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post Jun 30 2023, 07:43 AM

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QUOTE(silverbolt143 @ Jun 30 2023, 06:37 AM)
although its an indoor game & play relatively in a small court, the game intensity is hard to control & predict..if u play against competitive opponent the game intensity can easily escalate.. if not fit, 1 competitive round of 21 points is enough to make u flat..there's reason why badminton player train hard for their cardio..
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QUOTE(olay biscuit barrel @ Jun 30 2023, 06:44 AM)
I think this is a case of inconsistency. Play like athlete regularly, body and heart can handle the demand. Play high intensity once a week is asking for trouble especially if you're already middle aged. Sorry to hear about your father.
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True
And I observed this all the time. Most of the weekly players do not do proper and complete warning up. And these people, and the only sports they do is one week play badminton/squash one time.
Once a week pump the heart up like this, plus without proper warm up..... They must really know their limit and listen to their body.

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post Jun 30 2023, 09:19 AM

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QUOTE(etan26 @ Jun 30 2023, 09:11 AM)
Many cases already, that's why ayam stop badminton 15 years ago.... don't play with age . . .
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how old are you?
in your 50s 60s?

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post Jun 30 2023, 09:36 AM

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QUOTE(sikongma @ Jun 30 2023, 09:28 AM)
So very true, especially for working adults, you won't get much vege unless you go for mixed rice and even then a lot of mixed rice places just give you lots of rice like no tomorrow  sweat.gif
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vege save lives?
hahaha

inbe4 all vegeterians people are very healthy no heart attack.

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post Jun 30 2023, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(CoffeeDude @ Jun 30 2023, 09:29 AM)

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to reach this level i believe must be always consistent.
from young to old very active, always exercise play sports regularly.
then no need to give self excuses that old already cannot play sports and exercise.

majority of the people around you, im sure you can count with your 10 fingers how many are consistent. right?
consistent doesn't mean one week play badminton one time and that is the only time he sweat.
i mean daily workout / exercise that will pump up the heart.
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post Jun 30 2023, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(Julie Ting @ Jun 30 2023, 09:41 AM)
what's your workouts nowadays?
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how about yours?

now i have only 1 rest day per week.

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post Jun 30 2023, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(sikongma @ Jun 30 2023, 09:48 AM)
Nope, but aren't we talking about balanced diet here? Balanced diet needs a lot more fibre than we normally consume eating out which veges and fruits have. To many, "I do sports thus I can eat anything" is like a mantra but EVEN if you do sports but you eat more than the calories you burn, you'll not lose weight and worse yet, if you don't watch what you eat.

Not much into fitness stuff (and definitely not vegetarian/vegan lifestyle) but I do believe a balanced diet helps a lot in reducing heart attacks.
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very true
i do sports alot and i believe in balance diet.
and whatever we put into the mouth must be always in moderation.

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post Jun 30 2023, 09:59 AM

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QUOTE(Julie Ting @ Jun 30 2023, 09:52 AM)
I ask etan who quit badminton
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and i was asking you who just asked etan who quit badminton.
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post Jun 30 2023, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(sikongma @ Jun 30 2023, 09:56 AM)
I'm just doing enough sports to keep within BMI... and M'sia just recommended new BMI target (if not mistaken at 21) to be even lower so back to workouts and re-planning my meals =.=
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thats awesome
keep it up.

with my recent leg injury, im going a bit slower for the past few weeks.
hopefully by next month i'll be back to my normal routine.


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post Jun 30 2023, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(sikongma @ Jun 30 2023, 10:11 AM)
Kinda coincident I think I stressed my knees during one of my sprints... now both knees felt like falling off even when I walk normally. Just gotten some knee support sleeves so as I can work on reducing my BMI. BTW how did you find time between working out and riding? biggrin.gif

On another note, someone here mentioned a workout watch to monitor heart rate is quite useful, previously I never knew there's a max (which should be only around 10 secs to 1 min)  and even pushing to anaerobic heart rate zone (zone 4) is only recommended for twice a week. Having a good workout watch help uneducated ppl like me to be aware of the dangers of over-workouts biggrin.gif
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I'm having plantar faciatis issue on my right foot. still looking for the cure.


on weekdays I work out after work, at night
When i go to office work, i'll reach home usually at around 6pm to 6:15pm. prepare simple light dinner for family. then take my dog for her daily walk. then at around 8pm I'll go for run (Monday, Wednesday). my area is hilly area, i'll be running up slopes most of the time. So I'll just do a solid 30 to 45 minutes run without stopping. That will be around 3.5KM to 4KM plus.

On Tuesdays and Thursday, I play squash after work.

Friday is my rest day

Saturday morning I'll go for easy road cycling in my area (hilly area)....will do around 15KM plus.

Sunday morning I'll go for my MTB cycling, usually from 7:30am until 11am.



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post Jun 30 2023, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(Julie Ting @ Jun 30 2023, 10:12 AM)
what's your work that sweats you?
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sweat is one thing
but i always believe that we need to always pump up our heart and lungs.
cannot always be at relax stage.

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post Jun 30 2023, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(sikongma @ Jun 30 2023, 10:34 AM)
Wow, very VERY active lifestyle and thanks for sharing. I doubt I can do that (knee already tells me I shouldn't run that much at my age). Just settling at brisk walks and controlling food intakes. Thinking about taking up bicycling (easier on the knees) but so much hate on cyclists nowadays made me think twice.
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mind me asking how old are you?

knee pain, i used to have this many many years ago.
due to the sports i play mostly hard on the knees - squash, futsal.

one of the main reason is body weight. and then shoes.
i reduced my weight to my ideal body weight (that was about 8KG) and i started using a good running shoes.
no more knee pain now.

cycling, if you do not want to cycle on the road.
you can do what i do....mountain biking. just ride on those crosscountry type of trail. Not asking you do to downhill and enduro trail rides (which includes jumps and drops, etc). Just a good cycling on a long off road trail is good enough - we call this cross country ride.


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post Jun 30 2023, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(sikongma @ Jun 30 2023, 10:35 AM)
Yeah... learnt that from the sports watch thingy. Wasn't even aware of this previously biggrin.gif
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when i squash, my average HR is about 145 bpm. and average max at around 180bpm.
but whenever i play with former pro or state players, i will max at around 188bpm, they can really push me to this level, lol. if i remember correctly my record was 190bpm.


mtb time. average at around 130bpm. Max at around 170bpm.

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post Jun 30 2023, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(ze2 @ Jun 30 2023, 10:43 AM)
Piaping ok ?
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piaping easy peasy lah.
no effort also.

unless you are doing helicopter styles
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post Jun 30 2023, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(Mr Mercedes @ Jun 30 2023, 10:47 AM)
I do agree with those who says to wear a device to monitor your heart rate when playing sports.

Many years ago, I studied some basic sports science as part of my qualifications for personal training

It is advisable to condition your body before attempting strenuous exercises, and ideally, when working out or exercising, to maintain between 35%-60% of your maximum heart rate. But those are textbook theories. If your body is well conditioned, you can workout beyond those numbers.

Of course, athletes go beyond their maximum heart rate all the time, but then, they have Sports Scientists, doctors, physios, and nutritionists working with them regularly to ensure that they are fit to compete beyond their maximum heart rate.

For regular guys like us, yearly body checkup is a must. Especially stuff like blood tests to check on your cholesterol and sugar levels. Tailor your diet to deal with any high level of unhealthy stuff. A lot of younger guys these days are quite unhealthy too. I just came across a 25 year old guy, slim, active in badminton, but has high LDL cholesterol levels and mild fatty liver.

Also, it is good to invest in a blood pressure monitor. I had a friend, working in one of the big 4, young guy only, 39. Died of heart attack while hiking.  Blood pressure was consistently 175/110, refused to be on meds, as he felt normal and was watching his diet and wanted to reduce BP naturally. Stress also plays a big role in elevated Blood pressure for younger folks these days, very competitive environment and economy is like shit these days. Piles the pressure on us. See a psychiatrist if you have to. No shame on it. Strenuous exercise with high blood pressure can cause a rupture in your arteries, and cause heart attack.

I always say that regular exercise is a must, but please don't overdo it. Stay safe guys.
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yeah
work stress do affect our body a lot (and mentally)
if you remember my story, why i chose to find another job...simpler and lower ranked job.

i come to realise that working like this is not worth it.
make so much money, but then, in the end, the money you earn will be used mainly for medical (or even funeral).
really not worth it


and when it comes to exercising, warming up is very important. seen many people just jumped in without proper warming up. some even cincai do warm up when i sound them. They will just move a bit, swing their arms a bit, pull and pull a bit. That's WARM Up?!

when i play sports especially, i take more than 10 minutes to warm up, that includes light run to pump up my heart and lungs gradually.

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post Jun 30 2023, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(CoffeeDude @ Jun 30 2023, 11:01 AM)
Good that you are very active in exercise.

But everything is cardio?
Running, squash, cycling all cardio exercise.

No strength training?
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Stregth training in the morning after i wake up (monday to friday). spend about 15 minutes of solid workout every morning. i wake up at around 5:30am everyday. So i have the time.

lifting weights, pumping, sit up, plankings.
These workouts are boring to me , you know me lah.
So 15 minutes of this workout I enough for me (solid one of course).


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post Jun 30 2023, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(skyblack4492 @ Jun 30 2023, 11:09 AM)
Ur exercise so power one. Body must tip top
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this is not power lah.
I don't usually push to limit (except when playing sports)

running i just make sure I don't cheat and do a solid continous 30 minutes run. maintain the heartrate. I'm not running to get a gold medal. right?


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post Jun 30 2023, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(sikongma @ Jun 30 2023, 11:12 AM)
Mid 40s. Yes, was having high BMI but brought myself down by 7 kgs so far but knees stopped supporting me. Perhaps I'll need better shoes as well biggrin.gif I believe part of my meniscus portruded out and thus everytime it was "touched", I lose strength on the knee.

Good idea to go off road cycling (sorry I tend to differentiate between cycling-bicycles vs riding-motorcycles), wonder why I haven't thought of that yet biggrin.gif
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you are in Mid 40s. i'm more senior than you.

sometimes knee or leg pain is mainly due to wrong running technique

as for knee support. get a good knee support guard. get those adjustable type.
I'm using this brand and this type. good stuff. can get from watson, sports direct, etc.
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post Jun 30 2023, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(atrakus @ Jun 30 2023, 11:19 AM)
i was fine for 5-10 min at first when i started playing badminton with my friend. then im done since i need to go back home. while on my way back when im on my bike i feel suddenly sweaty. i found a shop and buy a drink.

im suddenly sweaty and panting when im paying for my drink. i rested on my my bike while waiting my sweat to evaporate while drinking. look like i need to stretch first before playing. not it a problem before. look like im aging sad.gif
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aging is just a number

what you need is fitness and consistency.
not just a once a week thing.


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post Jun 30 2023, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(skyblack4492 @ Jun 30 2023, 11:20 AM)
Power le. Unker just walk slow 30minute 3days per week like that only. Cant even jog and running.
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power one is Coffeedude
he reduced his body weight by 20kg within months.
now he is maintaining.
everyday can hear him do Core Muscle training, run 10KM few times per week (1 hour 2 minutes time), do gymnastic stuffs at home, do the rope exercise, etc.
That's why he was sharing this clip.
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