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post Jul 2 2022, 02:38 AM, updated 4 months ago

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Honours

Premiership (13): 1993, 1994, 1996, 1997, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2003, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2011, 2013
Division One Champions (7): 1908, 1911, 1952, 1956, 1957, 1965, 1967
Division Two Champions (2): 1936, 1975

European Cup/UEFA Champions League (3): 1968, 1999, 2008
UEFA Europa League (1): 2017
European Cup-Winners' Cup (1): 1991
European Super Cup (1): 1991

FA Charity/Community Shield (21 (17 outright, 4 shared)): 1908, 1911, 1952, 1956, 1957, 1965*, 1967*, 1977*, 1983, 1990*, 1993, 1994, 1996, 1997, 2003, 2007, 2008, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2016 (* = joint holders)
FA Cup Winners (12): 1909, 1948, 1963, 1977, 1983, 1985, 1990, 1994, 1996, 1999, 2004, 2016
League Cup Winners (5): 1992, 2006, 2009, 2010, 2017

Toyota Inter-Continental Cup Winners (1): 1999
FIFA Club World Cup (1): 2008

Managers

A. H. Albut [1892 - 1900]
James West [1900 - September 1903]
Ernest Magnall [10 October 1903 - 9 September 1912]
T. J. Wallworth [9 September 1912 - 20 October 1912]
John Bentley [28 October 1912 - 28 December 1914]
John Robson [28 December 1914 - 31 October 1921]
John Chapman [31 October 1921 - 8 October 1926]
Clarence Hildrith [8 October 1926 - 13 April 1927]
Herbert Bamlett [13 April 1927 - 9 November 1931]
Walter Crickmer [9 November 1931 - 13 July 1932]
Scott Duncan [13 July 1932 - 7 November 1937]
Walter Crickmer [9 November 1937 - 15 February 1945]
Matt Busby [1 October 1945 - 11 June 1969]
Jimmy Murphy [February 1958 - June 1958]
Wilf McGuinness [11 June 1969 - 29 December 1970]
Matt Busby [29 December 1970 - 8 June 1971]
Frank O'Farrell [8 June 1971 - 19 December 1972]
Tommy Docherty [22 December 1972 - 4 July 1977]
Dave Sexton [14 July 1977 - 29 April 1981]
Ron Atkinson [9 June 1981 - 6 November 1986]
Sir Alex Ferguson [6 November 1986 - 30 June 2013]
David Moyes [01 July 2013 - 22 April 2014]
Ryan Giggs *Caretaker* [22 April 2014 - 18 May 2014]
Louis van Gaal [July 2014 - 23 May 2016]
Jose Mourinho [27 May 2016 - 18 December 2018]
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer [19 December 2018* - 21 November 2021] *Note: Appointed officially on 28 March 2019
Michael Carrick *Caretaker* [21 November 2021 - 02 December 2021]
Ralf Rangnick *Interim* [03 December 2021 - 22 May 2022]
Erik ten Hag [23 May 2022 - Current]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Manch..._and_statistics

Record Home Win: 10-0 v Anderlecht, 26/09/1956 (European Cup Preliminary Round, 2nd leg)
Record Home Defeat: 1-7 v Newcastle United, 10/09/1927 [Division 1]

Record Away Win: 8-1 v Nottingham Forest, 06/02/1999
Record Away Defeat: 0-7 v Blackburn Rovers, 10/04/1926 (Division 1) | 0-7 v Aston Villa, 27/12/1930 [Division 1] | 0-7 v Wolverhampton Wanderers, 26/12/1931 [Division 2]

Record Win: 10-0 v Anderlecht, 26/09/1956 (European Cup Preliminary Round, 2nd leg)
Record Defeat: 0-7 v Blackburn Rovers, 10/04/1926 (Division 1) | 0-7 v Aston Villa, 27/12/1930 [Division 1] | 0-7 v Wolverhampton Wanderers, 26/12/1931 [Division 2]

Record League Win: 10-1 v Wolves, 15/10/1892 (Division 1)
Record League Defeat: 0-7 v Blackburn Rovers, 10/04/1926 (Division 1) | 0-7 v Aston Villa, 27/12/1930 [Division 1] | 0-7 v Wolverhampton Wanderers, 26/12/1931 [Division 2]

Record Premier League Win: 9-0 v Ipswich Town, 04/03/1995
Record Premier League Defeat: 0-5 v Newcastle United, 20/10/1996 | 0-5 v Chelsea, 03/10/1999 | 1–6 v Manchester City, 23 October 2011

Record FA Cup Win: 8-0 v Yeovil Town, 12/02/1949
Record FA Cup Defeat: 1-7 v Burnley, 13/02/1901 [1st Round]

Record European Win: 10-0 v Anderlecht, 26/09/1956 (European Cup Preliminary Round, 2nd leg)
Record European Defeat: 0-5 v Sporting, 18/03/1964 [Cup Winners' Cup QF]

Record Champions League Win: 7-1 v Roma, 10/04/2007 [UCL QF, 2nd leg]

Record Home Attendance (At Old Trafford): 76,098 31/3/2007 Premier League (Man Utd vs Blackburn) (83,260 for United v Arsenal at Maine Road in 1948)

Record League Appearances: 672 (555 Start, 117 Sub) Ryan Giggs 1990 - 06 May 2014 v Hull City [963 (802 Start, 161 Sub) overall]

Record League Goalscorer: 199 [in 606 league appearances] Sir Bobby Charlton 1956-1973

Record Overall Goalscorer: 253 [in 559 appearances] Wayne Rooney 2004-09 July 2017

Record Transfer Fee Received: 80,000,000 pounds for Cristiano Ronaldo to Real Madrid (July 2009)

Record Transfer Fee Paid: 89,000,000 pounds for Paul Pogba from Juventus (August 2016)


As the world's biggest and richest club, Manchester United reach a global fanbase.

Part of the attraction for fans around the world has been the football luminaries, such as George Best and Sir Bobby Charlton, who have graced the Old Trafford turf in a Manchester United shirt over the years.

Recently, Manchester United have continued to attract or develop some of the game's biggest names, with England stalwarts such as Paul Scholes and David Beckham having been regular fixtures in the Reds line-up.

The Manchester United team, past and present, reads like a who's who of world football.

It is only fitting that a great team should grace a great stadium. And with Old Trafford's recent development and the closure of Wembley, the ground is easily the largest in English football, holding in excess of 60,000 fans.

Despite this capacity, the demand to see United in action is so great that tickets are hard to come by.

But it isn't only Manchester United fans who flock to Old Trafford. The standard of the ground is such that it regularly hosts high-profile games, most notably, the Champions League Final and Great Britain rugby league games.

Rock fans have also made use of the Reds's facilities, watching a number of high-profile acts at the ground.

But it's football that will forever be synonymous with the Reds famous ground - and with good reason.

The last decade has seen Manchester United under the shrewd leadership of Sir Alex Ferguson maintain a virtual stranglehold on the Premiership crown.

Manchester United has won the league no fewer than 18 times in their history. They are also Cup Kings too, winning the FA cup 11 times, the league cup 4 times, as well as winning the European Super Cup, European Cup Winner's Cup, and 3 times being crowned European Cup champions.

Manchester United has long become a name associated with success both on and off the pitch.

As club profits continue to grow, Manchester United have become one of the richest sports clubs on the planet.

With supporters club branches on every continent, it's hard to go any where in the world and not see somebody wearing the famous red shirt of Manchester United.

Manchester United Club Info

Old Trafford

Nickname: The Red Devils

Ground: Old Trafford

Pitch Size: 116 x 76 yards (106.0704 x 69.4944 meter)

Capacity: 76,000

Address: Sir Matt Busby Way, Old Trafford, Manchester

Postcode: M160RA

Directions: From North: Leave the M60 at junction 12 for M602 (Salford / Manchester). At the end of M602 (Jtn 3) follow the signs for Salford Quays and Trafford Park. At the roundabout turn right into Trafford Road (A5063), then at the bridge over Manchester Ship canal, keep in the right hand lane and turn right. Next, follow this road round to Trafford Wharf Road, and then left onto Watersreach. Continue through the traffic lights onto Sir Matt Busby Way.

From South: Leave M6 at junction 19, then take the A56 towards Manchester Airport. Join the M56 to Manchester, going past the Airport and then follow the signs for the M60 (Leeds / Liverpool). Leave M60 at Jtn 7 (A56 Chester Road) following signs for Manchester United Football Club. Turn left into Sir Matt Busby Way.

Ticket prices: 25 pounds upwards, concessions from 12.50 pounds. Tickets for the home sections are usually only available to members of the club and are normally allocated by ballot.

Contact information: Ticket Office: 0161 868 8020
Main Telephone: 0161 868 8000

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QUOTE(zenix @ Nov 24 2009, 09:18 PM)
Hope Alien will sticky this info later.
Though written in 2006 so no Roy Keane yet.

Ex-United players that have moved on to become managers.

Written by Simon Stone (MARCH 22, 2006)

STEVE BRUCE (1987-1996): Took his first steps in management with Sheffield United in 1998, then swiftly moved on to Huddersfield, Wigan and Crystal Palace. Left Selhurst Park in acrimonious fashion after Birmingham targeted him as the replacement for Trevor Francis in 1991. Took Blues into the Premier League but after a heavy FA Cup defeat is struggling to keep his job.

MARTIN POWELL (1971-1983): Stylish and well-respected Scotland centre-half whose authoritative nature appeared to make him a natural for the management game. Lasted four months at Burnley.

SIR BOBBY CHARLTON (1956-1973): Arguably the finest English player of all time proved to be an unmitigated disaster as a manager. Claimed he was not given the resources to make a decent job of it at Preston but was never lured back into management following his departure after a single season.

STEVE COPPELL (1975-1983): After a knee injury cut his playing career short at just 28, Coppell turned his attention to management. Steered Crystal Palace into the FA Cup final and then third place in the old First Division - the Eagles' highest ever - the following season. It was the first of four stints in charge at Selhurst Park in a career which has seen him move to Manchester City (for only six games), Brentford and Brighton. Now at Reading and about to steer the Royals into the top flight for the first time.

PADDY CRERAND (1962-1971): A key figure in United's 1968 European Cup triumph, Crerand lasted five months at Northampton before getting the bullet and, like Charlton, never managed again.

MARK HUGHES (1983-86, 1988-95): Hughes was never tipped as a manager by Ferguson but has taken to the game with ease. Took Wales into the Euro 2004 play-offs. Took over at Blackburn shortly afterwards, steering Rovers away from danger in his first season. Currently in contention for a Champions League spot.

BRIAN KIDD (1967-1974): Another European Cup winner who proved to be a poor manager. Got itchy feet in 1998 after spending seven years as Sir Alex Ferguson's highly-rated assistant. Took command at Blackburn but dismissed six months later.

BRYAN ROBSON (1981-94): United's inspirational leader under Ron Atkinson and Ferguson. There are two schools of thought on his stint at Middlesbrough - he either spent lots and achieved little (relegation and two losing finals) or he laid the platform for the Teessiders to become an established Premiership outfit. Kept West Brom up in extraordinary fashion last year but back in trouble again this season.

GORDON STRACHAN (1984-89): Scotland international who won the FA Cup with United and the title of the pre-Premiership era with Leeds. Sacked after five years at when the Sky Blues lost top-flight status, then enjoyed success at Southampton - reaching the 2003 Cup final - before resigning to spend more time with his family. Now at Celtic, has recovered from a humiliating Champions League exit to Artmedia Bratislava, and, after winning his first trophy on Sunday in the CIS Insurance Cup, is set to clinch the Scottish Premier League.

NOBBY STILES (1960-71): Along with Charlton, one of only two Englishmen to have won the World Cup and European Cup, he replaced his former England and United team-mate at Preston, with limited success. After a brief stint in Vancouver, returned to England to take over as manager of West Brom. Sacked after five months, having gained just three wins.
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Eriksen where are uu
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Finally one signing...
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Malaysia represent Manchester United! Eh Malacia 🤤
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We wait until flowers also fall…
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Waiting FDJ, Malacia, Martinez, Eriksen, Romero standing one line together with our new home kits next week
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Very slow business deals
June was a fruitless month

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QUOTE(and85rew @ Jul 2 2022, 08:51 AM)
Very slow business deals
June was a fruitless month
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Got to admit, yes.

Many players linked to us just wait and see FDJ’s deal, if he is announced “Here We Go” then the rest will come. Eriksen and Martinez maybe thinking the same, who want to come here just to play alongside with McFred? Lol McFred are good as rotation or squad players.
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Jul 2 2022, 09:11 AM)
Got to admit, yes.

Many players linked to us just wait and see FDJ’s deal, if he is announced “Here We Go” then the rest will come. Eriksen and Martinez maybe thinking the same, who want to come here just to play alongside with McFred? Lol McFred are good as rotation or squad players.
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Seems very hard to convince FDJ to come despite ETH is the manager and Barca is in huge financial trouble until that recent deal.

United still unable to clear surplus players due to high wages offered by woodward. Seems this cycle will not break till their contract ends

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QUOTE(and85rew @ Jul 2 2022, 09:24 AM)
Seems very hard to convince FDJ to come despite ETH is the manager and Barca is in huge financial trouble until that recent deal.

United still unable to clear surplus players due to high wages offered by woodward. Seems this cycle will not break till their contract ends
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FDJ basically done deal, 65M agreed, now only discussing the 20M add on clauses. FDJ busy proposing to his gf yo, so maybe next week will discuss the contract with MU, BUT if the personal deal cannot settle, Chelsea will step in for hijacking game. They are monitoring

Barca need to clear off his 275k/week wages to make room for Kessie and Christensen registration

Our deadwood hard to sell off cuz many of them holding huge wages

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Part of our deadwood all high wages due to jogba. He set the ceiling and all want near that
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Jul 2 2022, 12:42 PM)
Part of our deadwood all high wages due to jogba. He set the ceiling and all want near that
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Should be some one name Sanchez
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Jul 2 2022, 12:55 PM)
Should be some one name Sanchez
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Well he earned it right, can play piano for his own promotional video
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It was Alexis that break the ceiling..
Back when Pogba was signed back to United form Juve he was 2nd highest paid behind Rooney..

The following season he was the highest at 290k per week.. after that Alexis came, 350k per week..
Then the following season De Gea renewed his contract for 375k per week..

De Gea remained the highest paid player at United until last season when CR7 took that spot..
Sancho at 3rd for 350k, followed by Varane at 340k..

Is it really Sanchez fault? Not really.. United got the option to refuse, same goes with De Gea contract renewal..
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Jul 2 2022, 12:55 PM)
Should be some one name Sanchez
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Sebab pogba also damn high, so sanchez use that as benchmark to make higher. Then all hairwire liao
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Now news saying Chelsea wanna hijack us on FDJ. Goshh....
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QUOTE(callmecool @ Jul 2 2022, 07:53 PM)
Now news saying Chelsea wanna hijack us on FDJ. Goshh....
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Chelsea are monitoring the situation. €65M already agreed, €20M add on still discussing plus FDJ personal terms not yet finalised
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Can you blame him? But that’ll be 510k off the wages per week.

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tbh honest CR7 leaving will solve a lot of problems for us ....

and we shouldnt have signed him ...

p/s: I'm not gonna deny that he contributed alot last season but he also threw the squad/formation balance off right away ...
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QUOTE(treblecase @ Jul 2 2022, 11:49 PM)
Can you blame him? But that’ll be 510k off the wages per week.

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I doubt its real but come on man ...we talk as if its our own money, we already free up 1 mil a week with all the free transfers out, and now we want to let the biggest commercial name in the game as well as a club icon and arguably the best player from last season to go AND you're ok with it? I rather we overpay for players rather than it going out to the Glazers.
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Probably because he knows that Maguire will keep the armband and United cant match his ambitions..

Hope keep it real and tell all if he leaves..

But the best lol of the day, United fans worrying about money spent on wages.. Glazers must be lovin it
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Cant even sign a midfielder after 1month nego..... If Ronaldo leave now, which striker to sign? Nego again 1 month ? Got budget or not...
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QUOTE(ahbenggay @ Jul 3 2022, 02:08 AM)
lol. mate. you're a joke. you cant compete with people and you blame everyone but yourself.

Ronaldo 1st came in was nothing but he work hard.

You're just like Maguire , Pogba toxic parasite of the club.
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What’s wrong with you? Name calling me for just stating my opinion?

It’s widely known we sign Ronaldo not to improve our squad but to prevent City from signing him

Then Ole or the team has to accommodate to his playstyle (although it may not suitable to the team).

You play him then ppl gonna question his work rate despite the goals he bring (cue City and Liv for the modern pressing game)

If you don’t play him then manager will be bombarded by the media

A world class square peg (Ronaldo in this case) may not be the best answer for ppl who has round holes.

Fans who don’t acknowledge bout this issue is no better than fans who speak out since you’re just allowing the “rot” to continue with all questionable decisions

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Barca President is extremely selfish and respecting no one.

He is basically disrespecting 2 clubs that are doing business with them, and both players involved as well.

FDJ deal is almost done, but he is denying.
Stating he want to stay.
In the end, when FDJ come, it will certainly bring bad image.

Rapinha deal is extremely far from being done.
Leeds even already claimed they only accept Chelsea offers for now, but he still claims the player himself wanna go Barca.
In the end, if the player go to Chelsea, will bring bag image as well.

For me, he is another Raiola.
Sorry but not sorry.

Asking players to reduce wages, not paying some more.
Respecting no one, say whatever he wanna say just for own benefits.
I have respect toward Barca in Messi, Xavi, Iniesta era.
Not now, certainly not.

With this president, I think they are on the road from being one of the most respected club, to one of the most hated club in no time.

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if the goat want to leave, then let him go.
lets rebuild with maguire
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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Jul 3 2022, 02:38 AM)
What’s wrong with you? Name calling me for just stating my opinion?

It’s widely known we sign Ronaldo not to improve our squad but to prevent City from signing him

Then Ole or the team has to accommodate to his playstyle (although it may not suitable to the team).

You play him then ppl gonna question his work rate despite the goals he bring (cue City and Liv for the modern pressing game)

If you don’t play him then manager will be bombarded by the media

A world class square peg (Ronaldo in this case) may not be the best answer for ppl who has round holes.

Fans who don’t acknowledge bout this issue is no better than fans who speak out since you’re just allowing the “rot” to continue with all questionable decisions
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I dont even know where or how to start judging how delusional you're.

But let's just say you're right.

My bad for calling you toxic.

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Hail to Glazer, for the past 6 years Glazer took $134 MILLION POUND and the debt remains around $500 MILLION POUND

Well Done Glazer, FDJ might not come to United, Ronaldo wanted to leave. This is getting ridiculous
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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Jul 3 2022, 02:38 AM)
What’s wrong with you? Name calling me for just stating my opinion?

It’s widely known we sign Ronaldo not to improve our squad but to prevent City from signing him

Then Ole or the team has to accommodate to his playstyle (although it may not suitable to the team).

You play him then ppl gonna question his work rate despite the goals he bring (cue City and Liv for the modern pressing game)

If you don’t play him then manager will be bombarded by the media

A world class square peg (Ronaldo in this case) may not be the best answer for ppl who has round holes.

Fans who don’t acknowledge bout this issue is no better than fans who speak out since you’re just allowing the “rot” to continue with all questionable decisions
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Ole is not setting the team to accommodate Ronaldo, the team is shit from the beginning. No top striker is able to play with this team not even Lewandowski, Haaland on that shit team


Counterattack with 6 players at the back to cover The Maguire of Fridge slow pace and hoping Ronaldo to do magic week in and week out.


No ball deliver to him, he needs to go way back at defender in order to collect the ball up front


Those Mc Fred are clueless getting play week in and week out while the decent player like VDB is on the bench for almost a whole season


If want to talk about 2nd place of Ole, liverpool no Van Dijk for almost a whole season and Spurs with an injury crisis, Chelsea is under Lampard and United at that time no injury crisis.






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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Jul 3 2022, 02:38 AM)
What’s wrong with you? Name calling me for just stating my opinion?

It’s widely known we sign Ronaldo not to improve our squad but to prevent City from signing him

Then Ole or the team has to accommodate to his playstyle (although it may not suitable to the team).

You play him then ppl gonna question his work rate despite the goals he bring (cue City and Liv for the modern pressing game)

If you don’t play him then manager will be bombarded by the media

A world class square peg (Ronaldo in this case) may not be the best answer for ppl who has round holes.

Fans who don’t acknowledge bout this issue is no better than fans who speak out since you’re just allowing the “rot” to continue with all questionable decisions
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Half true, bcoz towards end of the 2020/2021 season, opponents started to find out United tactics (counter and hope for player magic moments?)

If you're talking about pressing, CR press more than Rashford. Real or Benzema did not press that hard but they won league and CL.

Ole just get lucky 2nd due to Tottenham/Chelsea/Liverpool/Arsenal have issues (injuries/manager changes). After VAR and rules change, Bruno become more average and keep on whining/losing balls.
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They started to demonize CR7 now.. saying he destroyed Ole-ball..
Lol still clinging on to the worst Cardiff manager ever..
The best goal scorer in the world with 32 trophies was bad signing for United?..

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Wth, cr7 leave means he either see eth sux after training or no hope with board transfer. Now fdj deal not moving. Really shitty board.
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All I know is we have a top dog transfer negotiator / director of football that has been working 6-10 (we could have heard wrongly, it maybe only 4 hours per day), 16 hours a day sign ETH’s by now magical and mythical transfer list. By this we have managed to spend a stupendous €15M!

The entire French league is quaking at our ability to hijack deals, provided it is cheap enough in the first place. Everyone and anyone cannot make a transfer bid without MUFC adding €1 and topping them.

So eventually, we will have won the league by spending soo little, going the way of Leicester rather than Liverpool or MC (shame on them for spending, shame on SAF for spending to win).

All we have to do now is wait 2 seasons for Barca’s deluded president to decide / remember / conclude that they actually want to sell a critical player we may or may not need, for a price they for sure do not apparently need, who says that he was already playing for his boyhood dream team and never intended to leave at the first place.
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If you guys think CR7 is wrong to attempt to force us into transfer activity, remember that when he came back he found even the swimming pool of The biggest team on earth to be worst than when he left 10+ years ago. Only by threatening and complaining that they eventually raised some funds (maybe crowd sourced) to fix it so that he can get back to maintaining his fitness, so that he actually scored 28 goals….

If we didn’t have Cristiano last year we would’ve been stuck in bottom 10. Not that it mattered but whole season I only remember his solo goals and screamers as sweet memories. Don’t ever bash the real GOAT.
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Jul 3 2022, 11:12 AM)
They started to demonize CR7 now.. saying he destroyed Ole-ball..
Lol still clinging on to the worst Cardiff manager ever..
The best goal scorer in the world with 32 trophies was bad signing for United?..
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Not sure if you're referring to me (since I nvr bash CR7 for wanting to leave, merely stating that if he leaves it solves some existing problems/dilemma for the team) but here's my additional comment:

a world class player can be a bad signing ... if it disrupt the team's balance or doesn't really fit into a manager's philosophy or gameplay

Reports said that Ole nvr wanted to sign CR7 and it was the management/Woodward/SAF who bought him because they cant bear to see CR7 signed for the noisy neighbour.

Also, in the past I've always called out many times regarding Ole's capability (especially after the Europa Final).

Besides, RR also said that he has to tweaked the formation to accommodate Ronaldo since Ronaldo doesn't want play alone on top.

My stand is ... if he stays, good for the team since he is a serial winner + high standard with strong mentality and hunger (will be good role model for the youngster and new signings)

but if he wanna leave, let him go because:-

1) his heart is no longer here (and keeping unhappy player of his status can disrupt the dressing room harmony)

2) he is already old and we should really play with younger players for the future with rebuilding in mind

3) it can potentially gives more flexibility for the manager in tactics (again like I mentioned in my previous post that media gonna have a fun day questioning the manager if Ronaldo is dropped or substituted with excessive scrutiny)

4) frees up the wages


Club is always bigger than a player ... and I don't pretend that signing Ronaldo last season is all good without any disadvantages/flaws in bigger picture

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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Jul 3 2022, 11:38 AM)
Not sure if you're referring to me (since I nvr bash CR7 for wanting to leave, merely stating that if he leaves it solves some existing problems/dilemma for the team) but here's my additional comment:

a world class player can be a bad signing ... if it disrupt the team's balance or doesn't really fit into a manager's philosophy or gameplay

RR once said that he has to tweaked the formation to accommodate Ronaldo since Ronaldo doesn't want play alone on top.

Also, in the past I've always called out many times regarding Ole's capability (especially after the Europa Final)

My stand is ... if he stays, good for the team since he is a serial winner + high standard with strong mentality and hunger (will be good role model for the youngster and new signings)

but if he wanna leave, let him go because:-

1) his heart is no longer here (and keeping unhappy player of his status can disrupt the dressing room harmony)
2) he is already old and we should really play with younger players for the future with rebuilding in mind
3) it can potentially gives more flexibility for the manager in tactics (again like I mentioned in my previous post that media gonna have a fun day questioning the manager if Ronaldo is dropped or substituted with excessive scrutiny)
4) frees up the wages
Club is always bigger than a player ... and I don't pretend that signing Ronaldo last season is all good without any disadvantages/flaws in bigger picture
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It is fine and fair to debate, but think 3x, last season if we didn’t sign CR7, we would’ve have been playing with Masial and waiting for Cavani’s shadow to appear. Confirm we will be knee deep.

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It is fine and fair to debate, but think 3x, last season if we didn’t sign CR7, we would’ve have been playing with Masial and waiting for Cavani’s shadow to appear. Confirm we will be knee deep.
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to be honest, if it's not for Greenwood's case, we would not be so barebone on top ..

but last season is gone, and we really should look forward now

we all have sentimental feelings towards CR7 if you've been a fan since then (I started following Man Utd since RvN era), but rationally we shouldn't really rely on 37 years old to carry us and use him sparringly (if he stays)

but we all know Ronaldo really focus alot on personal records and trophies (which smtg that the current Man Utd cant give now)
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Jul 3 2022, 11:25 AM)
Wth, cr7 leave means he either see eth sux after training or no hope with board transfer. Now fdj deal not moving. Really shitty board.
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Half of it. They can sack all the Woodward’s macai and restore new people like Richard Arnold, Murtough to take charge but when you see the hierarchy, something was missing. Under DoF John Murtough, there is nobody. ETH can give him the list and Murtough will do all the negotiations but he alone certainly not enough. He should have a team under him, negotiators, football lawyers etc that help him thru all the transfer dealing but I can’t see any.

I can feel Ronaldo’s situation, he knows what is lacking in the team. Will he still want to play with the likes of Maguire, McFred and AWB without any new joiner?
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CR7 is said to actually like ETH.
CR7 is not happy with the lack of transfers and the club is not pushing to build a competitive team for the coming season. He doesn't want to waste his remaining years playing in a team that has no hope of any trophies. He is disappointed with Manchester United's club performance in the rebuild.

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https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/4693951/b...-jong-president

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bodoh transfer team too slow to sign fdj....now suddenly barca dont want to sell..🤦
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QUOTE(skystrike @ Jul 3 2022, 12:41 PM)
bodoh transfer team too slow to sign fdj....now suddenly barca dont want to sell..🤦
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Either barca trying to jack up price or they are ok after that 200m boost

Once they got 200m boost, the transfer stance will change. They are not desperate prior to that 200m deal.

If United add up another 10-20m upfront, blame the transfer team.
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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Jul 3 2022, 11:33 AM)
All I know is we have a top dog transfer negotiator / director of football that has been working 6-10 (we could have heard wrongly, it maybe only 4 hours per day), 16 hours a day sign ETH’s by now magical and mythical transfer list. By this we have managed to spend a stupendous €15M!

The entire French league is quaking at our ability to hijack deals, provided it is cheap enough in the first place. Everyone and anyone cannot make a transfer bid without MUFC adding €1 and topping them.

So eventually, we will have won the league by spending soo little, going the way of Leicester rather than Liverpool or MC (shame on them for spending, shame on SAF for spending to win).

All we have to do now is wait 2 seasons for Barca’s deluded president to decide / remember / conclude that they actually want to sell a critical player we may or may not need, for a price they for sure do not apparently need, who says that he was already playing for his boyhood dream team and never intended to leave at the first place.
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Sure got team under him la. Impossible only 1 ppl working. Just that those names maybe clocking 9-6 job ppl
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Jul 3 2022, 12:58 PM)
Sure got team under him la. Impossible only 1 ppl working. Just that those names maybe clocking 9-6 job ppl
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Of course, it takes a team of people to sit around and wait for deals to done by others and then we just need to wait until other people submit some proposals, then we just up the bid.

May I ask, really, what on earth are this wonderful top crack team doing other than wait for others to act? Ethan hunt would’ve stolen FDJ’s registration papers by now. Honestly I am still ashamed by our handling of Sancho. And have been taken to school on this, losing time AND money in the process.

If you all tell me this is the best team / big boys / top money baller, then I also dunno what pipe we all smoking from.

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Our club is a mess. Players sux, transfer team sux, board sux, coach sux, facilities sux. Everything need change
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QUOTE(and85rew @ Jul 3 2022, 12:53 PM)
Either barca trying to jack up price or they are ok after that 200m boost

Once they got 200m boost, the transfer stance will change. They are not desperate prior to that 200m deal.

If United add up another 10-20m upfront, blame the transfer team.
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Even if they have 1B transfer budget still they need to sell. It’s the salary cap that set by La Liga. They still can buy Neymar, Lewan, Silva, Raphinha or even re sign Messi in one transfer window, they got no room for salary gap
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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Jul 3 2022, 11:49 AM)
to be honest, if it's not for Greenwood's case, we would not be so barebone on top ..

but last season is gone, and we really should look forward now

we all have sentimental feelings towards CR7 if you've been a fan since then (I started following Man Utd since RvN era), but rationally we shouldn't really rely on 37 years old to carry us and use him sparringly (if he stays)

but we all know Ronaldo really focus alot on personal records and trophies (which smtg that the current Man Utd cant give now)
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So many buts and ifs. If only Cavani was not a homesick boy, if only he was even half as fit as the other old man Ronaldo.
But no, greenwood managed to derail his own career by focusing on allegedly raping his own girlfriend. Why can’t even have the decency to propose a marriage and do it like a responsible man?
No, Greenwood was playing at the start of the season and we all saw his star waned way before his case got any mention. Any player who is focused on allegedly raping his girlfriend would not be a great player or even a half decent one eventually.
Not at all MU’s fault but leaves us with our pants down in front had we not had CR7.

We could’ve signed someone better no doubt, but to say he is the source of our troubles or causing trouble for anyone (poor RR, lost his job because he had the best striker ever to manage…such a horrible job he had) is hands down a lousy way to thank Cristiano for single handedly carrying us last season.

I agree not to be a old folks home, and live on sentimentality alone. But it is a damn fact that last year he was by a long mile our top player and not even too frequently injured. He should be used sparingly, yes but not treated sparingly. He should be given ear and fully respected. How often has he actually complained about club management ? Way less than the other Argentine goat for sure. How much he can play should be managed by listening to him and his physical condition. It is my way of saying every time he puts on the shirt I have never felt let down, so much as I see any other player when they wear the shirt. When it is time for him to finally decide to down tools and sip pina colada, that is the time we let allow him to do it and not show him the door a day too soon.
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Jul 3 2022, 02:06 PM)
Even if they have 1B transfer budget still they need to sell. It’s the salary cap that set by La Liga. They still can buy Neymar, Lewan, Silva, Raphinha or even re sign Messi in one transfer window, they got no room for salary gap
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Depends on the financial period
They can spend up to a portion depending on income
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Opened football news portal... Our season seems to be over before it even started. Barca now saying not gonna sell FDJ, Ronaldo wanna leave, Antony too expensive to buy, the other 2 defenders Malacia and Martinez till now can't see shadows in Manchester also. At the same time, we actually not able to sell even a single player. SIGHHHHH. What the hell is going on with the management there..
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QUOTE(callmecool @ Jul 3 2022, 03:43 PM)
Opened football news portal... Our season seems to be over before it even started. Barca now saying not gonna sell FDJ, Ronaldo wanna leave, Antony too expensive to buy, the other 2 defenders Malacia and Martinez till now can't see shadows in Manchester also. At the same time, we actually not able to sell even a single player. SIGHHHHH. What the hell is going on with the management there..
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Add..our fringe players on high wages and hard to offload them
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QUOTE(callmecool @ Jul 3 2022, 03:43 PM)
Opened football news portal... Our season seems to be over before it even started. Barca now saying not gonna sell FDJ, Ronaldo wanna leave, Antony too expensive to buy, the other 2 defenders Malacia and Martinez till now can't see shadows in Manchester also. At the same time, we actually not able to sell even a single player. SIGHHHHH. What the hell is going on with the management there..
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Malacia flying to Manchester for first round medical today and tmr will going thru second level medical and reveal as first signing

Martinez, Ajax now want straight cash €50M

FDJ, that’s typical Laporta comment, remembered “we will keep Messi” comment? Ended up Messi was free and he joined PSG. And remembered 2002 when he ran for president seat? He said he will signed Beckham once he become president but that time we all know, he himself also know Beckham joining RM

For once I want to see Barca really went into liquidation and force to sell off all the players.

I always believe the final 20M add on discussion still on but it’s a bit hard, not as easy as few click at FM. Laporta just a dick trying to stir things up

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confident FDJ and Martinez will sign.

jus wanna see who will replace Ronaldo up top
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Jul 3 2022, 06:19 PM)
confident FDJ and Martinez will sign.

jus wanna see who will replace Ronaldo up top
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Always no doubt on FDJ, Laporta is an arse, not first time he did this kind of public stunt

I’m guessing the arrival of FDJ and Martinez will make Ronaldo to reconsider his departure.

If no then can consider Anthony again LOL

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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Jul 3 2022, 11:38 AM)
Not sure if you're referring to me (since I nvr bash CR7 for wanting to leave, merely stating that if he leaves it solves some existing problems/dilemma for the team) but here's my additional comment:

a world class player can be a bad signing ... if it disrupt the team's balance or doesn't really fit into a manager's philosophy or gameplay

Reports said that Ole nvr wanted to sign CR7 and it was the management/Woodward/SAF who bought him because they cant bear to see CR7 signed for the noisy neighbour.

Also, in the past I've always called out many times regarding Ole's capability (especially after the Europa Final).

Besides, RR also said that he has to tweaked the formation to accommodate Ronaldo since Ronaldo doesn't want play alone on top.

My stand is ... if he stays, good for the team since he is a serial winner + high standard with strong mentality and hunger (will be good role model for the youngster and new signings)

but if he wanna leave, let him go because:-

1) his heart is no longer here (and keeping unhappy player of his status can disrupt the dressing room harmony)

2) he is already old and we should really play with younger players for the future with rebuilding in mind

3) it can potentially gives more flexibility for the manager in tactics (again like I mentioned in my previous post that media gonna have a fun day questioning the manager if Ronaldo is dropped or substituted with excessive scrutiny)

4) frees up the wages
Club is always bigger than a player ... and I don't pretend that signing Ronaldo last season is all good without any disadvantages/flaws in bigger picture
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1. I do not know about his heart, never knew him personally..
But theres a reason why he wanted to leave, because United looking like dont have any ambition to win..
United did not do the actions of a club that hungry and want to be on top winning tophies..

2. Old doesnt mean that he is no longer a threat to the opponents..
There were few times he bailed United out last season in the CL..
Without his individual brilliance moments and goals, United could've been out druing the group stage..
This play young players for the future stuff.. future of what? winning trophies or competing for Europa League spot or top 10?
None of united young players are good enough.. the last one were class of 92..
Should United wait until they failed like Wellbeck, Eagles, Chadwick, Gibson, Cleverley, Januzaj, etc?

3. Ronaldo removes the tactical flexibility of the manager? yeah, for a mediocre ones like the worst manager ever for Cardiff City, Ole..
Any top manager in the world would want him in their team, Pep wanted him..
United manager should be able to handle the immense pressure that comes with the job.. they paid highly to do it..
Scrutiny from the media and public is a normal thing for a manager of a big club like United..
Why wanna shield and cuddle a grown ass man that get paid to do his high profile job?

4. United making average of 500m per season, wage is not an issue.. in fact they get more money with CR7 around

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CR7 actually won us many games last season. Btw, FDJ transfer dragging again..aduh...
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Does anyone at all think that we are being played by Barca? It’s like Laporta just threatening FDJ with being sold if he doesn’t want to resign a lower salary contract?
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Does anyone at all think that we are being played by Barca? It’s like Laporta just threatening FDJ with being sold if he doesn’t want to resign a lower salary contract?
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Laporta was a politician bro. The way he suddenly said that it’s part of his plan, it’s simple:

1. If FDJ join us, he can put the blame on FDJ by not reduce his salary

2. If FDJ reduce the salary, he will be hero

Both way he also a winner. To keep the fans happy and get more support, for future re election as president.

If Barca played us, why need to nego nego at the first place? Can straight said “nope, FDJ is not for sale”, they already know FDJ salary gap is very important for them to register Kessie, Christensen, Alonso (?), Raphinha (?)

Remembered Messi? Remembered Emerson?
He said he will do his best to keep Messi, did he? Ended up Messi joined PSG
He said Emerson was here to stay after signing new contract, 2 weeks later, he joined Spurs
Look back 2002 when he ran for president, his main manifesto was to sign Beckham when he get elected but that time Beckham already on his way to RM

I don’t trusted things coming out from Laporta, his political skills are same level like our own politicians

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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Jul 3 2022, 11:58 PM)
Laporta was a politician bro. The way he suddenly said that it’s part of his plan, it’s simple:

1. If FDJ join us, he can put the blame on FDJ by not reduce his salary

2. If FDJ reduce the salary, he will be hero

Both way he also a winner. To keep the fans happy and get more support, for future re election as president.

If Barca played us, why need to nego nego at the first place? Can straight said “nope, FDJ is not for sale”, they already know FDJ salary gap is very important for them to register Kessie, Christensen, Alonso (?), Raphinha (?)

Remembered Messi? Remembered Emerson?
He said he will do his best to keep Messi, did he? Ended up Messi joined PSG
He said Emerson was here to stay after signing new contract, 2 weeks later, he joined Spurs
Look back 2002 when he ran for president, his main manifesto was to sign Beckham when he get elected but that time Beckham already on his way to RM

I don’t trusted things coming out from Laporta, his political skills are same level like our own politicians
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The same way as we ended up not getting Fabregas from Barcelona. Same as how Dembele is still at Barca too. Yes, they need to trim their salary bills. But perhaps using another club is a good idea to deliver this. I have an inkling that our noob transfer team is being taken for a ride, and ETH may have been too damn naive to only focus on 1 name.
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Jul 3 2022, 04:39 PM)
Malacia flying to Manchester for first round medical today and tmr will going thru second level medical and reveal as first signing

Martinez, Ajax now want straight cash €50M

FDJ, that’s typical Laporta comment, remembered “we will keep Messi” comment? Ended up Messi was free and he joined PSG. And remembered 2002 when he ran for president seat? He said he will signed Beckham once he become president but that time we all know, he himself also know Beckham joining RM

For once I want to see Barca really went into liquidation and force to sell off all the players.

I always believe the final 20M add on discussion still on but it’s a bit hard, not as easy as few click at FM. Laporta just a dick trying to stir things up
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Then i really hope Barca go bust. Can't wait to see them sell off Pedri and Ansu Fati. Probably their last two valuable players besides FDJ...
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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Jul 3 2022, 11:36 PM)
Does anyone at all think that we are being played by Barca? It’s like Laporta just threatening FDJ with being sold if he doesn’t want to resign a lower salary contract?
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simple answer is - yes.

FDj saga will dragged and end up we got nothing. yes, we can still sign FDJ but not in this transfer window. ETH is stubbon which is good. so yeah, all out for FDJ and if we got nothing then just rebuild with mcfred and magelof , and without cristiano.

let ETh proof himself with this $hit team. give him a chance by supporting him until he got sacked by his own fans because he forced to play OLE ball.
OLE ball really fit this $hit team. play deep and counter. rashford can be our top scorer again. trust me. thumbsup.gif

without pogba, without matic, without cristiano, without greenwood laugh.gif laugh.gif

its going to be amazing season.

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another day, another no FDJ day yet... lol.... and one mini signing which cant even make ronaldo stays... lol... martinez just pay ajax what they want la... 10mil to a club like man utd is small piece of cake saje... unless we wanna use the 10mil to sign another lesser known star... ronaldo 500k a week wage shud be able to get someone else for us... but then the good scoring stikers nowadays... limited edition... maybe can try belloti... younger good ones... the market doesnt seems like alot options...
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did CR7 actually make the team worse?

the team didnt even play proper football the season before he come. just manage by getting the results huff and puff style by bruno and penalties. ole is just riding some good luck in terms of results via bruno and penalties.

since he joined, he actually become the top scorer by getting less chance than maguire with the ball forward.

eth deadline for signing is by 8 july.. today 4th already keks
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Ain't even mad that CR7 wants to leave. He only has probably about 2-3 more season left in him for him to gun for personal glory, and to be fair, Man Utd is not that place for him, unless he wants to hang around as an advisor + player to the squad.
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board will fire him when we turn against the team (due to bad results)...and blame him for poor performance.

Then only 5 years later when NDA expire will he come out and say the board failed (again) to get his targets. [This is already happened, with Mou, LVG, even Moyes]

In the end, if we want him to stick around we have to stay quiet like sheep, then accept whatever the crap that is being dished out to us week in week out. Top 4 celebrate like mad.

Its like getting a world class conductor and but all your musicians are 2nd rate.
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With this kind of transfer, ETH is bound to fail...

Unless under ETH magic existing players suddenly transformed and become good players, if not...

You know, if total demise is what it take for Glazers to let go of Man Utd, then so be it...The only silver lining if we don't do well later...
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QUOTE(tontolou @ Jul 4 2022, 11:28 AM)
Ain't even mad that CR7 wants to leave. He only has probably about 2-3 more season left in him for him to gun for personal glory, and to be fair, Man Utd is not that place for him, unless he wants to hang around as an advisor + player to the squad.
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Just disappointed. Who can mad and blame him if he leave. We don't have proper environment for him to thrive. And already wasted a season with us.

But if he remained, then really salute. Macam buffon stick to juve when relegated.
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The world and United best player opened the door for the manager and other players to speak out dissatisfaction on United's lack of ambition..

None of them come out.. looks like all of them ok with how things going on.. ETH looking like just another puppet..

CR7 the only one with winning mentality.. real winners like him dont wanna stick around with losers..
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Jul 4 2022, 02:29 PM)
The world and United best player opened the door for the manager and other players to speak out dissatisfaction on United's lack of ambition..

None of them come out.. looks like all of them ok with how things going on.. ETH looking like just another puppet..

CR7 the only one with winning mentality.. real winners like him dont wanna stick around with losers..
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well they can accuse CR of being too ambitious
but at the same time little done when United paid dividend to Glazers yearly
save fund for what? to pay more to the glazers?
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QUOTE(and85rew @ Jul 4 2022, 02:34 PM)
well they can accuse CR of being too ambitious
but at the same time little done when United paid dividend to Glazers yearly
save fund for what? to pay more to the glazers?
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The fans also the same..

When CR7 press on the field: oh he's 37 cannot press for 90min

When CR7 press the board: oh he's 37 not for rebuilding

Glazers truly lucky to get this club..
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Personally, I'll not lose any sleep if Ronaldo leaving, but I hope he will not go to PL rival. Chelsea often get it wrong when it come to striker these days, Ronaldo will improve them tremendously.

There are pro and con, and I wish the best outcome for him and us. I hope he go to Bayern Munich, just to prove he's absolutely the best. I'll be happy too if he stay.
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Ronaldo news really weird, he said he wanted to play UCL. He already knew that MU another going to play UCL during April and he really really want to play for UCL, he could have request to leave when EPL ended in May, why now only said want to play UCL football? Now no matter how he wants also UEFA can’t squeeze a place for us. He knew that early.

Now 3 teams interested on him:

1. Napoli - really? Serious? They can provide him UCL football but Napoli will never be Serie A contender this season, the Milans and Juve are teams to beat

2. Chelsea - UCL football but can feed him EPL cuz City by far still the best team in EPL now. Join Chelsea will just tainted his image as MU “legend”

3. Bayern - very possible considering direct replacement for Lewan if he is leaving for Barca. UCL football, one of the fav, Bundesliga guarantee winner.


If we able to sign FDJ, Martinez, Eriksen with confirmed arrival of Malacia and possible Pau if we have extra cash, this maybe, probably can make Ronaldo to stay.

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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Jul 4 2022, 03:44 PM)
Ronaldo news really weird, he said he wanted to play UCL. He already knew that MU another going to play UCL during April and he really really want to play for UCL, he could have request to leave when EPL ended in May, why now only said want to play UCL football? Now no matter how he wants also UEFA can’t squeeze a place for us. He knew that early.

Now 3 teams interested on him:

1. Napoli - really? Serious? They can provide him UCL football but Napoli will never be Serie A contender this season, the Milans and Juve are teams to beat

2. Chelsea - UCL football but can feed him EPL cuz City by far still the best team in EPL now. Join Chelsea will just tainted his image as MU “legend”

3. Bayern - very possible considering direct replacement for Lewan if he is leaving for Barca. UCL football, one of the fav, Bundesliga guarantee winner.
If we able to sign FDJ, Martinez, Eriksen with confirmed arrival of Malacia and possible Pau if we have extra cash, this maybe, probably can make Ronaldo to stay.
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Jul 4 2022, 03:44 PM)
Ronaldo news really weird, he said he wanted to play UCL. He already knew that MU another going to play UCL during April and he really really want to play for UCL, he could have request to leave when EPL ended in May, why now only said want to play UCL football? Now no matter how he wants also UEFA can’t squeeze a place for us. He knew that early.

Now 3 teams interested on him:

1. Napoli - really? Serious? They can provide him UCL football but Napoli will never be Serie A contender this season, the Milans and Juve are teams to beat

2. Chelsea - UCL football but can feed him EPL cuz City by far still the best team in EPL now. Join Chelsea will just tainted his image as MU “legend”

3. Bayern - very possible considering direct replacement for Lewan if he is leaving for Barca. UCL football, one of the fav, Bundesliga guarantee winner.
If we able to sign FDJ, Martinez, Eriksen with confirmed arrival of Malacia and possible Pau if we have extra cash, this maybe, probably can make Ronaldo to stay.
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Players nowadays have PR team to maintain image while having agent working in the background …

When news are broken, it’s usually a power move from the player to force the club

It’s normal these days and don’t even once fully accept the reasons given
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PR moves on demonizing CR7 in full force now..
Allowing Glazers escape the spotlight of scrutiny again..
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PR moves on demonizing CR7 in full force now..
Allowing Glazers escape the spotlight of scrutiny again..
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lol biar je la... takkan u expect the fans go burn the club stadium just to show them whose fault on why ronaldo wanna leave... haha
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CR7 is well within his rights to move. The club hasn't exactly strengthened in the summer transfer window so far while our rivals have. CR7 will continue to be one of the best performing players in a mediocre team and that doesn't look to be changing in the footballing side. Mediocre teams do not win anything.

He has kept his side of the bargain with the performances he put in. Manchester United has not met expectations with him, nor the fans.

Wherever he goes, if he does, I'll keep an eye out for that team to watch their games.

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Have not seen many ppl demonise CR7 for wanting to leave

General consensus is if he wants to leave, let him go and dont “imprison” him

However, some ppl just wanna stick labels onto fans who agree with the club to sell CR7 (if the club wanna sell)

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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Jul 4 2022, 05:59 PM)
lol biar je la... takkan u expect the fans go burn the club stadium just to show them whose fault on why ronaldo wanna leave... haha
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Should be he same level of response towards ESL..
The amount of power if the fans and ETH on CR7 side, can force the Glazers to spend..

Missed opportunity again.. oh well
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Jul 4 2022, 03:44 PM)
Ronaldo news really weird, he said he wanted to play UCL. He already knew that MU another going to play UCL during April and he really really want to play for UCL, he could have request to leave when EPL ended in May, why now only said want to play UCL football? Now no matter how he wants also UEFA can’t squeeze a place for us. He knew that early.

Now 3 teams interested on him:

1. Napoli - really? Serious? They can provide him UCL football but Napoli will never be Serie A contender this season, the Milans and Juve are teams to beat

2. Chelsea - UCL football but can feed him EPL cuz City by far still the best team in EPL now. Join Chelsea will just tainted his image as MU “legend”

3. Bayern - very possible considering direct replacement for Lewan if he is leaving for Barca. UCL football, one of the fav, Bundesliga guarantee winner.
If we able to sign FDJ, Martinez, Eriksen with confirmed arrival of Malacia and possible Pau if we have extra cash, this maybe, probably can make Ronaldo to stay.
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Cincai say only, takkan say, I pretty sure will be trophiless season again.

If he go, I hope he go bayern or psg. Then can win another country league title.

If chronology rumour correct, he say will stay if eth wants him. Eth wants him obviously. Now dunwan stay, very obvious he disappointed with team transfers.

If we get 4-5 new players, maybe he will stay

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However, reports on Monday claimed that it was United that considered Ronaldo's future earlier this year.

According to The Athletic, former interim manager Ralf Rangnick wanted to sell Ronaldo during the January transfer window as the forward was hindering what he was trying to implement at the club: a high-pressing side.

Rangnick reportedly asked football director John Murtough and chief executive officer Richard Arnold, via several emails and messages, to consider selling the Portuguese superstar as he felt convinced the No 7 wasn't a part of the club's long-term plans.


Noob. Tak tau manage, kasi jual aje. Bring all kids play sure got energy gen gen
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Jul 4 2022, 06:34 PM)
However, reports on Monday claimed that it was United that considered Ronaldo's future earlier this year.

According to The Athletic, former interim manager Ralf Rangnick wanted to sell Ronaldo during the January transfer window as the forward was hindering what he was trying to implement at the club: a high-pressing side.

Rangnick reportedly asked football director John Murtough and chief executive officer Richard Arnold, via several emails and messages, to consider selling the Portuguese superstar as he felt convinced the No 7 wasn't a part of the club's long-term plans.
Noob. Tak tau manage, kasi jual aje. Bring all kids play sure got energy gen gen
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Based on statistics
RR or United lost more w/o CR
Keep on faith with Rashford? If he failed this season, confirm Welbeck 2.0..something which is dubious due to his activist commitment

With Cristiano Ronaldo starting
Games: 35
Wins: 17
Draws: 7
Defeats: 11

Points per game: 1.65
Win rate: 48.5%
Loss rate: 31.4%

Goals: 55
Goals per game: 1.57
Goals against: 50
Goals against per game: 1.42

Without Cristiano Ronaldo starting
Games: 14
Wins: 3
Draws: 7
Defeats: 4

Points per game: 1.14
Win rate: 21.4%
Loss rate: 28.5%

Goals: 16
Goals per game: 1.14
Goals against: 19
Goals against per game: 1.35

https://www.planetfootball.com/quick-reads/...ldo-in-2021-22/

So who is the problem? Ralf? With that headless pressing? Towards end of RR era..it is as bad as Ole era

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skysports & espn reports that eriksen set to join MU..legit?

update news...fabrizio romano already said here we go..... confirmed already...

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QUOTE(skystrike @ Jul 4 2022, 07:32 PM)
skysports & espn reports that eriksen set to join MU..legit?

update news...fabrizio romano already said here we go..... confirmed already...
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His Here We Go on Malacia to Lyon already failed once


Let’s hope it’s true this time
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QUOTE(and85rew @ Jul 4 2022, 06:53 PM)
Keep on faith with Rashford? If he failed this season, confirm Welbeck 2.0..something which is dubious due to his activist commitment
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Ahh, Rashford being Welbeck 2.0.
Here are the numbers :

Marcus Rashford. Club career 303 appearances. 93 goals.
International 46 appearances 12 goals.

Danny Welbeck. Club career 375 appearances. 84 goals.
International 42 appearances 16 goals.


Not such a big difference between the two.
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as long as we don't play Eriksen like Mata (play in RW when he is CAM), he should be a very good signing
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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Jul 4 2022, 08:08 PM)
as long as we don't play Eriksen like Mata (play in RW when he is CAM), he should be a very good signing
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Eriksen functions in Bruno's role. In trying to accommodate both, one might be used out of formation.
Unless Ten Hag tries to do Ancelotti's famous Christmas tree formation of dual CAMs from AC Milan.

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QUOTE(natx001 @ Jul 4 2022, 07:48 PM)
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Already on soccernet bro

https://www.espn.com/soccer/soccer-transfer...-united-sources

Christian Eriksen agrees three-year deal with Man United - sources

Christian Eriksen has agreed to join Manchester United, sources have told ESPN.

The midfielder, who is a free agent, is set to sign a three-year deal once a medical is completed.

The 30-year-old spent the second half of last season at Brentford where he scored once in 11 games. He has turned down the chance to re-sign for Brentford to move to Old Trafford.

Tottenham also lodged an interest in Eriksen but after Antonio Conte stepped back from a deal, United were able to swoop in.

Eriksen is set to become Erik ten Hag's second signing of the summer after the capture of 22-year-old Netherlands left-back Tyrell Malacia from Feyenoord.

It is the latest step in a remarkable comeback for Eriksen, who suffered a cardiac arrest playing for Denmark at last summer's European Championship.

His contract at Inter Milan was officially terminated in December 2021 and he signed from Brentford as a free agent in January 2022.

He was instrumental in helping Brentford finish 13th in the Premier League in their first season in the top flight following promotion from the Championship with his fine form ensuring interest from a host of clubs across Europe.

United have won the race for his signature and he will be part of Ten Hag's new era at Old Trafford.
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QUOTE(natx001 @ Jul 4 2022, 07:48 PM)
Only believe Sky Sports - other youtube talking head are just clickbaits
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When David Onstein, Fabrizo announced, it’s 99% done deal u less get hijack like Malacia’s deal

Barca announced Kessie, meaning FDJ getting closer

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QUOTE(sinoffire @ Jul 4 2022, 07:46 PM)
Add in 2 more free agents - Diybala and Suarez.... get FDJ, Malacia and the other midfielder hijacked from Arsenal... convince Ronnie to stay.... I will consider it a very successful transfer window liao...

Hey, I can dream.

Or..... if Ronnie wants to go... swap with Bayern for Leadawanski.... tongue.gif

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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Jul 4 2022, 08:30 PM)
Add in 2 more free agents - Diybala and Suarez.... get FDJ, Malacia and the other midfielder hijacked from Arsenal... convince Ronnie to stay.... I will consider it a very successful transfer window liao...

Hey, I can dream.
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Luis Suarez?

you kidding? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Jul 4 2022, 08:33 PM)
Luis Suarez?

you kidding?  tongue.gif
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Love this guy back then when he was in Spurs, but he went to Inter Milan instead. I am concerned for his health but anyway, here, we, go!


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I am surprised Eriksen choose to come.

Tbh, I don't think Ten Hag will use him as 1st eleven so much, due to this health condition.
Will be as sub when Bruno is not performing, and cups' lineup.
Of course also when Bruno in slump period.

I know some of u might argue he is better than Bruno, he shud be lineup.
But his health condition won't allow him to play 30 full games in a season.
May be 20 also hard.

But no worry, thanks to 5 subs rule next season,
I am sure we will see him regularly instead just sitting on the bench.

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QUOTE(DarkWan @ Jul 4 2022, 08:38 PM)
Love this guy back then when he was in Spurs, but he went to Inter Milan instead. I am concerned for his health but anyway, here, we, go!


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That's really him in MU Jersey.... or photoshop?
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next martinez!
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Jul 4 2022, 09:01 PM)
next martinez!
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If Ronaldo leaving, use the money to buy another striker
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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Jul 4 2022, 08:30 PM)
Add in 2 more free agents - Diybala and Suarez.... get FDJ, Malacia and the other midfielder hijacked from Arsenal... convince Ronnie to stay.... I will consider it a very successful transfer window liao...

Hey, I can dream.

Or..... if Ronnie wants to go... swap with Bayern for Leadawanski.... tongue.gif
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Oh ya. Suarez is a good one. No ppl buy pulak.

Surprised Eriksen coming. 2 transfers liao lol.
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Oklah. Beggars cannot be choosers (even if our club is rich). Ada shape already. Hopefully as per people talk above, fdj, martinez and lewandowski swap with ronaldo 👀
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QUOTE(damnself @ Jul 4 2022, 09:27 PM)
Oklah. Beggars cannot be choosers (even if our club is rich). Ada shape already. Hopefully as per people talk above, fdj, martinez and lewandowski swap with ronaldo 👀
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the player that MU sign & rumours now it either related to dutch or ajax....eriksen was ex-ajax btw 🤣🤣🤣
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OH YES ERIKSEN HERE WE GO

WHICH MEANS... DE JONG IS CUMING
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QUOTE(orga_laut @ Jul 4 2022, 11:16 PM)
OH YES ERIKSEN HERE WE GO

WHICH MEANS... DE JONG IS CUMING
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Barca officially announced both Kessie and Christensen as their free signing

Well… FDJ maybe still thinking

ETH building a team to feed Ronaldo but now Ronaldo wanted to leave… and now want FDJ, Eriksen, Bruno to feed Martial and Rashford? LOL
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...-headlines.html

Suddenly everything looks positive lol.
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Top class signing this one.. hope goes through..
Need more of class player signing like this..
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Jul 5 2022, 12:20 AM)
Top class signing this one.. hope goes through..
Need more of class player signing like this..
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Imagine if we have FDJ, Eriksen, Bruno, Sancho who can provide crosses, direct passes but front is Rashford/ Martial 😂😂😂
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kinda dick move if ronaldo really made that leave request. i mean, i would have been ok if he tells us he wants to leave earlier. not now when the season starting
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Imagine if we have FDJ, Eriksen, Bruno, Sancho who can provide crosses, direct passes but front is Rashford/ Martial 😂😂😂
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Not really a fan of Eriksen. His playmaking and creativity are below Fernandes. He love to shoot, very useful in a tight game.

But I approve this transfer, obviously as an alternative to Fernandes.
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kinda dick move if ronaldo really made that leave request. i mean, i would have been ok if he tells us he wants to leave earlier. not now when the season starting
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But previously at Juventus, he also made it till very late to leave the club... Hopefully he is doing this just to push the Board to make more signings. But Ronaldo in Europa League, I'm not sure if his ego and pride can swallow it or not..
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Imagine if we have FDJ, Eriksen, Bruno, Sancho who can provide crosses, direct passes but front is Rashford/ Martial 😂😂😂
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We lost the heading ability without ronaldo or cavani. If rashford martial can rediscover form, also not bad. If la haha.

They hit 20 goals a season each under ole first year.

I don't buy cr7 want ucl reason. If this is the reason, he already say leave when season end. Most likely pressuring board on transfers, wait and see.


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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Jul 5 2022, 10:14 AM)
We lost the heading ability without ronaldo or cavani. If rashford martial can rediscover form, also not bad. If la haha.

They hit 20 goals a season each under ole first year.

I don't buy cr7 want ucl reason. If this is the reason, he already say leave when season end. Most likely pressuring board on transfers, wait and see.
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Jul 5 2022, 10:14 AM)
We lost the heading ability without ronaldo or cavani. If rashford martial can rediscover form, also not bad. If la haha.

They hit 20 goals a season each under ole first year.

I don't buy cr7 want ucl reason. If this is the reason, he already say leave when season end. Most likely pressuring board on transfers, wait and see.
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man city also never reli rely on heading capabilities to score goals... before haaland join, u see their front 3... got which one can win alot aerial duels one? haha... most important is the supply and the teamplay... of course if we have striker who can head, then we will have bonus advantage... but i feel we have to learn how to score alot of goals first which was a major problem last season... rashford and martial cant play in front of crowd kot... they are better without the crowds... lol
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Jul 5 2022, 10:31 AM)
Agree on this bro. He knew it since Apr when we didn’t qualified for UCL, by the time EPL ended May, he could have request for transfer
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seems like ETH wanna push for martinez deal and keep calm on the FDJ deal since barca there flip flop like a lady... if they wanna buy lewandowski, its better to sort out the FDJ issues fast... and with kessie also joined dy... i doubt FDJ have a spot in barca anymore...
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Anyone feel Eriksen comes a few years too late? Remember we were linked with him before he left for Inter and even that time I was like meh.
Of course at his peak, a considerable threat due to his stinger missiles....but in a tiki taka or whatever high press mumbo jumbo system he needs to put in the shift no?

Not to mention nowadays all the long range shooting is done by Herr Ronaldo and Bruno. How many times we wanna strike row Z in a match? Ok, if Ronaldo goes (against my personal hopes)...maybe just enough shooting.
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Jul 4 2022, 09:12 PM)
Yes, hopefully wrap up FDJ as well

If Ronaldo leaving, use the money to buy another striker
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Like who? We dont have money apparently and there is no cheap 20 goal strikers around, we legit are going to be screwed if he leaves.
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QUOTE(callmecool @ Jul 5 2022, 09:07 AM)
But previously at Juventus, he also made it till very late to leave the club... Hopefully he is doing this just to push the Board to make more signings. But Ronaldo in Europa League, I'm not sure if his ego and pride can swallow it or not..
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QUOTE(simmarjit @ Jul 5 2022, 11:00 AM)
Like who? We dont have money apparently and there is no cheap 20 goal strikers around, we legit are going to be screwed if he leaves.
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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Jul 5 2022, 10:51 AM)
Anyone feel Eriksen comes a few years too late? Remember we were linked with him before he left for Inter and even that time I was like meh.
Of course at his peak, a considerable threat due to his stinger missiles....but in a tiki taka or whatever high press mumbo jumbo system he needs to put in the shift no?

Not to mention nowadays all the long range shooting is done by Herr Ronaldo and Bruno. How many times we wanna strike row Z in a match? Ok, if Ronaldo goes (against my personal hopes)...maybe just enough shooting.
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He is free and he isnt going to be first choice, we need bodies in midfield with our outgoings as well. I would say win-win for everyone.
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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Jul 5 2022, 10:51 AM)
Anyone feel Eriksen comes a few years too late? Remember we were linked with him before he left for Inter and even that time I was like meh.
Of course at his peak, a considerable threat due to his stinger missiles....but in a tiki taka or whatever high press mumbo jumbo system he needs to put in the shift no?

Not to mention nowadays all the long range shooting is done by Herr Ronaldo and Bruno. How many times we wanna strike row Z in a match? Ok, if Ronaldo goes (against my personal hopes)...maybe just enough shooting.
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his passing still better than bruno if compared to the bruno of last season who made alot of hollywood passes and also misplaced passes... lol... he is definitely suitable for tiki taka shits and second half sub in player... if u wan him press from the start... we would be seeing him in hospital very soon...
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Jul 5 2022, 11:02 AM)
belloti... but italian strikers seldom do well in EPL, at least its been long time since paolo di canio... lol
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QUOTE(simmarjit @ Jul 5 2022, 11:05 AM)
20 goals striker dude, Belloti has reached that only once and that is in 2016/17, i rather rely on Martial LOL he also has reached it once.
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I don’t even wanna mention his heart condition which is between him and God almighty.

As a squad player maybe…but we still have urgent holes in first 11. So please, let us get back to the main show and not the side show.
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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Jul 5 2022, 10:51 AM)
Anyone feel Eriksen comes a few years too late? Remember we were linked with him before he left for Inter and even that time I was like meh.
Of course at his peak, a considerable threat due to his stinger missiles....but in a tiki taka or whatever high press mumbo jumbo system he needs to put in the shift no?

Not to mention nowadays all the long range shooting is done by Herr Ronaldo and Bruno. How many times we wanna strike row Z in a match? Ok, if Ronaldo goes (against my personal hopes)...maybe just enough shooting.
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Never in my wishlist, before this season. But now we are beggars. Anything also good lol
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Ten Hag made it clear, he will not tolerate sideways and backwards passing — subbing off players in training who do not play forward. Players must improve on their fitness and ‘unacceptable’ body language from last term.

I hope this will last many seasons
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well...
inside my heart, i would like ronaldo to stay....

but to be honest, we need to start rebuild for future which mean get new young fresh blood+ let them bonded together....

i dont think we are gonna challenge for anything next year....personally i would like to see ronaldo on another high stage compare on staying here....hopefully not same league only....
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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Jul 5 2022, 10:51 AM)
Anyone feel Eriksen comes a few years too late? Remember we were linked with him before he left for Inter and even that time I was like meh.
Of course at his peak, a considerable threat due to his stinger missiles....but in a tiki taka or whatever high press mumbo jumbo system he needs to put in the shift no?

Not to mention nowadays all the long range shooting is done by Herr Ronaldo and Bruno. How many times we wanna strike row Z in a match? Ok, if Ronaldo goes (against my personal hopes)...maybe just enough shooting.
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a few years too late as first choice starter for 40 games yes. but we shouldnt need to rely him to start 40 games a season. role should be rotation player but with impact.

still hopeful for neves even if fdj is arriving.

if ronaldo i leaving no hard feelings. dude is still a beast and deserved better. hope we can get a cheaper deal and try jovic.
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Hopefully can sign FDJ and martinez. Might miss Antony if we sign martinez. If CR7 wants to leave what to do...hmm...eriksen probably will be used sparingly since he can play many positions.
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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Jul 4 2022, 08:47 PM)
That's really him in MU Jersey.... or photoshop?
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QUOTE(simmarjit @ Jul 5 2022, 11:00 AM)
Like who? We dont have money apparently and there is no cheap 20 goal strikers around, we legit are going to be screwed if he leaves.
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QUOTE(DarkWan @ Jul 5 2022, 12:40 PM)
Looks like Photoshop for me  laugh.gif
Based on our trend of signing up free agents, I think we will go after Paulo Dybala.
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Jul 5 2022, 11:50 AM)
Ten Hag made it clear, he will not tolerate sideways and backwards passing — subbing off players in training who do not play forward. Players must improve on their fitness and ‘unacceptable’ body language from last term.

I hope this will last many seasons
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I guess that interprets into "attack at all costs"?
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QUOTE(DarkWan @ Jul 5 2022, 12:40 PM)
Looks like Photoshop for me  laugh.gif
Based on our trend of signing up free agents, I think we will go after Paulo Dybala.
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Dybala and Suarez?

Sure why not? It's free after all whistling.gif
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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Jul 5 2022, 12:48 PM)
Dybala and Suarez?

Sure why not? It's free after all whistling.gif
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Then the "rebuild with young players with minimum wage, for the future" thats been touted around gonna look like complete ass..
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sometimes say is easy... but its been so many seasons we have elderly as our main striker... ibra, cavani and ronaldo... the young ones... martial, rashford, lukaku, greenwood all unsustainable... doh.gif doh.gif
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Jul 5 2022, 12:03 PM)
a few years too late as first choice starter for 40 games yes. but we shouldnt need to rely [insert XYZ] to start 40 games a season. role should be rotation player but with impact.

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This is what MUFC has become. A team of non-starters and collection of impact subs......

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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Jul 5 2022, 12:46 PM)
I guess that interprets into "attack at all costs"?
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to me sounds like ready for bocor season cause defends cant make it. so better just outscore them at all cost. will buy if it works haha
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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Jul 5 2022, 01:38 PM)
This is what MUFC has become. A team of non-starters and collection of impact subs......
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Jul 5 2022, 01:36 PM)
sometimes say is easy... but its been so many seasons we have elderly as our main striker... ibra, cavani and ronaldo... the young ones... martial, rashford, lukaku, greenwood all unsustainable...  doh.gif  doh.gif
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Experienced winners like Cristiano, Eriksen, Zlatan are important to have around..
Guiding those young ones the importance of winning and improving constantly..

Without these real alpha figures, players like Rashford, McT, Bruno and Maguire think they have made it at the top already..
Then the younger ones looking at these losers as their benchmark..
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Should be 3 signings in 24 hours
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QUOTE(syzwn @ Jul 5 2022, 03:36 PM)
For those who bought ticket for Thailand tour to see CR7 going to be disappointed, he most likely not be there.


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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Jul 5 2022, 04:31 PM)
For those who bought ticket for Thailand tour to see CR7 going to be disappointed, he most likely not be there.
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Well well well CR7
Needs to make public statement
Stay or go
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QUOTE(and85rew @ Jul 5 2022, 04:47 PM)
Well well well CR7
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Already say ma, if got suitable offer, then pls accept lol. Cr7 will go Thailand cause there is contract obligation
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Well well well CR7
Needs to make public statement
Stay or go
Nobody is bigger than club and wish him all the best (stay or gone)
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he sendiri also dun dare to clear the rumours... lol.... regardless also wont blame him no matter which he choose... he already carried us thru a horrendous season... i think we at least expect to reach no.2 and some finals with the signing we made last season... but yea... worse than ole's full season... tongue.gif tongue.gif
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Jul 5 2022, 04:58 PM)
Already say ma, if got suitable offer, then pls accept lol. Cr7 will go Thailand cause there is contract obligation
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Jul 5 2022, 05:04 PM)
he sendiri also dun dare to clear the rumours... lol.... regardless also wont blame him no matter which he choose... he already carried us thru a horrendous season... i think we at least expect to reach no.2 and some finals with the signing we made last season... but yea... worse than ole's full season...  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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I hope he go to bayern la and finish his career on high note
Will not blame..he had done enough with this poor team/management
Imagine infrastructure is worse than when he left

ETH skipped Ajax celebration in order to start early
Yet this management screwed up again (so far)
Good luck this upcoming season
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if CR wanna go not to PL team thats it.

definitely will need a replacement
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Mauricio Pochettino left PSG

not sure kena sacked, resigned or mutual consent?

He was so close becoming our Manager. sweat.gif

Source: BBC https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/62050054

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QUOTE(MamulaMoon @ Jul 5 2022, 06:55 PM)
Mauricio Pochettino left PSG

not sure kena sacked, resigned or mutual consent?

He was so close becoming our Manager. sweat.gif

Source: BBC https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/62050054
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Sacked.
He was finished when Mbappe signed his new contract and PSG became Mbappe FC.

Mbappe doesn't like him.
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Barca leaked FDJ’s contract

Surely we will sign him now?
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Barca leaked FDJ’s contract

Surely we will sign him now?
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For me whichever way it ends up, I'm fine.

If we finally sign FDJ, there's no more excitement. Just glad it's over.
And if we don't sign FDJ, will be happy to see how Barca screwed their wage over the limit and what La Liga will do.

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Well CR7 can ask for transfer but should not skip training la. That means you don’t put in the same effort as your team mates. Not pro.

Time to move on.
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Welcome Malacia! Finally announced

Some interesting reading on FDJ contract

https://amp.marca.com/en/football/barcelona...c10d8b4588.html
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Jul 5 2022, 09:18 PM)
Welcome Malacia! Finally announced

Some interesting reading on FDJ contract

https://amp.marca.com/en/football/barcelona...c10d8b4588.html
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Jul 5 2022, 09:18 PM)
Welcome Malacia! Finally announced

Some interesting reading on FDJ contract

https://amp.marca.com/en/football/barcelona...c10d8b4588.html
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this is not salary issue for Barca but actually DEFERRED back pay and contractual bonuses that they have pay...so interesting.....If I was FDJ then all I have to do is sit tight and ka ching.

Looks like he already did the decent thing and deferred his humongous salary during the pandemic lows, now the slimy Barca management want to avoid paying even that. Why would anyone want to support this club or even dream of playing for this club, that is beyond me. A slimy, dirty management. No wonder he doesn't want to leave. There is much more to be made by staying than actually signing any shiny contract.

No wonder Barca needs to sell him...that's like getting FDJ to play for free for the last 2 years.

I lost my respect for this club which I used to support back in Rivaldo days. Wish them get every single thing they deserve and more. So for FDJ to actually agree to a transfer, this will mean a super entangled negotiation. I do not envy anyone needing to figure out how much goes to who in this case. Looks like Barca should get nothing. And they'd have to contractually back pay FDJ even after cancelling his contract. We shouldn't be getting into this financial clusterfucuk.
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Ronaldo to Chelsea to break the no 9 curse LOL
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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Jul 5 2022, 10:25 PM)
this is not salary issue for Barca but actually DEFERRED back pay and contractual bonuses that they have pay...so interesting.....If I was FDJ then all I have to do is sit tight and ka ching.

Looks like he already did the decent thing and deferred his humongous salary during the pandemic lows, now the slimy Barca management want to avoid paying even that. Why would anyone want to support this club or even dream of playing for this club, that is beyond me. A slimy, dirty management. No wonder he doesn't want to leave. There is much more to be made by staying than actually signing any shiny contract.

No wonder Barca needs to sell him...that's like getting FDJ to play for free for the last 2 years.

I lost my respect for this club which I used to support back in Rivaldo days. Wish them get every single thing they deserve and more. So for FDJ to actually agree to a transfer, this will mean a super entangled negotiation. I do not envy anyone needing to figure out how much goes to who in this case. Looks like Barca should get nothing. And they'd have to contractually back pay FDJ even after cancelling his contract. We shouldn't be getting into this financial clusterfucuk.
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Jul 5 2022, 10:31 PM)
https://twitter.com/trollfootball/status/15...LYXEgl2_j564z0g

Ronaldo to Chelsea to break the no 9 curse LOL
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Barca are just a huge mess, they didnt even pay Vidal fee to Bayern, so Bayern sold the debt to the bank to collect.
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Meanwhile they still want to sign this sign that player then ask existing players cut wages lol
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Meanwhile they still want to sign this sign that player then ask existing players cut wages lol
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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Jul 5 2022, 08:27 PM)
Well CR7 can ask for transfer but should not skip training la. That means you don’t put in the same effort as your team mates. Not pro.

Time to move on.
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He never did this before.. at Sporting, United, Madrid and Juve.. only now..

The club's biggest commercial asset not going for pre-season money making tour..
New kit sales will take a hit because of uncertainty of him staying or leaving..

He's hurting Glazers pocket.. i love it..

If he stays, he will join the training session after money making tour for sure..
He's a machine, bet he will be much fitter than Luke Shaw before season starts anyway..
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Jul 6 2022, 12:33 AM)
He never did this before.. at Sporting, United, Madrid and Juve.. only now..

The club's biggest commercial asset not going for pre-season money making tour..
New kit sales will take a hit because of uncertainty of him staying or leaving..

He's hurting Glazers pocket.. i love it..

If he stays, he will join the training session after money making tour for sure..
He's a machine, bet he will be much fitter than Luke Shaw before season starts anyway..
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While CR7 didn’t skip pre-season training at Juve, but he requested last min transfer request. Which made Juve went for a search for another forward at last min. It might not seem as unprofessional but still stings at that action he’s made.
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post Jul 6 2022, 03:27 AM

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QUOTE(trex9999 @ Jul 6 2022, 02:57 AM)
While CR7 didn’t skip pre-season training at Juve, but he requested last min transfer request. Which made Juve went for a search for another forward at last min. It might not seem as unprofessional but still stings at that action he’s made.
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Same situation like United, even if CR7 stay the need to sign another striker should not be overlooked..
Now that he's going, 2 strikers should be signed..
aaron1717
post Jul 6 2022, 09:31 AM

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dybala inkambing.... dunno can we afford his salary or not... even if we can also i feel he is gonna be another sanchez je... south american player in man utd... doesnt feel in sync....
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post Jul 6 2022, 09:41 AM

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No dybala. Ya feel like jogba or sanchez aje
zhou.xingxing
post Jul 6 2022, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Jul 6 2022, 09:31 AM)
dybala inkambing.... dunno can we afford his salary or not... even if we can also i feel he is gonna be another sanchez je... south american player in man utd... doesnt feel in sync....
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really? thought he was sort of trouble in juve all these while.. if only greenwood no fakap.. now need rely on rashford as backup with his wasteful 3rd tier decision making..

masial > rashford if no gf issue..
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post Jul 6 2022, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Jul 6 2022, 10:01 AM)
really? thought he was sort of trouble in juve all these while.. if only greenwood no fakap.. now need rely on rashford as backup with his wasteful 3rd tier decision making..

masial > rashford if no gf issue..
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martial still have hope ka? laugh.gif
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post Jul 6 2022, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Jul 6 2022, 10:02 AM)
martial still have hope ka?  laugh.gif
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if got choice for others surely no la.. then again if rashford since lvg time still have hope.... masial surely got.. better finisher than rashford but always got gf wife issue...
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post Jul 6 2022, 10:19 AM

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hopefully ronaldo can make it clear to stay or leave as soon as possible....
frankly say, i wish he join another league club rather than EPL
but i dont mind if he join chelsea in attempt to break the dominance of liverpool + man city....

hopefully he wont make last minute transfer like juventus....

if we can receive some payment + clear the some wage cap, i think it win win situation since i dont see we gonna challenge for any title next season + able to let the new team some time to gel together with new younger striker....
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post Jul 6 2022, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Jul 6 2022, 10:01 AM)
really? thought he was sort of trouble in juve all these while.. if only greenwood no fakap.. now need rely on rashford as backup with his wasteful 3rd tier decision making..

masial > rashford if no gf issue..
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both actually can be better if one tak de gf issue and another takde dato-dato issue... tongue.gif tongue.gif dybala still better than these 3 because he keep winning trophies before although serie A not exactly that competitive... compared to our young three trident, dybala issues abang adik je, see ETH can control or not
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post Jul 6 2022, 10:31 AM

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I hope he joins Chelski prove how shiat United board is
IpohGuyz
post Jul 6 2022, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Jul 6 2022, 10:20 AM)
both actually can be better if one tak de gf issue and another takde dato-dato issue...  tongue.gif  tongue.gif dybala still better than these 3 because he keep winning trophies before although serie A not exactly that competitive... compared to our young three trident, dybala issues abang adik je, see ETH can control or not
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Jogba also won serie a.

Demanding high salary is almost a red flag. How many can perform with high salary. Flop more than perform. Next season you see salah flop lol
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post Jul 6 2022, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Jul 6 2022, 10:53 AM)
Jogba also won serie a.

Demanding high salary is almost a red flag. How many can perform with high salary. Flop more than perform. Next season you see salah flop lol
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Dybala sure flop i think. cant even see him performing well in serie A. and he is so skinny, will kena whacked in EPL... and he's bff with pogba, better not bring in another virus biggrin.gif