Is that a right way to cpr?

did he survive? from 3rd video seems not.

Is that the place to cpr?

Should not it be higher?

Just curious. How often this happens in the past

Aiseh.

Get well soon. Could happen to any of us

why fb so stupid, embed whole post, video cannot play

RIP
see last video

so in such situation you should go watch youtube and learn the correct technique 1st ?

CPR wrong method of compression may cause broken ribs

Broken ribs during CPR is normal

quite often
in 1 year i heard 3 cases from my badminton circle

he seems awake for a short while in the first video but that guy keep pumping .. is it right?

If you're not sure how to perform cpr, better dont do it. Else it would worsen the patient situation. In this case, can see that instead of pumping the patient heart, that guy was pumping the patient abdomen where it may cause more harm than curing. There's a specific way of doing cpr and not doing like that guy did.

really ? if the person already stopped breathing, what worse can you do ?

my mother boss daughter husband also die when play badminton....
long time ago la...

Best if to find if there is any AED devices around there. I think all sports arena should equipt with at least one AED device. Or if cannot, try to get or find someone who properly trained to perform CPR.

Macam pressing stomach more than heart..
Rather him no press

salah.. 1st video itu orang sudah sedar mean jantung jalan.. x perlu buat cpr dah.. cpr utk unconscious patient with no pulse, jadi kena buat chest compression utk pump darah ke otak.. compression depth kena 3 inci, 100 x per minit.. tekan biar patah tulang rusuk pun xpe

better yg x tau cpr pergi kursus basic 1st aid.. pbsm ada buat, private company ada buat.. selalu company yg ada osh department selalu buat.. kalau xde boleh request

why got 2 people heart attack at the same time?

ther is another woman laying on the ground

Wrong way of cpr could bring more harm

Mcm RIP already based on the 3rd video with the EMT

That fella want to do good but dunno how to, do more harm then good..

Shud just give salt to mouth.
Apply counter pain ointment with methyl salicyate to thigh and stomach and side ribs area and give ample ventilation and tell the person do breath ans hold 3 second and keep repeat until normalize

It should be law that all sports facility have AED

1st video seems recovered but maybe it took a turned.

The badminton operator should learn correct cpr & have first aid kits for heart attack customer.

Tht is his wife la

What heart attack???? Of cos she is going to pengsan seeing her husband in tht condition..

ok my bad that guy did the next step at the end

This post has been edited by h@ksam: Jun 29 2023, 11:58 PM

maybe the wrong cpr method killed him

high cholesterol.
red meat. rip.

India

thats not how u do cpr la bodo , wrong position, wrong pace
might as well jz do mouth 2 mouth if u duno

This post has been edited by lawliet88: Jun 30 2023, 12:04 AM

wrong location one thing, the speed also gg... =( rip

What’s the cause? Heart attack or stroke?
Getting old. I’m worry also

mana ni? just happened?

sad to watch. RIP

gotta youtube all cpr videos. ambulance took like forever to reach.

kena pink venom

Blame vaccine

how old?

badminton mmg like dat one lar...the game so simple and ez to play makes you think you can still push it...

After covid era i see and heard quite often.

I started very active play badminton since late 90s to early 2000s, rarely heard this kind of case.

This post has been edited by Revoz: Jun 30 2023, 01:33 PM

position wrong, hand grip also wrong, & rtthym also way too fast.

This post has been edited by unknown_2: Jun 30 2023, 12:21 AM

https://www.msn.com/en-my/news/national/man...mat/ar-AA1dd5V8
guy dead fixing roof
looks like bjcorner was right

Don't blame the friends lah... Under critical moment, do wrong better than not doing anything...

The person got 3 min only... Still YouTube meh...

feed him 2 panadols

/lol

RIP.
I have a friend passed away, similar situation.

broken ribs during CPR is quite common, especially among older people where their bone more fragile.
but better broken ribs than dead.

FYI, there r law that protects CPR giver that even cause injury, cant sue the CPR giver.
but, u no CPR certificate, & doing it wrong like the video, they van argued that u're causing harm more than helping, hence can sue u.

source: i'm CPR certified. need to renew every 3 years.

not really.
dunno, go get help.
doing it wrong cause more harm, & also if died, family can sue u.

dont have mini defibrillator at badminton court?

If can sue the cpr giver, might as well people won't risk the trouble to perform cpr for people in need.
Everyone just stand there call 999, and do nothing.

Latest CPR already no need do rescue breath, just do 30 compressions and check pulse, then repeat until detect pulse.

u can absolutely sue.
ie like shown in the video.
if u dunno what u're doing, dun hog the spotlight & be a hero.
help go look for people who knows CPR better.

This post has been edited by unknown_2: Jun 30 2023, 12:48 AM

it's called AED
many people dunno the name, how it looks like, where to find, & how to use it.
those badminton courts, usually dun hav la.
air ports, proper branded malls like sunway, pavilion, they hav.

the very first thing u see people collapse lile that, after u check not breathing or no pulse/pulse abnormal, is to get surounding people to go get proper medical help (call 999), & go get AED.
then u start the CPR routine.

No, CPR is meant to bring pulse back. Detect no pulse, CPR until get the pulse back.

If dude is awake and breathing, CPR do nothing but hurt the guy. Its not to help breathing or 'pump more oxygen".

u are not a doctor or specialist so you wont know if that is a critical moment.

imagine if that person actually can make it to the hospital and rescued but instead you gave a wrong cpr method which could make it worse.

Quite a number of people experienced stroke, heart attack during badminton nowadays.

Use HRM la at least. Put a warning once it reaches 150-160bpm so you wont overexert yourself. It could be that day, your body were tired not having enough rest and you decided to push it further. GG lo

Cut off his survival support by doing wrong CPR on him.

But many people nowadays sudah at the level of logic more important than thorlong, so people assume not thorlong is thorlong, and doing wrong thorlong is assisting in a murder, so yeah...

Dun thorlong.

My father friend was like that... After badminton match say wanna rest, sit down only terus gone d...

usually these question is easily answered in bls
when to do full cpr? no pulse and not breathing
when to do rescue breathing? with pulse but not breathing
would hands only cpr be helpful yes, but if it take too long for emt to arrive, you will need mouth to mouth

having aed would greatly helps in this situation, expensive version can guide users toward acls
prompting them to stop cpr with the sign of rosc

rip..

There's a case happened to my father friend few years ago ... they tried to give CPR and etc, but the person does not response and pass away before ambulance reach the court

Clogged by clot.

sei sohai just click the fb logo

scientists are baffled people are dropping like flies.

Gor 2 friend died at badminton court

1 is heart attack
1 is asthma

Many people got covid previously, so their body is weaker now, many are not aware of this.

Actually no, my father died of a heart attack after a game of badminton too.

That was 15 years ago.

During that time I’ve heard of many cases where people just collapse on the court.

I think the game makes people push beyond their limit

so did he died ?

not malaysia right?
age?

This post has been edited by poco loco: Jun 30 2023, 06:05 AM

Is it only one or two person who kena? In 2nd video, saw another woman kena?

That's his wife

Pengsan

although its an indoor game & play relatively in a small court, the game intensity is hard to control & predict..if u play against competitive opponent the game intensity can easily escalate.. if not fit, 1 competitive round of 21 points is enough to make u flat..there's reason why badminton player train hard for their cardio..

This post has been edited by silverbolt143: Jun 30 2023, 06:38 AM

Badminton is a sport for the fit to play. Not to play to fit.

I think this is a case of inconsistency. Play like athlete regularly, body and heart can handle the demand. Play high intensity once a week is asking for trouble especially if you're already middle aged. Sorry to hear about your father.

Applies to any sport, must first know own fitness level

https://www.ipohecho.com.my/2022/07/04/part...triathlon-2022/

i have seen play futsal until collaps rip only 25yo few years back before covid

Malaysia has a long way to go in terms of CPR knowledge as well as availability of AED.

In SG, there is an app for First aid response. Meaning if you Wana volunteer you can just install an app, and when there is an emergency it will alert you if you're nearby.also, first aid training is easily available there and males do NS have to learn also .

AED is available in most public places including HDB. In Malaysia, expensive condo got put AED?

So yes. Knowledge and infrastructure takda. Plus ambulance take longer to arrive also.

This post has been edited by Knnbuccb: Jun 30 2023, 07:33 AM

I think in the second video there are people with CPR knowledge.

True
And I observed this all the time. Most of the weekly players do not do proper and complete warning up. And these people, and the only sports they do is one week play badminton/squash one time.
Once a week pump the heart up like this, plus without proper warm up..... They must really know their limit and listen to their body.

This post has been edited by skyblu3: Jun 30 2023, 07:44 AM

I learned my CPR during PLKN.

Looks like he's pumping the liver instead of heart.

Remember, it's better to have a cracked rib than be dead.
Whether they person doing it correctly or not, he is helping to resuscitate him rather than leaving him to dead.

no give breath?

Good. Next time ppl pengsancan see panties doing CPR on them

So far have u managed to use it

People may have been dying of various causes since before 2021, but what's going on nowadays is called "excess deaths".

Means it is above the norm.

gorrvement should regulate all sport court equip withn AED and court worker train how to use the device.. this is the fastest way to rescue.

otherwise call EMT, u know la in Malaysia, by the time they arrive, gone already

Latest SOP no more

Those who dunno technique to do CPR... Please join the free awareness class on CPR and AED by st john ambulance Malaysia

thats the old way

new approved way is compress and watch chest for breathing or pulse

giving breathe so many unknown or potential risk eg virus etc

recommended only to give to family members as per BSM

can't even eat healthy but want to exercise healthy.

Nutritionist: 95% of Malaysian Adults Don’t Eat Enough Vegetables
https://codeblue.galencentre.org/2022/04/21...ugh-vegetables/

i think the jabatan did a good job pushing AED to public places like park and malls

but i think sports area more prone or exposed to this, should make it mandatory too

and public dont know the number to call... when asked most say 911 lol

You see the person in this thread.

Ate many types of meat in one meal, not a single vegetable.

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=5389553&hl=

The conversation said that unker collapse 2nd time. Still want to play badminton,

2nd video his wife also pengsan?

Many cases already, that's why ayam stop badminton 15 years ago.... don't play with age . . .

damnn

feel sry for the women

watching the loved one gone through final breath, really overwhelming and depressing.

Yer that’s why I’m surprised when I see all these old ppl playing badminton or cycling for 40km. Really tak takut mati. 40 years of abuse. Eating carbs and sugar. Then think they kebal and do crazy things even without checking their blood vessels. Pity their wife and children to suffer now

Broken ribs can happen with proper technique too.

how old are you?
in your 50s 60s?

Nope

Hope he made it.

Hard to tell . since no socmed to collect adequate information on how prevalent such cases were compared to now.