP or maybe more?

This post has been edited by autodriver: Oct 25 2024, 08:58 AM

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