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post Jul 2 2022, 02:38 AM, updated 4y ago

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Honours

Premiership (13): 1993, 1994, 1996, 1997, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2003, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2011, 2013
Division One Champions (7): 1908, 1911, 1952, 1956, 1957, 1965, 1967
Division Two Champions (2): 1936, 1975

European Cup/UEFA Champions League (3): 1968, 1999, 2008
UEFA Europa League (1): 2017
European Cup-Winners' Cup (1): 1991
European Super Cup (1): 1991

FA Charity/Community Shield (21 (17 outright, 4 shared)): 1908, 1911, 1952, 1956, 1957, 1965*, 1967*, 1977*, 1983, 1990*, 1993, 1994, 1996, 1997, 2003, 2007, 2008, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2016 (* = joint holders)
FA Cup Winners (12): 1909, 1948, 1963, 1977, 1983, 1985, 1990, 1994, 1996, 1999, 2004, 2016
League Cup Winners (5): 1992, 2006, 2009, 2010, 2017

Toyota Inter-Continental Cup Winners (1): 1999
FIFA Club World Cup (1): 2008

Managers

A. H. Albut [1892 - 1900]
James West [1900 - September 1903]
Ernest Magnall [10 October 1903 - 9 September 1912]
T. J. Wallworth [9 September 1912 - 20 October 1912]
John Bentley [28 October 1912 - 28 December 1914]
John Robson [28 December 1914 - 31 October 1921]
John Chapman [31 October 1921 - 8 October 1926]
Clarence Hildrith [8 October 1926 - 13 April 1927]
Herbert Bamlett [13 April 1927 - 9 November 1931]
Walter Crickmer [9 November 1931 - 13 July 1932]
Scott Duncan [13 July 1932 - 7 November 1937]
Walter Crickmer [9 November 1937 - 15 February 1945]
Matt Busby [1 October 1945 - 11 June 1969]
Jimmy Murphy [February 1958 - June 1958]
Wilf McGuinness [11 June 1969 - 29 December 1970]
Matt Busby [29 December 1970 - 8 June 1971]
Frank O'Farrell [8 June 1971 - 19 December 1972]
Tommy Docherty [22 December 1972 - 4 July 1977]
Dave Sexton [14 July 1977 - 29 April 1981]
Ron Atkinson [9 June 1981 - 6 November 1986]
Sir Alex Ferguson [6 November 1986 - 30 June 2013]
David Moyes [01 July 2013 - 22 April 2014]
Ryan Giggs *Caretaker* [22 April 2014 - 18 May 2014]
Louis van Gaal [July 2014 - 23 May 2016]
Jose Mourinho [27 May 2016 - 18 December 2018]
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer [19 December 2018* - 21 November 2021] *Note: Appointed officially on 28 March 2019
Michael Carrick *Caretaker* [21 November 2021 - 02 December 2021]
Ralf Rangnick *Interim* [03 December 2021 - 22 May 2022]
Erik ten Hag [23 May 2022 - Current]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Manch..._and_statistics

Record Home Win: 10-0 v Anderlecht, 26/09/1956 (European Cup Preliminary Round, 2nd leg)
Record Home Defeat: 1-7 v Newcastle United, 10/09/1927 [Division 1]

Record Away Win: 8-1 v Nottingham Forest, 06/02/1999
Record Away Defeat: 0-7 v Blackburn Rovers, 10/04/1926 (Division 1) | 0-7 v Aston Villa, 27/12/1930 [Division 1] | 0-7 v Wolverhampton Wanderers, 26/12/1931 [Division 2]

Record Win: 10-0 v Anderlecht, 26/09/1956 (European Cup Preliminary Round, 2nd leg)
Record Defeat: 0-7 v Blackburn Rovers, 10/04/1926 (Division 1) | 0-7 v Aston Villa, 27/12/1930 [Division 1] | 0-7 v Wolverhampton Wanderers, 26/12/1931 [Division 2]

Record League Win: 10-1 v Wolves, 15/10/1892 (Division 1)
Record League Defeat: 0-7 v Blackburn Rovers, 10/04/1926 (Division 1) | 0-7 v Aston Villa, 27/12/1930 [Division 1] | 0-7 v Wolverhampton Wanderers, 26/12/1931 [Division 2]

Record Premier League Win: 9-0 v Ipswich Town, 04/03/1995
Record Premier League Defeat: 0-5 v Newcastle United, 20/10/1996 | 0-5 v Chelsea, 03/10/1999 | 1–6 v Manchester City, 23 October 2011

Record FA Cup Win: 8-0 v Yeovil Town, 12/02/1949
Record FA Cup Defeat: 1-7 v Burnley, 13/02/1901 [1st Round]

Record European Win: 10-0 v Anderlecht, 26/09/1956 (European Cup Preliminary Round, 2nd leg)
Record European Defeat: 0-5 v Sporting, 18/03/1964 [Cup Winners' Cup QF]

Record Champions League Win: 7-1 v Roma, 10/04/2007 [UCL QF, 2nd leg]

Record Home Attendance (At Old Trafford): 76,098 31/3/2007 Premier League (Man Utd vs Blackburn) (83,260 for United v Arsenal at Maine Road in 1948)

Record League Appearances: 672 (555 Start, 117 Sub) Ryan Giggs 1990 - 06 May 2014 v Hull City [963 (802 Start, 161 Sub) overall]

Record League Goalscorer: 199 [in 606 league appearances] Sir Bobby Charlton 1956-1973

Record Overall Goalscorer: 253 [in 559 appearances] Wayne Rooney 2004-09 July 2017

Record Transfer Fee Received: 80,000,000 pounds for Cristiano Ronaldo to Real Madrid (July 2009)

Record Transfer Fee Paid: 89,000,000 pounds for Paul Pogba from Juventus (August 2016)


As the world's biggest and richest club, Manchester United reach a global fanbase.

Part of the attraction for fans around the world has been the football luminaries, such as George Best and Sir Bobby Charlton, who have graced the Old Trafford turf in a Manchester United shirt over the years.

Recently, Manchester United have continued to attract or develop some of the game's biggest names, with England stalwarts such as Paul Scholes and David Beckham having been regular fixtures in the Reds line-up.

The Manchester United team, past and present, reads like a who's who of world football.

It is only fitting that a great team should grace a great stadium. And with Old Trafford's recent development and the closure of Wembley, the ground is easily the largest in English football, holding in excess of 60,000 fans.

Despite this capacity, the demand to see United in action is so great that tickets are hard to come by.

But it isn't only Manchester United fans who flock to Old Trafford. The standard of the ground is such that it regularly hosts high-profile games, most notably, the Champions League Final and Great Britain rugby league games.

Rock fans have also made use of the Reds's facilities, watching a number of high-profile acts at the ground.

But it's football that will forever be synonymous with the Reds famous ground - and with good reason.

The last decade has seen Manchester United under the shrewd leadership of Sir Alex Ferguson maintain a virtual stranglehold on the Premiership crown.

Manchester United has won the league no fewer than 18 times in their history. They are also Cup Kings too, winning the FA cup 11 times, the league cup 4 times, as well as winning the European Super Cup, European Cup Winner's Cup, and 3 times being crowned European Cup champions.

Manchester United has long become a name associated with success both on and off the pitch.

As club profits continue to grow, Manchester United have become one of the richest sports clubs on the planet.

With supporters club branches on every continent, it's hard to go any where in the world and not see somebody wearing the famous red shirt of Manchester United.

Manchester United Club Info

Old Trafford

Nickname: The Red Devils

Ground: Old Trafford

Pitch Size: 116 x 76 yards (106.0704 x 69.4944 meter)

Capacity: 76,000

Address: Sir Matt Busby Way, Old Trafford, Manchester

Postcode: M160RA

Directions: From North: Leave the M60 at junction 12 for M602 (Salford / Manchester). At the end of M602 (Jtn 3) follow the signs for Salford Quays and Trafford Park. At the roundabout turn right into Trafford Road (A5063), then at the bridge over Manchester Ship canal, keep in the right hand lane and turn right. Next, follow this road round to Trafford Wharf Road, and then left onto Watersreach. Continue through the traffic lights onto Sir Matt Busby Way.

From South: Leave M6 at junction 19, then take the A56 towards Manchester Airport. Join the M56 to Manchester, going past the Airport and then follow the signs for the M60 (Leeds / Liverpool). Leave M60 at Jtn 7 (A56 Chester Road) following signs for Manchester United Football Club. Turn left into Sir Matt Busby Way.

Ticket prices: 25 pounds upwards, concessions from 12.50 pounds. Tickets for the home sections are usually only available to members of the club and are normally allocated by ballot.

Contact information: Ticket Office: 0161 868 8020
Main Telephone: 0161 868 8000

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QUOTE(zenix @ Nov 24 2009, 09:18 PM)
Hope Alien will sticky this info later.
Though written in 2006 so no Roy Keane yet.

Ex-United players that have moved on to become managers.

Written by Simon Stone (MARCH 22, 2006)

STEVE BRUCE (1987-1996): Took his first steps in management with Sheffield United in 1998, then swiftly moved on to Huddersfield, Wigan and Crystal Palace. Left Selhurst Park in acrimonious fashion after Birmingham targeted him as the replacement for Trevor Francis in 1991. Took Blues into the Premier League but after a heavy FA Cup defeat is struggling to keep his job.

MARTIN POWELL (1971-1983): Stylish and well-respected Scotland centre-half whose authoritative nature appeared to make him a natural for the management game. Lasted four months at Burnley.

SIR BOBBY CHARLTON (1956-1973): Arguably the finest English player of all time proved to be an unmitigated disaster as a manager. Claimed he was not given the resources to make a decent job of it at Preston but was never lured back into management following his departure after a single season.

STEVE COPPELL (1975-1983): After a knee injury cut his playing career short at just 28, Coppell turned his attention to management. Steered Crystal Palace into the FA Cup final and then third place in the old First Division - the Eagles' highest ever - the following season. It was the first of four stints in charge at Selhurst Park in a career which has seen him move to Manchester City (for only six games), Brentford and Brighton. Now at Reading and about to steer the Royals into the top flight for the first time.

PADDY CRERAND (1962-1971): A key figure in United's 1968 European Cup triumph, Crerand lasted five months at Northampton before getting the bullet and, like Charlton, never managed again.

MARK HUGHES (1983-86, 1988-95): Hughes was never tipped as a manager by Ferguson but has taken to the game with ease. Took Wales into the Euro 2004 play-offs. Took over at Blackburn shortly afterwards, steering Rovers away from danger in his first season. Currently in contention for a Champions League spot.

BRIAN KIDD (1967-1974): Another European Cup winner who proved to be a poor manager. Got itchy feet in 1998 after spending seven years as Sir Alex Ferguson's highly-rated assistant. Took command at Blackburn but dismissed six months later.

BRYAN ROBSON (1981-94): United's inspirational leader under Ron Atkinson and Ferguson. There are two schools of thought on his stint at Middlesbrough - he either spent lots and achieved little (relegation and two losing finals) or he laid the platform for the Teessiders to become an established Premiership outfit. Kept West Brom up in extraordinary fashion last year but back in trouble again this season.

GORDON STRACHAN (1984-89): Scotland international who won the FA Cup with United and the title of the pre-Premiership era with Leeds. Sacked after five years at when the Sky Blues lost top-flight status, then enjoyed success at Southampton - reaching the 2003 Cup final - before resigning to spend more time with his family. Now at Celtic, has recovered from a humiliating Champions League exit to Artmedia Bratislava, and, after winning his first trophy on Sunday in the CIS Insurance Cup, is set to clinch the Scottish Premier League.

NOBBY STILES (1960-71): Along with Charlton, one of only two Englishmen to have won the World Cup and European Cup, he replaced his former England and United team-mate at Preston, with limited success. After a brief stint in Vancouver, returned to England to take over as manager of West Brom. Sacked after five months, having gained just three wins.
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Eriksen where are uu
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Finally one signing...
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Malaysia represent Manchester United! Eh Malacia 🤤
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We wait until flowers also fall…
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Waiting FDJ, Malacia, Martinez, Eriksen, Romero standing one line together with our new home kits next week
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Very slow business deals
June was a fruitless month

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QUOTE(and85rew @ Jul 2 2022, 08:51 AM)
Very slow business deals
June was a fruitless month
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Got to admit, yes.

Many players linked to us just wait and see FDJ’s deal, if he is announced “Here We Go” then the rest will come. Eriksen and Martinez maybe thinking the same, who want to come here just to play alongside with McFred? Lol McFred are good as rotation or squad players.
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Jul 2 2022, 09:11 AM)
Got to admit, yes.

Many players linked to us just wait and see FDJ’s deal, if he is announced “Here We Go” then the rest will come. Eriksen and Martinez maybe thinking the same, who want to come here just to play alongside with McFred? Lol McFred are good as rotation or squad players.
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Seems very hard to convince FDJ to come despite ETH is the manager and Barca is in huge financial trouble until that recent deal.

United still unable to clear surplus players due to high wages offered by woodward. Seems this cycle will not break till their contract ends

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QUOTE(and85rew @ Jul 2 2022, 09:24 AM)
Seems very hard to convince FDJ to come despite ETH is the manager and Barca is in huge financial trouble until that recent deal.

United still unable to clear surplus players due to high wages offered by woodward. Seems this cycle will not break till their contract ends
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FDJ basically done deal, 65M agreed, now only discussing the 20M add on clauses. FDJ busy proposing to his gf yo, so maybe next week will discuss the contract with MU, BUT if the personal deal cannot settle, Chelsea will step in for hijacking game. They are monitoring

Barca need to clear off his 275k/week wages to make room for Kessie and Christensen registration

Our deadwood hard to sell off cuz many of them holding huge wages

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Part of our deadwood all high wages due to jogba. He set the ceiling and all want near that
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Jul 2 2022, 12:42 PM)
Part of our deadwood all high wages due to jogba. He set the ceiling and all want near that
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Should be some one name Sanchez
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Jul 2 2022, 12:55 PM)
Should be some one name Sanchez
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Well he earned it right, can play piano for his own promotional video
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It was Alexis that break the ceiling..
Back when Pogba was signed back to United form Juve he was 2nd highest paid behind Rooney..

The following season he was the highest at 290k per week.. after that Alexis came, 350k per week..
Then the following season De Gea renewed his contract for 375k per week..

De Gea remained the highest paid player at United until last season when CR7 took that spot..
Sancho at 3rd for 350k, followed by Varane at 340k..

Is it really Sanchez fault? Not really.. United got the option to refuse, same goes with De Gea contract renewal..
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Jul 2 2022, 12:55 PM)
Should be some one name Sanchez
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Sebab pogba also damn high, so sanchez use that as benchmark to make higher. Then all hairwire liao
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Now news saying Chelsea wanna hijack us on FDJ. Goshh....
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QUOTE(callmecool @ Jul 2 2022, 07:53 PM)
Now news saying Chelsea wanna hijack us on FDJ. Goshh....
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Chelsea are monitoring the situation. €65M already agreed, €20M add on still discussing plus FDJ personal terms not yet finalised
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Can you blame him? But that’ll be 510k off the wages per week.

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tbh honest CR7 leaving will solve a lot of problems for us ....

and we shouldnt have signed him ...

p/s: I'm not gonna deny that he contributed alot last season but he also threw the squad/formation balance off right away ...
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QUOTE(treblecase @ Jul 2 2022, 11:49 PM)
Can you blame him? But that’ll be 510k off the wages per week.

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I doubt its real but come on man ...we talk as if its our own money, we already free up 1 mil a week with all the free transfers out, and now we want to let the biggest commercial name in the game as well as a club icon and arguably the best player from last season to go AND you're ok with it? I rather we overpay for players rather than it going out to the Glazers.
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Probably because he knows that Maguire will keep the armband and United cant match his ambitions..

Hope keep it real and tell all if he leaves..

But the best lol of the day, United fans worrying about money spent on wages.. Glazers must be lovin it
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Cant even sign a midfielder after 1month nego..... If Ronaldo leave now, which striker to sign? Nego again 1 month ? Got budget or not...
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QUOTE(ahbenggay @ Jul 3 2022, 02:08 AM)
lol. mate. you're a joke. you cant compete with people and you blame everyone but yourself.

Ronaldo 1st came in was nothing but he work hard.

You're just like Maguire , Pogba toxic parasite of the club.
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What’s wrong with you? Name calling me for just stating my opinion?

It’s widely known we sign Ronaldo not to improve our squad but to prevent City from signing him

Then Ole or the team has to accommodate to his playstyle (although it may not suitable to the team).

You play him then ppl gonna question his work rate despite the goals he bring (cue City and Liv for the modern pressing game)

If you don’t play him then manager will be bombarded by the media

A world class square peg (Ronaldo in this case) may not be the best answer for ppl who has round holes.

Fans who don’t acknowledge bout this issue is no better than fans who speak out since you’re just allowing the “rot” to continue with all questionable decisions

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Barca President is extremely selfish and respecting no one.

He is basically disrespecting 2 clubs that are doing business with them, and both players involved as well.

FDJ deal is almost done, but he is denying.
Stating he want to stay.
In the end, when FDJ come, it will certainly bring bad image.

Rapinha deal is extremely far from being done.
Leeds even already claimed they only accept Chelsea offers for now, but he still claims the player himself wanna go Barca.
In the end, if the player go to Chelsea, will bring bag image as well.

For me, he is another Raiola.
Sorry but not sorry.

Asking players to reduce wages, not paying some more.
Respecting no one, say whatever he wanna say just for own benefits.
I have respect toward Barca in Messi, Xavi, Iniesta era.
Not now, certainly not.

With this president, I think they are on the road from being one of the most respected club, to one of the most hated club in no time.

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if the goat want to leave, then let him go.
lets rebuild with maguire
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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Jul 3 2022, 02:38 AM)
What’s wrong with you? Name calling me for just stating my opinion?

It’s widely known we sign Ronaldo not to improve our squad but to prevent City from signing him

Then Ole or the team has to accommodate to his playstyle (although it may not suitable to the team).

You play him then ppl gonna question his work rate despite the goals he bring (cue City and Liv for the modern pressing game)

If you don’t play him then manager will be bombarded by the media

A world class square peg (Ronaldo in this case) may not be the best answer for ppl who has round holes.

Fans who don’t acknowledge bout this issue is no better than fans who speak out since you’re just allowing the “rot” to continue with all questionable decisions
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I dont even know where or how to start judging how delusional you're.

But let's just say you're right.

My bad for calling you toxic.

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Hail to Glazer, for the past 6 years Glazer took $134 MILLION POUND and the debt remains around $500 MILLION POUND

Well Done Glazer, FDJ might not come to United, Ronaldo wanted to leave. This is getting ridiculous
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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Jul 3 2022, 02:38 AM)
What’s wrong with you? Name calling me for just stating my opinion?

It’s widely known we sign Ronaldo not to improve our squad but to prevent City from signing him

Then Ole or the team has to accommodate to his playstyle (although it may not suitable to the team).

You play him then ppl gonna question his work rate despite the goals he bring (cue City and Liv for the modern pressing game)

If you don’t play him then manager will be bombarded by the media

A world class square peg (Ronaldo in this case) may not be the best answer for ppl who has round holes.

Fans who don’t acknowledge bout this issue is no better than fans who speak out since you’re just allowing the “rot” to continue with all questionable decisions
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Ole is not setting the team to accommodate Ronaldo, the team is shit from the beginning. No top striker is able to play with this team not even Lewandowski, Haaland on that shit team


Counterattack with 6 players at the back to cover The Maguire of Fridge slow pace and hoping Ronaldo to do magic week in and week out.


No ball deliver to him, he needs to go way back at defender in order to collect the ball up front


Those Mc Fred are clueless getting play week in and week out while the decent player like VDB is on the bench for almost a whole season


If want to talk about 2nd place of Ole, liverpool no Van Dijk for almost a whole season and Spurs with an injury crisis, Chelsea is under Lampard and United at that time no injury crisis.






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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Jul 3 2022, 02:38 AM)
What’s wrong with you? Name calling me for just stating my opinion?

It’s widely known we sign Ronaldo not to improve our squad but to prevent City from signing him

Then Ole or the team has to accommodate to his playstyle (although it may not suitable to the team).

You play him then ppl gonna question his work rate despite the goals he bring (cue City and Liv for the modern pressing game)

If you don’t play him then manager will be bombarded by the media

A world class square peg (Ronaldo in this case) may not be the best answer for ppl who has round holes.

Fans who don’t acknowledge bout this issue is no better than fans who speak out since you’re just allowing the “rot” to continue with all questionable decisions
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Half true, bcoz towards end of the 2020/2021 season, opponents started to find out United tactics (counter and hope for player magic moments?)

If you're talking about pressing, CR press more than Rashford. Real or Benzema did not press that hard but they won league and CL.

Ole just get lucky 2nd due to Tottenham/Chelsea/Liverpool/Arsenal have issues (injuries/manager changes). After VAR and rules change, Bruno become more average and keep on whining/losing balls.
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They started to demonize CR7 now.. saying he destroyed Ole-ball..
Lol still clinging on to the worst Cardiff manager ever..
The best goal scorer in the world with 32 trophies was bad signing for United?..

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Wth, cr7 leave means he either see eth sux after training or no hope with board transfer. Now fdj deal not moving. Really shitty board.
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All I know is we have a top dog transfer negotiator / director of football that has been working 6-10 (we could have heard wrongly, it maybe only 4 hours per day), 16 hours a day sign ETH’s by now magical and mythical transfer list. By this we have managed to spend a stupendous €15M!

The entire French league is quaking at our ability to hijack deals, provided it is cheap enough in the first place. Everyone and anyone cannot make a transfer bid without MUFC adding €1 and topping them.

So eventually, we will have won the league by spending soo little, going the way of Leicester rather than Liverpool or MC (shame on them for spending, shame on SAF for spending to win).

All we have to do now is wait 2 seasons for Barca’s deluded president to decide / remember / conclude that they actually want to sell a critical player we may or may not need, for a price they for sure do not apparently need, who says that he was already playing for his boyhood dream team and never intended to leave at the first place.
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If you guys think CR7 is wrong to attempt to force us into transfer activity, remember that when he came back he found even the swimming pool of The biggest team on earth to be worst than when he left 10+ years ago. Only by threatening and complaining that they eventually raised some funds (maybe crowd sourced) to fix it so that he can get back to maintaining his fitness, so that he actually scored 28 goals….

If we didn’t have Cristiano last year we would’ve been stuck in bottom 10. Not that it mattered but whole season I only remember his solo goals and screamers as sweet memories. Don’t ever bash the real GOAT.
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Jul 3 2022, 11:12 AM)
They started to demonize CR7 now.. saying he destroyed Ole-ball..
Lol still clinging on to the worst Cardiff manager ever..
The best goal scorer in the world with 32 trophies was bad signing for United?..
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Not sure if you're referring to me (since I nvr bash CR7 for wanting to leave, merely stating that if he leaves it solves some existing problems/dilemma for the team) but here's my additional comment:

a world class player can be a bad signing ... if it disrupt the team's balance or doesn't really fit into a manager's philosophy or gameplay

Reports said that Ole nvr wanted to sign CR7 and it was the management/Woodward/SAF who bought him because they cant bear to see CR7 signed for the noisy neighbour.

Also, in the past I've always called out many times regarding Ole's capability (especially after the Europa Final).

Besides, RR also said that he has to tweaked the formation to accommodate Ronaldo since Ronaldo doesn't want play alone on top.

My stand is ... if he stays, good for the team since he is a serial winner + high standard with strong mentality and hunger (will be good role model for the youngster and new signings)

but if he wanna leave, let him go because:-

1) his heart is no longer here (and keeping unhappy player of his status can disrupt the dressing room harmony)

2) he is already old and we should really play with younger players for the future with rebuilding in mind

3) it can potentially gives more flexibility for the manager in tactics (again like I mentioned in my previous post that media gonna have a fun day questioning the manager if Ronaldo is dropped or substituted with excessive scrutiny)

4) frees up the wages


Club is always bigger than a player ... and I don't pretend that signing Ronaldo last season is all good without any disadvantages/flaws in bigger picture

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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Jul 3 2022, 11:38 AM)
Not sure if you're referring to me (since I nvr bash CR7 for wanting to leave, merely stating that if he leaves it solves some existing problems/dilemma for the team) but here's my additional comment:

a world class player can be a bad signing ... if it disrupt the team's balance or doesn't really fit into a manager's philosophy or gameplay

RR once said that he has to tweaked the formation to accommodate Ronaldo since Ronaldo doesn't want play alone on top.

Also, in the past I've always called out many times regarding Ole's capability (especially after the Europa Final)

My stand is ... if he stays, good for the team since he is a serial winner + high standard with strong mentality and hunger (will be good role model for the youngster and new signings)

but if he wanna leave, let him go because:-

1) his heart is no longer here (and keeping unhappy player of his status can disrupt the dressing room harmony)
2) he is already old and we should really play with younger players for the future with rebuilding in mind
3) it can potentially gives more flexibility for the manager in tactics (again like I mentioned in my previous post that media gonna have a fun day questioning the manager if Ronaldo is dropped or substituted with excessive scrutiny)
4) frees up the wages
Club is always bigger than a player ... and I don't pretend that signing Ronaldo last season is all good without any disadvantages/flaws in bigger picture
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It is fine and fair to debate, but think 3x, last season if we didn’t sign CR7, we would’ve have been playing with Masial and waiting for Cavani’s shadow to appear. Confirm we will be knee deep.

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It is fine and fair to debate, but think 3x, last season if we didn’t sign CR7, we would’ve have been playing with Masial and waiting for Cavani’s shadow to appear. Confirm we will be knee deep.
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to be honest, if it's not for Greenwood's case, we would not be so barebone on top ..

but last season is gone, and we really should look forward now

we all have sentimental feelings towards CR7 if you've been a fan since then (I started following Man Utd since RvN era), but rationally we shouldn't really rely on 37 years old to carry us and use him sparringly (if he stays)

but we all know Ronaldo really focus alot on personal records and trophies (which smtg that the current Man Utd cant give now)
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Jul 3 2022, 11:25 AM)
Wth, cr7 leave means he either see eth sux after training or no hope with board transfer. Now fdj deal not moving. Really shitty board.
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Half of it. They can sack all the Woodward’s macai and restore new people like Richard Arnold, Murtough to take charge but when you see the hierarchy, something was missing. Under DoF John Murtough, there is nobody. ETH can give him the list and Murtough will do all the negotiations but he alone certainly not enough. He should have a team under him, negotiators, football lawyers etc that help him thru all the transfer dealing but I can’t see any.

I can feel Ronaldo’s situation, he knows what is lacking in the team. Will he still want to play with the likes of Maguire, McFred and AWB without any new joiner?
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CR7 is said to actually like ETH.
CR7 is not happy with the lack of transfers and the club is not pushing to build a competitive team for the coming season. He doesn't want to waste his remaining years playing in a team that has no hope of any trophies. He is disappointed with Manchester United's club performance in the rebuild.

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https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/4693951/b...-jong-president

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bodoh transfer team too slow to sign fdj....now suddenly barca dont want to sell..🤦
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QUOTE(skystrike @ Jul 3 2022, 12:41 PM)
bodoh transfer team too slow to sign fdj....now suddenly barca dont want to sell..🤦
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Either barca trying to jack up price or they are ok after that 200m boost

Once they got 200m boost, the transfer stance will change. They are not desperate prior to that 200m deal.

If United add up another 10-20m upfront, blame the transfer team.
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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Jul 3 2022, 11:33 AM)
All I know is we have a top dog transfer negotiator / director of football that has been working 6-10 (we could have heard wrongly, it maybe only 4 hours per day), 16 hours a day sign ETH’s by now magical and mythical transfer list. By this we have managed to spend a stupendous €15M!

The entire French league is quaking at our ability to hijack deals, provided it is cheap enough in the first place. Everyone and anyone cannot make a transfer bid without MUFC adding €1 and topping them.

So eventually, we will have won the league by spending soo little, going the way of Leicester rather than Liverpool or MC (shame on them for spending, shame on SAF for spending to win).

All we have to do now is wait 2 seasons for Barca’s deluded president to decide / remember / conclude that they actually want to sell a critical player we may or may not need, for a price they for sure do not apparently need, who says that he was already playing for his boyhood dream team and never intended to leave at the first place.
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Sure got team under him la. Impossible only 1 ppl working. Just that those names maybe clocking 9-6 job ppl
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Jul 3 2022, 12:58 PM)
Sure got team under him la. Impossible only 1 ppl working. Just that those names maybe clocking 9-6 job ppl
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Of course, it takes a team of people to sit around and wait for deals to done by others and then we just need to wait until other people submit some proposals, then we just up the bid.

May I ask, really, what on earth are this wonderful top crack team doing other than wait for others to act? Ethan hunt would’ve stolen FDJ’s registration papers by now. Honestly I am still ashamed by our handling of Sancho. And have been taken to school on this, losing time AND money in the process.

If you all tell me this is the best team / big boys / top money baller, then I also dunno what pipe we all smoking from.

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Our club is a mess. Players sux, transfer team sux, board sux, coach sux, facilities sux. Everything need change
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QUOTE(and85rew @ Jul 3 2022, 12:53 PM)
Either barca trying to jack up price or they are ok after that 200m boost

Once they got 200m boost, the transfer stance will change. They are not desperate prior to that 200m deal.

If United add up another 10-20m upfront, blame the transfer team.
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Even if they have 1B transfer budget still they need to sell. It’s the salary cap that set by La Liga. They still can buy Neymar, Lewan, Silva, Raphinha or even re sign Messi in one transfer window, they got no room for salary gap
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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Jul 3 2022, 11:49 AM)
to be honest, if it's not for Greenwood's case, we would not be so barebone on top ..

but last season is gone, and we really should look forward now

we all have sentimental feelings towards CR7 if you've been a fan since then (I started following Man Utd since RvN era), but rationally we shouldn't really rely on 37 years old to carry us and use him sparringly (if he stays)

but we all know Ronaldo really focus alot on personal records and trophies (which smtg that the current Man Utd cant give now)
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So many buts and ifs. If only Cavani was not a homesick boy, if only he was even half as fit as the other old man Ronaldo.
But no, greenwood managed to derail his own career by focusing on allegedly raping his own girlfriend. Why can’t even have the decency to propose a marriage and do it like a responsible man?
No, Greenwood was playing at the start of the season and we all saw his star waned way before his case got any mention. Any player who is focused on allegedly raping his girlfriend would not be a great player or even a half decent one eventually.
Not at all MU’s fault but leaves us with our pants down in front had we not had CR7.

We could’ve signed someone better no doubt, but to say he is the source of our troubles or causing trouble for anyone (poor RR, lost his job because he had the best striker ever to manage…such a horrible job he had) is hands down a lousy way to thank Cristiano for single handedly carrying us last season.

I agree not to be a old folks home, and live on sentimentality alone. But it is a damn fact that last year he was by a long mile our top player and not even too frequently injured. He should be used sparingly, yes but not treated sparingly. He should be given ear and fully respected. How often has he actually complained about club management ? Way less than the other Argentine goat for sure. How much he can play should be managed by listening to him and his physical condition. It is my way of saying every time he puts on the shirt I have never felt let down, so much as I see any other player when they wear the shirt. When it is time for him to finally decide to down tools and sip pina colada, that is the time we let allow him to do it and not show him the door a day too soon.
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Jul 3 2022, 02:06 PM)
Even if they have 1B transfer budget still they need to sell. It’s the salary cap that set by La Liga. They still can buy Neymar, Lewan, Silva, Raphinha or even re sign Messi in one transfer window, they got no room for salary gap
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Depends on the financial period
They can spend up to a portion depending on income
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Opened football news portal... Our season seems to be over before it even started. Barca now saying not gonna sell FDJ, Ronaldo wanna leave, Antony too expensive to buy, the other 2 defenders Malacia and Martinez till now can't see shadows in Manchester also. At the same time, we actually not able to sell even a single player. SIGHHHHH. What the hell is going on with the management there..
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QUOTE(callmecool @ Jul 3 2022, 03:43 PM)
Opened football news portal... Our season seems to be over before it even started. Barca now saying not gonna sell FDJ, Ronaldo wanna leave, Antony too expensive to buy, the other 2 defenders Malacia and Martinez till now can't see shadows in Manchester also. At the same time, we actually not able to sell even a single player. SIGHHHHH. What the hell is going on with the management there..
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Add..our fringe players on high wages and hard to offload them
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QUOTE(callmecool @ Jul 3 2022, 03:43 PM)
Opened football news portal... Our season seems to be over before it even started. Barca now saying not gonna sell FDJ, Ronaldo wanna leave, Antony too expensive to buy, the other 2 defenders Malacia and Martinez till now can't see shadows in Manchester also. At the same time, we actually not able to sell even a single player. SIGHHHHH. What the hell is going on with the management there..
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Malacia flying to Manchester for first round medical today and tmr will going thru second level medical and reveal as first signing

Martinez, Ajax now want straight cash €50M

FDJ, that’s typical Laporta comment, remembered “we will keep Messi” comment? Ended up Messi was free and he joined PSG. And remembered 2002 when he ran for president seat? He said he will signed Beckham once he become president but that time we all know, he himself also know Beckham joining RM

For once I want to see Barca really went into liquidation and force to sell off all the players.

I always believe the final 20M add on discussion still on but it’s a bit hard, not as easy as few click at FM. Laporta just a dick trying to stir things up

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confident FDJ and Martinez will sign.

jus wanna see who will replace Ronaldo up top
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Jul 3 2022, 06:19 PM)
confident FDJ and Martinez will sign.

jus wanna see who will replace Ronaldo up top
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Always no doubt on FDJ, Laporta is an arse, not first time he did this kind of public stunt

I’m guessing the arrival of FDJ and Martinez will make Ronaldo to reconsider his departure.

If no then can consider Anthony again LOL

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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Jul 3 2022, 11:38 AM)
Not sure if you're referring to me (since I nvr bash CR7 for wanting to leave, merely stating that if he leaves it solves some existing problems/dilemma for the team) but here's my additional comment:

a world class player can be a bad signing ... if it disrupt the team's balance or doesn't really fit into a manager's philosophy or gameplay

Reports said that Ole nvr wanted to sign CR7 and it was the management/Woodward/SAF who bought him because they cant bear to see CR7 signed for the noisy neighbour.

Also, in the past I've always called out many times regarding Ole's capability (especially after the Europa Final).

Besides, RR also said that he has to tweaked the formation to accommodate Ronaldo since Ronaldo doesn't want play alone on top.

My stand is ... if he stays, good for the team since he is a serial winner + high standard with strong mentality and hunger (will be good role model for the youngster and new signings)

but if he wanna leave, let him go because:-

1) his heart is no longer here (and keeping unhappy player of his status can disrupt the dressing room harmony)

2) he is already old and we should really play with younger players for the future with rebuilding in mind

3) it can potentially gives more flexibility for the manager in tactics (again like I mentioned in my previous post that media gonna have a fun day questioning the manager if Ronaldo is dropped or substituted with excessive scrutiny)

4) frees up the wages
Club is always bigger than a player ... and I don't pretend that signing Ronaldo last season is all good without any disadvantages/flaws in bigger picture
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1. I do not know about his heart, never knew him personally..
But theres a reason why he wanted to leave, because United looking like dont have any ambition to win..
United did not do the actions of a club that hungry and want to be on top winning tophies..

2. Old doesnt mean that he is no longer a threat to the opponents..
There were few times he bailed United out last season in the CL..
Without his individual brilliance moments and goals, United could've been out druing the group stage..
This play young players for the future stuff.. future of what? winning trophies or competing for Europa League spot or top 10?
None of united young players are good enough.. the last one were class of 92..
Should United wait until they failed like Wellbeck, Eagles, Chadwick, Gibson, Cleverley, Januzaj, etc?

3. Ronaldo removes the tactical flexibility of the manager? yeah, for a mediocre ones like the worst manager ever for Cardiff City, Ole..
Any top manager in the world would want him in their team, Pep wanted him..
United manager should be able to handle the immense pressure that comes with the job.. they paid highly to do it..
Scrutiny from the media and public is a normal thing for a manager of a big club like United..
Why wanna shield and cuddle a grown ass man that get paid to do his high profile job?

4. United making average of 500m per season, wage is not an issue.. in fact they get more money with CR7 around

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CR7 actually won us many games last season. Btw, FDJ transfer dragging again..aduh...
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Does anyone at all think that we are being played by Barca? It’s like Laporta just threatening FDJ with being sold if he doesn’t want to resign a lower salary contract?
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Does anyone at all think that we are being played by Barca? It’s like Laporta just threatening FDJ with being sold if he doesn’t want to resign a lower salary contract?
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Laporta was a politician bro. The way he suddenly said that it’s part of his plan, it’s simple:

1. If FDJ join us, he can put the blame on FDJ by not reduce his salary

2. If FDJ reduce the salary, he will be hero

Both way he also a winner. To keep the fans happy and get more support, for future re election as president.

If Barca played us, why need to nego nego at the first place? Can straight said “nope, FDJ is not for sale”, they already know FDJ salary gap is very important for them to register Kessie, Christensen, Alonso (?), Raphinha (?)

Remembered Messi? Remembered Emerson?
He said he will do his best to keep Messi, did he? Ended up Messi joined PSG
He said Emerson was here to stay after signing new contract, 2 weeks later, he joined Spurs
Look back 2002 when he ran for president, his main manifesto was to sign Beckham when he get elected but that time Beckham already on his way to RM

I don’t trusted things coming out from Laporta, his political skills are same level like our own politicians

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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Jul 3 2022, 11:58 PM)
Laporta was a politician bro. The way he suddenly said that it’s part of his plan, it’s simple:

1. If FDJ join us, he can put the blame on FDJ by not reduce his salary

2. If FDJ reduce the salary, he will be hero

Both way he also a winner. To keep the fans happy and get more support, for future re election as president.

If Barca played us, why need to nego nego at the first place? Can straight said “nope, FDJ is not for sale”, they already know FDJ salary gap is very important for them to register Kessie, Christensen, Alonso (?), Raphinha (?)

Remembered Messi? Remembered Emerson?
He said he will do his best to keep Messi, did he? Ended up Messi joined PSG
He said Emerson was here to stay after signing new contract, 2 weeks later, he joined Spurs
Look back 2002 when he ran for president, his main manifesto was to sign Beckham when he get elected but that time Beckham already on his way to RM

I don’t trusted things coming out from Laporta, his political skills are same level like our own politicians
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The same way as we ended up not getting Fabregas from Barcelona. Same as how Dembele is still at Barca too. Yes, they need to trim their salary bills. But perhaps using another club is a good idea to deliver this. I have an inkling that our noob transfer team is being taken for a ride, and ETH may have been too damn naive to only focus on 1 name.
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Jul 3 2022, 04:39 PM)
Malacia flying to Manchester for first round medical today and tmr will going thru second level medical and reveal as first signing

Martinez, Ajax now want straight cash €50M

FDJ, that’s typical Laporta comment, remembered “we will keep Messi” comment? Ended up Messi was free and he joined PSG. And remembered 2002 when he ran for president seat? He said he will signed Beckham once he become president but that time we all know, he himself also know Beckham joining RM

For once I want to see Barca really went into liquidation and force to sell off all the players.

I always believe the final 20M add on discussion still on but it’s a bit hard, not as easy as few click at FM. Laporta just a dick trying to stir things up
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Then i really hope Barca go bust. Can't wait to see them sell off Pedri and Ansu Fati. Probably their last two valuable players besides FDJ...
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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Jul 3 2022, 11:36 PM)
Does anyone at all think that we are being played by Barca? It’s like Laporta just threatening FDJ with being sold if he doesn’t want to resign a lower salary contract?
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simple answer is - yes.

FDj saga will dragged and end up we got nothing. yes, we can still sign FDJ but not in this transfer window. ETH is stubbon which is good. so yeah, all out for FDJ and if we got nothing then just rebuild with mcfred and magelof , and without cristiano.

let ETh proof himself with this $hit team. give him a chance by supporting him until he got sacked by his own fans because he forced to play OLE ball.
OLE ball really fit this $hit team. play deep and counter. rashford can be our top scorer again. trust me. thumbsup.gif

without pogba, without matic, without cristiano, without greenwood laugh.gif laugh.gif

its going to be amazing season.

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another day, another no FDJ day yet... lol.... and one mini signing which cant even make ronaldo stays... lol... martinez just pay ajax what they want la... 10mil to a club like man utd is small piece of cake saje... unless we wanna use the 10mil to sign another lesser known star... ronaldo 500k a week wage shud be able to get someone else for us... but then the good scoring stikers nowadays... limited edition... maybe can try belloti... younger good ones... the market doesnt seems like alot options...
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did CR7 actually make the team worse?

the team didnt even play proper football the season before he come. just manage by getting the results huff and puff style by bruno and penalties. ole is just riding some good luck in terms of results via bruno and penalties.

since he joined, he actually become the top scorer by getting less chance than maguire with the ball forward.

eth deadline for signing is by 8 july.. today 4th already keks
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Ain't even mad that CR7 wants to leave. He only has probably about 2-3 more season left in him for him to gun for personal glory, and to be fair, Man Utd is not that place for him, unless he wants to hang around as an advisor + player to the squad.
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board will fire him when we turn against the team (due to bad results)...and blame him for poor performance.

Then only 5 years later when NDA expire will he come out and say the board failed (again) to get his targets. [This is already happened, with Mou, LVG, even Moyes]

In the end, if we want him to stick around we have to stay quiet like sheep, then accept whatever the crap that is being dished out to us week in week out. Top 4 celebrate like mad.

Its like getting a world class conductor and but all your musicians are 2nd rate.
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With this kind of transfer, ETH is bound to fail...

Unless under ETH magic existing players suddenly transformed and become good players, if not...

You know, if total demise is what it take for Glazers to let go of Man Utd, then so be it...The only silver lining if we don't do well later...
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QUOTE(tontolou @ Jul 4 2022, 11:28 AM)
Ain't even mad that CR7 wants to leave. He only has probably about 2-3 more season left in him for him to gun for personal glory, and to be fair, Man Utd is not that place for him, unless he wants to hang around as an advisor + player to the squad.
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Just disappointed. Who can mad and blame him if he leave. We don't have proper environment for him to thrive. And already wasted a season with us.

But if he remained, then really salute. Macam buffon stick to juve when relegated.
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The world and United best player opened the door for the manager and other players to speak out dissatisfaction on United's lack of ambition..

None of them come out.. looks like all of them ok with how things going on.. ETH looking like just another puppet..

CR7 the only one with winning mentality.. real winners like him dont wanna stick around with losers..
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Jul 4 2022, 02:29 PM)
The world and United best player opened the door for the manager and other players to speak out dissatisfaction on United's lack of ambition..

None of them come out.. looks like all of them ok with how things going on.. ETH looking like just another puppet..

CR7 the only one with winning mentality.. real winners like him dont wanna stick around with losers..
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well they can accuse CR of being too ambitious
but at the same time little done when United paid dividend to Glazers yearly
save fund for what? to pay more to the glazers?
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QUOTE(and85rew @ Jul 4 2022, 02:34 PM)
well they can accuse CR of being too ambitious
but at the same time little done when United paid dividend to Glazers yearly
save fund for what? to pay more to the glazers?
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The fans also the same..

When CR7 press on the field: oh he's 37 cannot press for 90min

When CR7 press the board: oh he's 37 not for rebuilding

Glazers truly lucky to get this club..
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Personally, I'll not lose any sleep if Ronaldo leaving, but I hope he will not go to PL rival. Chelsea often get it wrong when it come to striker these days, Ronaldo will improve them tremendously.

There are pro and con, and I wish the best outcome for him and us. I hope he go to Bayern Munich, just to prove he's absolutely the best. I'll be happy too if he stay.
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Ronaldo news really weird, he said he wanted to play UCL. He already knew that MU another going to play UCL during April and he really really want to play for UCL, he could have request to leave when EPL ended in May, why now only said want to play UCL football? Now no matter how he wants also UEFA can’t squeeze a place for us. He knew that early.

Now 3 teams interested on him:

1. Napoli - really? Serious? They can provide him UCL football but Napoli will never be Serie A contender this season, the Milans and Juve are teams to beat

2. Chelsea - UCL football but can feed him EPL cuz City by far still the best team in EPL now. Join Chelsea will just tainted his image as MU “legend”

3. Bayern - very possible considering direct replacement for Lewan if he is leaving for Barca. UCL football, one of the fav, Bundesliga guarantee winner.


If we able to sign FDJ, Martinez, Eriksen with confirmed arrival of Malacia and possible Pau if we have extra cash, this maybe, probably can make Ronaldo to stay.

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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Jul 4 2022, 03:44 PM)
Ronaldo news really weird, he said he wanted to play UCL. He already knew that MU another going to play UCL during April and he really really want to play for UCL, he could have request to leave when EPL ended in May, why now only said want to play UCL football? Now no matter how he wants also UEFA can’t squeeze a place for us. He knew that early.

Now 3 teams interested on him:

1. Napoli - really? Serious? They can provide him UCL football but Napoli will never be Serie A contender this season, the Milans and Juve are teams to beat

2. Chelsea - UCL football but can feed him EPL cuz City by far still the best team in EPL now. Join Chelsea will just tainted his image as MU “legend”

3. Bayern - very possible considering direct replacement for Lewan if he is leaving for Barca. UCL football, one of the fav, Bundesliga guarantee winner.
If we able to sign FDJ, Martinez, Eriksen with confirmed arrival of Malacia and possible Pau if we have extra cash, this maybe, probably can make Ronaldo to stay.
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Jul 4 2022, 03:44 PM)
Ronaldo news really weird, he said he wanted to play UCL. He already knew that MU another going to play UCL during April and he really really want to play for UCL, he could have request to leave when EPL ended in May, why now only said want to play UCL football? Now no matter how he wants also UEFA can’t squeeze a place for us. He knew that early.

Now 3 teams interested on him:

1. Napoli - really? Serious? They can provide him UCL football but Napoli will never be Serie A contender this season, the Milans and Juve are teams to beat

2. Chelsea - UCL football but can feed him EPL cuz City by far still the best team in EPL now. Join Chelsea will just tainted his image as MU “legend”

3. Bayern - very possible considering direct replacement for Lewan if he is leaving for Barca. UCL football, one of the fav, Bundesliga guarantee winner.
If we able to sign FDJ, Martinez, Eriksen with confirmed arrival of Malacia and possible Pau if we have extra cash, this maybe, probably can make Ronaldo to stay.
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Players nowadays have PR team to maintain image while having agent working in the background …

When news are broken, it’s usually a power move from the player to force the club

It’s normal these days and don’t even once fully accept the reasons given
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PR moves on demonizing CR7 in full force now..
Allowing Glazers escape the spotlight of scrutiny again..
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PR moves on demonizing CR7 in full force now..
Allowing Glazers escape the spotlight of scrutiny again..
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lol biar je la... takkan u expect the fans go burn the club stadium just to show them whose fault on why ronaldo wanna leave... haha
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CR7 is well within his rights to move. The club hasn't exactly strengthened in the summer transfer window so far while our rivals have. CR7 will continue to be one of the best performing players in a mediocre team and that doesn't look to be changing in the footballing side. Mediocre teams do not win anything.

He has kept his side of the bargain with the performances he put in. Manchester United has not met expectations with him, nor the fans.

Wherever he goes, if he does, I'll keep an eye out for that team to watch their games.

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Have not seen many ppl demonise CR7 for wanting to leave

General consensus is if he wants to leave, let him go and dont “imprison” him

However, some ppl just wanna stick labels onto fans who agree with the club to sell CR7 (if the club wanna sell)

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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Jul 4 2022, 05:59 PM)
lol biar je la... takkan u expect the fans go burn the club stadium just to show them whose fault on why ronaldo wanna leave... haha
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Should be he same level of response towards ESL..
The amount of power if the fans and ETH on CR7 side, can force the Glazers to spend..

Missed opportunity again.. oh well
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Jul 4 2022, 03:44 PM)
Ronaldo news really weird, he said he wanted to play UCL. He already knew that MU another going to play UCL during April and he really really want to play for UCL, he could have request to leave when EPL ended in May, why now only said want to play UCL football? Now no matter how he wants also UEFA can’t squeeze a place for us. He knew that early.

Now 3 teams interested on him:

1. Napoli - really? Serious? They can provide him UCL football but Napoli will never be Serie A contender this season, the Milans and Juve are teams to beat

2. Chelsea - UCL football but can feed him EPL cuz City by far still the best team in EPL now. Join Chelsea will just tainted his image as MU “legend”

3. Bayern - very possible considering direct replacement for Lewan if he is leaving for Barca. UCL football, one of the fav, Bundesliga guarantee winner.
If we able to sign FDJ, Martinez, Eriksen with confirmed arrival of Malacia and possible Pau if we have extra cash, this maybe, probably can make Ronaldo to stay.
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Cincai say only, takkan say, I pretty sure will be trophiless season again.

If he go, I hope he go bayern or psg. Then can win another country league title.

If chronology rumour correct, he say will stay if eth wants him. Eth wants him obviously. Now dunwan stay, very obvious he disappointed with team transfers.

If we get 4-5 new players, maybe he will stay

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However, reports on Monday claimed that it was United that considered Ronaldo's future earlier this year.

According to The Athletic, former interim manager Ralf Rangnick wanted to sell Ronaldo during the January transfer window as the forward was hindering what he was trying to implement at the club: a high-pressing side.

Rangnick reportedly asked football director John Murtough and chief executive officer Richard Arnold, via several emails and messages, to consider selling the Portuguese superstar as he felt convinced the No 7 wasn't a part of the club's long-term plans.


Noob. Tak tau manage, kasi jual aje. Bring all kids play sure got energy gen gen
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Jul 4 2022, 06:34 PM)
However, reports on Monday claimed that it was United that considered Ronaldo's future earlier this year.

According to The Athletic, former interim manager Ralf Rangnick wanted to sell Ronaldo during the January transfer window as the forward was hindering what he was trying to implement at the club: a high-pressing side.

Rangnick reportedly asked football director John Murtough and chief executive officer Richard Arnold, via several emails and messages, to consider selling the Portuguese superstar as he felt convinced the No 7 wasn't a part of the club's long-term plans.
Noob. Tak tau manage, kasi jual aje. Bring all kids play sure got energy gen gen
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Based on statistics
RR or United lost more w/o CR
Keep on faith with Rashford? If he failed this season, confirm Welbeck 2.0..something which is dubious due to his activist commitment

With Cristiano Ronaldo starting
Games: 35
Wins: 17
Draws: 7
Defeats: 11

Points per game: 1.65
Win rate: 48.5%
Loss rate: 31.4%

Goals: 55
Goals per game: 1.57
Goals against: 50
Goals against per game: 1.42

Without Cristiano Ronaldo starting
Games: 14
Wins: 3
Draws: 7
Defeats: 4

Points per game: 1.14
Win rate: 21.4%
Loss rate: 28.5%

Goals: 16
Goals per game: 1.14
Goals against: 19
Goals against per game: 1.35

https://www.planetfootball.com/quick-reads/...ldo-in-2021-22/

So who is the problem? Ralf? With that headless pressing? Towards end of RR era..it is as bad as Ole era

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skysports & espn reports that eriksen set to join MU..legit?

update news...fabrizio romano already said here we go..... confirmed already...

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QUOTE(skystrike @ Jul 4 2022, 07:32 PM)
skysports & espn reports that eriksen set to join MU..legit?

update news...fabrizio romano already said here we go..... confirmed already...
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His Here We Go on Malacia to Lyon already failed once


Let’s hope it’s true this time
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QUOTE(and85rew @ Jul 4 2022, 06:53 PM)
Keep on faith with Rashford? If he failed this season, confirm Welbeck 2.0..something which is dubious due to his activist commitment
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Ahh, Rashford being Welbeck 2.0.
Here are the numbers :

Marcus Rashford. Club career 303 appearances. 93 goals.
International 46 appearances 12 goals.

Danny Welbeck. Club career 375 appearances. 84 goals.
International 42 appearances 16 goals.


Not such a big difference between the two.
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as long as we don't play Eriksen like Mata (play in RW when he is CAM), he should be a very good signing
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as long as we don't play Eriksen like Mata (play in RW when he is CAM), he should be a very good signing
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Eriksen functions in Bruno's role. In trying to accommodate both, one might be used out of formation.
Unless Ten Hag tries to do Ancelotti's famous Christmas tree formation of dual CAMs from AC Milan.

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QUOTE(natx001 @ Jul 4 2022, 07:48 PM)
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Already on soccernet bro

https://www.espn.com/soccer/soccer-transfer...-united-sources

Christian Eriksen agrees three-year deal with Man United - sources

Christian Eriksen has agreed to join Manchester United, sources have told ESPN.

The midfielder, who is a free agent, is set to sign a three-year deal once a medical is completed.

The 30-year-old spent the second half of last season at Brentford where he scored once in 11 games. He has turned down the chance to re-sign for Brentford to move to Old Trafford.

Tottenham also lodged an interest in Eriksen but after Antonio Conte stepped back from a deal, United were able to swoop in.

Eriksen is set to become Erik ten Hag's second signing of the summer after the capture of 22-year-old Netherlands left-back Tyrell Malacia from Feyenoord.

It is the latest step in a remarkable comeback for Eriksen, who suffered a cardiac arrest playing for Denmark at last summer's European Championship.

His contract at Inter Milan was officially terminated in December 2021 and he signed from Brentford as a free agent in January 2022.

He was instrumental in helping Brentford finish 13th in the Premier League in their first season in the top flight following promotion from the Championship with his fine form ensuring interest from a host of clubs across Europe.

United have won the race for his signature and he will be part of Ten Hag's new era at Old Trafford.
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QUOTE(natx001 @ Jul 4 2022, 07:48 PM)
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When David Onstein, Fabrizo announced, it’s 99% done deal u less get hijack like Malacia’s deal

Barca announced Kessie, meaning FDJ getting closer

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Add in 2 more free agents - Diybala and Suarez.... get FDJ, Malacia and the other midfielder hijacked from Arsenal... convince Ronnie to stay.... I will consider it a very successful transfer window liao...

Hey, I can dream.

Or..... if Ronnie wants to go... swap with Bayern for Leadawanski.... tongue.gif

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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Jul 4 2022, 08:30 PM)
Add in 2 more free agents - Diybala and Suarez.... get FDJ, Malacia and the other midfielder hijacked from Arsenal... convince Ronnie to stay.... I will consider it a very successful transfer window liao...

Hey, I can dream.
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Luis Suarez?

you kidding? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Jul 4 2022, 08:33 PM)
Luis Suarez?

you kidding?  tongue.gif
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Love this guy back then when he was in Spurs, but he went to Inter Milan instead. I am concerned for his health but anyway, here, we, go!


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I am surprised Eriksen choose to come.

Tbh, I don't think Ten Hag will use him as 1st eleven so much, due to this health condition.
Will be as sub when Bruno is not performing, and cups' lineup.
Of course also when Bruno in slump period.

I know some of u might argue he is better than Bruno, he shud be lineup.
But his health condition won't allow him to play 30 full games in a season.
May be 20 also hard.

But no worry, thanks to 5 subs rule next season,
I am sure we will see him regularly instead just sitting on the bench.

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QUOTE(DarkWan @ Jul 4 2022, 08:38 PM)
Love this guy back then when he was in Spurs, but he went to Inter Milan instead. I am concerned for his health but anyway, here, we, go!


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That's really him in MU Jersey.... or photoshop?
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next martinez!
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Jul 4 2022, 09:01 PM)
next martinez!
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If Ronaldo leaving, use the money to buy another striker
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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Jul 4 2022, 08:30 PM)
Add in 2 more free agents - Diybala and Suarez.... get FDJ, Malacia and the other midfielder hijacked from Arsenal... convince Ronnie to stay.... I will consider it a very successful transfer window liao...

Hey, I can dream.

Or..... if Ronnie wants to go... swap with Bayern for Leadawanski.... tongue.gif
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Oh ya. Suarez is a good one. No ppl buy pulak.

Surprised Eriksen coming. 2 transfers liao lol.
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Oklah. Beggars cannot be choosers (even if our club is rich). Ada shape already. Hopefully as per people talk above, fdj, martinez and lewandowski swap with ronaldo 👀
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QUOTE(damnself @ Jul 4 2022, 09:27 PM)
Oklah. Beggars cannot be choosers (even if our club is rich). Ada shape already. Hopefully as per people talk above, fdj, martinez and lewandowski swap with ronaldo 👀
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the player that MU sign & rumours now it either related to dutch or ajax....eriksen was ex-ajax btw 🤣🤣🤣
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OH YES ERIKSEN HERE WE GO

WHICH MEANS... DE JONG IS CUMING
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QUOTE(orga_laut @ Jul 4 2022, 11:16 PM)
OH YES ERIKSEN HERE WE GO

WHICH MEANS... DE JONG IS CUMING
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Barca officially announced both Kessie and Christensen as their free signing

Well… FDJ maybe still thinking

ETH building a team to feed Ronaldo but now Ronaldo wanted to leave… and now want FDJ, Eriksen, Bruno to feed Martial and Rashford? LOL
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...-headlines.html

Suddenly everything looks positive lol.
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Top class signing this one.. hope goes through..
Need more of class player signing like this..
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Jul 5 2022, 12:20 AM)
Top class signing this one.. hope goes through..
Need more of class player signing like this..
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Imagine if we have FDJ, Eriksen, Bruno, Sancho who can provide crosses, direct passes but front is Rashford/ Martial 😂😂😂
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kinda dick move if ronaldo really made that leave request. i mean, i would have been ok if he tells us he wants to leave earlier. not now when the season starting
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Imagine if we have FDJ, Eriksen, Bruno, Sancho who can provide crosses, direct passes but front is Rashford/ Martial 😂😂😂
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Not really a fan of Eriksen. His playmaking and creativity are below Fernandes. He love to shoot, very useful in a tight game.

But I approve this transfer, obviously as an alternative to Fernandes.
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kinda dick move if ronaldo really made that leave request. i mean, i would have been ok if he tells us he wants to leave earlier. not now when the season starting
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But previously at Juventus, he also made it till very late to leave the club... Hopefully he is doing this just to push the Board to make more signings. But Ronaldo in Europa League, I'm not sure if his ego and pride can swallow it or not..
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Imagine if we have FDJ, Eriksen, Bruno, Sancho who can provide crosses, direct passes but front is Rashford/ Martial 😂😂😂
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We lost the heading ability without ronaldo or cavani. If rashford martial can rediscover form, also not bad. If la haha.

They hit 20 goals a season each under ole first year.

I don't buy cr7 want ucl reason. If this is the reason, he already say leave when season end. Most likely pressuring board on transfers, wait and see.


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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Jul 5 2022, 10:14 AM)
We lost the heading ability without ronaldo or cavani. If rashford martial can rediscover form, also not bad. If la haha.

They hit 20 goals a season each under ole first year.

I don't buy cr7 want ucl reason. If this is the reason, he already say leave when season end. Most likely pressuring board on transfers, wait and see.
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Jul 5 2022, 10:14 AM)
We lost the heading ability without ronaldo or cavani. If rashford martial can rediscover form, also not bad. If la haha.

They hit 20 goals a season each under ole first year.

I don't buy cr7 want ucl reason. If this is the reason, he already say leave when season end. Most likely pressuring board on transfers, wait and see.
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man city also never reli rely on heading capabilities to score goals... before haaland join, u see their front 3... got which one can win alot aerial duels one? haha... most important is the supply and the teamplay... of course if we have striker who can head, then we will have bonus advantage... but i feel we have to learn how to score alot of goals first which was a major problem last season... rashford and martial cant play in front of crowd kot... they are better without the crowds... lol
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Jul 5 2022, 10:31 AM)
Agree on this bro. He knew it since Apr when we didn’t qualified for UCL, by the time EPL ended May, he could have request for transfer
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seems like ETH wanna push for martinez deal and keep calm on the FDJ deal since barca there flip flop like a lady... if they wanna buy lewandowski, its better to sort out the FDJ issues fast... and with kessie also joined dy... i doubt FDJ have a spot in barca anymore...
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Anyone feel Eriksen comes a few years too late? Remember we were linked with him before he left for Inter and even that time I was like meh.
Of course at his peak, a considerable threat due to his stinger missiles....but in a tiki taka or whatever high press mumbo jumbo system he needs to put in the shift no?

Not to mention nowadays all the long range shooting is done by Herr Ronaldo and Bruno. How many times we wanna strike row Z in a match? Ok, if Ronaldo goes (against my personal hopes)...maybe just enough shooting.
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Jul 4 2022, 09:12 PM)
Yes, hopefully wrap up FDJ as well

If Ronaldo leaving, use the money to buy another striker
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Like who? We dont have money apparently and there is no cheap 20 goal strikers around, we legit are going to be screwed if he leaves.
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QUOTE(callmecool @ Jul 5 2022, 09:07 AM)
But previously at Juventus, he also made it till very late to leave the club... Hopefully he is doing this just to push the Board to make more signings. But Ronaldo in Europa League, I'm not sure if his ego and pride can swallow it or not..
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QUOTE(simmarjit @ Jul 5 2022, 11:00 AM)
Like who? We dont have money apparently and there is no cheap 20 goal strikers around, we legit are going to be screwed if he leaves.
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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Jul 5 2022, 10:51 AM)
Anyone feel Eriksen comes a few years too late? Remember we were linked with him before he left for Inter and even that time I was like meh.
Of course at his peak, a considerable threat due to his stinger missiles....but in a tiki taka or whatever high press mumbo jumbo system he needs to put in the shift no?

Not to mention nowadays all the long range shooting is done by Herr Ronaldo and Bruno. How many times we wanna strike row Z in a match? Ok, if Ronaldo goes (against my personal hopes)...maybe just enough shooting.
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He is free and he isnt going to be first choice, we need bodies in midfield with our outgoings as well. I would say win-win for everyone.
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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Jul 5 2022, 10:51 AM)
Anyone feel Eriksen comes a few years too late? Remember we were linked with him before he left for Inter and even that time I was like meh.
Of course at his peak, a considerable threat due to his stinger missiles....but in a tiki taka or whatever high press mumbo jumbo system he needs to put in the shift no?

Not to mention nowadays all the long range shooting is done by Herr Ronaldo and Bruno. How many times we wanna strike row Z in a match? Ok, if Ronaldo goes (against my personal hopes)...maybe just enough shooting.
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his passing still better than bruno if compared to the bruno of last season who made alot of hollywood passes and also misplaced passes... lol... he is definitely suitable for tiki taka shits and second half sub in player... if u wan him press from the start... we would be seeing him in hospital very soon...
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Jul 5 2022, 11:02 AM)
belloti... but italian strikers seldom do well in EPL, at least its been long time since paolo di canio... lol
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20 goals striker dude, Belloti has reached that only once and that is in 2016/17, i rather rely on Martial LOL he also has reached it once.
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QUOTE(simmarjit @ Jul 5 2022, 11:05 AM)
20 goals striker dude, Belloti has reached that only once and that is in 2016/17, i rather rely on Martial LOL he also has reached it once.
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I don’t even wanna mention his heart condition which is between him and God almighty.

As a squad player maybe…but we still have urgent holes in first 11. So please, let us get back to the main show and not the side show.
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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Jul 5 2022, 10:51 AM)
Anyone feel Eriksen comes a few years too late? Remember we were linked with him before he left for Inter and even that time I was like meh.
Of course at his peak, a considerable threat due to his stinger missiles....but in a tiki taka or whatever high press mumbo jumbo system he needs to put in the shift no?

Not to mention nowadays all the long range shooting is done by Herr Ronaldo and Bruno. How many times we wanna strike row Z in a match? Ok, if Ronaldo goes (against my personal hopes)...maybe just enough shooting.
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Never in my wishlist, before this season. But now we are beggars. Anything also good lol
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Ten Hag made it clear, he will not tolerate sideways and backwards passing — subbing off players in training who do not play forward. Players must improve on their fitness and ‘unacceptable’ body language from last term.

I hope this will last many seasons
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well...
inside my heart, i would like ronaldo to stay....

but to be honest, we need to start rebuild for future which mean get new young fresh blood+ let them bonded together....

i dont think we are gonna challenge for anything next year....personally i would like to see ronaldo on another high stage compare on staying here....hopefully not same league only....
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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Jul 5 2022, 10:51 AM)
Anyone feel Eriksen comes a few years too late? Remember we were linked with him before he left for Inter and even that time I was like meh.
Of course at his peak, a considerable threat due to his stinger missiles....but in a tiki taka or whatever high press mumbo jumbo system he needs to put in the shift no?

Not to mention nowadays all the long range shooting is done by Herr Ronaldo and Bruno. How many times we wanna strike row Z in a match? Ok, if Ronaldo goes (against my personal hopes)...maybe just enough shooting.
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a few years too late as first choice starter for 40 games yes. but we shouldnt need to rely him to start 40 games a season. role should be rotation player but with impact.

still hopeful for neves even if fdj is arriving.

if ronaldo i leaving no hard feelings. dude is still a beast and deserved better. hope we can get a cheaper deal and try jovic.
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Hopefully can sign FDJ and martinez. Might miss Antony if we sign martinez. If CR7 wants to leave what to do...hmm...eriksen probably will be used sparingly since he can play many positions.
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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Jul 4 2022, 08:47 PM)
That's really him in MU Jersey.... or photoshop?
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QUOTE(simmarjit @ Jul 5 2022, 11:00 AM)
Like who? We dont have money apparently and there is no cheap 20 goal strikers around, we legit are going to be screwed if he leaves.
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QUOTE(DarkWan @ Jul 5 2022, 12:40 PM)
Looks like Photoshop for me  laugh.gif
Based on our trend of signing up free agents, I think we will go after Paulo Dybala.
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Jul 5 2022, 11:50 AM)
Ten Hag made it clear, he will not tolerate sideways and backwards passing — subbing off players in training who do not play forward. Players must improve on their fitness and ‘unacceptable’ body language from last term.

I hope this will last many seasons
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I guess that interprets into "attack at all costs"?
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QUOTE(DarkWan @ Jul 5 2022, 12:40 PM)
Looks like Photoshop for me  laugh.gif
Based on our trend of signing up free agents, I think we will go after Paulo Dybala.
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Dybala and Suarez?

Sure why not? It's free after all whistling.gif
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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Jul 5 2022, 12:48 PM)
Dybala and Suarez?

Sure why not? It's free after all whistling.gif
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Then the "rebuild with young players with minimum wage, for the future" thats been touted around gonna look like complete ass..
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Jul 5 2022, 01:03 PM)
Then the "rebuild with young players with minimum wage, for the future" thats been touted around gonna look like complete ass..
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sometimes say is easy... but its been so many seasons we have elderly as our main striker... ibra, cavani and ronaldo... the young ones... martial, rashford, lukaku, greenwood all unsustainable... doh.gif doh.gif
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Jul 5 2022, 12:03 PM)
a few years too late as first choice starter for 40 games yes. but we shouldnt need to rely [insert XYZ] to start 40 games a season. role should be rotation player but with impact.

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This is what MUFC has become. A team of non-starters and collection of impact subs......

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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Jul 5 2022, 12:46 PM)
I guess that interprets into "attack at all costs"?
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to me sounds like ready for bocor season cause defends cant make it. so better just outscore them at all cost. will buy if it works haha
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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Jul 5 2022, 01:38 PM)
This is what MUFC has become. A team of non-starters and collection of impact subs......
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Jul 5 2022, 01:36 PM)
sometimes say is easy... but its been so many seasons we have elderly as our main striker... ibra, cavani and ronaldo... the young ones... martial, rashford, lukaku, greenwood all unsustainable...  doh.gif  doh.gif
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Experienced winners like Cristiano, Eriksen, Zlatan are important to have around..
Guiding those young ones the importance of winning and improving constantly..

Without these real alpha figures, players like Rashford, McT, Bruno and Maguire think they have made it at the top already..
Then the younger ones looking at these losers as their benchmark..
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Should be 3 signings in 24 hours
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QUOTE(syzwn @ Jul 5 2022, 03:36 PM)
For those who bought ticket for Thailand tour to see CR7 going to be disappointed, he most likely not be there.


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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Jul 5 2022, 04:31 PM)
For those who bought ticket for Thailand tour to see CR7 going to be disappointed, he most likely not be there.
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We'll get to see the new signings instead and some legends will be there as ambassadors. If his personal glory is more important than the team, then move on if there is a bid for him.
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Well well well CR7
Needs to make public statement
Stay or go
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Well well well CR7
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Nobody is bigger than club and wish him all the best (stay or gone)
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Already say ma, if got suitable offer, then pls accept lol. Cr7 will go Thailand cause there is contract obligation
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QUOTE(and85rew @ Jul 5 2022, 04:47 PM)
Well well well CR7
Needs to make public statement
Stay or go
Nobody is bigger than club and wish him all the best (stay or gone)
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he sendiri also dun dare to clear the rumours... lol.... regardless also wont blame him no matter which he choose... he already carried us thru a horrendous season... i think we at least expect to reach no.2 and some finals with the signing we made last season... but yea... worse than ole's full season... tongue.gif tongue.gif
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Jul 5 2022, 04:58 PM)
Already say ma, if got suitable offer, then pls accept lol. Cr7 will go Thailand cause there is contract obligation
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Jul 5 2022, 05:04 PM)
he sendiri also dun dare to clear the rumours... lol.... regardless also wont blame him no matter which he choose... he already carried us thru a horrendous season... i think we at least expect to reach no.2 and some finals with the signing we made last season... but yea... worse than ole's full season...  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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I hope he go to bayern la and finish his career on high note
Will not blame..he had done enough with this poor team/management
Imagine infrastructure is worse than when he left

ETH skipped Ajax celebration in order to start early
Yet this management screwed up again (so far)
Good luck this upcoming season
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if CR wanna go not to PL team thats it.

definitely will need a replacement
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Mauricio Pochettino left PSG

not sure kena sacked, resigned or mutual consent?

He was so close becoming our Manager. sweat.gif

Source: BBC https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/62050054

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QUOTE(MamulaMoon @ Jul 5 2022, 06:55 PM)
Mauricio Pochettino left PSG

not sure kena sacked, resigned or mutual consent?

He was so close becoming our Manager. sweat.gif

Source: BBC https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/62050054
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Sacked.
He was finished when Mbappe signed his new contract and PSG became Mbappe FC.

Mbappe doesn't like him.
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Barca leaked FDJ’s contract

Surely we will sign him now?
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Barca leaked FDJ’s contract

Surely we will sign him now?
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For me whichever way it ends up, I'm fine.

If we finally sign FDJ, there's no more excitement. Just glad it's over.
And if we don't sign FDJ, will be happy to see how Barca screwed their wage over the limit and what La Liga will do.

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Well CR7 can ask for transfer but should not skip training la. That means you don’t put in the same effort as your team mates. Not pro.

Time to move on.
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Welcome Malacia! Finally announced

Some interesting reading on FDJ contract

https://amp.marca.com/en/football/barcelona...c10d8b4588.html
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Jul 5 2022, 09:18 PM)
Welcome Malacia! Finally announced

Some interesting reading on FDJ contract

https://amp.marca.com/en/football/barcelona...c10d8b4588.html
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Jul 5 2022, 09:18 PM)
Welcome Malacia! Finally announced

Some interesting reading on FDJ contract

https://amp.marca.com/en/football/barcelona...c10d8b4588.html
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this is not salary issue for Barca but actually DEFERRED back pay and contractual bonuses that they have pay...so interesting.....If I was FDJ then all I have to do is sit tight and ka ching.

Looks like he already did the decent thing and deferred his humongous salary during the pandemic lows, now the slimy Barca management want to avoid paying even that. Why would anyone want to support this club or even dream of playing for this club, that is beyond me. A slimy, dirty management. No wonder he doesn't want to leave. There is much more to be made by staying than actually signing any shiny contract.

No wonder Barca needs to sell him...that's like getting FDJ to play for free for the last 2 years.

I lost my respect for this club which I used to support back in Rivaldo days. Wish them get every single thing they deserve and more. So for FDJ to actually agree to a transfer, this will mean a super entangled negotiation. I do not envy anyone needing to figure out how much goes to who in this case. Looks like Barca should get nothing. And they'd have to contractually back pay FDJ even after cancelling his contract. We shouldn't be getting into this financial clusterfucuk.
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Ronaldo to Chelsea to break the no 9 curse LOL
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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Jul 5 2022, 10:25 PM)
this is not salary issue for Barca but actually DEFERRED back pay and contractual bonuses that they have pay...so interesting.....If I was FDJ then all I have to do is sit tight and ka ching.

Looks like he already did the decent thing and deferred his humongous salary during the pandemic lows, now the slimy Barca management want to avoid paying even that. Why would anyone want to support this club or even dream of playing for this club, that is beyond me. A slimy, dirty management. No wonder he doesn't want to leave. There is much more to be made by staying than actually signing any shiny contract.

No wonder Barca needs to sell him...that's like getting FDJ to play for free for the last 2 years.

I lost my respect for this club which I used to support back in Rivaldo days. Wish them get every single thing they deserve and more. So for FDJ to actually agree to a transfer, this will mean a super entangled negotiation. I do not envy anyone needing to figure out how much goes to who in this case. Looks like Barca should get nothing. And they'd have to contractually back pay FDJ even after cancelling his contract. We shouldn't be getting into this financial clusterfucuk.
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Jul 5 2022, 10:31 PM)
https://twitter.com/trollfootball/status/15...LYXEgl2_j564z0g

Ronaldo to Chelsea to break the no 9 curse LOL
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Barca are just a huge mess, they didnt even pay Vidal fee to Bayern, so Bayern sold the debt to the bank to collect.
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Meanwhile they still want to sign this sign that player then ask existing players cut wages lol
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Meanwhile they still want to sign this sign that player then ask existing players cut wages lol
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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Jul 5 2022, 08:27 PM)
Well CR7 can ask for transfer but should not skip training la. That means you don’t put in the same effort as your team mates. Not pro.

Time to move on.
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He never did this before.. at Sporting, United, Madrid and Juve.. only now..

The club's biggest commercial asset not going for pre-season money making tour..
New kit sales will take a hit because of uncertainty of him staying or leaving..

He's hurting Glazers pocket.. i love it..

If he stays, he will join the training session after money making tour for sure..
He's a machine, bet he will be much fitter than Luke Shaw before season starts anyway..
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Jul 6 2022, 12:33 AM)
He never did this before.. at Sporting, United, Madrid and Juve.. only now..

The club's biggest commercial asset not going for pre-season money making tour..
New kit sales will take a hit because of uncertainty of him staying or leaving..

He's hurting Glazers pocket.. i love it..

If he stays, he will join the training session after money making tour for sure..
He's a machine, bet he will be much fitter than Luke Shaw before season starts anyway..
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While CR7 didn’t skip pre-season training at Juve, but he requested last min transfer request. Which made Juve went for a search for another forward at last min. It might not seem as unprofessional but still stings at that action he’s made.
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QUOTE(trex9999 @ Jul 6 2022, 02:57 AM)
While CR7 didn’t skip pre-season training at Juve, but he requested last min transfer request. Which made Juve went for a search for another forward at last min. It might not seem as unprofessional but still stings at that action he’s made.
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Same situation like United, even if CR7 stay the need to sign another striker should not be overlooked..
Now that he's going, 2 strikers should be signed..
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dybala inkambing.... dunno can we afford his salary or not... even if we can also i feel he is gonna be another sanchez je... south american player in man utd... doesnt feel in sync....
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No dybala. Ya feel like jogba or sanchez aje
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Jul 6 2022, 09:31 AM)
dybala inkambing.... dunno can we afford his salary or not... even if we can also i feel he is gonna be another sanchez je... south american player in man utd... doesnt feel in sync....
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really? thought he was sort of trouble in juve all these while.. if only greenwood no fakap.. now need rely on rashford as backup with his wasteful 3rd tier decision making..

masial > rashford if no gf issue..
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Jul 6 2022, 10:01 AM)
really? thought he was sort of trouble in juve all these while.. if only greenwood no fakap.. now need rely on rashford as backup with his wasteful 3rd tier decision making..

masial > rashford if no gf issue..
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martial still have hope ka? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Jul 6 2022, 10:02 AM)
martial still have hope ka?  laugh.gif
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if got choice for others surely no la.. then again if rashford since lvg time still have hope.... masial surely got.. better finisher than rashford but always got gf wife issue...
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hopefully ronaldo can make it clear to stay or leave as soon as possible....
frankly say, i wish he join another league club rather than EPL
but i dont mind if he join chelsea in attempt to break the dominance of liverpool + man city....

hopefully he wont make last minute transfer like juventus....

if we can receive some payment + clear the some wage cap, i think it win win situation since i dont see we gonna challenge for any title next season + able to let the new team some time to gel together with new younger striker....
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Jul 6 2022, 10:01 AM)
really? thought he was sort of trouble in juve all these while.. if only greenwood no fakap.. now need rely on rashford as backup with his wasteful 3rd tier decision making..

masial > rashford if no gf issue..
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both actually can be better if one tak de gf issue and another takde dato-dato issue... tongue.gif tongue.gif dybala still better than these 3 because he keep winning trophies before although serie A not exactly that competitive... compared to our young three trident, dybala issues abang adik je, see ETH can control or not
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I hope he joins Chelski prove how shiat United board is
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Jul 6 2022, 10:20 AM)
both actually can be better if one tak de gf issue and another takde dato-dato issue...  tongue.gif  tongue.gif dybala still better than these 3 because he keep winning trophies before although serie A not exactly that competitive... compared to our young three trident, dybala issues abang adik je, see ETH can control or not
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Jogba also won serie a.

Demanding high salary is almost a red flag. How many can perform with high salary. Flop more than perform. Next season you see salah flop lol
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Jul 6 2022, 10:53 AM)
Jogba also won serie a.

Demanding high salary is almost a red flag. How many can perform with high salary. Flop more than perform. Next season you see salah flop lol
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Dybala sure flop i think. cant even see him performing well in serie A. and he is so skinny, will kena whacked in EPL... and he's bff with pogba, better not bring in another virus biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Jul 6 2022, 10:53 AM)
Jogba also won serie a.

Demanding high salary is almost a red flag. How many can perform with high salary. Flop more than perform. Next season you see salah flop lol
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QUOTE(callmecool @ Jul 6 2022, 10:55 AM)
Dybala sure flop i think. cant even see him performing well in serie A. and he is so skinny, will kena whacked in EPL... and he's bff with pogba, better not bring in another virus biggrin.gif
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if just based on trophies yea dybala is better... but i dont think he can survive epl... even shevchenko who scoring for fun in serie a... come to EPL become a little cat only... how many serie a strikers succeeded in EPL before except ronaldo? and with his age, no high salary at least de gea level... i dont think he will join... better let those big spenders like chelsea, psg get him...
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So far, I have not see a lot of players playing in Italy actually able to perform in EPL. Italy league's tempo is slower, less aggressive compare to EPL. Players in Italy has more time with the ball compare to players in EPL because when you have the ball in EPL, you will either get tackle immediately or being... hit aside.

So... no Dybala please. It will not work.

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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Jul 6 2022, 10:20 AM)
both actually can be better if one tak de gf issue and another takde dato-dato issue...  tongue.gif  tongue.gif dybala still better than these 3 because he keep winning trophies before although serie A not exactly that competitive... compared to our young three trident, dybala issues abang adik je, see ETH can control or not
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QUOTE(hocksoo @ Jul 6 2022, 11:41 AM)
So far, I have not see a lot of players playing in Italy actually able to perform in EPL. Italy league's tempo is slower, less aggressive compare to EPL. Players in Italy has more time with the ball compare to players in EPL because when you have the ball in EPL, you will either get tackle immediately or being... hit aside.

So... no Dybala please. It will not work.
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QUOTE(hocksoo @ Jul 6 2022, 11:41 AM)
So far, I have not see a lot of players playing in Italy actually able to perform in EPL. Italy league's tempo is slower, less aggressive compare to EPL. Players in Italy has more time with the ball compare to players in EPL because when you have the ball in EPL, you will either get tackle immediately or being... hit aside.

So... no Dybala please. It will not work.
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United's top 3 transfer positions are still CDM, CB, RW.

None of which are currently filled. If Ronaldo goes, definitely need a forward.
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jul 6 2022, 12:27 PM)
United's top 3 transfer positions are still CDM, CB, RW.

None of which are currently filled. If Ronaldo goes, definitely need a forward.
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everyone know we despo for these 3 positions, all holding us ransom... lol... we can only sprung surprises on those positions we din openly say we need doh.gif doh.gif
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Jul 6 2022, 11:04 AM)
if just based on trophies yea dybala is better... but i dont think he can survive epl... even shevchenko who scoring for fun in serie a... come to EPL become a little cat only... how many serie a strikers succeeded in EPL before except ronaldo? and with his age, no high salary at least de gea level... i dont think he will join... better let those big spenders like chelsea, psg get him...
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Haha Ronaldo is different specimen laugh.gif

Hope he stays another year icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jul 6 2022, 12:27 PM)
United's top 3 transfer positions are still CDM, CB, RW.

None of which are currently filled. If Ronaldo goes, definitely need a forward.
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Hopefully with Ajax getting Bergwijn, their stance on Antony softens. And we legit need Ronaldo to stay or we are in big trouble larh because we are going to rely on Rashford and Martial and nobody know which version of them is going to show up.
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Jul 6 2022, 12:32 PM)
everyone know we despo for these 3 positions, all holding us ransom... lol... we can only sprung surprises on those positions we din openly say we need  doh.gif  doh.gif
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FDJ. Lisandro. Antony.
If we get all three, there is hope for the season.

QUOTE(simmarjit @ Jul 6 2022, 12:44 PM)
Hopefully with Ajax getting Bergwijn, their stance on Antony softens. And we legit need Ronaldo to stay or we are in big trouble larh because we are going to rely on Rashford and Martial and nobody know which version of them is going to show up.
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Martial is much better at CF than most would give him credit for, at least way better than Rashford.
Who knows, ETH may just stick Bruno upfront and play Eriksen behind him.
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Lisandro is a must. Hard to find good CB compared to Attackers.
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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Jul 5 2022, 10:25 PM)
this is not salary issue for Barca but actually DEFERRED back pay and contractual bonuses that they have pay...so interesting.....If I was FDJ then all I have to do is sit tight and ka ching.

Looks like he already did the decent thing and deferred his humongous salary during the pandemic lows, now the slimy Barca management want to avoid paying even that. Why would anyone want to support this club or even dream of playing for this club, that is beyond me. A slimy, dirty management. No wonder he doesn't want to leave. There is much more to be made by staying than actually signing any shiny contract.

No wonder Barca needs to sell him...that's like getting FDJ to play for free for the last 2 years.

I lost my respect for this club which I used to support back in Rivaldo days. Wish them get every single thing they deserve and more. So for FDJ to actually agree to a transfer, this will mean a super entangled negotiation. I do not envy anyone needing to figure out how much goes to who in this case. Looks like Barca should get nothing. And they'd have to contractually back pay FDJ even after cancelling his contract. We shouldn't be getting into this financial clusterfucuk.
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That’s why the negotiation took so long, it’s from Barca’s side.
Even the 20M add ons settle, Barca still have to dig their own pocket to pay the deferred payment which in this point of time a bomb for them.

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jul 6 2022, 12:52 PM)
FDJ. Lisandro. Antony.
If we get all three, there is hope for the season.
Martial is much better at CF than most would give him credit for, at least way better than Rashford.
Who knows, ETH may just stick Bruno upfront and play Eriksen behind him.
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i feel these 3 signing maybe we can only see them in august... lol...

bruno can replicate what ETH did for dusan tadic with the false 9 role... bruno also more capable of being false 9 than CAM actually... just let erikssen/vdb do the job at CAM role...
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Jul 6 2022, 02:05 PM)
That’s why the negotiation took so long, it’s from Barca’s side.
Even the 20M add ons settle, Barca still have to dig their own pocket to pay the deferred payment which in this point of time a bomb for them.
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kinda shit... for a supposedly big club. rmb last time inter also owe use payment for lukaku sales....
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Jul 6 2022, 02:05 PM)
That’s why the negotiation took so long, it’s from Barca’s side.
Even the 20M add ons settle, Barca still have to dig their own pocket to pay the deferred payment which in this point of time a bomb for them.
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I wouldn't touch this kind of business with a 10ft pole. It is plain nuts to get in bed with these financial scammers. Seriously there is no other player available or suitable enough? Its like we are cleaning up Barca's sh!t, while paying for it. They are using us to disentangle.

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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Jul 6 2022, 04:09 PM)
I wouldn't touch this kind of business with a 10ft pole. It is plain nuts to get in bed with these financial scammers. Seriously there is no other player available or suitable enough? Its like we are cleaning up Barca's sh!t, while paying for it. They are using us to disentangle.
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ETH wanna build team around him... what to do bro... the only deep lying playmaker that can play the total footballs dutch style... if not neves should have a not bad option with his EPL experience...
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Jul 6 2022, 04:14 PM)
ETH wanna build team around him... what to do bro... the only deep lying playmaker that can play the total footballs dutch style... if not neves should have a not bad option with his EPL experience...
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history will prove whether ETH is right or not. There is only 1 place for winners.....haha. No one on earth should plan a football team or his or her career on another single human resource.

What if we get him then aiyak - injured.....takkan MUFC dysfunctional straight away......Must have a 2nd choice for every single position and every single target ler....

Dutch Oranje team also no other DLP? wadepak.
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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Jul 6 2022, 04:18 PM)
history will prove whether ETH is right or not. There is only 1 place for winners.....haha. No one on earth should plan a football team or his or her career on another single human resource.

What if we get him then aiyak - injured.....takkan MUFC dysfunctional straight away......Must have a 2nd choice for every single position and every single target ler....

Dutch Oranje team also no other DLP? wadepak.
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blind? lol... before FDJ comes, the dutch football has been quite reactive and not able to play like the way they did now... thats why ETH wan lisandro, he can play both CDM and CB with very high forward passing rate...
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In the end the "non-virus", Maguire and co won the battle of United standard setters..
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We know who the cocky, lazy younger players are whose egos are writing cheques their performances don't cash.
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Jul 6 2022, 04:30 PM)



In the end the "non-virus", Maguire and co won the battle of United standard setters..
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i thought piers morgan is an open arsenal fans. close friend with ronaldo ke?
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QUOTE(cempedaklife @ Jul 6 2022, 05:08 PM)
i thought piers morgan is an open arsenal fans. close friend with ronaldo ke?
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Yes he is a fan of Arsenal and apparently he is close with CR7..



United media spin on the move, the Captain liking it..
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Jul 6 2022, 05:20 PM)
Yes he is a fan of Arsenal and apparently he is close with CR7..



United media spin on the move, the Captain liking it..
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would you like to stay in this club when the captain is leaking goals more than u scores... lol
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Jul 6 2022, 05:20 PM)
Yes he is a fan of Arsenal and apparently he is close with CR7..



United media spin on the move, the Captain liking it..
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didn't know he is close to CR7 lol.
tu captain memang tak boleh pakai.
many players now with their social media memang shocking.gif rclxub.gif doh.gif sweat.gif bangwall.gif
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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Jul 6 2022, 04:18 PM)
history will prove whether ETH is right or not. There is only 1 place for winners.....haha. No one on earth should plan a football team or his or her career on another single human resource.

What if we get him then aiyak - injured.....takkan MUFC dysfunctional straight away......Must have a 2nd choice for every single position and every single target ler....

Dutch Oranje team also no other DLP? wadepak.
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Tak jadi then sack lo lol. I also curious eth is for real or another scam. Good that he get rid of rr the scammer though.

To be fair, eth want fdj but didn't cry here and there say without fdj, the squad is hopeless.

If maguire remain kapitan next season, my faith on him lose 30% before ball even kick


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would you like to stay in this club when the captain is leaking goals more than u scores... lol
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would you like to stay in this club when the captain is leaking goals more than u scores... lol
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jul 6 2022, 04:51 PM)
We know who the cocky, lazy younger players are whose egos are writing cheques their performances don't cash.
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One already went out the door. The other one should stop dabbing. And 2-3 more needed a kick in their arse.
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All of these issues Maguire "accidentally" liked, Ronaldo missed the training to cover up the whole main problem which is LACK of Signing new players

FDJ took about 2 months, 7 years no proper CDM

While Glazer SILENTLY took more than 150 million for the past 10 years of dividend
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maguire vs ronaldo for captaincy, maguire of course wan him out
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Keeping maguire instead of Pogba is just insane. Of course Ronaldo wants to leave. If he wanted to leave because of CL, he would have decided right at the end of the season. Pretty sure he is sick and tired of the club decision on certain players.
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QUOTE(yvliew @ Jul 7 2022, 12:08 AM)
Keeping maguire instead of Pogba is just insane. Of course Ronaldo wants to leave. If he wanted to leave because of CL, he would have decided right at the end of the season. Pretty sure he is sick and tired of the club decision on certain players.
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i really think that maguire is the one who destroy this club. let see how ETH handle this a**hole
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QUOTE(john_white @ Jul 7 2022, 02:06 AM)
i really think that maguire is the one who destroy this club. let see how ETH handle this a**hole
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Even signing is not enough, FINE! But not getting rid of the virus is just suicide. Don't buy what other says ETH gives chance to all players. Haven't seen enough of maguire this couple seasons?
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Really top class demand from goat. Maybe kicking out maguire is more than enough than new signings
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47 goals in 66 games, great player IMO

https://www.bbc.com/sport/africa/62067006

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another day another no signing fdj or martinez... lol... and another day of ronaldo missed training... i feel if ronaldo wan hentam... hentam openly je... dun use other ppl mouth lol... the board can say... i didnt hear ronaldo say to me.... lol
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...er-demands.html

Habislah. Rubbish club. Ole didn't plan for cr7. Eth plan for c7. Now both plan screwed up
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...er-demands.html

Habislah. Rubbish club. Ole didn't plan for cr7. Eth plan for c7. Now both plan screwed up
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Every morning i wake up, i hope to see some notifications from my MU app sharing which new players we've signed or Ronaldo joins training. But always end up with rubbish notifications like past players' interviews and some stupid videos sharing..

FDJ, Martinez, Antony... Where are them?

I almost bought the Maybank MU bangkok tour package cause wanna see Ronaldo... zzz
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Habislah. Rubbish club. Ole didn't plan for cr7. Eth plan for c7. Now both plan screwed up
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honestly i dont believe the crap that ole didnt plan for cr. that is the best striker in the market that time. every proper manager would want that striker in their team.

his style of play? counter attacking only. needs player with clinical finish and speed. who has it? cr7.

and after cr7 joined the english fridge felt intimidated with his fellow englishman. obviously there is 2 camps in the team and still now. one winner and one whiner. and ole sided maguire with his shit performance and his captain still plays innocent.gif
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Jul 7 2022, 10:05 AM)
honestly i dont believe the crap that ole didnt plan for cr. that is the best striker in the market that time. every proper manager would want that striker in their team.

his style of play? counter attacking only. needs player with clinical finish and speed. who has it? cr7.

and after cr7 joined the english fridge felt intimidated with his fellow englishman. obviously there is 2 camps in the team and still now. one winner and one whiner. and ole sided maguire with his shit performance and his captain still plays innocent.gif
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the problem with ole is that he lost his identity whenever he is under pressure and totally let go the pressing football he played during his temporary time... lol... u see klopp never stop sticking to his philosophy til he make the team into pressing monster... even the first 2 seasons gotten nothing... ole.. lose few matches, terus go back to counter attacking dy... lol
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Jul 7 2022, 10:29 AM)
the problem with ole is that he lost his identity whenever he is under pressure and totally let go the pressing football he played during his temporary time... lol... u see klopp never stop sticking to his philosophy til he make the team into pressing monster... even the first 2 seasons gotten nothing... ole.. lose few matches, terus go back to counter attacking dy... lol
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if we cant really sign any good cb also must kick this english fridge out of the team. even worse than pogba. publicly liking posts like that. how old is he? 20? its not even like he earned his keep as a pro footballer. and he is the selected united captain puih.
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Jul 7 2022, 10:34 AM)
if we cant really sign any good cb also must kick this english fridge out of the team. even worse than pogba. publicly liking posts like that. how old is he? 20? its not even like he earned his keep as a pro footballer. and he is the selected united captain puih.
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soon to be england captain if kane not playing... lol... thats why i hope lisandro deal must settle first... at least someone to kick out the fridge... unless ETH pair him with fridge... i bo lat dy...

FDJ deal there sure take long time liao de based on the bodo barca style now... they shud be wan us to help them pay the 13mil they owe to fdj... doh.gif doh.gif
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Jul 7 2022, 09:36 AM)
another day another no signing fdj or martinez... lol... and another day of ronaldo missed training... i feel if ronaldo wan hentam... hentam openly je... dun use other ppl mouth lol... the board can say... i didnt hear ronaldo say to me.... lol
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FDJ one not gonna settle so soon, Barca still owe him around £13M salary, plus agent fees.
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Jul 7 2022, 10:05 AM)
honestly i dont believe the crap that ole didnt plan for cr. that is the best striker in the market that time. every proper manager would want that striker in their team.

his style of play? counter attacking only. needs player with clinical finish and speed. who has it? cr7.

and after cr7 joined the english fridge felt intimidated with his fellow englishman. obviously there is 2 camps in the team and still now. one winner and one whiner. and ole sided maguire with his shit performance and his captain still plays innocent.gif
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Season mau start d, suddenly cr7 mari. It takes a very good manager to manage a top class player. Ole fail because of divided camp. Rr worse, camp divided and dunno how to use him. Throw him under bus summore.

I totally agree kapitan is worse than virus. New variant ni. Signing martinez is more important than fdj. While we are happy with fdj, martinez, eriksen, malacia...cr7 totally not happy with it. That is the top class standard.


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CR7 cares more bout his legacy (CL and records) than club(s) la come on

Even with more and better signings he gonna leave no matter what

Stop believing all PR or dmg control .. from both clubs and players lol

Alot of things are done in the background before these news/statements surfaced up to pull fans to their side

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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Jul 7 2022, 01:22 PM)
CR7 cares more bout his legacy (CL and records) than club(s) la come on

Even with more and better signings he gonna leave no matter what

Stop believing all PR or dmg control .. from clubs and players lol
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Got any evidence to back that claim or yours?

I take demand more signings as care for the club..
I take wants to remove Maguire as club captain as care for the club..
I take pissed off and critizing the whole team during half time against Brighton and after defeat Wolves as care for the club..
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If maguire still captain next season, this club is unsavable…
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This is what CR7 said after ETH appointment announcement back in May:

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I know (Ten Hag) did a fantastic job for Ajax and that he's an experienced coach but we need to give him time and things need to change the way he wants.

I hope we have success. I wish him the best. We are happy and excited. Let's believe that next year we are going to win trophies.
Knowing full well that no CL next season, he still committed with United back in May..
Now that United didnt show any ambitions of winning trophies.. he wanna go..

Consistent.. its all about winning trophies..
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Jul 7 2022, 01:34 PM)
Got any evidence to back that claim or yours?

I take demand more signings as care for the club..
I take wants to remove Maguire as club captain as care for the club..
I take pissed off and critizing the whole team during half time against Brighton and after defeat Wolves as care for the club..
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Did I say he did not care bout the club? I said he has more focus on personal aspects (goal records, salary, etc) than the club. And footballer’s career is generally short and no one said that this is wrong.

As we all know, he left Real for Juve because Perez doesn’t give in to his demand of more salary when Real is a better team than Juve

He was considering City as next option when he decided to leave Juve, before we came into picture.

Still, nothing wrong with that, just personal choices.

Also I think we should be clear on one thing:

Pointing out certain things bout CR7 dun mean that ppl demonise him and at the same time supporting other “virus” in the team as described by some ppl.

They are not mutually exclusive u know? I feel like at here we’re not allowed to talk bout any single bad or not so positive stuff bout CR7, otherwise I will be attacked as parasite, virus and labelled other names.

Also, I’ve been vocal on criticising Maguire and even Bruno during matchdays. No doubt Maguire as captain liking the instagram post is a unprofessional. I hope ETH will fine or punish him accordingly.

I just ask we all be open for discussions and have mutual respect. Not dividing fans into camps. Also, PR talks is PR talks and take them with a grain of salt. No people/club will not say things that do harm to their image. Actions speak louder than words

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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Jul 7 2022, 01:54 PM)
Did I say he did not care bout the club? I said he has more focus on personal aspects (goal records, salary, etc) than the club. And footballer’s career is generally short and no one said that this is wrong.

As we all know, he left Real for Juve because Perez doesn’t give in to his demand of more salary when Real is a better team than Juve

He was considering City as next option when he decided to leave Juve, before we came into picture.

Still, nothing wrong with that, just personal choices.

Also I think we should be clear on one thing:

Pointing out certain things bout CR7 dun mean that ppl demonise him and at the same time supporting other “virus” in the team as described by some ppl.

They are not mutually exclusive u know? I feel like at here we’re not allowed to talk bout any single bad or not so positive stuff bout CR7, otherwise I will be attacked as parasite, virus and labelled other names.

Also, I’ve been vocal on criticising Maguire and even Bruno during matchdays. No doubt Maguire as captain liking the instagram post is a unprofessional. I hope ETH will fine or punish him accordingly.

I just ask we all be open for discussions and have mutual respect. Not dividing fans into camps. Also, PR talks is PR talks and take them with a grain of salt. No people/club will not say things that do harm to their image. Actions speak louder than words
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Not attacking you bro, chill out.. all im asking is for the evidence that in this current situation its all about his personal glory..

While all the evidence that i saw since back in May he wanted to win trophies with United even though there's no CL..

I dont deny that gunning for personal glory is part of his character.. pretty sure is part of the reason of his plan to move out.. but it is not the main part like u're implying (or seems like implying)
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biar je, like we here always said, we wont stop him from leaving... we all well aware of his drive for personal achievement/wealth... which is in line with the life span of a pro footballer... footballer can no need put the club at no.1 all the time since club usually outlive their career... haha... we also cant rely on him forever... if he leave nw... is a good wake up call for the club... we should be able to get some transfer fees for selling him and also a massive saving on his wages...

but after all i still wont side at/forgive the other players in the camp because of their massive wages and our club still end up at no.6!

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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Jul 7 2022, 02:14 PM)
Not attacking you bro, chill out.. all im asking is for the evidence that in this current situation its all about his personal glory..

While all the evidence that i saw since back in May he wanted to win trophies with United even though there's no CL..

I dont deny that gunning for personal glory is part of his character.. pretty sure is part of the reason of his plan to move out.. but it is not the main part like u're implying (or seems like implying)
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I gave you the history bout Real and Juve. As for the rest, I duno … the general “mood” around here seems like ppl accept that he did what he did, is because he care bout the club and to pressure the board for more signings, and not related than winning trophies for himself (as you said earlier, which is consistent with his characters) for so many years.

Like there is no balance between the two, or just skipped talking bout personal glory for convenience purpose (sugarcoating the reason want to leave). Dont you think so? If this scenario is replaced with Pogba, I’m sure the tone will be so different..

Anyway, lets hope CR7’s family issue can be resolved soon and back to training ASAP, to show that he’s real professional despite wanting to leave or to push the board for more signings (Actions speak louder than words part)

Otherwise, the longer it drags out, more ppl will doubt his reasoning for his AWOL for training, since there were so many exact scenarios that follow this script whenever ppl wanna force a move.

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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Jul 7 2022, 02:26 PM)
biar je, like we here always said, we wont stop him from leaving... we all well aware of his drive for personal achievement/wealth... which is in line with the life span of a pro footballer... footballer can no need put the club at no.1 all the time since club usually outlive their career... haha... we also cant rely on him forever... if he leave nw... is a good wake up call for the club... we should be able to get some transfer fees for selling him and also a massive saving on his wages...

but after all i still wont side at/forgive the other players in the camp because of their massive wages and our club still end up at no.6!
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Long gone are the days of one-man club or loyalty

So just “squeeze” them out when they have values la

Haha

As for the overpriced signing, really not much we can do to sell because of the contracts Woodward handed out, unless man utd willing to just buy out and release for free (see Luka Jovic and Real Madrid).

But u know how stingy our board/owner is …
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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Jul 7 2022, 02:32 PM)
Long gone are the days of one-man club or loyalty

So just “squeeze” them out when they have values la

Haha

As for the overpriced signing, really not much we can do to sell because of the contracts Woodward handed out, unless man utd willing to just buy out and release for free (see Luka Jovic and Real Madrid).

But u know how stingy our board/owner is …
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time change already, even normal working world also job hopping is so common... one man club wont give u 500k wages a week bro... unless u are mbappe level... whole country beg you to stay... lol... if neymar also wanna ciao, maybe his wages can match mbappe's...

our board not stingy since they willing to pay so much wages for all those underperforming stars, but they cant get over the losses of selling cheaply just to free their wages.. doh.gif doh.gif
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Jul 7 2022, 02:37 PM)
time change already, even normal working world also job hopping is so common... one man club wont give u 500k wages a week bro... unless u are mbappe level... whole country beg you to stay... lol... if neymar also wanna ciao, maybe his wages can match mbappe's...

our board not stingy since they willing to pay so much wages for all those underperforming stars, but they cant get over the losses of selling cheaply just to free their wages..  doh.gif  doh.gif
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Impairments look bad for accounting of MU business club mah

I mean if we’re just 10m apart from FDJ, just pay it and stop haggling, if you can already pay 80m for Maguire

But as for wages, whole team got 25% reduction dy, maybe this is glazer’s grand scheme in signing those players you know?

Also, even if club want to sell cheaply now, but no other clubs want to pay the high wages, unless the players willing to take paycut

If we were them, we also won’t want to leave.

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any news coverage from the beloved great english media on maguire liking the post?
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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Jul 7 2022, 02:40 PM)
Impairments look bad for accounting of MU business club mah

I mean if we’re just 10m apart from FDJ, just pay it and stop haggling, if you can already pay 80m for Maguire

But as for wages, whole team got 25% reduction dy, maybe this is glazer’s grand scheme in signing those players you know?

Also, even if club want to sell cheaply now, but no other clubs want to pay the high wages, unless the players willing to take paycut

If we were them, we also won’t want to leave.
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yea but the FDJ deal i think more complicated than wad they want from us... lol... so i can foresee he will only join us at last min...

the whole team deserve the 25% reduction... but still too damn high averagely for others to buy our players... on top of that need to pay transfer fees somemore... doh.gif doh.gif top teams wouldnt want them, so left with teams that could not afford wan them... so dilemma for us... lol
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Jul 7 2022, 03:23 PM)
any news coverage from the beloved great english media on maguire liking the post?
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https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/new...m-post-27411028

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/19107499/har...n-utd-transfer/

still ada kot
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Jul 7 2022, 03:26 PM)
totally pr ing this maguire likes... if its another non english member that likes the post.. ala pogba whistling.gif
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Jul 7 2022, 03:29 PM)
totally pr ing this maguire likes... if its another non english member that likes the post.. ala pogba whistling.gif
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sudah in the depth of 18 levels hell... lol... but pogba also not doing himself any good favour also even without those negative publicities...
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Jul 7 2022, 02:26 PM)
biar je, like we here always said, we wont stop him from leaving... we all well aware of his drive for personal achievement/wealth... which is in line with the life span of a pro footballer... footballer can no need put the club at no.1 all the time since club usually outlive their career... haha... we also cant rely on him forever... if he leave nw... is a good wake up call for the club... we should be able to get some transfer fees for selling him and also a massive saving on his wages...

but after all i still wont side at/forgive the other players in the camp because of their massive wages and our club still end up at no.6!
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Like i mentioned before, we shouldnt be caring about saving wages, we already saved a lot from the 4 that already left. The guy has selfish goals but most of the times its a good thing because the guy always wants to win. If he leaves i am willing to bet we wont replace him with even someone half as good and we are losing that elite mentality which most of our lazy cunt players dont posses. He had a 2 year contract so its not as if he will be over player forever anyway.
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QUOTE(simmarjit @ Jul 7 2022, 04:27 PM)
Like i mentioned before, we shouldnt be caring about saving wages, we already saved a lot from the 4 that already left. The guy has selfish goals but most of the times its a good thing because the guy always wants to win. If he leaves i am willing to bet we wont replace him with even someone half as good and we are losing that elite mentality which most of our lazy cunt players dont posses. He had a 2 year contract so its not as if he will be over player forever anyway.
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It’s not bout selling him to save wages …

The thing is if he wanna leave, no ppl can stop him because he is that powerful (with Mendes as agent)

The thing we all fear is that he will stay in the dressing room sulking and cause more divide if the transfer does not materialise..

The first time he wanna leave, remember he mentioned he is being treated as a slave for not letting him go to Real? His ego has grown so much since then after so many years and how would u think he can handle no big/top club want to sign him?

The “saving wages” part is only the small part (and afterthought) of discussion for selling him (as he wishes) to avoid the above potential issue ..

I’m open for him to stay if he can be professional in worst case scenario and still guide the younger players/new signings (we can all give up on those bad fruits of current batch though). I’m not sure how many ppl can accept him throwing tantrums for the whole season considering we’re a midtable circus now

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I don't know what you guys think about the midfield, but here goes the premise.

Even if United got FDJ, our midfield is still looking lightweight compared to the midfield of the Top 6 sides. Which Top 6 side do we expect our team to win the midfield battle against?


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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Jul 7 2022, 02:40 PM)
Impairments look bad for accounting of MU business club mah

I mean if we’re just 10m apart from FDJ, just pay it and stop haggling, if you can already pay 80m for Maguire

But as for wages, whole team got 25% reduction dy, maybe this is glazer’s grand scheme in signing those players you know?

Also, even if club want to sell cheaply now, but no other clubs want to pay the high wages, unless the players willing to take paycut

If we were them, we also won’t want to leave.
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United can pay 11m dividend to glazers but not extra for FDJ
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jul 7 2022, 04:46 PM)
I don't know what you guys think about the midfield, but here goes the premise.

Even if United got FDJ, our midfield is still looking lightweight compared to the midfield of the Top 6 sides. Which Top 6 side do we expect our team to win the midfield battle against?
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I mean at least we have options, FDJ just replaces Pogba, Matic isnt replaced, Eriksen is replacing Lingard and Mata, and VDB is probably also replacing Lingard and Mata role, Fred reprising a ball winner role. Its a not a horrible midfield but its not a major improvement. If Garner doesnt leave on loan maybe he will get some game time in the No 6 role.
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jul 7 2022, 04:46 PM)
I don't know what you guys think about the midfield, but here goes the premise.

Even if United got FDJ, our midfield is still looking lightweight compared to the midfield of the Top 6 sides. Which Top 6 side do we expect our team to win the midfield battle against?
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I think it depends on the formation and starting XI

and whether ETH will employ differently against top 6 opponents or just stick to the plan A

I would imagine to an extend Fred will be utilised as he is hardworking to balance the midfield a little against tougher opponent …
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QUOTE(and85rew @ Jul 7 2022, 04:52 PM)
United can pay 11m dividend to glazers but not extra for FDJ
Fantastic owner & management
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Its not our issue actually its Brokealona trying to scam people.
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QUOTE(and85rew @ Jul 7 2022, 04:52 PM)
United can pay 11m dividend to glazers but not extra for FDJ
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I mean there are multiple arguments about this … if we dun talk bout the dividends (we can rant but we cant do anything bout that)

Overpaying a player is bad (see our 80m fridge signing) as we been paying man utd tax all this while. Even 50-60m for Antony is criminal and Ajax wanted 80m. Crazy. The whole world knows that we are desperate (especially with the CR7 news, they want to squeeze us to the maximum)

Tbh if it’s just 10m apart on FDJ and I own man utd’s money, I would pay more for faster transition and integration into new team.

But there’s probably more issue with barca’s negotiation. We agreed an amount previously and now Barca wanted higher, due to the deferred salary issue and owed agent commission. It might not be as straightforward as normal deals.

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QUOTE(simmarjit @ Jul 7 2022, 04:52 PM)
I mean at least we have options, FDJ just replaces Pogba, Matic isnt replaced, Eriksen is replacing Lingard and Mata, and VDB is probably also replacing Lingard and Mata role, Fred reprising a ball winner role. Its a not a horrible midfield but its not a major improvement. If Garner doesnt leave on loan maybe he will get some game time in the No 6 role.
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That's the kicker. Having options isn't quite the same as reaching a level of performance.
I hear that our minimum target this season is Top 4. And yet, do we even have a midfield to match any of the Top 6 sides? Looking at the individual parts in this team worries me for the new season. Plus our top scorer from last season now wants out.

I just don't see any support behind a Top 4 target unless it's good vibes social media all over again.

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jul 7 2022, 04:46 PM)
I don't know what you guys think about the midfield, but here goes the premise.

Even if United got FDJ, our midfield is still looking lightweight compared to the midfield of the Top 6 sides. Which Top 6 side do we expect our team to win the midfield battle against?
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lisandro can add steal as CDM when needed... but then our CB will bcome lousier without him unless we get pau torres as well... but since none of our defender able to sell out... i doubt we will get one more CB... lol... i most hopeful is neves and fdj can join together... best combo for our midfield against top 6...
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Haller join Dortmund as the seventh signing this window.. United only 2.. this club is not a serious footballing side anymore
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Jul 7 2022, 07:04 PM)
Haller join Dortmund as the seventh signing this window.. United only 2.. this club is not a serious footballing side anymore
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American owner susah. Chelsea also 1 signing only
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Now there’s rumour that Chelsea is going to sign FdJ lol

Barca desperate for money huh

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lisandro can add steal as CDM when needed... but then our CB will bcome lousier without him unless we get pau torres as well... but since none of our defender able to sell out... i doubt we will get one more CB... lol... i most hopeful is neves and fdj can join together... best combo for our midfield against top 6...
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Lenglet joins Spurs from Barca.
Another player onboard for Spurs.
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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Jul 7 2022, 08:14 PM)
Now there’s rumour that Chelsea is going to sign FdJ lol

Barca desperate for money huh
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It’s from Barca reporter tier 3

They used Chelsea to force us to pay extra
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It seems more and more likely FDJ deal will collapse.
Either will hijacked by Chelsea, or FDJ staying in Barca and Barca will get penalty for unable to follow financial rule.

There is still chance the deal only will go through, but only in the last transfer day. I think la.

Btw, if CR7 leave, I don't think we are able to get a young mature striker, due to budget.
So will back to old way, buy an old striker tahan 2 seasons first.
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QUOTE(KennRicky @ Jul 7 2022, 11:38 PM)
It seems more and more likely FDJ deal will collapse.
Either will hijacked by Chelsea, or FDJ staying in Barca and Barca will get penalty for unable to follow financial rule.

There is still chance the deal only will go through, but only in the last transfer day. I think la.

Btw, if CR7 leave, I don't think we are able to get a young mature striker, due to budget.
So will back to old way, buy an old striker tahan 2 seasons first.
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No matter who we buy as replacement, ppl sure will criticise cos we don’t have much money or budget anyway for better prospect ….

Morata and Depay should be available for “cheap” and has experience

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No matter who we buy as replacement, ppl sure will criticise cos we don’t have much money or budget anyway for better prospect ….

Morata and Depay should be available for “cheap” and has experience
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Lenglet joins Spurs from Barca.
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it's on loan.. right? hmm.gif
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it's on loan.. right? hmm.gif
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Doesn't change the fact they got deep squad strength now.

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not sure if ETH has looked at Amad and Pellistri that Ole signed previously for RW position

to be honest should give them a chance in pre-season / training to see if it's really necessary to go for a new RW when a huge sum was spent last time by Ole on the same position and was never properly used in EPL

if we can skip Antony (maybe sign only next season), we can go for a slightly better striker/forward option to replace Ronaldo
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Erik ten Hag’s 5 #mufc commandments:

- Dropped if late for meeting or training regardless of status

- No alcohol during gameweeks

- Use club chefs/overhauled menu over personal chefs

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- Go to EtH with problems before agents

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Cristiano Ronaldo is willing to give up his status as the highest-paid player in the Premier League and accept a considerable pay cut to leave #mufc. His next team must be in the Champions League and have a chance of winning it [Marca]

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🚨🌕| Cristiano Ronaldo HAS NOT talked to Erik ten Hag yet. This is a CRUCIAL element to it. It's someone else who's communicated [his desire to leave]. #mufc are thinking that maybe talks with ten Hag could turn things around. lauriewhitwell

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Chelsea had weighed up their offer to Barca for FDJ: €60M + Azpilicueta and Alonso with €10M add-ons which are in relation with number of starters and progression in Champion football

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Ronaldo won’t be joining the squad for Bangkok tour, he is given extension day off for family issue
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hope chelsea's link with FDJ is fake lol

as for ronaldo .. you know i know what's gonna happen at the end of the window lor

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No matter who we buy as replacement, ppl sure will criticise cos we don’t have much money or budget anyway for better prospect ….

Morata and Depay should be available for “cheap” and has experience
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For me ... most probably will be Pukki and Danny Ings.
Old but with PL experience.
Just like Ighalo case, loan in for temporary use only.

This is not what I want, but what I think will happen.
If la, if ... FDJ, Martinez, Antony all deal done eventually,
where got money anymore. Can loan only.
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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Jul 8 2022, 12:57 AM)
not sure if ETH has looked at Amad and Pellistri that Ole signed previously for RW position

to be honest should give them a chance in pre-season / training to see if it's really necessary to go for a new RW when a huge sum was spent last time by Ole on the same position and was never properly used in EPL

if we can skip Antony (maybe sign only next season), we can go for a slightly better striker/forward option to replace Ronaldo
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Not even can play regularly for Rangers and Alaves.
I personally have no hope on them.
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hope chelsea's link with FDJ is fake lol

as for ronaldo .. you know i know what's gonna happen at the end of the window lor
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I think in the end he will stay but sulking whole season. Bayern already said No to him, MU won't sell him to PL rivals and no one else will really entertain his huge wage demand. Unless PSG wanna combine him with Messi there.

But damn chelsea offering players that Barca wanted too in the deal for FDJ. Barca sure lean towards Chelsea's offer!

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I think in the end he will stay but sulking whole season. Bayern already said No to him, MU won't sell him to PL rivals and no one else will really entertain his huge wage demand. Unless PSG wanna combine him with Messi there.

But damn chelsea offering players that Barca wanted too in the deal for FDJ. Barca sure lean towards Chelsea's offer!

This is the most depressing pre-season we had over the years. New MU jersey launching this Friday, don't think I'll print any players' names for the jersey this season.
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HAHAHA most welcome! usually i'll buy at least 2 out of the 3 jerseys for every season. but this season i will only buy 1 which is the home jersey. reducing my support liao...
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another day, another no new signing, lol... and fdj kena hijacked soon... bye fdj, welcome neves... the only available cdm we can choose... the other options i think semua kena sapu habis dy... lol... gogogogo lisandro, pls here we go today, they should be meeting today to accept our 50mil bid... antony i doubt we can afford la, or last min just pay ajax wad they want...
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Bye bye FDJ...

should hv complete deal month ago...
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QUOTE(mfared77 @ Jul 8 2022, 10:05 AM)
Bye bye FDJ...

should hv complete deal month ago...
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At this point, might as well sign Busquets on a free as our CDM for a season or two. Not the worse CDM in the world.
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so the news said leaving next season, not now


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At this point, might as well sign Busquets on a free as our CDM for a season or two. Not the worse CDM in the world.
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if he too slow for EPL, will get another round of bombardness.. lol
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if he too slow for EPL, will get another round of bombardness.. lol
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He's the best midfield orchestrator in the world. He looks slow because his positioning is so good, he doesn't need to run.
Like Michael Carrick, who is also not known for high energy press but darn effective.

Even if we sign FDJ, Busquets as backup is way better than McFred at the base of midfield.
Should fit into ETH's passing philosphy as both Barca & Ajax share the same Total Football DNA.

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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Jul 8 2022, 10:29 AM)
if he too slow for EPL, will get another round of bombardness.. lol
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Matic and Carrick were slow but their positioning were top class

McFred way faster than Matic but their positioning were poor esp McTom



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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jul 8 2022, 10:36 AM)
He's the best midfield orchestrator in the world. He looks slow because his positioning is so good, he doesn't need to run.
Like Miachel Carrick, who is also not known for high energy press but darn effective.

Even if we sign FDJ, Busquets as backup is way better than McFred at the base of midfield.
Should fit into ETH's passing philosphy as both Barca & Ajax share the same Total Football DNA.
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well yea, he should be still have 1-2 seasons of tank in him... but he should be leaving only after end of next season... so i think we have more choices then... if he is leaving now... then its a good money saving combo...
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Jul 8 2022, 10:39 AM)
Matic and Carrick were slow but their positioning were top class

McFred way faster than Matic but their positioning were poor esp McTom
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yea but majority fans still regard matic too slow when we kelong no ending last season... haha... not everyone understand his technical advantages haha
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yea but majority fans still regard matic too slow when we kelong no ending last season... haha... not everyone understand his technical advantages haha
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Only regard him slow when he concede possession carelessly and unable to track back

Otherwise him sending line breaking pass and dribble up the field is a nice sight to watch

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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Jul 8 2022, 10:41 AM)
yea but majority fans still regard matic too slow when we kelong no ending last season... haha... not everyone understand his technical advantages haha
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That's quite true.
Most fans will praise if win and criticise if lose regardless of tactical impact. They prefer to see Passion & Desire FC unfortunately.

I never thought I would have the opportunity to see Busquets running the United midfield. His style of play doesn't need him to cover lots of ground so age is fine for players like him. Look at Pirlo.
Recognize a fine opportunity when it comes up. Plus, stick it to Barca.

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so the news said leaving next season, not now
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They have Kessie as cover already. Barca lose him for free next season.
Will they say no to 10M and free-ing up Busquets wages this season? We can always test.
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I like Busquets as well. Always very hard to win the midfield against him
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jul 8 2022, 11:03 AM)
They have Kessie as cover already. Barca lose him for free next season.
Will they say no to 10M and free-ing up Busquets wages this season? We can always test.
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doubt ETH will consider him given how youthful he like his squad to be... lol... but hey, there is always blind and dusan tadic in his previous squad... so we can test busquet, but actually i think alot of clubs will wan him if he available for sales...
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Jul 8 2022, 11:13 AM)
doubt ETH will consider him given how youthful he like his squad to be... lol... but hey, there is always blind and dusan tadic in his previous squad... so we can test busquet, but actually i think alot of clubs will wan him if he available for sales...
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Jul 8 2022, 10:41 AM)
yea but majority fans still regard matic too slow when we kelong no ending last season... haha... not everyone understand his technical advantages haha
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Always pancit second half. Only good for 30mins. No point very good 30mins and contribute goal in 60 mins
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QUOTE(sevendogz @ Jul 8 2022, 11:04 AM)
I like Busquets as well. Always very hard to win the midfield against him
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One weakness of the United midfield was how they were easily pressed.
Busquets is one of the most press resistent players in the world.

QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Jul 8 2022, 11:13 AM)
doubt ETH will consider him given how youthful he like his squad to be... lol... but hey, there is always blind and dusan tadic in his previous squad... so we can test busquet, but actually i think alot of clubs will wan him if he available for sales...
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Clubs like Ajax and Dortmund subscribe to the veterans + youngsters model. Youngsters provide the energy while a few experienced pros provide the direction on the pitch.


In other news, Barca are now talking to Chelsea on the potential transfers of Alonso and Azpiliqueta. Barca already shopping aggressively.
Personal terms already agreed with both those players.

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Always pancit second half. Only good for 30mins. No point very good 30mins and contribute goal in 60 mins
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if we dominate the midfield, wont pancit so fast geh... the problem was previously we cant control the midfield with bruno/fred/mctom keep free the ball to opponents... when u hari2 need to chase for ball sure gg bro... we are not mid table team and we should not play like mid table team where the cdm spend more time chase for ball than do passing and control the game...
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jul 8 2022, 11:45 AM)
One weakness of the United midfield was how they were easily pressed.
Busquets is one of the most press resistent players in the world.
Clubs like Ajax and Dortmund subscribe to the veterans + youngsters model. Youngsters provide the energy while a few experienced pros provide the direction on the pitch.
In other news, Barca are now talking to Chelsea on the potential transfers of Alonso and Azpiliqueta. Barca already shopping aggressively.
Personal terms already agreed with both those players.
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good bye FDJ to chelsea, gonna be a big ass slap to our board if FDJ go to chelsea... lol... and no alternatives for us now... tongue.gif tongue.gif
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Chelsea getting FDJ will be like ETH waking up with a green hat on his head.

Does anyone still believe we are big boys well run club now? The one with plenty of assets to sell or even some football clubs to sell or something something and we still have only spent a whopping £15M in total so far.

We are flying out with the worst squad in our history (based on achievement) and not clear path in sight when we return. Bet you a few of our top players will injure themselves with the Thai weather.
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Jul 8 2022, 11:53 AM)
if we dominate the midfield, wont pancit so fast geh... the problem was previously we cant control the midfield with bruno/fred/mctom keep free the ball to opponents... when u hari2 need to chase for ball sure gg bro... we are not mid table team and we should not play like mid table team where the cdm spend more time chase for ball than do passing and control the game...
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Hope he change under ETH

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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Jul 8 2022, 09:51 AM)
another day, another no new signing, lol... and fdj kena hijacked soon... bye fdj, welcome neves... the only available cdm we can choose... the other options i think semua kena sapu habis dy... lol... gogogogo lisandro, pls here we go today, they should be meeting today to accept our 50mil bid... antony i doubt we can afford la, or last min just pay ajax wad they want...
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I read tielemans available for cheap too cause final year contract. Tielemans + Neves would also be good, at least got EPL experience.
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Never bought any original since Glazers took over, just bought grade A version. Hahaha
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The MU Adidas Originals this one : https://store.manutd.com/en/manchester-unit...RID:i-r0c0:po-0

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Meh kit for possibly a meh season.
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Chelsea getting FDJ will be like ETH waking up with a green hat on his head.

Does anyone still believe we are big boys well run club now? The one with plenty of assets to sell or even some football clubs to sell or something something and we still have only spent a whopping £15M in total so far.

We are flying out with the worst squad in our history (based on achievement) and not clear path in sight when we return. Bet you a few of our top players will injure themselves with the Thai weather.
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the sooner we realise that we are mid table club with higher budget now .. the better it is

so we can really reset and build from scratch

we have no pulling power compared to other top 4s lol
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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Jul 8 2022, 02:33 PM)
the sooner we realise that we are mid table club with higher budget now .. the better it is

so we can really reset and build from scratch

we have no pulling power compared to other top 4s lol
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What higher budget? Better yet what budget?

To reset and build from scratch we need to get rid of Glazers. To do that we need to bankrupt the company. To do that we need to boycott the sponsors.
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What higher budget? Better yet what budget?

To reset and build from scratch we need to get rid of Glazers. To do that we need to bankrupt the company. To do that we need to boycott the sponsors.
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YES ! #GlazersOut ranting.gif ranting.gif ranting.gif

--> but not to bankrupt the company ( this will takes very long coz new sponsor will come in every year )

The only way is some rich Arab Prince to buy out the Glazers icon_question.gif


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See, I already said FDJ deal will be dragging.
Shud be go for other deals first.
Now baru mau deal other players.

If deal Martinez and Antony sooner, shud be cheaper.
Now Ajax almost sold half of their lineup already.
Of cuz demand high price la.

The transfer team memang x boleh pakai.
Basically I think Malacia joined also bcuz Ten Hag only.

Quite lucky Fulham willing to buy PreSeason Pirlo with 10M also.
Really surprised, thought max can sell 3M only.

Time to sell and loan out players also, we have 4 left back owai.
Eriksen come, Hannibal no chance, need to loan.

Even Martinez not coming, we already have 6 CB.
If come, we have 7 man oowai.

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QUOTE(KennRicky @ Jul 8 2022, 04:47 PM)
See, I already said FDJ deal will be dragging.
Shud be go for other deals first.
Now baru mau deal other players.

If deal Martinez and Antony sooner, shud be cheaper.
Now Ajax almost sold half of their lineup already.
Of cuz demand high price la.

The transfer team memang x boleh pakai.
Basically I think Malacia joined also bcuz Ten Hag only.

Quite lucky Fulham willing to buy PreSeason Pirlo with 10M also.
Really surprised, thought max can sell 3M only.

Time to sell and loan out players also, we have 4 left back owai.
Eriksen come, Hannibal no chance, need to loan.

Even Martinez not coming, we already have 6 CB.
If come, we have 7 man oowai.
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no point get cb if the captain gonna play week in week out. better stay as mascot replace fred the red je
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QUOTE(KennRicky @ Jul 8 2022, 04:47 PM)
See, I already said FDJ deal will be dragging.
Shud be go for other deals first.
Now baru mau deal other players.

If deal Martinez and Antony sooner, shud be cheaper.
Now Ajax almost sold half of their lineup already.
Of cuz demand high price la.

The transfer team memang x boleh pakai.
Basically I think Malacia joined also bcuz Ten Hag only.

Quite lucky Fulham willing to buy PreSeason Pirlo with 10M also.
Really surprised, thought max can sell 3M only.

Time to sell and loan out players also, we have 4 left back owai.
Eriksen come, Hannibal no chance, need to loan.

Even Martinez not coming, we already have 6 CB.
If come, we have 7 man oowai.
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Hmm ... Actually it is good.
Bcuz we know both Dalot and AWB both are mediocre.
But again, sell first lo. If not where got money.
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remember 2013 kit? most of the fans it was super ugly when it launched but then we became champions.

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At this rate
United should make statement said no longer interested with FDJ
Since FDJ never said want to join anyway (yet)


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QUOTE(and85rew @ Jul 8 2022, 06:18 PM)
At this rate
United should make statement said no longer interested with FDJ
Since FDJ never said want to join anyway (yet)
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Jul 8 2022, 10:52 PM)
He stated he doesn’t want to join Chelsea and prefer MU if he leave
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Up to now, you wonder if MUFC actually got the money or not? If yes what’s so difficult to pay? If not then what the hell is this nonsense. I feel it’s as bad as sancho.
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Jul 8 2022, 10:52 PM)
He stated he doesn’t want to join Chelsea and prefer MU if he leave
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Read somewhere he said he prefers to join chelsea than us🤔
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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Jul 8 2022, 10:55 PM)
Up to now, you wonder if MUFC actually got the money or not? If yes what’s so difficult to pay? If not then what the hell is this nonsense. I feel it’s as bad as sancho.
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It’s FDJ and Barca now, not related to MU.

Barca still owe him salary and deferred payment plus his agent fees, MU doesn’t want to get involved in this plus if we dump in let’s said 80M + 20M or 90M straight cash, what’s the diff between now and then? MU trying to get rid of their “water fish” image.

Now we should focus on Martinez, news saying that Ajax will have board meeting today to whether accept 51M + add on or not

Sign Martinez first and conclude Eriksen’s deal too. FDJ is bonus if he managed to settle his salary with Barca and move on

For Eriksen deal, it will be another tough deal because
1. The chances of him pass the fitness are low given of his heart condition, that’s why doctors are involve

2. His contract. The lawyer now going thru the contract MU offer but will take times cuz what if his health doesn’t allow him to finish his contract, what are the compensations or contract termination

Anthony, I rate him lower than Richarlison and the price tag of 60M is over price.


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Hmm ... Rangnick said exactly the same thing ...
If that time not working, quite doubt it will work now.
Or at least need 2 seasons to adapt, just like pool
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Hmm ... Rangnick said exactly the same thing ...
If that time not working, quite doubt it will work now.
Or at least need 2 seasons to adapt, just like pool
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Rangnick, as interim, was not given the authority to establish those changes.
We can only hope club management affords the backing ETH needs to implement the playing system.

There is already a video out on one touch passing drills done at United and when ETH was at Ajax. This United team struggled to keep the ball going while the Ajax team made it look effortless.


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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jul 9 2022, 01:02 AM)
Rangnick, as interim, was not given the authority to establish those changes.
We can only hope club management affords the backing ETH needs to implement the playing system.

There is already a video out on one touch passing drills done at United and when ETH was at Ajax. This United team struggled to keep the ball going while the Ajax team made it look effortless.
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Ajax one already on a smaller field and they look so slick and smooth while ours still at beginner level, larger field and can hear ETH shouting “too many mistakes”


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Official new kit out now.

Sancho, bruno, mctom, wanB jadi model.

Ronaldo also is in too.

Indicate stay for this season?
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Jul 8 2022, 11:10 PM)
It’s FDJ and Barca now, not related to MU.

Barca still owe him salary and deferred payment plus his agent fees, MU doesn’t want to get involved in this plus if we dump in let’s said 80M + 20M or 90M straight cash, what’s the diff between now and then? MU trying to get rid of their “water fish” image.

Now we should focus on Martinez, news saying that Ajax will have board meeting today to whether accept 51M + add on or not

Sign Martinez first and conclude Eriksen’s deal too. FDJ is bonus if he managed to settle his salary with Barca and move on

For Eriksen deal, it will be another tough deal because
1. The chances of him pass the fitness are low given of his heart condition, that’s why doctors are involve

2. His contract. The lawyer now going thru the contract MU offer but will take times cuz what if his health doesn’t allow him to finish his contract, what are the compensations or contract termination

Anthony, I rate him lower than Richarlison and the price tag of 60M is over price.
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We are the stupidest non water fish team in the world for focusing on FDJ for the last 60 days knowing this crap entanglement is never going to unravel and Barca will drag us deep into the sewers.
Noobest of the noob.

I too would rather have Richarlison than Antony
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Official new kit out now.

Sancho, bruno, mctom, wanB jadi model.

Ronaldo also is in too.

Indicate stay for this season?
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Photoshoot was done weeks ago.
No bearing on the transfers.
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Chellsea off trying to get fdj. They got money plus cl.

Hope ron stay for another year.

Hope deals for dyballa go through.
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Chellsea off trying to get fdj. They got money plus cl.

Hope ron stay for another year.

Hope deals for dyballa go through.
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Chelsky in London - Manchester got nothing

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Chelsky in London - Manchester got nothing
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Manchester got rain
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London also got rain larh, only plus points are the luxury places they have there compared to Manchester, but its not as if you cant travel there from Manchester during the weekends.
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London also got rain larh, only plus points are the luxury places they have there compared to Manchester, but its not as if you cant travel there from Manchester during the weekends.
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QUOTE(arinpresto @ Jul 9 2022, 09:42 AM)
Chellsea off trying to get fdj. They got money plus cl.

Hope ron stay for another year.

Hope deals for dyballa go through.
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I think the FDJ to Chelsea deal is just Barca trying to force our club for more money.

It didn't make sense. They are trying to get rid of FDJ to reduce the salary cap, pay debt and sign players that they couldn't do at the moment.

The deal with Chelsea is money plus two players. Will the two players accept lower salaries just to join Barca?

And will by just selling FDJ allow Barca to register 5 more players and still abide by the salary cap?

I don't think Lewa salary is going to be lower than what he get in Bayern.

This whole thing smells like BS from Barca to extort more money.
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QUOTE(even_steven @ Jul 9 2022, 04:30 PM)
I think the FDJ to Chelsea deal is just Barca trying to force our club for more money.

It didn't make sense. They are trying to get rid of FDJ to reduce the salary cap, pay debt and sign players that they couldn't do at the moment.

The deal with Chelsea is money plus two players. Will the two players accept lower salaries just to join Barca?

And will by just selling FDJ allow Barca to register 5 more players and still abide by the salary cap?

I don't think Lewa salary is going to be lower than what he get in Bayern.

This whole thing smells like BS from Barca to extort more money.
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Summary on FDJ transfer saga:

Man United and Barcelona have agreed to a €65 million fixed fee plus €20 million in add-ons for Frenkie de Jong moving to Man United this summer.
But despite the agreement between both the clubs, the move is yet to be finalized and here's why :

1. De Jong wants to leave Barca as he's been told by Xavi he is not starting ahead of Busquets and both Pedri & Gavi are preferred in central midfield over the Dutchman.

2. Frenkie de Jong can't come out and say he wants to leave Barca for Man United because he is entitled to a €20 million loyalty bonus. If he forces the transfer, he will lose the loyalty bonus whereas if Barca forces him out, they will owe him a sum of €20 million in loyalty bonus which is the reason Barca President Joan Laporta is coming out in the press again and again saying the club is not forcing De Jong to leave, instead they wanna keep him at the club.

3. In 2019-20 season Barca were hit by economic problems and they had to give a pay cut on deferred terms to all their players. Frenkie de Jong took a deferred pay cut by 70% for three seasons and Barca owe him around €19 million in deferred salary. Frenkie de Jong and his agent want the deferred salary to be paid before he agrees personal terms with Man United. Barca do not have the money to pay him as of now.

4. Frenkie de Jong will not be a Barca player next season, even if Barca want they can not retain his place in the squad due to financial reasons. As per de Jong's contract his salary will increase every season by €50k/week and he is also entitled to an annual bonus of €5 million which means if he was to stay at Barca he will earn €400k/week and also recieve €19 million in deferred salary plus €20 million loyalty bonus plus €5 million annual bonus which equals to a whopping €62.3 million which Barca will have to spend on him next season and the club can not afford it, there is a possibility of Barca declaring bankruptcy if de Jong stays at Barca.

4. Manchester United are clam about the situation, they do not want to rush and overpay for this deal. Erik ten Hag speaks with Frenkie de Jong every day, the player is excited and ready to reunite with ten Hag but can't openly admit it due to the reasons mentioned above. Man United are confident the deal will happen but it can take a few more days.

5. Barca will activate the second economic levers on 12th of July by selling 49% of their Merchandise and Licensing rights to American company Fanatics through which they will receive €400 million to balance their accounts and use 20% of that capital to pay deferred salaries of the players. Frenkie de Jong is waiting for Barca to pay his deferred salary after which he will discuss personal terms with Man United and the deal will be completed.

6. Frenkie de Jong will be a Manchester United player next season, there's an agreement between both Man United and Barca, it's just a matter of time before Barca pay what they owe to De Jong and the deal advances.

NOTE - BARCELONA DO NOT HAVE ANY OTHER OPTION BUT TO SELL DE JONG. HE IS THEIR HIGHEST PAID PLAYER AND THE CLUB WILL HAVE TO SPEND €63 MILLION ON HIM NEXT SEASON IF THEY WISH TO KEEP HIM WHICH IS NOT POSSIBLE AS PER THEIR BALANCE BOOKS.

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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Jul 9 2022, 06:08 PM)
Summary on FDJ transfer saga:

Man United and Barcelona have agreed to a €65 million fixed fee plus €20 million in add-ons for Frenkie de Jong moving to Man United this summer.
But despite the agreement between both the clubs, the move is yet to be finalized and here's why :

1.  De Jong wants to leave Barca as he's been told by Xavi he is not starting ahead of Busquets and both Pedri & Gavi are preferred in central midfield over the Dutchman.

2. Frenkie de Jong can't come out and say he wants to leave Barca for Man United because he is entitled to a €20 million loyalty bonus. If he forces the transfer, he will lose the loyalty bonus whereas if Barca forces him out, they will owe him a sum of €20 million in loyalty bonus which is the reason Barca President Joan Laporta is coming out in the press again and again saying the club is not forcing De Jong to leave, instead they wanna keep him at the club.

3. In 2019-20 season Barca were hit by economic problems and they had to give a pay cut on deferred terms to all their players. Frenkie de Jong took a deferred pay cut by 70% for three seasons and Barca owe him around €19 million in deferred salary.  Frenkie de Jong and his agent want the deferred salary to be paid before he agrees personal terms with Man United. Barca do not have the money to pay him as of now.

4. Frenkie de Jong will not be a Barca player next season, even if Barca want they can not retain his place in the squad due to financial reasons. As per de Jong's contract his salary will increase every season by €50k/week and he is also entitled to an annual bonus of €5 million which means if he was to stay at Barca he will earn €400k/week and also recieve €19 million in deferred salary plus €20 million loyalty bonus plus €5 million annual bonus which equals to a whopping €62.3 million which Barca will have to spend on him next season and the club can not afford it, there is a possibility of Barca declaring bankruptcy if de Jong stays at Barca.

4. Manchester United are clam about the situation, they do not want to rush and overpay for this deal. Erik ten Hag speaks with Frenkie de Jong every day, the player is excited and ready to reunite with ten Hag but can't openly admit it due to the reasons mentioned above. Man United are confident the deal will happen but it can take a few more days.

5. Barca will activate the second economic levers on 12th of July by selling 49% of their Merchandise and Licensing rights to American company Fanatics through which they will receive €400 million to balance their accounts and use 20% of that capital to pay deferred salaries of the players. Frenkie de Jong is waiting for Barca to pay his deferred salary after which he will discuss personal terms with Man United and the deal will be completed.

6. Frenkie de Jong will be a Manchester United player next season, there's an agreement between both Man United and Barca, it's just a matter of time before Barca pay what they owe to De Jong and the deal advances.

NOTE - BARCELONA DO NOT HAVE ANY OTHER OPTION BUT TO SELL DE JONG. HE IS THEIR HIGHEST PAID PLAYER AND THE CLUB WILL HAVE TO SPEND €63 MILLION ON HIM NEXT SEASON IF THEY WISH TO KEEP HIM WHICH IS NOT POSSIBLE AS PER THEIR BALANCE BOOKS.
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ugly.. but the fans will buy it anyway

remember 2013 kit? most of the fans it was super ugly when it launched but then we became champions.

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The retro jacket, anthem jacket and dna jacket mmg nice lah.. but already got 2 jackets 🤣 one Nike and one Adidas apa lagi mau 😬
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QUOTE(damnself @ Jul 9 2022, 09:51 PM)
The retro jacket, anthem jacket and dna jacket mmg nice lah.. but already got 2 jackets 🤣 one Nike and one Adidas apa lagi mau 😬
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i kinda like the new jersey. but the colar can be better
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Relax mancs
It is not 11:59pm 31.08.2022 yet
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Aug 7 is our opening game against Brighton.
Followed by Aug 14 against Brentford.

Then on Aug 23rd it is Liverpool at Old Trafford.

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jul 10 2022, 01:26 PM)
Aug 7 is our opening game against Brighton.
Followed by Aug 14 against Brentford.

Then on Aug 23rd it is Liverpool at Old Trafford.
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It is ok la
At this rate, Arnold likely gonna repeat Woodward's (1st transfer window) last minute signing of Fellaini due to disasterous transfer window tongue.gif

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I don't quite understand why players want to stay/join Barca when they are struggling to even pay the salary to the point where players had to defer it for years to come.

I suspected FdJ wanted to stay only to get back his deferred salary but Raphina, Lewan, etc still want to join a club that doesn't pay players salary.
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Buy more to support glazers 😅🤭🤭
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Considering I haven’t missed all three jerseys a season from 1990-2014 and already stop collecting jersey the past 8 years, and still Glazers still the owner, you know I know they will still be the owner lah unless somebody buy the club from them 🤣

Stop buying will not change the owner 😙

I’m still waiting oil money to buy so can fight with city. Manchester Arab United vs Manchester Arab City 👀
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QUOTE(and85rew @ Jul 10 2022, 01:45 PM)
It is ok la
At this rate, Arnold likely gonna repeat Woodward's (1st transfer window) last minute signing of Fellaini due to disasterous transfer window tongue.gif
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Ok so who is “our fellaini” this season? 👀
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QUOTE(Winter-3 @ Jul 10 2022, 03:43 PM)
I don't quite understand why players want to stay/join Barca when they are struggling to even pay the salary to the point where players had to defer it for years to come. 

I suspected FdJ wanted to stay only to get back his deferred salary but Raphina, Lewan, etc still want to join a club that doesn't pay players salary.
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Politician likely kencing the players la. “We can get this team back to the place that we belong”
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QUOTE(damnself @ Jul 10 2022, 03:53 PM)
Considering I haven’t missed all three jerseys a season from 1990-2014 and already stop collecting jersey the past 8 years, and still Glazers still the owner, you know I know they will still be the owner lah unless somebody buy the club from them 🤣

Stop buying will not change the owner 😙

I’m still waiting oil money to buy so can fight with city. Manchester Arab United vs Manchester Arab City 👀
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wait for end of seasons clearance.

https://www.adidas.com.my/en/manchester-uni...Size=FM4292_560

gonna buy this Rm70 after discount rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(Winter-3 @ Jul 10 2022, 03:43 PM)
I don't quite understand why players want to stay/join Barca when they are struggling to even pay the salary to the point where players had to defer it for years to come. 

I suspected FdJ wanted to stay only to get back his deferred salary but Raphina, Lewan, etc still want to join a club that doesn't pay players salary.
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The Dutch influence is damn strong in Barca. Cruyff, Lvg, Kluivert. In a team that has always shone, not like MUFC sometimes playing in the mud huffing long balls. Not all people like us grew up with only the epl on telly. Even today, La Liga has always been more marketable. So can’t blame them for wanting to follow in the footsteps of their heroes.


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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Jul 10 2022, 04:33 PM)
wait for end of seasons clearance.

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QUOTE(Winter-3 @ Jul 10 2022, 03:43 PM)
I don't quite understand why players want to stay/join Barca when they are struggling to even pay the salary to the point where players had to defer it for years to come. 

I suspected FdJ wanted to stay only to get back his deferred salary but Raphina, Lewan, etc still want to join a club that doesn't pay players salary.
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Legacy is strong.
Like us here keep supporting United despite the club being badly run for ages.
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Supporting the club, yes I can understand. But these players are essentially employees. I can't imagine myself wanting to continue working for my employer who has continually lowering/not paying my wages monthly no matter how legendary the employer is. Most likely, I will bring this to the labour office attention. But then again, these are football players, maybe their contracts and working culture are different from me.
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QUOTE(Winter-3 @ Jul 10 2022, 07:20 PM)
Supporting the club, yes I can understand. But these players are essentially employees.  I can't imagine myself wanting to continue working for my employer who has continually lowering/not paying my wages monthly no matter how legendary the employer is.  Most likely, I will bring this to the labour office attention.  But then again, these are football players, maybe their contracts and working culture are different from me.
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These footballers are milionaires. They aren't struggling to put food on the table so their motivation after earning that money may be the environment they are in.
Their wages are not being continually lowered. If anything, like FDJ, the wages are contractually obligated to increase year on year.
The non payment of the wages is based on a contractual agreement to defer the payments to a later date. This is debt on the club's books. Money will be paid.

Barcelona are still a force of the football club. Economically, the only area they are struggling with are keeping the wages to within La Liga new restrictions.
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jul 10 2022, 09:02 PM)
These footballers are milionaires. They aren't struggling to put food on the table so their motivation after earning that money may be the environment they are in.
Their wages are not being continually lowered. If anything, like FDJ, the wages are contractually obligated to increase year on year.
The non payment of the wages is based on a contractual agreement to defer the payments to a later date. This is debt on the club's books. Money will be paid.

Barcelona are still a force of the football club. Economically, the only area they are struggling with are keeping the wages to within La Liga new restrictions.
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Well, maybe I'm thinking like a mercenary, I want my salary to be paid on time lol
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Achieved a lot of success.. what kind of success? lol..
Looks like another puppet..

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Achieved a lot of success.. what kind of success? lol..
Looks like another puppet..

Captain will not get dropped will he?.. doh.gif
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Jul 11 2022, 05:55 PM)

Achieved a lot of success.. what kind of success? lol..
Looks like another puppet..

Captain will not get dropped will he?.. doh.gif
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Can write off season 2022/23 already

ETH out soon

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See you in season 2023/24 😅😅
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Jul 11 2022, 05:55 PM)

Achieved a lot of success.. what kind of success? lol..
Looks like another puppet..

Captain will not get dropped will he?.. doh.gif
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King maguire....
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Achieved a lot of success.. what kind of success? lol..
Looks like another puppet..

Captain will not get dropped will he?.. doh.gif
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No wonder, Ronaldo want to leave immediately doh.gif doh.gif shakehead.gif shakehead.gif ranting.gif ranting.gif vmad.gif vmad.gif
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Got GNev protection and approval too..
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Got GNev protection and approval too..
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Jul 11 2022, 05:55 PM)

Achieved a lot of success.. what kind of success? lol..
Looks like another puppet..

Captain will not get dropped will he?.. doh.gif
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- World's most expensive defender.
- Relegated clubs that he represents four time
- Relegated two clubs in a single season (2014: Hull, Wigan)


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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Jul 11 2022, 07:33 PM)

Got GNev protection and approval too..
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to be fair ETH is still new and Ronaldo is not around so it is natural selection/default to pick Maguire.

By then I hope ETH could see the incompetence of Maguire to lead. For me the best option is De Gea
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holy shit... just wtf? OK.. i'll give captain 3 games and see what next.
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QUOTE(Azury36 @ Jul 11 2022, 08:29 PM)
to be fair ETH is still new and Ronaldo is not around so it is natural selection/default to pick Maguire.

By then I hope ETH could see the incompetence of Maguire to lead. For me the best option is De Gea
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If maguire can be captain without any achievement... gardner also can be captain
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QUOTE(Azury36 @ Jul 11 2022, 08:29 PM)
to be fair ETH is still new and Ronaldo is not around so it is natural selection/default to pick Maguire.

By then I hope ETH could see the incompetence of Maguire to lead. For me the best option is De Gea
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agree .. there's no potential leader that is head and shoulder above the rest ..

the only other names I've seen thrown around is Bruno and DDG .. meh

and don't let me start on the guy who wanna leave the team lol

I will reserve my judgment on this decision at least until after the season starts for a while



p/s: ETH is clearly trying to keep those sensitive stuffs behind closed door and not lay it bare in front of media. So saying good things about the players is absolutely understandable (despite Maguire fooking costs us so many points last season). Last thing ETH want will be another controversy behind a very messy transfer windows thus far.

Remember how many ppl condemn Mourinho and RR for throwing players under the bus? Managers can really do ntg right, unless they "listen" to every fans dry.gif

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Eth out? Lol. I remember many ppl say if maguire captain next season, the manager sux.

Understand why ronaldo want leave
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Gone. With Maguire in the lead we have nothing to fear (except) the worst.
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United higher ups are in Barcelona rn apparently
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QUOTE(simmarjit @ Jul 11 2022, 11:04 PM)
United higher ups are in Barcelona rn apparently
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QUOTE(simmarjit @ Jul 11 2022, 11:04 PM)
United higher ups are in Barcelona rn apparently
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Yes both CEO Richard Arnold and DoF John Murtough were there, should be finalising FDJ’s deal since Barca re-sign Dembele and Raphinha is joining them soon.
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I. CANT. STAND. MAGUIRE

SERIOUSLY?

And absolute clown on the pitch…
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QUOTE(damnself @ Jul 12 2022, 12:02 AM)
I. CANT. STAND. MAGUIRE

SERIOUSLY?

And absolute clown on the pitch…
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ETH rate him as a king 😂

————-

MU and Barca have settled at €85M, now both parties trying to convince FDJ to leave Barca and join MU

Eriksen deal as I predict, won’t be so easily go thru due to his heart failure last time, I’m guessing he won’t pass his medical and required green light from doctor before signing with us

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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Jul 12 2022, 12:25 AM)
ETH rate him as a king 😂

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MU and Barca have settled at €85M, now both parties trying to convince FDJ to leave Barca and join MU

Eriksen deal as I predict, won’t be so easily go thru due to his heart failure last time, I’m guessing he won’t pass his medical and required green light from doctor before signing with us
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85m straight payment? or 65 + 20? like that all the wait for 2 months gone... now is fdj problem..
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Got live tonight, tv9. It's better than nothing.

I don't mind the result. As long we play positively, attacking football.
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Another day another no new signing... and Maguire continue to be captain... thank god hallelujah... let us think who is the next manager coming in then... poch? zidane? uncle roti? maguire is the king maker, he can decide a manager get to keep his job or not and still continue being captain haha
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Jul 12 2022, 09:15 AM)
85m straight payment? or 65 + 20? like that all the wait for 2 months gone... now is fdj problem..
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No details on the fees. Just wait for FDJ agreed and will have more news on the transfer.

My prediction is 75 + 10 like what reported last time. Barca want straight cash to pay off FDJ outstanding fees


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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Jul 12 2022, 11:26 AM)
No details on the fees. Just wait for FDJ agreed and will have more news on the transfer.

My prediction is 75 + 10 like what reported last time. Barca want straight cash to pay off FDJ outstanding fees
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hopefully just come fast so other targets, if any can come.

city selling ake back to cfc and already targetting de ligt for 75m.. crazy..
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Jul 12 2022, 10:45 AM)
Another day another no new signing... and Maguire continue to be captain... thank god hallelujah... let us think who is the next manager coming in then... poch? zidane? uncle roti? maguire is the king maker, he can decide a manager get to keep his job or not and still continue being captain haha
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king maquire > mbappe
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king maquire > mbappe
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at least his wages cheaper than mbappe tongue.gif tongue.gif dunno his contract signed until when dy, most probably we gonna let go free like pogba
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Got live tonight, tv9. It's better than nothing.

I don't mind the result. As long we play positively, attacking football.
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Don't know if astro can view tv9 or not.
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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Jul 12 2022, 11:59 AM)
Don't know if astro can view tv9 or not.
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long live king maguire
our next savior, king of the brits



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Wow got live? That's nice. Though there is nothing much too see. Same old maguire
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If our midfielders can perform, it will be a lot more fun to watch this season. Fridge or not is not a big deal.
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Jul 12 2022, 11:26 AM)
No details on the fees. Just wait for FDJ agreed and will have more news on the transfer.

My prediction is 75 + 10 like what reported last time. Barca want straight cash to pay off FDJ outstanding fees
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Rather take jesus. Young and proven.

Oh lupa we need midfield. Apa susah lord freed kan ado. Takpun joness. Multipurpose role.

Yahooo captain meguireee.
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Rasa2 kene titik juga.

3-1 pool menang.
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Don't know if astro can view tv9 or not.
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🚨 Paulo Dybala has lowered his wage demands and has asked for 'only' €6M/year.

On the other hand. Funny. Really failure to be free agent. They need mino to jack his price up
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Wonder what Klopp gonna do.. he gonna take this match seriously like ETH?

Or gonna do Klopp some cunning stuff.. like dont give United a hard time, let the scoreline be close, give United good time..
Then unleash the real thing when season start.. evil smart like Pep
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As long we show some improvement than last season, don't care if we lose. It's just pre-season match.
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just want to see them play as a team, doesn't matter if they lose
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better lose... so the boards know what to do if even pre-season also kalah... lol
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Jul 12 2022, 02:26 PM)
better lose... so the boards know what to do if even pre-season also kalah... lol
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last season preseason i rmb also keep lose dy.. nth happen pun.  tongue.gif
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Barca told FDJ to take a paycut.... or take a hike. Looks like he's coming soon.

Now for Martinez and maybe Dybala......
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Tbh, until this point I still don't understand why people rate Fred.
For me I would rather playing a weak pressing midfield who can pass properly, rather than a pressing midfielder who dunno how to pass.

As long as Fred and McTom is regular starter, don't even think about top 4.

Don't tell me Fred is Brazil lineup such thing.
It is just same as Maguire is England lineup.

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Tbh, until this point I still don't understand why people rate Fred.
For me I would rather playing a weak pressing midfield who can pass properly, rather than a pressing midfielder who dunno how to pass.

As long as Fred and McTom is regular starter, don't even think about top 4.

Don't tell me Fred is Brazil lineup such thing.
It is just same as Maguire is England lineup.
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Should just teach Black Bart & McTok to try pass to opponent then they may get the right teammate
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Jul 12 2022, 02:05 PM)
🚨 Paulo Dybala has lowered his wage demands and has asked for 'only' €6M/year.

On the other hand. Funny. Really failure to be free agent. They need mino to jack his price up
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If €6M/year, ok la. Even Fred's salary is higher than that. I approve laugh.gif
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QUOTE(KennRicky @ Jul 12 2022, 06:03 PM)


Tbh, until this point I still don't understand why people rate Fred.
For me I would rather playing a weak pressing midfield who can pass properly, rather than a pressing midfielder who dunno how to pass.

As long as Fred and McTom is regular starter, don't even think about top 4.

Don't tell me Fred is Brazil lineup such thing.
It is just same as Maguire is England lineup.
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everyone deserve a new life bro under the new manager, if he is reli not suitable for ETH's formation, im sure very fast u will see him playing with our reserves soon... lol... frankly speaking, currently none of our midfielder can actually pass well... lol... maybe gardner passing consider above average?
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If €6M/year, ok la. Even Fred's salary is higher than that. I approve  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Jul 12 2022, 05:32 PM)
Barca told FDJ to take a paycut.... or take a hike. Looks like he's coming soon.

Now for Martinez and maybe Dybala......
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the problem is when..... FDJ can drag until 31 Aug baru mari, by that time we sudah kena sapu 6-0 by liverpool dy... and he need time to get used to life in Manchester... we october baru can see the effect of his signing... lol
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So actually fdj interested mari or not? Its strange to force a move when player not interested. Macam forced working
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Jul 12 2022, 06:28 PM)
everyone deserve a new life bro under the new manager, if he is reli not suitable for ETH's formation, im sure very fast u will see him playing with our reserves soon... lol... frankly speaking, currently none of our midfielder can actually pass well... lol... maybe gardner passing consider above average?
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Fred passing is already on another level.
He is not only the worst in the team, but may be worst in premier league.
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Lmao … mcfred starts but no captain maguire
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QUOTE(orga_laut @ Jul 12 2022, 07:53 PM)
LOL

HAIL MCFRED M***F*KER

MCFRED THE FUTURE OF TEN HAG ERA LETS GO!!!!

F**K
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Mana kapitan
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Ten Hag will finally see the power of McFred.
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Fred, McT and Bruno have about the same passing abilities..
Bruno might slightly higher.. debatable though..

That video of Fred as the last line giving the ball away cheaply..
Everyone knows he is a liability as a DM playing deep, in front of CB's..

Why insisting on him doing that role yet again?
The new manager didnt do his homework?
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Jul 12 2022, 07:04 PM)
So actually fdj interested mari or not? Its strange to force a move when player not interested. Macam forced working
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simple answer is : no
the technical answer is: possible because of ten hag, not utd



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ETH wanna show the world how he can turn last season's disasters into worldclass players
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Wow, Klopp is really a master.
Look at their lineup.

He wanna let Ten Hag thought McFred is good enough.
At the same time can give chance to youngster.

If they can control the game, then it will destroy us mentally.
No matter from which perspective, Klopp really Master level.
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Any link for tonight game?
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QUOTE(natx001 @ Jul 12 2022, 08:58 PM)
Ops can see now

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Pool lineup like this also can control the game.
We are really 10 years behind.
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U see, told u, Fred is the worst passer in PL.
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pass master fred lol
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De Gea: Haiz ... this bunch of sampah, change manager also same.
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I think in term of passing, better than last year.
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QUOTE(Matchy @ Jul 12 2022, 09:14 PM)
I think in term of passing, better than last year.
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No gegenpressing so it looks better on the eyes
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Almost bocor from over commit in pressing
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in terms of attacking..got pattern like training video
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Nice chip Fred
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Lord Fred
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The position that McTom currently occupied is DLP, the position that going to be FDJ
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Fred score lol.. maybe should keep complaining about him to get his reaction
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Liv 2nd string defensive line is way too lower level than their 1st eleven..
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QUOTE(lowyatfag @ Jul 12 2022, 09:21 PM)
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tv9 got live
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do Liverpool purposely play poor lol?
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https://www.xtra.com.my/live-tv/

Official TV9 stream
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It was a wonderful first half. Keep it up
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United needs 2 CM,1 CB, and 1 RB. Dalot can't catch up a fast player but is good at passing.

While McFred could see they just do the same mistake slow decisions, clumsy passing, and bad positioning

Overall our attacking looks organise

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FU*KING MCFRED IF WE WIN THIS THEN TEN HAG WILL USE MCFRED FOREVER

FU*KING HELL

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Liv stronger lineup probably gonna start 2nd half with United young players playing against them..
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lol … good team performance also wanna bash

Can check out Malacia now

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Too much youngsters on the pitch, from both team.
Became Low quality match.
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Hah ... Pool punya lineup coming in.
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Amad is so sloppy man ....
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Amad and Elanga having a bad game..
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30M Amad can ready to write off already

Pellestri also can write off


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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Jul 12 2022, 10:31 PM)
30M Amad can ready to write off already

Pellestri also can write off
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Goal
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30M Amad can ready to write off already

Pellestri also can write off
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Ya, that is why I said these 2 is more and more like Bebe and Obertan.
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Did an unknown youngster just scored against Van Dijk?
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Elanga passing terrible..

Bailly reading of opponent's attack real good.. no rash acrobatic challenge so far..
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So far the best performer is Bailly.
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QUOTE(KennRicky @ Jul 12 2022, 10:39 PM)
So far the best performer is Bailly.
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There's still hope for him.. Bailly/Varane partnership please
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No offense, but looking at Pellistri, Amad and Elanga is like watching Liga Malaysia ...
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Salam 4-0
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Really, people said give chance to Pellistri and Amad.
Forget about it, it is totally wrong buy like Obertan and Bebe.
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QUOTE(KennRicky @ Jul 12 2022, 10:39 PM)
So far the best performer is Bailly.
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Only if he doesn’t injure so often…
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QUOTE(KennRicky @ Jul 12 2022, 10:42 PM)
No offense, but looking at Pellistri, Amad and Elanga is like watching Liga Malaysia ...
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chill, there are youngster
even off form martial better if u compare with youngster
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Happy to see United win the match but many things to rectify. Savage seem good, Elanga can do better, VDB seem rusty. Bailly should get 1st eleven not Maguire

If we get FDJ,Martinez and Anthony I think United could really challenge top 4
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Loved the result and performance. Still long way to go but we look like a team.
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Bailly was a beast, if ETH don’t rate him, I hope we get decent money for him.
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QUOTE(john_white @ Jul 12 2022, 10:55 PM)
chill, there are youngster
even off form martial better if u compare with youngster
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But I really thought the 19M ~ 37M GBP we spent on Amad is bcuz he is a tier 1 youngster.
But .... But ... The fact is he can't even playing in Rangers.
And we can see why.

Pellestri still ok la, 10M Euro.
Elanga, academy.

Amad .... Amad .... Haiz ....
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Yet they gave MOM to Martial
It's Bailly la
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QUOTE(KennRicky @ Jul 12 2022, 11:08 PM)
But I really thought the 19M ~ 37M GBP we spent on Amad is bcuz he is a tier 1 youngster.
But .... But ... The fact is he can't even playing in Rangers.
And we can see why.

Pellestri still ok la, 10M Euro.
Elanga, academy.

Amad .... Amad .... Haiz ....
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Stop with negativity lah

First 10 minutes oso u sudah call man utd players are bunch of sampah

Now sudah 4-0 oso wanna hentam youngsters.. Really facepalm
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Not bad for first game. It really shows that some manager can improve the team and some cannot. I'm going to give clean slate to everyone again under ETH, and see if he can improve the players. Even the slab head Maguire.
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Even Iqbal had a decent showing
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Waw unexpected result.

Tania.

Motm hail fred playmakeer.
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QUOTE(Seoliem @ Jul 12 2022, 11:15 PM)
Stop with negativity lah

First 10 minutes oso u sudah call man utd players are bunch of sampah

Now sudah 4-0 oso wanna hentam youngsters.. Really facepalm
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Didn't I praise Bailly directly, and indirectly praised De Gea?
U have your own positivity attitude, I have my realistic attitude.
Don't like me. Block me.
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Jul 12 2022, 10:31 PM)
30M Amad can ready to write off already

Pellestri also can write off
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Goal. Lol.

Sweet victory. Happy to see nunez firing blank.

First half, mostly sloppy def backpass as usual. I thought backpass sudah ban. Maguire no start, happy liao. Surprised vdb also no start. He didn't do anything though when play. Didn't see anything from malacia also

We have many 1-1 chance if players pick the right pass. Hope this will improve

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QUOTE(even_steven @ Jul 12 2022, 11:17 PM)
Not bad for first game. It really shows that some manager can improve the team and some cannot. I'm going to give clean slate to everyone again under ETH, and see if he can improve the players. Even the slab head Maguire.
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