To wedjohn57: Great Guide , didnot test it but it sounded right. Maybe Prasys should consider posting it at post#1 in a spoiler mode for future guidelines.

To doinkz_gaara: Hmmmm...... msn no issue at all whole night as i was chatting on it. this is not the first time for you.... i suspect it is either intermittent signal or port error.... maybe some "sifu" can help you out. Verify the settings again.

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Added on January 15, 2008, 12:36 amdun quite get you on that, but it a known policy that you can transfer your account as long as there is a willing taker and RM50, i've verified this at KLCC but you need both taker and giver present at the counter and not possible to do so by phone as the new taker needs to sign all the required documents and declarations (and must not appear in their blacklist).

Btw, new Latest Mac software for E220 available!!!
http://www.maxis.com.my/maxisbb/

This post has been edited by JWCheah: Jan 15 2008, 12:36 AM

Is Bandar Baru Bangi got this wired service?

Haha, wired service here refers to tmnut swimyx.. haha, check with ur local TMnut

Hooho. i tot u want to change from maxis wireless bb to maxis wired bb

ya, i did went to the maxis centre in taman tun dr ismail with my friend

but the staff just rejected me with the reason "still under contract" & "my senior told me"

then i ask them again la i see other ppl also can transfer and she reply the same shit, since i cant argue with anything so i just came home to study the contract, i cant even find anything regarding transfering ownership link with 18 months contract

im going back to try if still cant then go KLCC? do u have anyone to refer to

Well it is an Indian guy sitting at the BB counter (C15/16/17 i think), a well build guy with goatee... dun know his name but very helpful. Just tell them some bull story that you might be leaving the country for study and this is the best alternative rather than waiting for the account to get default. hope this helps ;)

Tell you guys a trick.

Maxis allows you to suspend your account for 3 months without incurring any charges which at the end of it your line will get terminated.

There's no clause in their contract which disallows this and to those who are currently tied with their contracts you can request for the suspension of your account for a max of 3 months and resume it before your line gets terminated.

Remember, that it's very important that you resume it right before the 3 months period from the start day of suspension to avoid your account from being terminated.That's when they'll incur the penalty in your next bill for the remaining months if you don't reactivate your account again.

Now here's the trick:

Suspend your line for near 3months and resume it again for like say 1 month then after that suspend it once again for another 3 months.

3 months of suspension - 1 month of use - 3 months of suspension - 1 month of use..
That way you only need to pay for 3 months in a year.

This does not apply to their notebook offers though as you're being charged directly to your credit card for the whole sum instead.

This technique is applicable to their myMaxis phone deals too.

Of course as JWCheah said, must be good at making up stories better than the indians so that they'll do the suspension for you.
Better still you can also do it over the phone to their call centres.

Tell them that you're going overseas for short periods of time.

Telling you this, they may change their contract in the future.So be wise not to fall into it again and the potential subscribers, think twice before putting the dot on the contract.

This post has been edited by Kukumalu: Jan 15 2008, 07:46 AM

called up maxis to ask about upgrading to 78 package.. they say if want to upgrade have to renew contract 18 month again

how come maxis can be like tat. change contract suka suka without informing user. Now i regret i dint print out the original term and condition.

sommore, i was told my contract is automatically renewed to 18+6 months because i terminated the homevoice! i terminated homevoice 6 month after i first subscribe, as instructed. but now it meant i have to stick to maxis for another 6 months!

guys. do terminate ur homevoice immediately. not after 6 months!

no you're wrong... it states at least 1 months prior written notice... so you should have done it right after you passed your 16 months of usage...and to be ultra safe, you should send them an e-mail with the scanned written mail, written mail, and also hand deliver a copy of the written mail to the KLCC Maxis Centre to make sure they receive it one way or another...

the auto renewal is a stupid agreement... it's like forcefully putting people into deep shit...i think they should get rid of it... i don't mind having it for my fixed deposits... but not this definitely...either that or they'll get loads of complaints...


yeah i agree... i think no one has pass the 18 month marker yet... sometime soon, some lucky fella will be so happy when he can finally terminate his maxisbb after his 19 months of usage and suddenly goes WTF finding out that he has been auto renewed...


so what is the transfer thing for.. might as well your friend register a new one as he will for sure get another 18 months on contract for this (most probably)...


dammit...there is only 2 ways to this i think...

blackmail your way out of it... threaten by saying you are not going to pay for it if they don't let you terminate or transfer and keep the modem for however long the period is... you can't threaten to terminate your way out of it because you are trying to terminate, so just threaten not to pay and not to return their stuff... then just tear up the notification and lawyer letters as it comes... i believe they won't really send a real lawyer after you for this...

the other is to forge a fake death cert (not easy to do, ask some friends to photoshop or something)... i don't think they can do anything to a dead man right.. and i don't think they'll go through all the processes of verifying if the person is dead right? there is only a 10% chance that this will work...( i think )... and if it does work... maxis will suddenly find a lot of their subscribers dead


i mean if it is an upgrade or downgrade i think it is acceptable for a contract renewal (although it is not a very rightful way)... Astro and StreamyX does this also...

after further reading on the agreement (actually i just went through 10.x)... i was shocked...

10.3 The Customer shall not be entitled to terminate the Agreement at anytime and for any reason whatsoever ...blah blah blah... If the Agreement is terminated by the Customer for any reason whatsoever (save for termination pursuant to Clauses 10.8 or 17.1) or by Maxis pursuant to any of the situations specified in Clause 10.4 below prior to the expiry of the Initial Term, the Customer shall be liable to pay Maxis in full the Services Charges for the remainder of the Initial Term, as the case may be, ("Termination Sum") and all charges and amounts outstanding as at the date of termination including accrued interests .

WOW...

10.6 Maxis reserves the right to suspend or terminate a Customer who consistently uses the Service to download or upload extremely high data. For the avoidance of doubt, the Service is not designed for consistent or extremely heavy users, particularly using peer-to-peer applications constantly. There may be a very small number of the Customers who sign up for this Service who consistently use the network to the detriment of others.

another WOW...

maybe they should call it Maxis Dial Up from now on...why broadband?...luckily i found that they never used the word "unlimited" in any part of their site...

if i am not using high amounts of data (non-p2p, maybe youtuber or legally downloading paid MP3s or Movies) then why am i getting the maxisbb? might as well i just opt for TM dial up...i think the way they put it is that we'll give you a Bugatti Veyron but will cap the power output to just 80Bhp because you should not be having 1001Bhp and you are only allowed to drive 300KMs per month...WTH

now i am getting worried about the termination of my home voice plan... i am getting the feeling that it will not be easy to terminate and i have to appear at KLCC Maxis Centre's doorstep the second my six months is full.. and i have the feeling i'll be conned into paying additional RM15 for the 6th month...DAMMIT...

now i wonder why they never give us a printed copy of this agreement? too many pages to print...how do they expect someone without internet connection to see this before they register... and how do they expect people to know that this existed? it is hidden so deep that i am only able to find the link "Maxis Broadband Terms & Conditions and the General Terms and Conditions" under the Fair Usage Policy page under the packages... maybe i am wrong or i am just stupid...

...it seems like we're getting suckered into a lifetime of misery... just hope they keep their services good as promised so that we find no excuses to terminate...

This post has been edited by butthead: Jan 15 2008, 11:29 AM

is the limit unlimited??

cause I tot of changing into this from streamyx...

Dont even think about Maxis broadband. (I'm using USB mobile RM138 package)

1. It's not unlimited package, It's limited to 3Gb/month, lebih kena bayar xtra
2. 3.6Mb/s tu speed untuk satu kawasan/sector
3. Disconnected very very frequently.
4. 3.6Mb/s is only for HSDPA(High Speed..) area.
5. All BITTORRENT port is closed from 6am to 1am.(Open also very slow..)


Others I dont know but Maxis Broadband mobile SUXS!!!
The stupid fair usage contract is NOT FAIR at all!
Dont sold your soul to this guys.

Wow.... lots of angry faces.... but please provide the facts and not personal accusations....
when you mention in point#1 [lebih kena bayar xtra] did you get charged? If yes, how do they charge you?
any prove of bill you can upload for us to share? I'm sorry for being a nosy, but i was on in for few months with average 70GB download per month and no extra charges like you mention...

Btw, tell me any other wireless that do not throttle P2P.... Jaring? It is limited at the moment.... Don't compare to Streamyx as it is wired and it is in a different class.... i'm not defending Maxis but most of us in this forum are sharing useful tips on how to maximize our usage with FACTS.....
For example.... for P2P... try using WebUI (e.g. GetByte.com) or VPN.... great speed if you are living <2km from the base station....

Before I start u better be using USB mobile package or it will be a waste for me to attend to your cause rather than to the whole forumners.

The first point is from their FAIR USAGE policy
Please refer to FAIR USAGE policy??

I dont care about whether u are getting charged or not. If it's in the contract u can be charged anytime, whether its now or 6 month later.

Throttling is the secondary point. The MAIN point is blocking Torrents port for about 19 hours per 24 hours a day. That's not broadband. Hey we paid for it. Azureus is speedy than any Ive tried but maybe because they have total control of the files to download from their side (There, I share some useful information)

I'm not commenting on their speed but to more to the stability of their connection. Going from fast to slow is not as much problem as when the line is disconnected right then and there. Nightmare if u are in a middle of internet banking or on a processing page that cant be refreshed.

I'm a reasonable person and can tolerate moderation but I just cannot tolerate when people take advantage of u as a person with their TOTALLY ridiculous FAIR USAGE policy

Try comparing the Celcom more civilized FAIR USAGE Policy

I just dont wanna any other forumners here not knowing what they will sign.

Thanks..

i don't think you'll get charged for going over 3GB/month lar... every bloke will sure hit at leat 3GB per monht one.. unless he get one and leave it at home to gather dust... with the technology and the interactivity of the internet this days... 3GB is nothing... just try to just surf lowyat.net only and see how much data goes through your adapter? it'll amaze you how each banner, emoticon and avatar can costs you in data cost...

Maxis is not using their head when they set the 3GB/Month rule... i don't think they ever dare to make a move at charging people for excessive usage... if not there will be a big public outbreak on this issue and they end up losing more than half their customers...whether they enforce the contract or not...agree?

i don't believe anyone achieved 3.6Mbps before... even in a 3G covered spot...

how sucky is it for you i have no idea... as far as i am concerned.. i am still OK with the service with no major complaints... just a bit unhappy with their agreements and contracts...

i do agree with you on the point of doing internet banking and such web applications that is based on sessions... it could be troublesome if you stay on a single page for too long at times...

as for celcom.. not sure what they offer... but no one will ever know by just looking at the surface.. somone will definitely have to be the guinea pig to try and experience the pains first then we can compare both of this services...

all in all.. it is fair to say both of this service is not going to be suitable for gamers and BTers...

and i don't get what is the difference between the RM138 and the RM98, RM78 and RM68 package other than the speed and for the rental of the modem...what the maxis guys told me is that the price we see is actually a combination of a base package price for 384, 640 or 3.6Mbps and then on top of it is added another rental price and the USB modem is actually the most costly to rent...

Reasonable respons..

For me, nothing is better.. have to stick to the current 'slowness'.. Until the FTTH is on track..


Yeah, I tried to go for the best and end up with the most controversial.. hmm..

IMHO, Right now the only advantage of the USB one is MOBILITY..

"Celcom reserves the right to release customer information pursuant to any copyright (and/or intellectual property right) infringement if it is required to do so by any law, regulatory body or court of law."

wow.. this scares all the P2Pers off... that means if the act to catch the illegal downloaders come into power... all of the P2Pers can get backstabbed and given up by celcom legally

if you remember the napster case in the US where they actually wanted to prosecute a list of people in the states... their ISP actually have to go into court with whatever authority in power who was deciding to prosecute this people...the ISPs had to defend them (the clients ) as this was their private information that there were being asked surrendered to the authorities...

i wonder if Maxis has this clause?

anyways... .not to say anything..but we are all law abiding citizens aren't we

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Added on January 15, 2008, 6:27 pmhaha... i think this will be the best you can ever get to... heard they say the unlimited 3G service on our mobile phones are actually even better than maxissbb... but then it is 2 expensive to try as i dun have a 3G cell and even if i buy one... i'll have to leave it at home for internet conn... which is a waste...

i thought the home packages are supposedly "mobile" too... it comes with some sort of crappy battery... so that you can travel around with the big piece of plastic that you can show off to your frens...anywas... i thrown the battery out after 3 hours of getting it as it was so hot i thought it was going to melt through the modem and my desk and straight down sending earth into doomsday...

anyways... as far as for HTTP and FTP downloads.. i have a stupid way to make the connection stay active for as long as possible until it decidedly decides to kill itself and redial...hence so far no issues for me...i already accepted the fact that p2p is not going to work when i got the conn... so i was quite OK with the fact that p2p does not work.. i just did not know the agreement was that bad till today...

This post has been edited by butthead: Jan 15 2008, 06:27 PM

Yes, they have this policy too. If you break the law and they come after you with a valid court order, of course Maxis and Celcom, and for this purpose, all other ISPs will release your personal information to comply with the law.

well Facts.....
Maxis : limit 3GB
Digi : limit 5GB
Celcom :unlimited but.....


The point I was making on is the way you sounded like you got a BIG SLAP from MAXIS BILLING for over the limit which in actual fact, a big NO. I can understand the frustration while getting discon in the middle of Internet Banking but how often do you experience it. If it is very often then it must be bad reception at your area and there are tips in this forum that can help you resolve(improve) your issues. Look man.... chilled.... we are in here to assist each other in dealing with MaxisBB and to all newbies who inquire the service needs to read the previous post to understand the situation. If Celcom serves you better at your area then so be it.... sorry if i offended u but please bear in mind where I'm coming from.... we need FACTS.... or else this thread will become just another cursing + complaining thread like the rest and not helpful in resolving the issues... PRASYS has did a lot of work to this (check out post#1) to help the rest...

Btw, I've used all the product ZTE / USB E220 / I2G (on Sierra875).... cheers man

This post has been edited by JWCheah: Jan 15 2008, 06:41 PM

then the government can consider recollecting back more lands to build more jailhouses as i believe most of us are sinners and will soon be kicked into prison or sentenced to death for owning too much illegal contents downloading from the internet...even a 40 year old uncle know how to P2P nowadays... "Astro on Demand my @s the uncle says"...

then we can come up with a new campagin called "P2P Kills" or "P2P! Tak Nak!"

think i am getting more and more sorry

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Added on January 15, 2008, 6:44 pmi think juno had the problem where his modem went down to EDGE on idle as he stayed on a page for too long...then when he clicked on to continue the connection went back to HSDPA but it was a re-connection rather than a change of service and the worst is the public IP changes and his session got terminated on the server side of the banking system...i had this problem too when i started out doing work for my office...

This post has been edited by butthead: Jan 15 2008, 06:44 PM

No wonder. Hope u can read the FACTS before replying.

Eheh.. just kidding..


Like yor style.. Calm and resonable man(or woman etc)..
PS: I'ts Jonu.. Jonu Dslugo..

This post has been edited by jonu: Jan 15 2008, 06:51 PM