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celciuz
post Oct 25 2024, 09:08 AM

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QUOTE(autodriver @ Oct 25 2024, 08:57 AM)
I got a friend who interested on M3 rwd with 18 inch wheel. Wondering if using 18inch wheel the M3 standard is still 513km WLTP or maybe more?
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As far as I am aware,

Standard Range WLTP is with 18"
Long Range WLTP is with 19"

I just think the WLTP range is pretty much off for Tesla cars laugh.gif . More sensible to follow their EPA ratings which is also what is shown in the car. My drives in Melaka gets less than EPA also, even if I drive like a granny.

M3SR 18" 438km
M3LR 18" 550km

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post Oct 25 2024, 09:47 AM

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Tesla Referral program has started in Malaysia.
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post Oct 25 2024, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(ye0073 @ Oct 25 2024, 09:47 AM)
Tesla Referral program has started in Malaysia.
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What is the benefits of this program?

Btw, anyone using trapo car mats? Is it really necessary?
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post Oct 25 2024, 10:40 AM

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just got my model 3 SR this week, a bit disappointed after found out the trip planner actually doesn't work in malaysia. What is the alternate way to plan trip including charging station?
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post Oct 25 2024, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Oct 25 2024, 09:08 AM)
As far as I am aware,

Standard Range WLTP is with 18"
Long Range WLTP is with 19"

I just think the WLTP range is pretty much off for Tesla cars  laugh.gif . More sensible to follow their EPA ratings which is also what is shown in the car. My drives in Melaka gets less than EPA also, even if I drive like a granny.

M3SR 18" 438km
M3LR 18" 550km
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Thats very low. Are you sure about this? SR with 18” doesn’t even reach 450km but the SA said it should reach about 500km
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post Oct 25 2024, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(Moderna @ Oct 25 2024, 10:38 AM)
What is the benefits of this program?

Btw, anyone using trapo car mats? Is it really necessary?
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i think you can earn tesla credits and use it to purchase accessories
huiqing88
post Oct 25 2024, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(Moderna @ Oct 25 2024, 10:48 AM)
Thats very low. Are you sure about this? SR with 18” doesn’t even reach 450km but the SA said it should reach about 500km
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It is, I am RWD owner.

438KM is the EPA standard, which is considered the more conservative standard compared to WLTP, but it is slightly closer to real world range.
It mainly depends on your route, traffic, weather, elevation and driving behavior.
If you're full on highway with fixed speed at around 100-110kmh, I think its not difficult to hit 500km range.
If you're on daily city drive with stop and go traffic, especially lots of short distance travel, you'll likely see a range of only 300km++.

I'm currently living in Sri Petaling area with daily commute bringing kids go and back from childcare center, and most of the trips are very short distance. My 100% > 20% gets me roughly 250km-280km of range only. FYI my daily route is considered very unoptimized for fuel or electricity consumption, even last time with my Honda Civic also getting around 250km only for ~RM65-70 tank of petrol.
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post Oct 25 2024, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(Moderna @ Oct 25 2024, 10:48 AM)
Thats very low. Are you sure about this? SR with 18” doesn’t even reach 450km but the SA said it should reach about 500km
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brows.gif looks like you got to read up about EPA, WLTP, NEDC, CLTC etc.

For my driving pattern in Melaka town, I get below EPA ratings. I'm driving LR 18"... averaging 160 wh/km, so that gives me about 481km at most. This is assuming I continuously driving... no parking car with sentry mode turned on.
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post Oct 25 2024, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(Moderna @ Oct 25 2024, 10:38 AM)
What is the benefits of this program?

Btw, anyone using trapo car mats? Is it really necessary?
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The person get RM2100 off, and you get RM 1050 Tesla credit.
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post Oct 25 2024, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(huiqing88 @ Oct 25 2024, 11:07 AM)
It is, I am RWD owner.

438KM is the EPA standard, which is considered the more conservative standard compared to WLTP,  but it is slightly closer to real world range.
It mainly depends on your route, traffic, weather, elevation and driving behavior.
If you're full on highway with fixed speed at around 100-110kmh, I think its not difficult to hit 500km range.
If you're on daily city drive with stop and go traffic, especially lots of short distance travel, you'll likely see a range of only 300km++.

I'm currently living in Sri Petaling area with daily commute bringing kids go and back from childcare center, and most of the trips are very short distance. My 100% > 20% gets me roughly 250km-280km of range only. FYI my daily route is considered very unoptimized for fuel or electricity consumption, even last time with my Honda Civic also getting around 250km only for ~RM65-70 tank of petrol.
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For electric cars, isn't it supposed to be more efficient in city drive and less efficient for highway driving?
Anyway, I can see that Tesla's range and efficiency is off by a big margin compared to other manufacturers. The Koreans seem to be the most accurate. Tesla's range shown in the car doesn't even change when the AC is on or off. And some idiots complain that other EVs range become shorter when on AC but Tesla is the best no changes when on AC.
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post Oct 25 2024, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(gobiomani @ Oct 25 2024, 12:11 PM)
For electric cars, isn't it supposed to be more efficient in city drive and less efficient for highway driving?
Anyway, I can see that Tesla's range and efficiency is off by a big margin compared to other manufacturers. The Koreans seem to be the most accurate. Tesla's range shown in the car doesn't even change when the AC is on or off. And some idiots complain that other EVs range become shorter when on AC but Tesla is the best no changes when on AC.
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If you are referring to the range shown in the main UI, that is based on EPA and your battery remaining. It does not take into account your driving pattern or AC settings.

However, if you want one that estimates based on your past 10km or 50km driving behaviour then simply go to Energy app.
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post Oct 25 2024, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(gobiomani @ Oct 25 2024, 12:11 PM)
For electric cars, isn't it supposed to be more efficient in city drive and less efficient for highway driving?
Anyway, I can see that Tesla's range and efficiency is off by a big margin compared to other manufacturers. The Koreans seem to be the most accurate. Tesla's range shown in the car doesn't even change when the AC is on or off. And some idiots complain that other EVs range become shorter when on AC but Tesla is the best no changes when on AC.
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Theoretically, yes. But also do take into account that EV are a lot heavier than ICE counterparts.
For my case, Model 3 RWD is more than 400kg heavier than Civic and that kind of offset the efficiency of EV especially in very short trips with lots of traffic. The car has to repeatedly push a stationery 1760kg object to move forward and stop, not to mention in elevated roads (and we also have lots of speed bumps).

In the highway, do notice that I specified "fixed 100-110kmh" speed. Anything above that or any sudden acceleration, you'll lose battery SoC a lot faster. The key is to stay on constant speed and minimize sudden accelerations, then your range will be closer or even better than the rated range. Since switching to EV, my foot has became so gentle nowadays.

Tesla's est. range is off by quite a lot if you're referring to WLTP. I am also quite puzzled why did Tesla display WLTP on their MY website but using EPA in their car. Should just standardize it to reduce the misaligned expectations from customer. I guess they use WLTP to make their cars ranges look better on paper compared to the competitions.
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Need some advise..I just received my VIN number today in the app. It says to show proof of insurance. I have no plate number yet, how do I go about it? Also. If I want to bid for a number, can I proceed and do it now? How long is the wait from now till I get the car? Thanks in advance
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post Oct 25 2024, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(Capr1corn @ Oct 25 2024, 01:18 PM)
Need some advise..I just received my VIN number today in the app. It says to show proof of insurance. I have no plate number yet, how do I go about it? Also. If I want to bid for a number, can I proceed and do it now? How long is the wait from now till I get the car? Thanks in advance
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Can bid number from JPJeBid system or buy direct from JPJMySikap.
Bid you need to wait for results, number can lasts for 6 12 months. Bought from JPJMySikap number can lasts for 3 6 months. Can get the number in the same day.
Just buy it now, no need worry, more than enough time to get your car.

Once gotten number, then proceed to get the insurance. rclxm9.gif

This post has been edited by huiqing88: Oct 25 2024, 03:03 PM
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QUOTE(huiqing88 @ Oct 25 2024, 01:29 PM)
Can bid number from JPJeBid system or buy direct from JPJMySikap.
Bid you need to wait for results, number can lasts for 6 months. Bought from JPJMySikap number can lasts for 3 months. Can get the number in the same day.
Just buy it now, no need worry, more than enough time to get your car.

Once gotten number, then proceed to get the insurance.  rclxm9.gif
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jpj ebid can last 1 year
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post Oct 25 2024, 02:15 PM

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Among so many other brands of WLTP... I think Tesla one kinda overinflated.

Other cars actual pretty close to their WLTP...!
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post Oct 25 2024, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Oct 25 2024, 02:13 PM)
jpj ebid can last 1 year
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My bad, remember wrongly for both JPJeBid and MySIKAP validity. Should be 12 months and 6 months, respectively.
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post Oct 25 2024, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(huiqing88 @ Oct 25 2024, 01:15 PM)
Theoretically, yes. But also do take into account that EV are a lot heavier than ICE counterparts.
For my case, Model 3 RWD is more than 400kg heavier than Civic and that kind of offset the efficiency of EV especially in very short trips with lots of traffic. The car has to repeatedly push a stationery 1760kg object to move forward and stop, not to mention in elevated roads (and we also have lots of speed bumps).

In the highway, do notice that I specified "fixed 100-110kmh" speed. Anything above that or any sudden acceleration, you'll lose battery SoC a lot faster. The key is to stay on constant speed and minimize sudden accelerations, then your range will be closer or even better than the rated range. Since switching to EV, my foot has became so gentle nowadays.

Tesla's est. range is off by quite a lot if you're referring to WLTP. I am also quite puzzled why did Tesla display WLTP on their MY website but using EPA in their car. Should just standardize it to reduce the misaligned expectations from customer. I guess they use WLTP to make their cars ranges look better on paper compared to the competitions.
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Ok that makes sense but that means that China's CLTC which claims to be using the benchmark for city driving is even more ridiculous (I heard some reviewers say that China's CLTC/NEDC were meant for China city driving conditions).

Tesla is also cheating customers by using the higher WLTP range which is unattainable in their promo materials. Nowadays cannot trust any companies.
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QUOTE(gobiomani @ Oct 25 2024, 03:19 PM)
Ok that makes sense but that means that China's CLTC which claims to be using the benchmark for city driving is even more ridiculous (I heard some reviewers say that China's CLTC/NEDC were meant for China city driving conditions).

Tesla is also cheating customers by using the higher WLTP range which is unattainable in their promo materials. Nowadays cannot trust any companies.
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for people who

drive less than 100 km a day
has charger at home
travel long distance (>200km) occasionally (once in few months)

totally no need to worry about WLTP, EPA at all. mileage anxiety virtually non existence.

This post has been edited by Kiding: Oct 25 2024, 03:45 PM
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post Oct 25 2024, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(autodriver @ Oct 25 2024, 08:57 AM)
I got a friend who interested on M3 rwd with 18 inch wheel. Wondering if using 18inch wheel the M3 standard is still 513km WLTP or maybe more?
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The advertised 513km WLTP range for Model SR is already based on 18-inch wheels.

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