But some plastics are better than other plastics....

That's why helmets have a expiry date. Hahaha.


That said....


This was my helmet I was using for a week while in Vietnam. Cute isn't it? Hahaha. Let's just say helmets and helmet laws in Vietnam is questionable at best. Some people ride with bicycle helmets on.

My helmet that I had left in VN before COVID basically just disintegrated.

This post has been edited by jaycee1: Mar 8 2023, 03:17 PM

weyyyy, that's cute
+5hp

Got expiry date? If they chop the dates on helmets then habis lah. Masuk roadblock check helmet expiry date, hahaha.

For certification, I don't mind DOT, so SIRIM or ECE are definitely better. SHARP and SNELL are a plus. For DOTs, I'll try find them in NHTSA directory for audit results for peace of mind. We won't see Index in there, I think...

I think SIRIM more higher than DOT helmets.

It definitely is..DOT tests are outdated AF and its also based on trust system these days...manufacturers done need to send products in for testing...they just need to claim its good enough for dot n thats it.

Afaik sirim actually tests the helmets and the testing methodology is similar to ece iinm.... I've also heard some ppl saying sirim is better than ece coz sirim tests the impact point twice instead of ece's once...not sure abt the truth in this.

So yes, despite the existence of MS88, i have confidence in sirim certified helmets

Sirim is definitely better than DOT. Assuming no hanky panky under table stuff we are so famous for.

Even the free driving school helmet feels more substantial than some Chinese helmets with a "DOT" sticker.

The New ECE22.06 and FIM will be the best, as they both test for rotational impacts.

Many dare to wear fakes because safety is not a priority to them.

Wearing a helmet is just for a show.

When it comes to safety gears, I don't buy and wear fakes.
I'll get the best I can afford

The part that do most of the impact absorption is not the plastic shell. It's the layer of EPS foam that protect your head by absorbing the impact.

Many non branded helmets don't even use eps foam.

I think EPS foam is polystyrene. From what I read, the thing is recommended for one use only. Some EPS are painted black to allow for inspection, meaning if there's visible white cracks, the EPS liner is 'bad'.

That's correct on the most part. EPS is just Expanded PolyStyrene. They come in different densities. All helmets will have some sort of EPS.

Shells are also elastic. They will deform or bounce back if not past the limit. After which the EPS liner takes over.

However if it cracks, the EPS performance is affected.

Cheap/fake helmets have very very thin and low density EPS. They very easily absorb light impacts, but just not a lot of it. Cheap/fake helmet shells also use ABS which tends to crack instead of flex like polycarbonate which is more flexible and resists cracking better.

Premium fiberglass/carbon/kevlar shells can deform even more before cracking spreading the force over a bigger portion of the EPS so they can afford to make do with thinner or multi-density EPS to make the helmet smaller and lighter. Premium doesn't necessarily safer, as the helmet manufacturer uses better materials to improve other attributes. Stronger shell = thinner EPS and thus smaller shell for a given size leading to lower overall weight.

The EPS on my cheap Zeus is twice as thick as the dual density EPS on my Rapha 70.... And as the result, the HJC looks noticibly slimmer. The AGV K6 has both a fiberglass/carbon/kevlar shell and 5 layer multi-density EPS...and it is so much lighter and slimmer than even my HJC.

This post has been edited by jaycee1: Mar 9 2023, 03:38 PM

For those big headed bros. Serdang motorsports have the new line of LS2 22.06 up to 4xl

Do you all use a waist pouch or something similar when you ride?

Sometimes I do for short rides

I wear a waist pouch all the time...riding or not

I wear a waist that looks like a pouch all the time 🤪

can share what waist pouch you are using ?
is waterproof ?

I'm using tactical type. More useful to carry my EDC

Same here.
Keep most of my edc inside.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

The one sold.by bikempire. Uglybros. Supposed to be waterproof but.....not really..it cant handle long periods of heavy rain..but a simple plastic bag n double sided tape can fix that n make it properly waterproof.

The uglybros are good for my use in terms of pockets etc but they dont last that long with my rough use n i actually have 2 more spare as backup. Im actually contemplating on switching to acerbis 4L pouch bags but they r twice the price n not enough pockets for me

Whats edc?

I thought the same, I think it means this:

thx for the info bro

i use the Hypergear Pouch L